Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 05/04/11


Total Messages Posted: 32



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:19 AM - Re: axle fairing thought (GliderMike)
     2. 02:42 AM - Re: Re: Standard fuselage/corvair motor (james theissen)
     3. 03:34 AM - progress photos (Douwe Blumberg)
     4. 06:39 AM - Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
     5. 07:01 AM - Re: progress photos (Michael Perez)
     6. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: Nice Piet People (Dick N)
     7. 08:40 AM - Douwe's progress (fair warning - large images) (Dan Yocum)
     8. 08:47 AM - one more Douwe's progress (Dan Yocum)
     9. 08:47 AM - more Douwe's progress (Dan Yocum)
    10. 09:39 AM - Re: aluminum lower strut fitting (bender)
    11. 10:01 AM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in (K5YAC)
    12. 10:11 AM - Re: axle fairing thought (Billy McCaskill)
    13. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol Corventure (Barry Davis)
    14. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: Nice Piet People (shad bell)
    15. 11:51 AM - Re: Centerburg Pietenpol fly-in, camp out (Don Emch)
    16. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Centerburg Pietenpol fly-in, camp out (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
    17. 12:52 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (Rick Holland)
    18. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol Corventure (Rick Holland)
    19. 01:00 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Rick Holland)
    20. 01:25 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (TOM STINEMETZE)
    21. 02:14 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Ryan Mueller)
    22. 02:18 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (Ryan Mueller)
    23. 03:01 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    24. 03:16 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (shad bell)
    25. 03:27 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Rick Holland)
    26. 03:38 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (Ryan Mueller)
    27. 03:53 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Ryan Mueller)
    28. 04:20 PM - Douwe's Progress (helspersew@aol.com)
    29. 04:26 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (Bill Church)
    30. 05:24 PM - Re: Douwe's progress  (helspersew@aol.com)
    31. 06:50 PM - Re: Re: Nice Piet People (Clif Dawson)
    32. 08:02 PM - Re: Douwe's Progress (Michael Groah)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:19:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: axle fairing thought
    From: "GliderMike" <glidermikeg@yahoo.com>
    I don't think it would work well as pitch control, since it would so close to the CG. I would think it would add some lift, if it is parallel to the wing. The amount of added lift, would vary depending on the amount of power the engine is developing, as it would be directly in the prop blast. My 2 cents worth. do not archive -------- HOMEBUILDER Will WORK for Spruce Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338852#338852


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    Time: 02:42:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Standard fuselage/corvair motor
    From: james theissen <heavyliftpilot@gmail.com>
    Thanks for all the input guys! This site has been a great help! james On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote: > > Well Said Dave > I have nothing to add to that, except that Jon Goldenbaum at Stits Poly > Fiber is going to donate 90' of fabric that will be offered seperatly. > Dick N. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:38 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Standard fuselage/corvair motor > > >> <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com> >> >> One of the salient points to take away from W. Wynne's analyses is that >> moving the wing will allow almost any engine/fuselage combination to meet >> the c/g requirements. I would think that the (slightly) lighter steel >> fuselage and a standard Corvair engine mount would put the c/g well withing >> the adjustment range of the cabanes. >> >> If you're looking for a BIG head start on a Pietenpol, Dick Navrotil, Skip >> Gadd, myself, and others built a long fuselage and a set of tail feathers at >> Sun N Fun N Tornados this spring. It will be sold at Brodhead this summer >> to raise money for the Brodhead EAA chapter. Dick has it up in Minn. It'll >> come with a bunch of the fittings as well --control horns, tail feather >> attach fittings, drag/antidrag wire fittings. Dick Navrotil and Doc Mosher >> were working out the details of the marketing plan so they'd be the guys to >> contact if you're interested. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338818#338818 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 03:34:40 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: progress photos
    I've never been able to post photos, so I forwarded some progress photos, including some of the axle fairing, to Dan Yocum figuring he had both feet firmly planted in the 21st century. (Dan, if you can't post photos either would you forward them to someone who can?) I'll be gone for the next few days. Take care, Douwe


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    Time: 06:39:46 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol
    in Colorado I couldn't help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Rick Holl and's Corvair-powered Pietenpol video. (thank you Bill Church for the working link) If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen, Rick's engine actually has the sound of a P-51 Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range. Magnificent Rick. Rick's cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking without c lutter or complexity and your workmanship looks nothing short of impeccable ! And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt Rick ? Nice. If you've never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he's a very unassuming type who won't brag about the fact that he's an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional accomplishment s, yet he's been building for many years now and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background-keeping at it, slo wly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling, and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he'll get his Airworthiness Cer tificate and start the second game of the double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful new P ietenpol. Stuff like this is why I haven't dropped off the list. Way cool. Mike C. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0


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    Time: 07:01:43 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: progress photos
    looking forward to seeing the progress pics. Douwe. I can post photos...as well as re-size them...if needed. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com Do not archive


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    Time: 08:34:52 AM PST US
    From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Nice Piet People
    Shad I have set of Muk tuc plans but I dont know how to transfer them to e mail, I could bring them to Brodhead or make a copy for you. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: shad bell To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Piet People Kevin, I can't get caught up either, I have had the cowling off the piet in anticipation of starting the annual cond insp for 3 weeks now, not started yet. Been raining here almost every single day since late march. I have windows to replace, fix wife's car, honey-do list, etc etc, and Dad has been busy with his new buisness, after retiring last year. We'll get'er done one of these days. Shad p.s. anyone have float plans for a piet, if it doesn't quit raining here I am gonna need them --- On Tue, 5/3/11, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote: From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Piet People To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 9:49 AM <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> To Shad - workin' it, Boss! Got my first free weekend this weekend since October - five months in AZ followed by 1 month of moving-into-the-new-house-hell. Shelley says she's releasing me back into the wild:). do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338746#338746 r?Pietenpol-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenbsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - &nbstp://www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.c============ ======


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    Time: 08:40:08 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Douwe's progress (fair warning - large images)
    I just got an email from Douwe this morning with some pictures of his progress with the explicit instructions to post the images to the list. Here they are. As always, his work looks great. I'm really excited to see his finished cowling, but I really like what I'm seeing. Enjoy! Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 08:47:13 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: one more Douwe's progress
    -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 08:47:30 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: more Douwe's progress
    -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 09:39:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: aluminum lower strut fitting
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    I have some 3/16 rivets that have a shear rating of 1400 lbs.. with three on each side of each strut plus the bolt thru all three pieces it looks like it would be ok.... don't want to screw this up jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338881#338881


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    Time: 10:01:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol
    in
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Awesome Rick! I just sent my engine off to Roy's Garage last week. Can't wait to get it running, but I've got a ways to go before I'm ready for it. I really like that MGL Engine Management System. That is the first time I've seen one in operation... what do you think if it? Any quirks, or does it work as advertised? Your project is looking great! -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338887#338887


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    Time: 10:11:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: axle fairing thought
    From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
    I suppose that the amount of lift provided by the axle fairing also depends on whether the Pietenpol FC-10, Riblett 612, or Riblett 613.5 airfoil is used... :D definitely do not archive! -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338889#338889


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    Time: 10:49:07 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Corventure
    Great job, Rick I remember the day we cranked the Vair up for the first time. I kinda scares you a little to see that amount of power coming from that small package. Good job, keep building. I'm still in envy of the view from your back porch. When I flew near Castle Rock a while back, I thought about my visit to your house several years ago. Barry D NX973BP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Corventure --> <billspiet@sympatico.ca> The link didn't work for me either. So I just did a search on youtube using the last eleven characters (Vm0QsmN0Ey0) of the link. That worked. Here's a new link that should take you there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0 Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338816#338816


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    Time: 10:54:43 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Nice Piet People
    What-is a -muk-tuk? - Shad Shad I have set of Muk tuc plans but I dont know how to transfer them to e mail, - I could bring them to Brodhead or make a copy for you. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: shad bell Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Piet People Kevin, I can't get caught up either, I have had the cowling off the piet in anticipation of starting the annual cond insp for 3 weeks now, not started yet.- Been raining here almost every single day since late march.- I h ave windows to replace, fix wife's car, -honey-do list, etc etc, and Dad has been busy with his new buisness, after retiring last year.- We'll get 'er done one of these days. - Shad - p.s.- anyone have float plans for a piet, if it doesn't quit raining here I am gonna need them --- On Tue, 5/3/11, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote: From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Piet People il> To Shad - workin' it, Boss!- Got my first free weekend this weekend since October - five months in AZ followed by 1 month of moving-into-the-new-hou se-hell.- Shelley says she's releasing me back into the wild:). do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338746#338746 r?Pietenpol-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pieten bsp; - - - - ---- MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - - - - - - - - - - - &nbstp://www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blan k>http://www.matronics.c================= = href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 11:51:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Centerburg Pietenpol fly-in, camp out
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Hey Shad... Sorry I've been a little distant. I've been so busy lately I haven't had much time to check this! I would like to try to make it but it's a little tough for me to commit to it right now. We may be on vacation then. If we aren't I would like to make it. If I do I'll try really hard to have the Rudolph/Pavliga Piet in tow! It really would be a great time! P.S. Keep working on that Cuy guy! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338896#338896


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    Time: 12:17:18 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Re: Centerburg Pietenpol fly-in, camp out
    If there's a tailwind coming and going I'll be there too Don :) Kidding. We'll see how life is going that weekend and as always, I never can confirm if I'm going to a fly-in or not until the morning of intended departure, no matter what the forecast might be. Keep working on Frankie Pavliga Don. Wouldn't it be great if we had SIX Piets there for Shad and Gary Bell like we did for the Taylorcraft Fly-in in Alliance, OH last summer ?? Mike C.


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    Time: 12:52:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: one more Douwe's progress
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    All I can say is Wow, I hope I get to see the finished product in person some day. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote: > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 12:53:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Corventure
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Thanks Berry, just need some paint on the wings and the 5th bearing now. rick On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Barry Davis <bed@mindspring.com> wrote: > > Great job, Rick > > I remember the day we cranked the Vair up for the first time. I kinda > scares > you a little to see that amount of power coming from that small package. > Good job, keep building. I'm still in envy of the view from your back > porch. > When I flew near Castle Rock a while back, I thought about my visit to your > house several years ago. > > Barry D > NX973BP > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill > Church > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:10 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Corventure > > --> <billspiet@sympatico.ca> > > The link didn't work for me either. So I just did a search on youtube using > the last eleven characters (Vm0QsmN0Ey0) of the link. > That worked. > Here's a new link that should take you there. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0 > > Bill C. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338816#338816 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 01:00:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol
    in Colorado
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Thanks for the kind words Mikey, and yes fortunately my taste in choosing aircraft colors is superior to my taste in clothing. 9th inning 3-2 count, here comes the pitch with just wing paint and a 5th bearing to go. rick On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: > > I couldn=92t help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Rick > Holland=92s Corvair-powered Pietenpol > video. (thank you Bill Church for the working link) > > If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen, Rick =92s > engine actually has the sound of a P-51 > Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range. Magnificent Rick. > > Rick=92s cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking witho ut > clutter or complexity and your workmanship > looks nothing short of impeccable ! > > And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt Rick > ? Nice. > > If you=92ve never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he=92s a very unassumin g type > who won=92t brag about the fact that he=92s > an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional > accomplishments, yet he=92s been building for many years now > and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background=97keeping at it, > slowly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling, > and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he=92ll get his Airworthiness > Certificate and start the second game of the > double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful new > Pietenpol. > > Stuff like this is why I haven=92t dropped off the list. Way cool. > > Mike C. > > *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0*<http://www.youtube.com/wat ch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0> > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 01:25:12 PM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: one more Douwe's progress
    Oooo! Love that grill! Stinemetze do not archive >>> Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> 5/4/2011 10:41 AM >>> -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 02:14:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol
    in Colorado
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Yeah....Mikee was selling you pretty hard (and rightfully so, on the character).....and I looked at the pic and thought "nice shot in front of a Mustang, hey there's Mikee and Rick". And scroll down and.....oh.....had to the do the white-guy-socks-with-sandals, didn't ya. :-P do not archive On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the kind words Mikey, and yes fortunately my taste in choosing > aircraft colors is superior to my taste in clothing. 9th inning 3-2 count , > here comes the pitch with just wing paint and a 5th bearing to go. > > rick > > > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE > CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: > >> >> I couldn=92t help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Rick >> Holland=92s Corvair-powered Pietenpol >> video. (thank you Bill Church for the working link) >> >> If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen, >> Rick=92s engine actually has the sound of a P-51 >> Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range. Magnificent Rick. >> >> Rick=92s cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking with out >> clutter or complexity and your workmanship >> looks nothing short of impeccable ! >> >> And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt Rick >> ? Nice. >> >> If you=92ve never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he=92s a very unassumi ng >> type who won=92t brag about the fact that he=92s >> an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional >> accomplishments, yet he=92s been building for many years now >> and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background=97keeping at it , >> slowly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling, >> and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he=92ll get his Airworthines s >> Certificate and start the second game of the >> double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful ne w >> Pietenpol. >> >> Stuff like this is why I haven=92t dropped off the list. Way cool. >> >> Mike C. >> >> *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0*<http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > NX6819Z > > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > >


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    Time: 02:18:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: one more Douwe's progress
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    That is the most awesome Pietenpol cowling ever! Mein gott! On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote: > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." >


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    Time: 03:01:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: one more Douwe's progress
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    UnlhbiwNCg0KSSBhZ3JlZSwgYnV0IEkgdGhpbmsgeW91J3ZlIGJlZW4gc3BlbmRpbmcgdG9vIG11 Y2ggdGltZSBvbiB0aGUgRmxpdHplciBzaXRlIQ0KDQpHYXJ5DQpEbyBub3QgYXJjaGl2ZQ0KU2Vu dCBvbiB0aGUgU3ByaW50riBOb3cgTmV0d29yayBmcm9tIG15IEJsYWNrQmVycnmuDQoNCi0tLS0t T3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9tOiBSeWFuIE11ZWxsZXIgPHJtdWVsbGVyMjNAZ21h aWwuY29tPg0KU2VuZGVyOiBvd25lci1waWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdC1zZXJ2ZXJAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNv bQ0KRGF0ZTogV2VkLCA0IE1heSAyMDExIDE2OjEzOjAxIA0KVG86IDxwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBt YXRyb25pY3MuY29tPg0KUmVwbHktVG86IHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb21TdWJq ZWN0OiBSZTogUGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3Q6IG9uZSBtb3JlIERvdXdlJ3MgcHJvZ3Jlc3MNCg0KVGhh dCBpcyB0aGUgbW9zdCBhd2Vzb21lIFBpZXRlbnBvbCBjb3dsaW5nIGV2ZXIhICBNZWluIGdvdHQh DQoNCk9uIFdlZCwgTWF5IDQsIDIwMTEgYXQgMTA6NDEgQU0sIERhbiBZb2N1bSA8eW9jdW1AZm5h bC5nb3Y+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQo+DQo+IC0tDQo+IERhbiBZb2N1bQ0KPiBGZXJtaWxhYiAgNjMwLjg0 MC42NTA5DQo+IHlvY3VtQGZuYWwuZ292LCBodHRwOi8vZmVybWlncmlkLmZuYWwuZ292DQo+ICJJ IGZseSBiZWNhdXNlIGl0IHJlbGVhc2VzIG15IG1pbmQgZnJvbSB0aGUgdHlyYW5ueSBvZiBwZXR0 eSB0aGluZ3MuIg0KPg0KDQo


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    Time: 03:16:14 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol
    in Colorado


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    Time: 03:27:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol
    in Colorado
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Told you that I have no taste with it comes to clothing. do not archive On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah....Mikee was selling you pretty hard (and rightfully so, on the > character).....and I looked at the pic and thought "nice shot in front of a > Mustang, hey there's Mikee and Rick". And scroll down and.....oh.....had to > the do the white-guy-socks-with-sandals, didn't ya. :-P > > do not archive > > > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for the kind words Mikey, and yes fortunately my taste in choosin g >> aircraft colors is superior to my taste in clothing. 9th inning 3-2 coun t, >> here comes the pitch with just wing paint and a 5th bearing to go. >> >> rick >> >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPAC E >> CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: >> >>> >>> I couldn=92t help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Ric k >>> Holland=92s Corvair-powered Pietenpol >>> video. (thank you Bill Church for the working link) >>> >>> If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen, >>> Rick=92s engine actually has the sound of a P-51 >>> Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range. Magnificent Rick. >>> >>> Rick=92s cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking wit hout >>> clutter or complexity and your workmanship >>> looks nothing short of impeccable ! >>> >>> And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt Ric k >>> ? Nice. >>> >>> If you=92ve never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he=92s a very unassum ing >>> type who won=92t brag about the fact that he=92s >>> an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional >>> accomplishments, yet he=92s been building for many years now >>> and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background=97keeping at i t, >>> slowly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling, >>> and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he=92ll get his Airworthine ss >>> Certificate and start the second game of the >>> double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful n ew >>> Pietenpol. >>> >>> Stuff like this is why I haven=92t dropped off the list. Way cool. >>> >>> Mike C. >>> >>> *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0*<http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Rick Holland >> Castle Rock, Colorado >> NX6819Z >> >> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" >> >> > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 03:38:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: one more Douwe's progress
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Well.....I may have worn my pith helmet recently......and put on a pair of jodhpurs.....and have acquired the ability to thread a 140 through a 50 foot ceiling with a foreigner in tow...... But let's not hate, eh? ;) do not archive On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:55 PM, <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > Ryan, > > I agree, but I think you've been spending too much time on the Flitzer > site! > > Gary > Do not archive > > Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE > ------------------------------ > *From: * Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> > *Sender: * owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > *Date: *Wed, 4 May 2011 16:13:01 -0500 > *To: *<pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > *ReplyTo: * pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: one more Douwe's progress > > That is the most awesome Pietenpol cowling ever! -Mein gott! > > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Dan Yocum > <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote: > > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab -630.840.6509 > > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.= gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things.&q > uot; > > > * > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D > * > >


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    Time: 03:53:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol
    in Colorado
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Well, it makes sense. You come down from the mountains and breathe that thick Wisconsin air...... Thankfully your taste in airplanes and engines more than makes up for that. :-P do not archive On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote: > Told you that I have no taste with it comes to clothing. > > do not archive > > > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote : > >> Yeah....Mikee was selling you pretty hard (and rightfully so, on the >> character).....and I looked at the pic and thought "nice shot in front o f a >> Mustang, hey there's Mikee and Rick". And scroll down and.....oh.....had to >> the do the white-guy-socks-with-sandals, didn't ya. :-P >> >> do not archive >> >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the kind words Mikey, and yes fortunately my taste in choosi ng >>> aircraft colors is superior to my taste in clothing. 9th inning 3-2 cou nt, >>> here comes the pitch with just wing paint and a 5th bearing to go. >>> >>> rick >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPA CE >>> CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I couldn=92t help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Ri ck >>>> Holland=92s Corvair-powered Pietenpol >>>> video. (thank you Bill Church for the working link) >>>> >>>> If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen, >>>> Rick=92s engine actually has the sound of a P-51 >>>> Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range. Magnificent Rick. >>>> >>>> Rick=92s cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking >>>> without clutter or complexity and your workmanship >>>> looks nothing short of impeccable ! >>>> >>>> And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt >>>> Rick ? Nice. >>>> >>>> If you=92ve never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he=92s a very unassu ming >>>> type who won=92t brag about the fact that he=92s >>>> an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional >>>> accomplishments, yet he=92s been building for many years now >>>> and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background=97keeping at it, >>>> slowly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling, >>>> and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he=92ll get his Airworthin ess >>>> Certificate and start the second game of the >>>> double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful >>>> new Pietenpol. >>>> >>>> Stuff like this is why I haven=92t dropped off the list. Way cool. >>>> >>>> Mike C. >>>> >>>> *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0*<http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rick Holland >>> Castle Rock, Colorado >>> NX6819Z >>> >>> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > NX6819Z > > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > >


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    Time: 04:20:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Douwe's Progress
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Wow!! Douwe, this airplane is surely in a class by itself, artistically speaking. I don't think I have ever seen a homebuilt with this type of high-class ar twork and attention to detail. I REALLY like the anti-rotation axle gizmo-m ethod you have devised!! I am sure it will work. Are you related to Rube Go ldberg? White tires......very cool. We are going to have to create a whole new parking row for you at Brodhead. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN


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    Time: 04:26:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: one more Douwe's progress
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Well, it looks as though the dreary prospect of rebuilding his Piet has really taken its toll on Douwe's creativity and enthusiasm. Just kidding. WOW! That is a wild Art Deco cowling design you've come up with. And white tires. Where do you get this stuff? Really eager to see how this one turns out. Hopefully the completion date isn't connected to the "hood ornament" (when pigs fly). Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338930#338930


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    Time: 05:24:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Douwe's progress
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Hey Douwe, What is the purpose of the extra washer-like plate that is lined-up with th e rear spreader bar (under the nuts)? Dan Helsper Puryear, TN.


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    Time: 06:50:33 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Nice Piet People
    http://www.ultralightfloats.com/Float_plans.htm Clif What is a muk-tuk? Shad Shad I have set of Muk tuc plans but I dont know how to transfer them to e mail, I could bring them to Brodhead or make a copy for you. Dick ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 05/04/11


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    Time: 08:02:08 PM PST US
    From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Douwe's Progress
    Hey guys. Somehow I didn't receive the pics of douwe's plane. Can someone f orward them to me? Thank you so much. Mike Groah Do not archive. Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > Wow!! > > Douwe, this airplane is surely in a class by itself, artistically speaking . I don't think I have ever seen a homebuilt with this type of high-class ar twork and attention to detail. I REALLY like the anti-rotation axle gizmo-me thod you have devised!! I am sure it will work. Are you related to Rube Gold berg? White tires......very cool. > > We are going to have to create a whole new parking row for you at Brodhead . > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >




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