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1. 05:53 AM - Re: Taxes on material (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Taxes on material (SENTUCHOWS@aol.com)
3. 06:43 AM - Re: Corvair props (TOM STINEMETZE)
4. 09:12 AM - Re: Corvair props (Barry Davis)
5. 12:09 PM - EAA Store Special (K5YAC)
6. 12:46 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Dan Yocum)
7. 01:47 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (John Hofmann)
8. 02:22 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Jack Phillips)
9. 02:52 PM - Re: Aviation induced divorce syndrome (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
10. 02:54 PM - Jack and Karen's home (while they are building) and marriage- do not archive (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
11. 03:43 PM - Re: Corvair props (skellytown flyer)
12. 04:03 PM - Steel sheets (tdudley@umn.edu)
13. 04:15 PM - Re: Steel sheets (tdudley@umn.edu)
14. 04:35 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (helspersew@aol.com)
15. 04:42 PM - Re: Steel sheets (Jack Phillips)
16. 04:46 PM - Re: Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Jack Phillips)
17. 04:46 PM - AIDS Syndrome (helspersew@aol.com)
18. 04:51 PM - Re: Steel sheets (Jack Phillips)
19. 04:53 PM - Re: AIDS Syndrome (Jack Phillips)
20. 04:53 PM - Re: Re: Corvair props (steve emo)
21. 05:02 PM - Re: Steel sheets (dwilson)
22. 05:03 PM - Re: Steel sheets (Jerry Dotson)
23. 05:04 PM - Re: AIDS Syndrome (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
24. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: Steel sheets (Jack)
25. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Jack)
26. 06:03 PM - Nice hangar Jack! (shad bell)
27. 06:23 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Charles Campbell)
28. 06:30 PM - Re: Steel sheets (Charles Campbell)
29. 06:39 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Jack Phillips)
30. 07:13 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Clif Dawson)
31. 07:22 PM - Re: Aviation induced divorce syndrome (K5YAC)
32. 07:34 PM - Corvair props (Oscar Zuniga)
33. 07:34 PM - Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN (Clif Dawson)
34. 09:37 PM - San Antonio (Ken Bickers)
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| Subject: | Taxes on material |
Hi Dave,
Are you building a Piet with all that wood?
Skip
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Sent: 4/19/2011 8:56:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Taxes on material
Hey Billy,
I found out the hard way. I ordered almost $2,000 worth of wood and other supplies.
I live in Western North Carolina so I went and picked it up to save shipping.
Surprise!!! The taxes on that amount were just short of the shipping
by truck.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Taxes on material |
Hi Skip, Long time no see. How are you doin? No, I'm just a Piet fan. I
help Jim P. with his from time to time. I am building a biplane. I still have
my Mini Winnie.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
I can't seem to find Jay's phone number here at the office, but here is
his other contact information. He has built several different props for
us Corvair guys - both straight and scimatar. Everybody I have talked to
raves about them. Here is a photo of the one he built for me. Note how
the prop makes me look slimmer. (NOT)
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
Jay Anderson
CLOUDCARS
408 North Houston Street
Comanche, Texas 76442
>>> "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> 4/19/2011 8:30 PM >>>
I am still searching for the Cloudcars site.
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We use 66x30 Culver Props on the Big Piets, but several combinations will
work. We opted for the "swept back" prop (couldn't spell semitar??)instead
of a straight prop. They were the same price, but looked cooler. We have
since covered the prop leading edges with fiberglass after some rain erosion
during the trip to Brodhead & Airventure last year. With a 66" prop, 3100 is
the max rpm to keep the tip from going supersonic (I have not done the math
on this, but it is on a prop chart) We get 2950 static and 3100 plus a
little in cruise with the engine flat out.
Barry Davis
NX973BP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props
Raymond,
This, from my notes at Brodhead '09:
Randy Bush, 64/32
Gary & Shad Bell, 66/30
PF Beck, 64/34
Kurt Shipman, 64/34
Best of luck to you!
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skellytown
flyer
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:43 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair props
<skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
Well I have talked to Kevin and he runs a adjustable prop on his but I'm
wondering what the other folks with the GM's are using on theirs. I have a
66X29" Tennessee prop on this one I'm test flying now and it seems to really
need either more pitch or more blade size. it sure turns pretty high in
flight.have to pull the throttle way back to keep it under 3350 or more in
level flight.take-off performance isn't that impressive either.slow cruise
indicating 70 mph or a little more is still in the 3400 RPM range.only 4
flights into it I have a lot of testing and tweaking to do but it is fun so
far. I like Fords but guess crank snap'in could be addictive. if anybody has
a better spare prop you want to sell or swap for something I might have to
spare let me know.Raymond
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337484#337484
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| Subject: | EAA Store Special |
Just wanted to pass this info along in case anyone was interested.
Save 25% on Bingelis Books Through Saturday Only!
*Not valid on Bingelis set of 4.
Purchase $20 or more in EAA merchandise and you'll receive a free shopping tote.
*Add the tote (shown below) to your order. *Enter coupon code: TOTE at check out.
*Your tote will be discounted 100%.
- Do Not Archive
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337615#337615
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
Yeah, that's pretty much what my wife said, too.
That, and then she asked, "Are these guys married?!??"
;-)
do not archive
On 04/19/2011 06:14 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> She says to tell *all* ya'z that she was born in a back alley apartment
> in gangster Chicago, and she's got connections......
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 4:53 pm
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
>
> Dan its good advice. I would follow it if I were you
>
> John
>
> /Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless/
>
>
> -----Original message-----
>
> *From: *John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
> <mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>>*
> To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>*
> Sent: *Tue, Apr 19, 2011 21:17:32 GMT+00:00*
> Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
>
> I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following
> the sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that
> "Wimmin's be thinkin' too much."
>
> Let me know how that works out for you.
>
> do not archive.
>
> -john-
>
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com <mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
>
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com
> <mailto:helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this
>> year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some
>> women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the
>> Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after
>> all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I
>> mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom
>> electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light
>> and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
>> Dan Helsper
>> Puryear, TN
>> do not archive
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
Of course we are married....twice.
do not archive
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Apr 20, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's pretty much what my wife said, too.
>
> That, and then she asked, "Are these guys married?!??"
>
> ;-)
>
> do not archive
>
> On 04/19/2011 06:14 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>> She says to tell *all* ya'z that she was born in a back alley
apartment
>> in gangster Chicago, and she's got connections......
>> Dan Helsper
>> Puryear, TN do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
>> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 4:53 pm
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
>>
>> Dan its good advice. I would follow it if I were you
>>
>> John
>>
>> /Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless/
>>
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>>
>> *From: *John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
>> <mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>>*
>> To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>*
>> Sent: *Tue, Apr 19, 2011 21:17:32 GMT+00:00*
>> Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field,
TN
>>
>> I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan,
following
>> the sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that
>> "Wimmin's be thinkin' too much."
>>
>> Let me know how that works out for you.
>>
>> do not archive.
>>
>> -john-
>>
>> John Hofmann
>> Vice-President, Information Technology
>> The Rees Group, Inc.
>> 2424 American Lane
>> Madison, WI 53704
>> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
>> Fax: 608.443.2474
>> Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
<mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com
>> <mailto:helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be
this
>>> year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez,
some
>>> women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the
>>> Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after
>>> all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I
>>> mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom
>>> electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light
>>> and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
>>> Dan Helsper
>>> Puryear, TN
>>> do not archive
>>> <Logo 2 001.JPG>
>>
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> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
More than twice, for some of us. I=99m an AIDS survivor =93
Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome.
Dan it sounds like you just need to =9Cadjust=9D her
mindset. My wife has come to love living in our little hangar home at
Smith Mountain Lake. She even has it set up like a little Italian
restaurant
And here you can see the living accomodations Karen is subject to, so
tell your wife it could be worse, she could be =9CTrailer
Trash=9D
Note the bedsheet hanging on the back wall =93 an integral
component of our =9Chome theater system=9D (an LCD projector
shows movies against that bedsheet)
As Mike Cuy says, I=99m =9CLiving the Dream!=9D
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Hofmann
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
Of course we are married....twice.
do not archive
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Apr 20, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
Yeah, that's pretty much what my wife said, too.
That, and then she asked, "Are these guys married?!??"
;-)
do not archive
On 04/19/2011 06:14 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
She says to tell *all* ya'z that she was born in a back alley apartment
in gangster Chicago, and she's got connections......
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
Dan its good advice. I would follow it if I were you
John
/Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless/
-----Original message-----
*From: *John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
<mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>>*
To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>*
Sent: *Tue, Apr 19, 2011 21:17:32 GMT+00:00*
Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following
the sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that
"Wimmin's be thinkin' too much."
Let me know how that works out for you.
do not archive.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com <mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com
<mailto:helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this
year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some
women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the
Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after
all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I
mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom
electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light
and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Jack and Karen's home (while they are building) and marriage- |
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
Well after a day of work I received a reply from Cloudcars.it is a beautiful prop
to say the least. and though a little more expensive than a Sterba I wonder
how the performance compares? have any of you put enough hours on this style
prop to tell if there is performance gain and how they do for vibration ? I don't
want to become a true crank snapper for sure! thanks again for all the feedback
guys. I need to sell off a rifle or something and order one of those things.
they sure are classy.Raymond
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Has anyone ordered the Pietenpol steel sheet "kit" from Aircraft Spruce? You apparently
get three 18 X 72" sheets of 0.63, 0.090, and 0.125 (which I assume
is for 16, 13, and 10 ga., respectively).
I built the ribs, tail, and now the fuselage with wood from A.S., but I never ordered
the "kits" because I was worried they wouldn't be complete. I guess I
want to know if the steel sheet kit supplies enough of the sheet stock to complete
all the steel fittings for the airplane without having to order anything
else. If not, what other steel would I need to order?
Thanks,
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Steel sheets |
Maybe I should just ask:
Does anyone have an itemized list for the steel they ordered for their Piet? I've
found that the most frustrating part in the build so far has been my "ordering"
supplies later than I needed them and then had to slow things down for the
3 to 4 weeks before they arrived. My next step is steel fittings--I'd like
to place the order now (complete) so I can get to it next month when the fuselage
is done.
Thanks again,
Tom
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| Subject: | RE: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
Hey Jack,
Where is the skin on your hangar door? Doesn't it blow in there during thos
e tornados that frequent that area?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN do not archive
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What do the plans say? Seems like I made an awful lot of parts out of .090"
4130
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Steel sheets
Has anyone ordered the Pietenpol steel sheet "kit" from Aircraft Spruce?
You apparently get three 18 X 72" sheets of 0.63, 0.090, and 0.125 (which I
assume is for 16, 13, and 10 ga., respectively).
I built the ribs, tail, and now the fuselage with wood from A.S., but I
never ordered the "kits" because I was worried they wouldn't be complete. I
guess I want to know if the steel sheet kit supplies enough of the sheet
stock to complete all the steel fittings for the airplane without having to
order anything else. If not, what other steel would I need to order?
Thanks,
Tom
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| Subject: | RE: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
That picture was taken just after hanging the door frame and before we put
the sheathing on. After that we sprayed polyurethane foam insulation and
painted the interior of the hangar white, as you can see in the first photo.
We've got radiant heat in the floor of the hangar and it stayed toasty warm
all winter, even when it was single digits outside.
I don't think that hangar would withstand a direct hit from a tornado, but
it has already withstood some 70+ knot winds from thunderstorms.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
Hey Jack,
Where is the skin on your hangar door? Doesn't it blow in there during those
tornados that frequent that area?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN do not archive
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Brian,
Those inside living pics are from your hangar? No wonder your wife (2nd) do
esn't complain. Verrrrrrrrrrry cool set-up.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN do not archive
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You will need 0.032" for the control horns
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Steel sheets
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
What do the plans say? Seems like I made an awful lot of parts out of .090"
4130
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Steel sheets
Has anyone ordered the Pietenpol steel sheet "kit" from Aircraft Spruce?
You apparently get three 18 X 72" sheets of 0.63, 0.090, and 0.125 (which I
assume is for 16, 13, and 10 ga., respectively).
I built the ribs, tail, and now the fuselage with wood from A.S., but I
never ordered the "kits" because I was worried they wouldn't be complete. I
guess I want to know if the steel sheet kit supplies enough of the sheet
stock to complete all the steel fittings for the airplane without having to
order anything else. If not, what other steel would I need to order?
Thanks,
Tom
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Yep - looks very nice, Brian. My wife wanted such an apartment built in our
hangar, but when I started looking at what it would cost to build and then
have to tear it out after the house was finished, we just bought a travel
trailer and moved it in.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:44 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: AIDS Syndrome
Brian,
Those inside living pics are from your hangar? No wonder your wife (2nd)
doesn't complain. Verrrrrrrrrrry cool set-up.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair props |
I've been working on the side lately to come up with a prop design for a
Curtiss Pusher powered by an OX-5 - I think that is similar to a Corvair...
it's about 90HP -- but much slower RPM. This will be a custom wood prop.
This UK spread sheet is fairly basic and gives you a reasonable estimate of
the diameter. That is basically 850 ft/s tip speed for wood and 950 ft/s
for metal. The trick is the pitch/airfoil and chord. He makes a pretty
optimistic assumption of 88% efficiency which I don't think you'll get.
There are lots of sources for information on prop selection. The EAA had
two excellent articles that will can be understood without jumping into the
real ugly math. Applications of wooden and metal propellers - by
Sunderland, Nov 1973, and Give it a whirl by Neal Willford, July 2004.
Willford also has a spread sheet he developed that is much more
comprehensive and is available over the EAA site. All of these papers are
based on a number of NACA repors of which the must reads are #924 and #640,
#212 is a good place to start because walks you through a sizing process and
shows the importance on the diameter, and gives you the allowable stress for
the various types of woods. Also #350 is more for metal props, but it has
some reasonable profile drags that the fuselage presents. #460 gives a much
deeper look at various airfoil characteristics. But cutting to the end RAF
6 and Clack Y are favored. Now if I haven't dumped enough on you there is
also a German site called JAVAprop that actually will let you design a prop
using his software for free. www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/jp_content.htm
This the most in-depth and comprehensive program I've seen for free. In
summary everything I've listed is free just Google and enjoy.
Hope that helps.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:34 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com
> wrote:
> jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
>
> I was just over in the U.K. and met some of the members of the U.K.
> Pietenpol Club. They have a member, I think that his name is Alan James,
> that carves props for people. I have attached an excel spreadsheet that is
> on their website for determining optimum prop diameter/pitch. I will simply
> say this - use at your own risk, but I hope that it helps.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337582#337582
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/proppitchcalculator_263.xls
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| Subject: | Re: Steel sheets |
Don't forget some .035 for the control horns. You may also want to purchase more
than you think you will need. I built my horns a couple of times until I was
satisfied with them. Ken Perkins gave a nice presentation about building the
fitttings during Broadhead the last couple of years. I made new horns after
seeing the Aircamper Bernard built in 1947 that is located in Fountain, MN.
dwilson
Austin, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Steel sheets |
Tom,
I used 1 each of 0.032, 0.060 and 0.090 18X36 and 1 each 0.125 18X18
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: AIDS Syndrome |
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| Subject: | Re: Steel sheets |
Peter from Australia has a comprehensive listing of all the steel parts here
http://www.cpc-world.com See attached listing.
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel sheets
Maybe I should just ask:
Does anyone have an itemized list for the steel they ordered for their Piet?
I've found that the most frustrating part in the build so far has been my
"ordering" supplies later than I needed them and then had to slow things
down for the 3 to 4 weeks before they arrived. My next step is steel
fittings--I'd like to place the order now (complete) so I can get to it next
month when the fuselage is done.
Thanks again,
Tom
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| Subject: | 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
Don=99t bother knocking if the trailers rocking
Jack
DSM
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field,
TN
More than twice, for some of us. I=99m an AIDS survivor =93
Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome.
Dan it sounds like you just need to =9Cadjust=9D her
mindset. My wife has come to love living in our little hangar home at
Smith Mountain Lake. She even has it set up like a little Italian
restaurant
And here you can see the living accomodations Karen is subject to, so
tell your wife it could be worse, she could be =9CTrailer
Trash=9D
Note the bedsheet hanging on the back wall =93 an integral
component of our =9Chome theater system=9D (an LCD projector
shows movies against that bedsheet)
As Mike Cuy says, I=99m =9CLiving the Dream!=9D
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Hofmann
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
Of course we are married....twice.
do not archive
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Apr 20, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
Yeah, that's pretty much what my wife said, too.
That, and then she asked, "Are these guys married?!??"
;-)
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On 04/19/2011 06:14 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
She says to tell *all* ya'z that she was born in a back alley apartment
in gangster Chicago, and she's got connections......
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
Dan its good advice. I would follow it if I were you
John
/Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless/
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*From: *John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
<mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>>*
To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>*
Sent: *Tue, Apr 19, 2011 21:17:32 GMT+00:00*
Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan, following
the sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that
"Wimmin's be thinkin' too much."
Let me know how that works out for you.
do not archive.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com <mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com
<mailto:helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be this
year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez, some
women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the
Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that, after
all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted. I
mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom
electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light
and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Nice hangar Jack! |
Jack That is one damn nice hangar you got there.=C2-=C2- Makes mine lik
e like a pig barn.=C2- I can't complain though, my wife supported us buyi
ng=C2-our airport home=C2-even before we were married.=C2- I think so
metimes she might regret it, I spend most of my free time out there, and ob
sess about getting my airplane done.=C2- When I am not out there I am buz
zing around in the Pietenpol.
=C2-
Shad
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
And here you can see the living accomodations Karen is subject to, so tell
your wife it could be worse, she could be =9CTrailer Trash=9D
Note the bedsheet hanging on the back wall =93 an integral component
of our =9Chome theater system=9D (an LCD projector shows movies
against that bedsheet)
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
As Mike Cuy says, I=99m =9CLiving the Dream!=9D
=C2-
Jack Phillips
NX899JP=C2- =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
In that picture the Piet looks like it has a bit of negative dihedral.
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
More than twice, for some of us. I=99m an AIDS survivor
=93 Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome.
Dan it sounds like you just need to =9Cadjust=9D her
mindset. My wife has come to love living in our little hangar home at
Smith Mountain Lake. She even has it set up like a little Italian
restaurant
And here you can see the living accomodations Karen is subject to, so
tell your wife it could be worse, she could be =9CTrailer
Trash=9D
Note the bedsheet hanging on the back wall =93 an integral
component of our =9Chome theater system=9D (an LCD projector
shows movies against that bedsheet)
As Mike Cuy says, I=99m =9CLiving the Dream!=9D
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Hofmann
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 4:44 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
Of course we are married....twice.
do not archive
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Apr 20, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
Yeah, that's pretty much what my wife said, too.
That, and then she asked, "Are these guys married?!??"
;-)
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On 04/19/2011 06:14 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
She says to tell *all* ya'z that she was born in a back alley
apartment
in gangster Chicago, and she's got connections......
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
Dan its good advice. I would follow it if I were you
John
/Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless/
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<mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>>*
To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>*
Sent: *Tue, Apr 19, 2011 21:17:32 GMT+00:00*
Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field,
TN
I said this to Yocum on FaceBook and it didn't take. Dan,
following
the sage advice of the late Ike Turner, just inform her that
"Wimmin's be thinkin' too much."
Let me know how that works out for you.
do not archive.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
<mailto:jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, helspersew@aol.com
<mailto:helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
My wife just informed me that our 1st Piet fly-in will NOT be
this
year ......"We have too much work to do on this place". Geez,
some
women have to have it all right away......well, maybe its the
Wal-mart-shower-curtains-for-bathroom walls. But even that,
after
all, I did go along with the designer color upgrade she wanted.
I
mean, I worked my but off last weekend installing the bathroom
electrical curcuit, so she didn't have to use the clip-on light
and extension cord anymore. Sometimes there is no appreciation.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Steel sheets |
The 1-inch wide 4130 strips are nice for the 1-inch wide wing fittings. All
you have to do is whack them off at the right length, drill the holes, and
round off the ends a bit.
----- Original Message -----
From: <tdudley@umn.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Steel sheets
>
> Has anyone ordered the Pietenpol steel sheet "kit" from Aircraft Spruce?
> You apparently get three 18 X 72" sheets of 0.63, 0.090, and 0.125 (which
> I assume is for 16, 13, and 10 ga., respectively).
>
> I built the ribs, tail, and now the fuselage with wood from A.S., but I
> never ordered the "kits" because I was worried they wouldn't be complete.
> I guess I want to know if the steel sheet kit supplies enough of the sheet
> stock to complete all the steel fittings for the airplane without having
> to order anything else. If not, what other steel would I need to order?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337635#337635
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN |
It has negative dihedral (not to be confused with anhedral) in the left
wing, but positive dihedral in the right. Had to do that to make it fly
straight.
Just kidding. Darn short focal length lens causes such effects. My
Pietenpol actually has a slight amount of dihedral (about =BD=94 per
side) to
avoid the dreaded =93drooping wing look=94, which I=92ve never actually
noticed on
any one-piece wing Piet. Nor can I say in truth that such a slight
amount
of dihedral does anything for lateral stability. The RV-4 looks like
the
wing is nearly level, when in fact it has quite a bit of dihedral.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
In that picture the Piet looks like it has a bit of negative dihedral.
Do
not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack <mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 1st Piet fly-in at Loensloe Field, TN
More than twice, for some of us. I=92m an AIDS survivor ' Aviation
Induced
Divorce Syndrome.
Dan it sounds like you just need to =93adjust=94 her mindset. My wife
has come
to love living in our little hangar home at Smith Mountain Lake. She
even
has it set up like a little Italian restaurant
And here you can see the living accomodations Karen is subject to, so
tell
your wife it could be worse, she could be =93Trailer Trash=94
Note the bedsheet hanging on the back wall ' an integral component of
our
=93home theater system=94 (an LCD projector shows movies against that
bedsheet)
As Mike Cuy says, I=92m =93Living the Dream!=94
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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I guess most of us just never figured this whole
issue out soon enough! :-)
Mike was going to be married to Karen so his father sat him down for a
little chat.
He said, "Mike, let me tell you something. On my wedding night in our
honeymoon suite, I took off my pants, handed them to your mother, and said,
Here - try these on.'
She did and said, 'These are too big. I can't wear them.'
I replied, 'Exactly. I wear the pants in this family and I always will.'
Ever since that night, we have never had any problems."
"Hmmm," said Mike. He thought that might be a good thing to try.
On his honeymoon, Mike took off his pants and said to Karen, "Here - try
these on."
She tried them on and said, "These are too large. They don't fit me."
Mike said, "Exactly. I wear the pants in this family and I always will. I
don't want you to ever forget that."
Then Karen took off her pants and handed them to Mike. She said, "Here - you
try on mine."
He did and said, "I can't get into your pants."
Karen said, "Exactly. And if you don't change your smart-ass attitude, you
never will."
Clif
> Yeah, that's pretty much what my wife said, too. That, and then she asked,
> "Are these guys married?!??"
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Every fleet MUST have a Stik. Probably the best all around flier out there.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337665#337665
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Now Raymond, why do you bother starting your search for a prop without
first looking right here in the Lone Star State with people you know?
;o) I have a new, in the box Tennessee Props 62x34 prop for the Corvair
and it has nobody to dance with right now. I would be happy to loan
you the prop for testing, with the usual "you break it/you bought it"
caveats. You can see a pic of it here:
http://www.flysquirrel.net/corvair/corvair.html
The prop size was determined by Tennessee Props after I told them what
it was going on, what was intended to power it, cruise speed, etc.- but
I don't think they had made any props for this engine/airframe combination
before, so it may not be optimum. For testing, though, it should at
least give you another point of reference.
Like my optometrist says, as she clicks different lenses into the
diagnostic apparatus: "is it better with THIS, or with THIS?"
Get with me off-list and we'll arrange for shipping, if you want to try
this prop out. Texans don't let other Texans get outside help ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
San Antonio, TX
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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It's just a hen sheltering it's little white offspring. :-)
Clif
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Friends,
I'm on my way tomorrow for a work-related conference in San Antonio.
As it happens, I'll have some free time and a rental car on Saturday.
I'd love to meet some Pietenpol folks, if that might be convenient for
you. Oscar, anyone else -- if you are in the area around San Antonio
and have a few minutes for a visit on Saturday, is this something that
might work for you? Feel free to contact me off-line.
My best, Ken
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