Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 04/23/11


Total Messages Posted: 25



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     1. 04:38 AM - Re: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX (Jack)
     2. 04:44 AM - Re: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX (Kip and Beth Gardner)
     3. 06:14 AM - Re: PHL May 2-6 (echobravo4)
     4. 06:28 AM - Re: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX (Lloyd Smith)
     5. 06:30 AM - Re: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX (Jim Markle)
     6. 06:30 AM - Re: PHL May 2-6 (Jim Markle)
     7. 06:51 AM - Re: spraying latex ()
     8. 06:54 AM - latex bonding to fabric (Douwe Blumberg)
     9. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: San Antonio (Ken Bickers)
    10. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: spraying latex (airlion)
    11. 07:50 AM - Re: spraying latex (Gboothe5)
    12. 08:39 AM - Re: San Antonio (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM)
    13. 09:12 AM - Re: PHL May 2-6 (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
    14. 10:05 AM - Rib Questions (Mark M)
    15. 10:16 AM - Another rib question (Mark M)
    16. 10:29 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Routing (Jim Boyer)
    17. 12:08 PM - Re: Rib Questions (Ben Charvet)
    18. 02:13 PM - Re: latex bonding to fabric (skellytown flyer)
    19. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: latex bonding to fabric (shad bell)
    20. 03:03 PM - Re: Re: latex bonding to fabric (Kip and Beth Gardner)
    21. 03:17 PM - Re: latex bonding to fabric (skellytown flyer)
    22. 04:01 PM - Re: Another rib question (jarheadpilot82)
    23. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: latex bonding to fabric (gliderx5@comcast.net)
    24. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: latex bonding to fabric (gliderx5@comcast.net)
    25. 09:00 PM - Re: PHL May 2-6 (Matthew VanDervort)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:38:55 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX
    Sterling, My thoughts and prayers are with you, your friends and family! Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 10:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX Some of you may remember our friend Sterling, who came up with the concept of the TACOs (Texas Air Camper Organization). He has developed melanoma and recent tests have indicated that it's going to progress unabated, so he's preparing to get his things in order so as not to leave his wife with a bunch of guy stuff to figure out and dispose of when he goes. Here's the email straight from his keyboard, and he is not one to pull punches or fool around and neither am I, so here's the deal: ===================== This is the link to the video I just uploaded to my YouTube account. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwbx3Q8cv7c The video is really lousy and not typical of my work, but I am in a rush to get a lot of things done before my surgery on 4-27. I hope to get my auction on Ebay late this weekend. I very much appreciate your helping me get word out on this. Life has gotten very complicated in the last few weeks and I have so much to do as I prepare for the big change that is about to happen. I'm in a "Muy Pronto" mindset! If you will be so kind to suggest that I'm selling this due to health reasons and also mention I might not be able to answer questions off of my YouTube account or through Ebay due to the surgery and treatment after. However I'll do my best to answer if I can. The surgeon mentioned after surgery the need to stay at home and out of dusty areas because of the risk of infection (and maybe falling on my fat bohunkus). I'm planning of putting the A-80 engine on a separate auction soon. It will come with an aluminum prop... forgot what brand it is, but it is in storage in my barn. Also, my Cessna 150/150 will be for sale soon. Not sure if I'll put that on Barnstormers or where. I do encourage "pre-bid" inspections and I would do my best to accommodate anyone who would like to see this in person, at the airport in Ballinger, Texas (Bruce Field, E30) Not shown in my video are plexiglass windshields for the passenger and pilot. I have these as they were cut by the original builder. I also have the horizontal stabilizer I forgot to show in the video. Thanks again so much for helping "communicate" this. I am just way out of the loop with people these days. Sterling =================== Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" San Antonio, TX website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 04:44:25 AM PST US
    From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX
    This is the worst kind of news. Sterling is one of the good guys. Do not archive. Kip Gardner On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > > > > Some of you may remember our friend Sterling, who came up with the > concept of the TACOs (Texas Air Camper Organization). He has > developed > melanoma and recent tests have indicated that it's going to progress > unabated, so he's preparing to get his things in order so as not to > leave > his wife with a bunch of guy stuff to figure out and dispose of when > he goes. > Here's the email straight from his keyboard, and he is not one to pull > punches or fool around and neither am I, so here's the deal: > ===================== > > This is the link to the video I just uploaded to my YouTube account. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwbx3Q8cv7c > > The video is really lousy and not typical of my work, but I am > in a rush to get a lot of things done before my surgery on 4-27. I > hope > to get my auction on Ebay late this weekend. > > I very much appreciate your helping me get word out on this. Life has > gotten very complicated in the last few weeks and I have so much to do > as I prepare for the big change that is about to happen. I'm in a > "Muy Pronto" mindset! > > If you will be so kind to suggest that I'm selling this due to > health reasons > and also mention I might not be able to answer questions off of my > YouTube > account or through Ebay due to the surgery and treatment after. > However I'll > do my best to answer if I can. The surgeon mentioned after surgery > the need > to stay at home and out of dusty areas because of the risk of > infection > (and maybe falling on my fat bohunkus). > > I'm planning of putting the A-80 engine on a separate auction soon. > It will > come with an aluminum prop... forgot what brand it is, but it is in > storage > in my barn. Also, my Cessna 150/150 will be for sale soon. Not sure > if I'll > put that on Barnstormers or where. > > I do encourage "pre-bid" inspections and I would do my best to > accommodate > anyone who would like to see this in person, at the airport in > Ballinger, Texas > (Bruce Field, E30) > > Not shown in my video are plexiglass windshields for the passenger > and pilot. > I have these as they were cut by the original builder. I also have > the horizontal > stabilizer I forgot to show in the video. > > Thanks again so much for helping "communicate" this. I am just way > out of the > loop with people these days. > > Sterling > =================== > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > San Antonio, TX > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >


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    Time: 06:14:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: PHL May 2-6
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    Hey Matt- I'd love to but won't be back from Germany 'til the 9th. I'm in Downingtown- about 30-40 outside of Philly. do let me know if ya get out here again tho! -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337893#337893


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    Time: 06:28:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX
    From: Lloyd Smith <lesmith240@gmail.com>
    I hope Sterling has made the trip to M D Anderson Medical Center. I was diagnosed w/ Stage 4 melanoma 12/09. I put my intentions of building on hold until such time as I was certain of the direction I was headed. Still don't know, but there are many exciting treatments being developed. Don't throw in the towel yet. On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Kip and Beth Gardner < kipandbeth@earthlink.net> wrote: > kipandbeth@earthlink.net> > > This is the worst kind of news. Sterling is one of the good guys. > > Do not archive. > > Kip Gardner > > > On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > >> > >> >> >> Some of you may remember our friend Sterling, who came up with the >> concept of the TACOs (Texas Air Camper Organization). He has developed >> melanoma and recent tests have indicated that it's going to progress >> unabated, so he's preparing to get his things in order so as not to leave >> his wife with a bunch of guy stuff to figure out and dispose of when he >> goes. >> Here's the email straight from his keyboard, and he is not one to pull >> punches or fool around and neither am I, so here's the deal: >> ===================== >> >> This is the link to the video I just uploaded to my YouTube account. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwbx3Q8cv7c >> >> The video is really lousy and not typical of my work, but I am >> in a rush to get a lot of things done before my surgery on 4-27. I hope >> to get my auction on Ebay late this weekend. >> >> I very much appreciate your helping me get word out on this. Life has >> gotten very complicated in the last few weeks and I have so much to do >> as I prepare for the big change that is about to happen. I'm in a >> "Muy Pronto" mindset! >> >> If you will be so kind to suggest that I'm selling this due to health >> reasons >> and also mention I might not be able to answer questions off of my YouTube >> account or through Ebay due to the surgery and treatment after. However >> I'll >> do my best to answer if I can. The surgeon mentioned after surgery the >> need >> to stay at home and out of dusty areas because of the risk of infection >> (and maybe falling on my fat bohunkus). >> >> I'm planning of putting the A-80 engine on a separate auction soon. It >> will >> come with an aluminum prop... forgot what brand it is, but it is in >> storage >> in my barn. Also, my Cessna 150/150 will be for sale soon. Not sure if >> I'll >> put that on Barnstormers or where. >> >> I do encourage "pre-bid" inspections and I would do my best to accommodate >> anyone who would like to see this in person, at the airport in Ballinger, >> Texas >> (Bruce Field, E30) >> >> Not shown in my video are plexiglass windshields for the passenger and >> pilot. >> I have these as they were cut by the original builder. I also have the >> horizontal >> stabilizer I forgot to show in the video. >> >> Thanks again so much for helping "communicate" this. I am just way out of >> the >> loop with people these days. >> >> Sterling >> =================== >> Oscar Zuniga >> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" >> San Antonio, TX >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >> >> >> >> >> > > -- "Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool."---Anonymous


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    Time: 06:30:34 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX
    Wholeheartedly agree with you Kip. Sterling is a good one. Here's hoping he gets through all this with the best outcome possible.... JM -----Original Message----- >From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net> >Sent: Apr 23, 2011 6:42 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sterling's Piet project for sale in TX > > >This is the worst kind of news. Sterling is one of the good guys. > >Do not archive. > >Kip Gardner > >On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > >> > >> >> >> Some of you may remember our friend Sterling, who came up with the >> concept of the TACOs (Texas Air Camper Organization). He has >> developed >> melanoma and recent tests have indicated that it's going to progress >> unabated, so he's preparing to get his things in order so as not to >> leave >> his wife with a bunch of guy stuff to figure out and dispose of when >> he goes. >> Here's the email straight from his keyboard, and he is not one to pull >> punches or fool around and neither am I, so here's the deal: >> ===================== >> >> This is the link to the video I just uploaded to my YouTube account. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwbx3Q8cv7c >> >> The video is really lousy and not typical of my work, but I am >> in a rush to get a lot of things done before my surgery on 4-27. I >> hope >> to get my auction on Ebay late this weekend. >> >> I very much appreciate your helping me get word out on this. Life has >> gotten very complicated in the last few weeks and I have so much to do >> as I prepare for the big change that is about to happen. I'm in a >> "Muy Pronto" mindset! >> >> If you will be so kind to suggest that I'm selling this due to >> health reasons >> and also mention I might not be able to answer questions off of my >> YouTube >> account or through Ebay due to the surgery and treatment after. >> However I'll >> do my best to answer if I can. The surgeon mentioned after surgery >> the need >> to stay at home and out of dusty areas because of the risk of >> infection >> (and maybe falling on my fat bohunkus). >> >> I'm planning of putting the A-80 engine on a separate auction soon. >> It will >> come with an aluminum prop... forgot what brand it is, but it is in >> storage >> in my barn. Also, my Cessna 150/150 will be for sale soon. Not sure >> if I'll >> put that on Barnstormers or where. >> >> I do encourage "pre-bid" inspections and I would do my best to >> accommodate >> anyone who would like to see this in person, at the airport in >> Ballinger, Texas >> (Bruce Field, E30) >> >> Not shown in my video are plexiglass windshields for the passenger >> and pilot. >> I have these as they were cut by the original builder. I also have >> the horizontal >> stabilizer I forgot to show in the video. >> >> Thanks again so much for helping "communicate" this. I am just way >> out of the >> loop with people these days. >> >> Sterling >> =================== >> Oscar Zuniga >> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" >> San Antonio, TX >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:30:54 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: PHL May 2-6
    It would just be wrong to be in the Philly area and NOT go pester Recine..... -----Original Message----- >From: VanDy <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> >Sent: Apr 22, 2011 11:34 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: PHL May 2-6 > > >I will be in Philly May 2nd thru the 6th, just found out. I will have a rental car and be available most evenings, or can make myself available in the evening, anybody wanna talk pietenpols?? :) > >-------- >www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there! > >almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337878#337878 > >


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    Time: 06:51:16 AM PST US
    From: <r.r.hall@cox.net>
    Subject: spraying latex
    Only the first coats need to be brushed so they adher mechanically to the f abric. I do not know how many people use latex for the first coat and how m any use a polyfiber or dope peoduct for the first coats. Poyfiber and nitra te dope need to mechanically adhere to the fabric and I do not think you ca n find something that adhers well to polyester fabric chemically without we akening it. There are other systems that may, I know nothing about stewart system or Hipec. Rodney Hall ---- Chris <catdesigns@att.net> wrote: > <HTML ='xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"' xmlns:o = "3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"">I thought=C2-the reason for brushing was to work the water base paint into the fabric so it will m echanically attach its self to the fabric.=C2- I seem to=C2-recall the chemical based paints chemically bond to the fabric. True False?=C2-Chris Sacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com


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    Time: 06:54:19 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: latex bonding to fabric
    You're right Chris, If latex is your first coat, the "accepted" practice seems to be brushing it on with a foam brush ensuring it gets squeezed into and encapsulates the weave to form a mechanical bond. Consecutive coats will adhere to the first coat, so spraying is fine. My first coat was nitrate dope, which the latex sticks to well. Douwe


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    Time: 06:57:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: San Antonio
    From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
    Kevin, thanks for the offer. I'm looking forward to meeting Oscar and John later today. We won't be able to make it up to Austin on this trip. Definitely another time. I grew up just north of Austin, at least it was still north of the city in those days. We lived not far from Tim's Airpark, where my older brother was a lineboy for awhile in the early '70s. Sadly Tim's is gone now. I have many fond memories of the EAA flyin that was in Georgetown before it moved to Kerrville. My best, Ken Do Not Archive On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:56 PM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote: > > Ken - If you end up with LOTS of extra time I'd be happy to show you Fat Bottomed Girl. She's in Georgetown, north of Austin. Probably two hours north of Oscar. > > Kevin > 512-422-6371 > > do not archive > > -------- > Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337873#337873 > >


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    Time: 07:02:48 AM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: spraying latex
    Ya'll won't believe how hard it is to rip the covering off my latex covered empenage and wings to recover all my fittings.It was easier to cover than to uncover. Gardiner.. PS, Kevin hope ya'll are able to get those fires out. --- On Sat, 4/23/11, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote: > From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: spraying latex > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 12:06 AM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted > by: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > Will the wing still create lift with latex on it? > > (sorry - can't help myself) > > do not archive > > -------- > Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337876#337876 > > > > > > > > Email Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > >


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    Time: 07:50:48 AM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: spraying latex
    My intent is to brush a primer coat, then spray=85.but I do like that brushed look on The Bell Pietenpol! Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 9:41 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: spraying latex I thought the reason for brushing was to work the water base paint into the fabric so it will mechanically attach its self to the fabric. I seem to recall the chemical based paints chemically bond to the fabric. True False? Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gboothe5@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spraying latex Douwe, Thanks for the info! I'll be using Benjamin Moore's Aura brand (0 VOC), but haven't decided on application. Gary Boothe Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE _____ From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: spraying latex Anyone thinking of doing a latex paint = job=85 My new paint scheme is going to be a =93faux = clear-doped linen look=94 with a trim color edging and nose. The ceconite = will be sprayed with a tinted clear dope, but the trim color (a weird british = green) is proving very hard to match in dope, so I started looking at = latex. I just purchased a new hvlp gun for work and just = finished some spray experiments with latex and I gotta tell you, anybody out = there preparing to do a latex paint job should really consider spraying. = I simply am amazed at how nice the test panels came out. The semi gloss I used = really mimics dope, or one could easily spray a clear coat of dope on top and = it would be difficult to tell the difference. Now I just take my paint chip to Home Depot, have = them put it under the spectrometer, then hit the auto paint shop for the matching = enamel for the sheet metal and we=92re good to = go! Secret seems to be diluting with windshield washer = fluid for good spraying qualities (smaller atomization) and floetrol for better = flowing qualities once the paint is on the surface. Mixed solution I used = took about 25 seconds to exit a standard viscosity cup. Seemed almost = impossible to get a run on a vertical surface too, which was kinda = neat. Douwe 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"'>http://www .matr onics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.c om/co ntribution 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ~=B2 _____


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    Time: 08:39:37 AM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: San Antonio
    John, I am in lovely Basra, Iraq. I whould be in the SA area in mid fall. I will keep y'all posted. There is one wild card. I have had my name proposed for a position in the Czech Republic. My real boss and I are discussing it. She is not crazy about such a sudden move to europe. I guess I could figure out how to fly the Vtail there. I am one of 4 who's names have been proposed. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: San Antonio > Steve, > where the heck are you? I am so computer/worldtime shot. BTW > thanks for > all you do--saving our asses etc. pls call when you are home. we > need to > talk piets'n 'stuff John > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG > FORSCOM <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote: > > > < > > > > John, looks like I am going to be heading back to Fort Sam Houston. I will > > finish the deployment this fall and would love to take a look at your next > > pile of junk. LOL. > > > > Blue Skies, > > Steve D > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), > President, KUHLCOUPER LLC


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    Time: 09:12:18 AM PST US
    From: "Amsafetyc@gmail.com" <amsafetyc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: PHL May 2-6
    Iam in town and would welcome a visit John Recine 215 208 8309 Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2011 13:32:44 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: PHL May 2-6 It would just be wrong to be in the Philly area and NOT go pester Recine..... -----Original Message----- >From: VanDy <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> >Sent: Apr 22, 2011 11:34 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: PHL May 2-6 > <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com> > >I will be in Philly May 2nd thru the 6th, just found out. I will have a rental car and be available most evenings, or can make myself available in the evening, anybody wanna talk pietenpols?? :) > >-------- >www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there! > >almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337878#337878 > >


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    Time: 10:05:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Rib Questions
    From: "Mark M" <mmcfi@juno.com>
    There was a discussion about cutting your own cap strips a little while ago and I am a little confused. I have read the circular on selecting wood and and now totally lost. My vocabulary is limited to whatyamacallits and thingamajigs. Reason being,I lucked in to about 20 BF of spruce for $10.00 and was going to get started while waiting for my order to arrive. After I cut my capstrips which way should the grain be running. Please check the drawing and let me know. Thanks Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337919#337919 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/file0002_171.jpg


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    Time: 10:16:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Another rib question
    From: "Mark M" <mmcfi@juno.com>
    I am plotting out the 612 rib and while looking at various photos of previous ribs made i see that some have vertical supports along the spars and some do not. The Pietenpol original wing plan does not have them, with the attachment point being nails along the top and bottom of the spar. Does having them make installation easier later on? I would like to not have the extra pound or two of wood if they are not necessary. Just trying to see the logic in the various methods. Thanks Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337921#337921


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    Time: 10:29:43 AM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cable Routing
    Hi Gary, Thanks I think Arlene and I will do that. Probably mid to late May if you are going to be home. Cheers, Jim Do not archive


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    Time: 12:08:29 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Rib Questions
    On 4/23/2011 1:03 PM, Mark M wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark M"<mmcfi@juno.com> > > There was a discussion about cutting your own cap strips a little while ago and I am a little confused. I have read the circular on selecting wood and and now totally lost. My vocabulary is limited to whatyamacallits and thingamajigs. Reason being,I lucked in to about 20 BF of spruce for $10.00 and was going to get started while waiting for my order to arrive. After I cut my capstrips which way should the grain be running. Please check the drawing and let me know. > Thanks > Mark > > Choice B is the preferred orientation. I made all my ribs from Douglas Fir bought at Lowe's. I could only find one or two boards at a time that had a tight enough grain, but I'd plane them down to 1/2 inch and then rip 1/4 inch strips on the table saw. Most lumber yard boards come with the grain orientation as in you diagram A > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center


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    Time: 02:13:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: latex bonding to fabric
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    I picked up some Latex today- best one Sherwin Williams carries.I'm going to cover my wings and tail before they get any oil and such hopefully. I'm not happy flying them just with Polyspray over the long haul.I am planning on trying to use foam brush and roller. I'm looking for experience to guide me with how much to thin? I have some flow control agent. and if necessary a gallon of bug juice- windshield washer fluid. but the guy at the store says all it takes is a few ounces of the floetrol type stuff. (it's a different brand but he says it's just as good) I know I'll need to re-calculate the W&B afterward but I can deal with that.if any of you went through the finish with roller and foam brush and wouldn't mind I'd sure like to hear about your results.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337943#337943


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    Time: 02:54:32 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: latex bonding to fabric
    I would not use a roller.- A foam brush would work well.- The brush wil l help insure that it gets brushed into the fabric, the roller could leave voids, adheasion problems, and probably won't look as good as a brush.- I 'd recomend at least-2 cross coats (4 total coats) 90 degrees to each oth er, 1 span wise, next 1 chord wise, span wise, chord wise.- Then judge if you need any more coats.-Experiment and see what works for you. - Shad --- On Sat, 4/23/11, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> wrote: From: skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex bonding to fabric .com> I picked up some Latex today- best one Sherwin Williams carries.I'm going t o cover my wings and tail before they get any oil and such hopefully. I'm n ot happy flying them just with Polyspray over the long haul.I am planning o n trying to- use foam brush and roller. I'm looking for experience to gui de me with how much to thin? I have some flow control agent. and if necessa ry a gallon of bug juice- windshield washer fluid. but the guy at the store says all it takes is a few ounces of the floetrol type stuff. (it's a diff erent brand but he says it's just as good) I know I'll need to re-calculate the W&B afterward but I can deal with that.if any of you went through the finish with roller and foam brush and wouldn't mind I'd sure like to hear a bout your results.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337943#337943 le, List Admin.


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    Time: 03:03:08 PM PST US
    From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: latex bonding to fabric
    I can state from seeing up close & personal that Shad's brushed-on paint job looks real fine - kind of old-timey, but do you really want super-slick on a plane like this? Kip Gardner On Apr 23, 2011, at 5:52 PM, shad bell wrote: > I would not use a roller. A foam brush would work well. The brush > will help insure that it gets brushed into the fabric, the roller > could leave voids, adheasion problems, and probably won't look as > good as a brush. I'd recomend at least 2 cross coats (4 total > coats) 90 degrees to each other, 1 span wise, next 1 chord wise, > span wise, chord wise. Then judge if you need any more coats. > Experiment and see what works for you. > > Shad > > --- On Sat, 4/23/11, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex bonding to fabric > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 5:11 PM > > > > > I picked up some Latex today- best one Sherwin Williams carries.I'm > going to cover my wings and tail before they get any oil and such > hopefully. I'm not happy flying them just with Polyspray over the > long haul.I am planning on trying to use foam brush and roller. I'm > looking for experience to guide me with how much to thin? I have > some flow control agent. and if necessary a gallon of bug juice- > windshield washer fluid. but the guy at the store says all it takes > is a few ounces of the floetrol type stuff. (it's a different brand > but he says it's just as good) I know I'll need to re-calculate the > W&B afterward but I can deal with that.if any of you went through > the finish with roller and foam brush and wouldn't mind I'd sure > like to hear about your results.Raymond > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.comt; http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >


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    Time: 03:17:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: latex bonding to fabric
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    I'll bet it does. I'm not looking for a super slick wet look. I got semi-gloss. if it will just lay down smooth I'll be happy. I have already got it in Stitts through Poly-spray and flying it some. always did plan to do a finish coat on the wings and tail.the fuse is Red now. but will do a cream-white flying surfaces.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337948#337948


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    Time: 04:01:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another rib question
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Mark, I am a new guy, like you , and am just getting started on my ribs. I have chosen the Riblett 613.5 airfoil. My apologies to all of the traditionalists, but I think that Lowell Frank and others have done a good job of convincing me to go with a Riblett airfoil. The original wing ribs did not have the brace behind the main spar and the additional vertical brace in front of the rear spar, but it seems that a lot of people have introduced them to the design as an improvement. Once you add the bracing/cables, it makes for a good design addition. I have added it, and you might consider doing so as well. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337952#337952


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    Time: 06:43:59 PM PST US
    From: gliderx5@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: latex bonding to fabric


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    Time: 07:24:27 PM PST US
    From: gliderx5@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: latex bonding to fabric
    Sorry about the large email before. I tried to attach a picture (79k) but I guess I don't know how. Malcolm Morrison ----- Original Message ----- From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:11:13 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: latex bonding to fabric I picked up some Latex today- best one Sherwin Williams carries.I'm going to cover my wings and tail before they get any oil and such hopefully. I'm not happy flying them just with Polyspray over the long haul.I am planning on trying to use foam brush and roller. I'm looking for experience to guide me with how much to thin? I have some flow control agent. and if necessary a gallon of bug juice- windshield washer fluid. but the guy at the store says all it takes is a few ounces of the floetrol type stuff. (it's a different brand but he says it's just as good) I know I'll need to re-calculate the W&B afterward but I can deal with that.if any of you went through the finish with roller and foam brush and wouldn't mind I'd sure like to hear about your results.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337943#337943


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    Time: 09:00:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: PHL May 2-6
    From: Matthew VanDervort <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>
    John, I saved your nuber in my phone, and will give you a call when I get out there and figure out my shcedule! my schedule will be pretty crazy, but I will do my best to clear an evening! My cell is 513-668-2103 it wont be on until at least this wednesday, my old i phone died, but a new one on the way! Jim, any reccomendations on how to properly pester? I am all ears!! On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Amsafetyc@gmail.com <amsafetyc@gmail.com>wrote: > Iam in town and would welcome a visit > > John Recine > > 215 208 8309 <2152088309> > > *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless* > > > -----Original message----- > > *From: *Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>* > To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com > * > Sent: *Sat, Apr 23, 2011 13:32:44 GMT+00:00* > Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: PHL May 2-6 > > > It would just be wrong to be in the Philly area and NOT go pester > Recine..... > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: VanDy > >Sent: Apr 22, 2011 11:34 PM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Pietenpol-List: PHL May 2-6 > > > > > >I will be in Philly May 2nd thru the 6th, just found out. I will have a > rental car and be available most evenings, or can make myself available in > the evening, anybody wanna talk pietenpols?? :) > > > >-------- > >www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there! > > > >almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cable > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337878#337878 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >




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