---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/19/11: 52 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:55 AM - One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo (Oscar Zuniga) 2. 06:08 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (lowell23@msn.com) 3. 07:46 AM - Corvair props (skellytown flyer) 4. 07:52 AM - Re: Corvair props (Ryan Mueller) 5. 08:02 AM - Re: Corvair props (skellytown flyer) 6. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Kip and Beth Gardner) 7. 08:30 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (heavyliftpilot) 8. 08:42 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (heavyliftpilot) 9. 08:43 AM - Re: Fuselage Construction (K5YAC) 10. 08:43 AM - Re: Corvair props (hvandervoo@aol.com) 11. 08:47 AM - off-topic- need help (helspersew@aol.com) 12. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage Construction (james theissen) 13. 09:01 AM - Re: off-topic- need help (hvandervoo@aol.com) 14. 09:06 AM - Re: off-topic- need help (Wayne Bressler) 15. 09:42 AM - Re: off-topic- need help (American Safety Consultants) 16. 10:49 AM - Re: Corvair props (shad bell) 17. 11:16 AM - Re: off-topic- need help (helspersew@aol.com) 18. 12:09 PM - Re: off-topic- need help (Jack Phillips) 19. 12:43 PM - Re: Corvair props (skellytown flyer) 20. 01:13 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Construction (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com) 21. 01:53 PM - 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (helspersew@aol.com) 22. 02:11 PM - Red Green misquoted (TOM STINEMETZE) 23. 02:12 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 24. 02:17 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (John Hofmann) 25. 02:26 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Ryan Mueller) 26. 02:35 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (K5YAC) 27. 02:53 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (amsafetyc@aol.com) 28. 03:00 PM - Re: Fuselage Construction (Billy McCaskill) 29. 03:09 PM - Re: Corvair props (Billy McCaskill) 30. 03:30 PM - Re: Corvair props (skellytown flyer) 31. 05:35 PM - model a heads (bender) 32. 05:54 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (helspersew@aol.com) 33. 05:54 PM - Taxes on material (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com) 34. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Construction (james theissen) 35. 05:54 PM - Re: model a heads (Doug Dever) 36. 05:56 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Construction (james theissen) 37. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com) 38. 05:57 PM - Re: One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo (Jack) 39. 06:01 PM - correction (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 40. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Rick Holland) 41. 06:01 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Charles Campbell) 42. 06:13 PM - Re: Corvair props (Gboothe5) 43. 06:16 PM - Re: Taxes on material (Doug Dever) 44. 06:17 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Gboothe5) 45. 06:20 PM - information from Chet Peek (Stan Peek) 46. 06:28 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Gboothe5) 47. 06:32 PM - Re: Corvair props (skellytown flyer) 48. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Ryan Mueller) 49. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Ryan Mueller) 50. 07:03 PM - Re: model a heads (Brett Phillips) 51. 08:37 PM - Re: Corvair props (jarheadpilot82) 52. 09:30 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (Chris) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:44 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo I just noticed in the latest BPA Newsletter that Bill Rewey's Piet, NX17WR, is for sale. Anybody know the story behind this? Is he hanging up his goggles or building another Piet? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" San Antonio, TX website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:50 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction From: "lowell23@msn.com" Thank you very much, everybody! That all makes perfect sense. Now I really can't wait for to see the UPS truck in my driveway! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337466#337466 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:05 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props From: "skellytown flyer" Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm wondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a 66X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to really need either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in flight.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in level flight.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise indicating 70 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4 flights into it I have a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so far. I like Fords but guess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has a better spare prop you want to sell or swap for something I might have to spare let me know.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337484#337484 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props From: Ryan Mueller 3350 sounds waaaay high..... do not archive On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:43 AM, skellytown flyer wrote: > skellflyer1@yahoo.com> > > Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm > wondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a > 66X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to really > need either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in > flight.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in > level flight.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise > indicating 70 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4 > flights into it I have a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so > far. I like Fords but guess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has > a better spare prop you want to sell or swap for something I might have to > spare let me know.Raymond > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337484#337484 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:43 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props From: "skellytown flyer" That's what I thought. I got the project from D.J. with it on the engine but I'm afraid I need to get something with more bite soon. I don't know that I'll damage the engine but it sure reduces the performance I'm thinking.I may check on the corvair list and see if anyone has a good one to get rid of. I have a new set of 5" wheels and brakes that I removed from it that would sure be good trading material as well as a few other goodies. wish there was a swap list on the site. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337493#337493 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:21 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props I think WW says 3100 is about top desired rpm for his corvair conversion. don't remember recommended prop dimensions without checking. Kip Gardner On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:00 AM, skellytown flyer wrote: > > > > That's what I thought. I got the project from D.J. with it on the > engine but I'm afraid I need to get something with more bite soon. I > don't know that I'll damage the engine but it sure reduces the > performance I'm thinking.I may check on the corvair list and see if > anyone has a good one to get rid of. I have a new set of 5" wheels > and brakes that I removed from it that would sure be good trading > material as well as a few other goodies. wish there was a swap list > on the site. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337493#337493 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:28 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction From: "heavyliftpilot" This might be off topic, but does the fuselage kit from ACS have full length ailerons, or are they short to accomodate shipping, and need to be spliced together? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337498#337498 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:18 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction From: "heavyliftpilot" Sorry, i meant, full length longerons, not ailerons. james Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337499#337499 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:15 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction From: "K5YAC" heavyliftpilot wrote: > This might be off topic, but does the fuselage kit from ACS have full length ailerons, or are they short to accomodate shipping, and need to be spliced together? I am going to assume that you meant to say "longerons", not "ailerons" when discussing the fuselage package from Aircraft Spruce. The longerons are indeed one piece, and are longer than required for the standard or long fuselage. Nothing in the entire wood package requires splicing in order to make a full length dimension. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337500#337500 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props From: hvandervoo@aol.com Raymond, I am using a 63 x 36 Tennessee. 2900 RPM static at near sea level About 3100 at WOT in the air. Most of time 2300 RPM cruising at 65 Mph. I am happy with my prop, never tested another so improvement might be possi ble. Climbing performance is a good 800 fpm with one onboard Hans NX15KV Waller, TX -----Original Message----- From: skellytown flyer Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 9:46 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props .com> Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm ondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a 6X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to really eed either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in light.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in l evel light.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise indicat ing 0 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4 flights into i t I ave a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so far. I like Fords but uess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has a better spare prop y ou ant to sell or swap for something I might have to spare let me know.Raymond ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337484#337484 -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:13 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help From: helspersew@aol.com Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private airs trip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previou s owner) to "Lowensloe". on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off- list. Thanks in advance. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction From: james theissen Thanks Mark, and yes, i meant lonerons! i went back and made the correction. I live about 4 hours from ACS, and will be up to Atlanta a few times in the next year...so, i think it would be worth my time to just pick it up instead of paying for shipping. james On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:41 AM, K5YAC wrote: > > > heavyliftpilot wrote: >> This might be off topic, but does the fuselage kit from ACS have full length ailerons, or are they short to accomodate shipping, and need to be spliced together? > > > I am going to assume that you meant to say "longerons", not "ailerons" when discussing the fuselage package from Aircraft Spruce. The longerons are indeed one piece, and are longer than required for the standard or long fuselage. Nothing in the entire wood package requires splicing in order to make a full length dimension. > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337500#337500 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help From: hvandervoo@aol.com You need to refile form 5010 with the FAA http://www.faa.gov/airports/airport_safety/airportdata_5010/ Then just wait for it to appear on the new sectional Hans NX15KV -----Original Message----- From: helspersew Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 10:47 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private airs trip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previou s owner) to "Lowensloe". on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off- list. Thanks in advance. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help From: Wayne Bressler There is an FAA Charting office. I don't have the number, though. I'm not s ure they're the starting point, but it's worth a shot. Wayne Bressler Taildraggers, Inc. www.taildraggersinc.com On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:44 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private air strip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previou s owner) to "Lowensloe". > on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off -list. Thanks in advance. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:02 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help From: American Safety Consultants Dan When you get it changed will there be a loenslow fly in weekend to properly celeberate the new official name and rededication On Apr 19, 2011 11:49 AM, wrote: > > > Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private airstrip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previous owner) to "Lowensloe". > on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off-list. Thanks in advance. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:37 AM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props We have a 66-30 hegy prop, and static is about 2750-2800.- She will cruis e along at about 75-80 on 5 gph.- As far as cruise rpm don't know exactly , the tach is not very accurate, it is a westach, with the tach generator. - I don't know if it can be adjusted or not, but checking it against a di gital timing light (with tach) it shows the tach is reading 400 rpm higher than actual at full throtle, and about correct at idle.- - Shad --- On Tue, 4/19/11, hvandervoo@aol.com wrote: From: hvandervoo@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props Raymond, - I am using a 63 x 36 Tennessee. - 2900 RPM static at near sea level - About 3100 at WOT in the air. - Most of time 2300 RPM cruising at 65 Mph. - I am happy with my prop, never tested another so improvement might be possi ble. - Climbing performance is a good 800 fpm with one onboard - Hans - NX15KV Waller, TX -----Original Message----- From: skellytown flyer Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 9:46 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props .com> Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm wondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a 66X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to reall y need either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in flight.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in level flight.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise indica ting 70 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4 flights into it I have a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so far. I like Fords but guess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has a better spare prop you want to sell or swap for something I might have to spare let me know.Raymon d Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337484#337484 " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:16:36 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help From: helspersew@aol.com Yes John, As soon as I get my act together I will plan an event at Lowensloe Airfield (G.Owen Lowensloe, prop.). Thanks to Wayne and Hans for the leads. This in fo will get me headed in the right direction. Leave it to the guys on this list for a wealth of knowledge, and fast too!! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: American Safety Consultants Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 11:42 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help Dan When you get it changed will there be a loenslow fly in weekend to properly celeberate the new official name and rededication On Apr 19, 2011 11:49 AM, wrote: > > > Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private ai rstrip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previ ous owner) to "Lowensloe". > on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me of f-list. Thanks in advance. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:09:15 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help Dan, give me plenty of advanced warning and I might make the journey over the mountains to visit, and to see my Mom. Of course, you need to get your own Pietenpol there first. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help Yes John, As soon as I get my act together I will plan an event at Lowensloe Airfield (G.Owen Lowensloe, prop.). Thanks to Wayne and Hans for the leads. This info will get me headed in the right direction. Leave it to the guys on this list for a wealth of knowledge, and fast too!! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: American Safety Consultants Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 11:42 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off-topic- need help Dan When you get it changed will there be a loenslow fly in weekend to properly celeberate the new official name and rededication On Apr 19, 2011 11:49 AM, wrote: > > > Does anyone know how someone goes about changing the name of a private airstrip on a sectional chart? I want to change mine from "Oliver" (the previous owner) to "Lowensloe". > on the St. Louis sectional chart. If anyone can help please contact me off-list. Thanks in advance. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:43:29 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props From: "skellytown flyer" Thanks guys- I guess mine is just a little more climb pitch. I just got off the phone with the guy at Tennessee prop and he said most he has sold for corvairs on Piet types have been 66X30's. I guess unless I find somebody out there in the cyberworld with a good used one to swap or I find someone willing to give me at least a little more than half what a new set of Grove 5" wheels and brakes like I have here that I took off it cost. I'll carefully continue testing some more and monitor the speed close.I hope to borrow an optical tach at some point and check this thing but I'm looking at readings from a Grand Rapids EIS unit set up for the Corvair engine so I suspect it to be pretty accurate. I would think it counts the pulses digitally and is awful accurate. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337525#337525 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:13:09 PM PST US From: SENTUCHOWS@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction Heavyliftpilot, Don't forget if you pick up your kit they will charge you taxes. Dave ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN From: helspersew@aol.com My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ... ..."We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to h ave it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for -bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend install ing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:39 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Red Green misquoted I can't believe that after all that I misquoted Red Green. The correct pledge is: "I'm a man, but I can change... if I have too. I guess." Stinemetze, do not archive ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:12:56 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN Dan , Great Logo. now does she know what happens when the Christening is denied? You may be descended upon by the horeds of Piet, builders, flyers and wanna bees at a date and time not of your choosing or control, it will just happen. Then what? Better to be prepared for the inevitable than surprised by the unplanned. Its always been a strategy of mine to control all those things in my control and hope the ones not in my control do not some how raise their heads to smote me at the least covenant time. I sure hope that doesn't happen at Loensloe field this year....... A word to the wise! In a message dated 4/19/2011 4:53:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, helspersew@aol.com writes: My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:16 PM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following the sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that "Wimmin's be thinkin' too much." Let me know how that works out for you. do not archive. -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > > My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > do not archive > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:26:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN From: Ryan Mueller And restrain thy pimp hand.... do not archive On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:14 PM, John Hofmann wrote: > I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following the > sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that "Wimmin's be > thinkin' too much." > > Let me know how that works out for you. > > do not archive. > > -john- > > John Hofmann > Vice-President, Information Technology > The Rees Group, Inc. > 2424 American Lane > Madison, WI 53704 > Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 > Fax: 608.443.2474 > Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com > > On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > > > My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year > ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to > have it all right away......well, maybe its the > Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did > go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but > off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't > have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is > no appreciation. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > do not archive > > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:16 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN From: "K5YAC" jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc. wrote: > "Wimmin's be thinkin' too much." > > -john- Oh yeah, that's going to work out real well. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337539#337539 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:53:20 PM PST US From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN Dan its good advice. I would follow it if I were you John Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: John Hofmann Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 21:17:32 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following the sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that "Wimmin's be thinkin' too much." Let me know how that works out for you. do not archive. -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > > My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > do not archive > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:00:48 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction From: "Billy McCaskill" Dave, I think that Heavyliftpilot lives in the same state as Aircraft Spruce where he intends to pick up his wood from. He'd be paying taxes on it whether he ordered it by phone, online, or picking it up in person. He can at least save the shipping charges if he picks it up personally, plus he can inspect the wood as he's loading it to make sure that it meets his specifications. I'd pick mine up too if I were in his position. -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337545#337545 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:20 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props From: "Billy McCaskill" I was just about to mention that you should verify the accuracy of your tachometer, but it looks like you have already thought of that. Sounds like a good plan, it's always good to verify information like that so that you don't damage your engine, or worse... Have you considered carving your own prop? Several people on this list have done it, this way you can get the exact prop that you want at substantial savings. Dan Helsper offers a really well put together CD on prop carving that is well worth the price if you are interested in trying this out for yourself. -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337547#337547 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props From: "skellytown flyer" I have considered it and that might be a good winter project! I need to investigate it further. I know a fellow not too far from here that talked about doing it and if he decides to try and builds a duplicator I have a prop he can use for a pattern with one blade damaged that is about right for him and I'd think I might be able to clamp my prop down with it rolled just a little to increase the pitch and make one? lots of options. some a lot more expensive than others.it would be nice if I could find someone that could rough cut a blank for me to a good profile and I could spend time sanding and finishing it. but it sounds like it sure needs to be precise to stay balanced. do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337550#337550 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: model a heads From: "bender" Hey A Guys.. i know quite a few run a single ignition on the ford.... just wondering if anyone has a thought on heads.. i was kinda waiting on a dual plug head from snyders.. they are working on the new casting.. and i'm on the list but i wonder if i "need" dual ignition i have a wico model c mag with an adjustable impulse and its hot ! but i thought about a electronic "B" distributor too ... i need an electrical system anyway been thinking about a winfield head... or thomas .. kinda want to stick with aluminum for weight jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337553#337553 ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN From: helspersew@aol.com She says to tell all ya'z that she was born in a back alley apartment in ga ngster Chicago, and she's got connections...... Dan Helsper Puryear, TN do not archive -----Original Message----- From: amsafetyc Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 4:53 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN Dan its good advice. I would follow it if I were you John Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: John Hofmann Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 21:17:32 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following the sag e advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that "Wimmin's be thinkin' too much." Let me know how that works out for you. do not archive. -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ... ..."We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to h ave it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for -bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend install ing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN do not archive -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD~=EF=BD=EF=BD,=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD% =EF=BD=EF=BDM4=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDx=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD =EF=BDw=EF=BDr=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:23 PM PST US From: SENTUCHOWS@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Taxes on material Hey Billy, I found out the hard way. I ordered almost $2,000 worth of wood and other supplies. I live in Western North Carolina so I went and picked it up to save shipping. Surprise!!! The taxes on that amount were just short of the shipping by truck. Dave ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction From: james theissen Hi Billy, yes, i live west of savannah. I just retired from the army (23 years) as a 'heavy lift pilot' (chinook driver). rather do the 'low and slow' flying. James T On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Billy McCaskill wrote: > > Dave, I think that Heavyliftpilot lives in the same state as Aircraft Spruce where he intends to pick up his wood from. He'd be paying taxes on it whether he ordered it by phone, online, or picking it up in person. He can at least save the shipping charges if he picks it up personally, plus he can inspect the wood as he's loading it to make sure that it meets his specifications. I'd pick mine up too if I were in his position. > > -------- > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337545#337545 > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:33 PM PST US From: Doug Dever Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: model a heads Talk to Pieti Lowell He seems to know more about the "A" than anyone. Lowe ll? Doug Dever In beautiful Stow Ohio > Subject: Pietenpol-List: model a heads > From: jfaith@solairusaviation.com > Date: Tue=2C 19 Apr 2011 17:33:26 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > om> > > Hey A Guys.. > i know quite a few run a single ignition on the ford.... just wondering i f anyone has a thought on heads.. > i was kinda waiting on a dual plug head from snyders.. they are working o n the new casting.. and i'm on the list > but i wonder if i "need" dual ignition > i have a wico model c mag with an adjustable impulse and its hot ! > but i thought about a electronic "B" distributor too ... i need an electr ical system anyway > > been thinking about a winfield head... or thomas .. kinda want to stick w ith aluminum for weight > > jeff > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337553#337553 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Construction From: james theissen Hi Dave, i live west of savannah, and i think i'd rather pick up the wood and save on the shipping. however, i have not check on how much the shipping would be. James t On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:10 PM, wrote: > Heavyliftpilot, Don't forget if you pick up your kit they will charge you > taxes. > > Dave > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 05:57:32 PM PST US From: SENTUCHOWS@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props Skellflyer, Jay Anderson at Cloud Cars will sell you a rough prop. Sorry I don't know his number. Look in Barnstormers under wood props. Dave ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 05:57:49 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo Oscar, I've seen it advertised in various places for 6 months. I too wondered about Bills plans. I may call him and discuss. He is a great engineer, pilot and gentleman. He gave me my first and only Piet ride. Jack DSM -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:53 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: One-Seven-Whiskey-Romeo I just noticed in the latest BPA Newsletter that Bill Rewey's Piet, NX17WR, is for sale. Anybody know the story behind this? Is he hanging up his goggles or building another Piet? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" San Antonio, TX website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:13 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: correction covenant time? sorry, s/b convenient time! john do not archive, archiving is for sissy's ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props From: Rick Holland I use a Tennessee 66x30 and max out at 2950 static (but I am at 6700 ft). rick On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, skellytown flyer wrote: > skellflyer1@yahoo.com> > > Thanks guys- I guess mine is just a little more climb pitch. I just got off > the phone with the guy at Tennessee prop and he said most he has sold for > corvairs on Piet types have been 66X30's. I guess unless I find somebody out > there in the cyberworld with a good used one to swap or I find someone > willing to give me at least a little more than half what a new set of Grove > 5" wheels and brakes like I have here that I took off it cost. I'll > carefully continue testing some more and monitor the speed close.I hope to > borrow an optical tach at some point and check this thing but I'm looking at > readings from a Grand Rapids EIS unit set up for the Corvair engine so I > suspect it to be pretty accurate. I would think it counts the pulses > digitally and is awful accurate. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337525#337525 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:35 PM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN Dan, this has nothing to do with a fly-in at Loensloe AF -- it has to do with prop carving. I just wonder what kind of machinery a person would have to have to even consider carving a prop. Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:50 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN do not archive ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:26 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props Raymond, This, from my notes at Brodhead '09: Randy Bush, 64/32 Gary & Shad Bell, 66/30 PF Beck, 64/34 Kurt Shipman, 64/34 Best of luck to you! Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skellytown flyer Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:43 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm wondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a 66X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to really need either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in flight.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in level flight.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise indicating 70 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4 flights into it I have a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so far. I like Fords but guess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has a better spare prop you want to sell or swap for something I might have to spare let me know.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337484#337484 ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:08 PM PST US From: Doug Dever Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Taxes on material In most states you're gonna pay taxes on it anyway. I'd rather pay a littl e as I go than get hit with a big tax bill when I register my aircraft. You can pay me now...or pay me later. The government is like a bookie. The y always get their money. Doug Dever In beautiful Stow Ohio From: SENTUCHOWS@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Taxes on material Hey Billy=2C I found out the hard way. I ordered almost $2=2C000 worth of wood and o ther supplies. I live in Western North Carolina so I went and picked it up to save shipping. Surprise!!! The taxes on that amount were just short of the shipping by truck. Dave ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 06:17:50 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN Dan, 3 words: Chain of Command. Gary Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN do not archive ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:03 PM PST US From: "Stan Peek" Subject: Pietenpol-List: information from Chet Peek Chet Peek asked me to provide this information to the list: 1. I took the Model A and prop information directly from the 1932 MM Flying Manual which Bernie wrote, and from supporting conversations with family members. They mentioned that they first used a war surplus prop from a Lawrance Model A-3 engine, (page 8) but it wouldn't even get the plane off the ground. Everyone should buy that Flying Manual, EAA has them. In the 1920's people were afraid of high RPM because the Model T had no pressure oil feed and the A only had it to the mains. But I drove a Model A 200 miles each way to college for 2 years, (page 18), always at 60-65 MPH and never burned out a bearing. I don't know the exact specs on my prop since it came with the engine and with no other information, but with the twin ignition high compression head I expect to see 2000 at the top end. 2. About the elevators. Yes, I added an extras rib for two reasons. First, almost half the inner portion of the elevator surface was unsupported. Second, the ribs did not line up with the horizontal stabilizer ribs. It looked bad, so for aesthetic reasons I added the rib and put them in line with the elevator ribs. I've added a few things here or there, but certainly not over 15 pounds to the whole structure, and since I weigh only 125 pounds and I have a 50+ HP Model A, I don't worry. Stan Peek (Chet's son) ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:06 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN Chuck, I'll let Dan answer your question, but here's the hickory prop I carved from Dan's CD, but modeled after PF Beck's profile. Took 6 mos of study and working up courage, and 40 hours of carving, filing and sanding. Gary Boothe From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN Dan, this has nothing to do with a fly-in at Loensloe AF -- it has to do with prop carving. I just wonder what kind of machinery a person would have to have to even consider carving a prop. Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:50 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN do not archive ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props From: "skellytown flyer" thanks for the tips guys- I found one fellow in Kansas that had a 66x32 Sterba he loaned to a fellow and never got it back or any money. if he can get it back I may try it out and buy it if it works well.I am still searching for the Cloudcars site.so far no luck but if they are all scimitars- if I spelled that right I don't know how they would do on a Corvair . I expect he makes regular ones too.I'll sure try to make contact with him.those size ranges tell me I'm on the too flat side of the range to cruise much but by careful throttle control I my be able to fly some till I come up with one.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337575#337575 ________________________________ Message 48 ____________________________________ Time: 06:33:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props From: Ryan Mueller Cut back on your chosen vices for a bit to save up a few hundred bucks and send a check to Jay Anderson (Cloudcars) in Comanche.... Ryan do not archive On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:26 PM, skellytown flyer wrote: > skellflyer1@yahoo.com> > > I have considered it and that might be a good winter project! I need to > investigate it further. I know a fellow not too far from here that talked > about doing it and if he decides to try and builds a duplicator I have a > prop he can use for a pattern with one blade damaged that is about right for > him and I'd think I might be able to clamp my prop down with it rolled just > a little to increase the pitch and make one? lots of options. some a lot > more expensive than others.it would be nice if I could find someone that > could rough cut a blank for me to a good profile and I could spend time > sanding and finishing it. but it sounds like it sure needs to be precise to > stay balanced. do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337550#337550 > > ________________________________ Message 49 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:10 PM PST US From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props *Jay Anderson CLOUDCARS cloudcars(at)verizon.net 325-356-2810* Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:34 PM, skellytown flyer wrote: skellflyer1@yahoo.com> thanks for the tips guys- I found one fellow in Kansas that had a 66x32 Sterba he loaned to a fellow and never got it back or any money. if he can get it back I may try it out and buy it if it works well.I am still searching for the Cloudcars site.so far no luck but if they are all scimitars- if I spelled that right I don't know how they would do on a Corvair . I expect he makes regular ones too.I'll sure try to make contact with him.those size ranges tell me I'm on the too flat side of the range to cruise much but by careful throttle control I my be able to fly some till I come up with one.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337575#337575 ________________________________ Message 50 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: model a heads From: "Brett Phillips" Jeff: I'm afraid I know too much about the WICO model C (from tractor experience) to be eager to fly behind one. The Wico X is a better design, and parts are much easier to source and reasonably priced as this mag is still manufactured for industrial/agricultural applications. If you want to use an industrial/agricultural mag, the American Bosch base mounted mags are generally regarded as being well designed and reliable, but they are heavier than most other choices. Standard Magneto Sales in Chicago may still have some of these as New-Old-Stock. They should also be able to supply the coupling parts necessary to fine tune the timing on a base mounted mag setup. The side mounted mag drives sold by Ken Perkins are a clean and sanitary way to install a mag on a Ford, and I might be tempted to use one of them with a Slick mag, just be sure to verify that you have proper gear mesh. Distributors will require more complexity and perhaps weight, as they will require a full electrical system... Brett Phillips Strasburg, VA NX311GP On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:33:26 -0400, bender wrote: > > > Hey A Guys.. > i know quite a few run a single ignition on the ford.... just wondering > if anyone has a thought on heads.. > i was kinda waiting on a dual plug head from snyders.. they are working > on the new casting.. and i'm on the list > but i wonder if i "need" dual ignition > i have a wico model c mag with an adjustable impulse and its hot ! > but i thought about a electronic "B" distributor too ... i need an > electrical system anyway > > been thinking about a winfield head... or thomas .. kinda want to stick > with aluminum for weight > > jeff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337553#337553 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ________________________________ Message 51 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:14 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props From: "jarheadpilot82" I was just over in the U.K. and met some of the members of the U.K. Pietenpol Club. They have a member, I think that his name is Alan James, that carves props for people. I have attached an excel spreadsheet that is on their website for determining optimum prop diameter/pitch. I will simply say this - use at your own risk, but I hope that it helps. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337582#337582 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/proppitchcalculator_263.xls ________________________________ Message 52 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:15 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair props While we are on the subject of Corvair propellers and propeller carving. On my website is a good booklet written in 1984 called "How I Make Wood Propellers" by Al Schubert ( http://westcoastpiet.com/construction.htm ). In Part 1 on pages 67B to 68 and pages 68F to 68G, Mr. Schubert discusses a propeller he made for Mr. Pietenpol's Corvair powered Air Camper. It sure wish I could have know Mr. Schubert and Mr. Pietenpol. I would love to of had the pleasure of meeting them and learning from them. There my kind of people. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.