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     1. 12:19 AM - Re: axle fairing thought (GliderMike)
     2. 02:42 AM - Re: Re: Standard fuselage/corvair motor (james theissen)
     3. 03:34 AM - progress photos (Douwe Blumberg)
     4. 06:39 AM - Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
     5. 07:01 AM - Re: progress photos (Michael Perez)
     6. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: Nice Piet People (Dick N)
     7. 08:40 AM - Douwe's progress (fair warning - large images) (Dan Yocum)
     8. 08:47 AM - one more Douwe's progress (Dan Yocum)
     9. 08:47 AM - more Douwe's progress (Dan Yocum)
    10. 09:39 AM - Re: aluminum lower strut fitting (bender)
    11. 10:01 AM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in (K5YAC)
    12. 10:11 AM - Re: axle fairing thought (Billy McCaskill)
    13. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol Corventure (Barry Davis)
    14. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: Nice Piet People (shad bell)
    15. 11:51 AM - Re: Centerburg Pietenpol fly-in, camp out (Don Emch)
    16. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Centerburg Pietenpol fly-in, camp out (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
    17. 12:52 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (Rick Holland)
    18. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol Corventure (Rick Holland)
    19. 01:00 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Rick Holland)
    20. 01:25 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (TOM STINEMETZE)
    21. 02:14 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Ryan Mueller)
    22. 02:18 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (Ryan Mueller)
    23. 03:01 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    24. 03:16 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (shad bell)
    25. 03:27 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Rick Holland)
    26. 03:38 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (Ryan Mueller)
    27. 03:53 PM - Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol in Colorado (Ryan Mueller)
    28. 04:20 PM - Douwe's Progress (helspersew@aol.com)
    29. 04:26 PM - Re: one more Douwe's progress (Bill Church)
    30. 05:24 PM - Re: Douwe's progress  (helspersew@aol.com)
    31. 06:50 PM - Re: Re: Nice Piet People (Clif Dawson)
    32. 08:02 PM - Re: Douwe's Progress (Michael Groah)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: axle fairing thought | 
      
      
      I don't think it would work well as pitch control, since it would so close to the
      CG. I would think it would add some lift, if it is parallel to the wing.  The
      amount of added lift, would vary depending on the amount of power the engine
      is developing, as it would be directly in the prop blast.  My 2 cents worth.
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      HOMEBUILDER
      Will WORK for Spruce
      Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
      GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338852#338852
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Standard fuselage/corvair motor | 
      
      
      Thanks for all the input guys!  This site has been a great help!  james
      
      On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
      >
      > Well Said Dave
      > I have nothing to add to that, except that Jon Goldenbaum at Stits Poly
      > Fiber is going to donate 90' of fabric that will be offered seperatly.
      > Dick N.
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:38 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Standard fuselage/corvair motor
      >
      >
      >> <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
      >>
      >> One of the salient points to take away from W. Wynne's analyses is that
      >> moving the wing will allow almost any engine/fuselage combination to meet
      >> the c/g requirements. I would think that the (slightly) lighter steel
      >> fuselage and a standard Corvair engine mount would put the c/g well withing
      >> the adjustment range of the cabanes.
      >>
      >> If you're looking for a BIG head start on a Pietenpol, Dick Navrotil, Skip
      >> Gadd, myself, and others built a long fuselage and a set of tail feathers at
      >> Sun N Fun N Tornados this spring. It will be sold at Brodhead this summer
      >> to raise money for the Brodhead EAA chapter. Dick has it up in Minn. It'll
      >> come with a bunch of the fittings as well --control horns, tail feather
      >> attach fittings, drag/antidrag wire fittings. Dick Navrotil and Doc Mosher
      >> were working out the details of the marketing plan so they'd be the guys to
      >> contact if you're interested.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >>
      >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338818#338818
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      I've never been able to post photos, so I forwarded some progress photos,
      including some of the axle fairing, to Dan Yocum figuring he had both feet
      firmly planted in the 21st century. (Dan, if you can't post photos either
      would you forward them to someone who can?)
      
      
      I'll be gone for the next few days.
      
      
      Take care,
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol | 
      in  Colorado
      
      
      I couldn't help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Rick Holl
      and's Corvair-powered Pietenpol
      video.  (thank you Bill Church for the working link)
      
      If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen,  Rick's
       engine actually has the sound of a P-51
      Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range.   Magnificent Rick.
      
      Rick's cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking without c
      lutter or complexity and your workmanship
      looks nothing short of impeccable !
      
      And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt Rick  ?
         Nice.
      
      If you've never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he's a very unassuming type
       who won't brag about the fact that he's
      an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional accomplishment
      s, yet he's been building for many years now
      and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background-keeping at it, slo
      wly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling,
      and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he'll get his Airworthiness Cer
      tificate and start the second game of the
      double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful new P
      ietenpol.
      
      Stuff like this is why I haven't dropped off the list.   Way cool.
      
      Mike C.
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: progress photos | 
      
      looking forward to seeing the progress pics. Douwe. I can post photos...as well
      as re-size them...if needed.
      
      Michael Perez
      
      Karetaker Aero
      
      www.karetakeraero.com
      Do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Nice Piet People | 
      
      Shad
      I have set of Muk tuc plans but I dont know how to transfer them to e 
      mail,  I could bring them to Brodhead or make a copy for you.
      Dick
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: shad bell 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:39 AM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Piet People
      
      
              Kevin, I can't get caught up either, I have had the cowling off 
      the piet in anticipation of starting the annual cond insp for 3 weeks 
      now, not started yet.  Been raining here almost every single day since 
      late march.  I have windows to replace, fix wife's car,  honey-do list, 
      etc etc, and Dad has been busy with his new buisness, after retiring 
      last year.  We'll get'er done one of these days.
      
              Shad
      
              p.s.  anyone have float plans for a piet, if it doesn't quit 
      raining here I am gonna need them
      
              --- On Tue, 5/3/11, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 
      wrote:
      
      
                From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
                Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Piet People
                To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
                Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 9:49 AM
      
      
      <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      
                To Shad - workin' it, Boss!  Got my first free weekend this 
      weekend since October - five months in AZ followed by 1 month of 
      moving-into-the-new-house-hell.  Shelley says she's releasing me back 
      into the wild:).
      
                do not archive
      
                --------
                Kevin "Axel" Purtee
                NX899KP
                Austin/Georgetown, TX
      
      
                Read this topic online here:
      
                http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338746#338746
      
      
                r?Pietenpol-List" 
      target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenbsp;            
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| Subject:  | Douwe's progress (fair warning - large images) | 
      
      I just got an email from Douwe this morning with some pictures of his 
      progress with the explicit instructions to post the images to the list. 
        Here they are.
      
      As always, his work looks great.  I'm really excited to see his finished 
      cowling, but I really like what I'm seeing.
      
      Enjoy!
      Dan
      
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
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| Subject:  | one more Douwe's progress | 
      
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
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| Subject:  | more Douwe's progress | 
      
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
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| Subject:  | Re: aluminum lower strut fitting | 
      
      
      I have some 3/16 rivets that have a shear rating of 1400 lbs..
      with three on each side of each strut plus the bolt thru all three pieces
      it looks like it would be ok.... don't want to screw this up 
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338881#338881
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding Pietenpol | 
      in
      
      
      Awesome Rick!  I just sent my engine off to Roy's Garage last week.  Can't wait
      to get it running, but I've got a ways to go before I'm ready for it.  
      
      I really like that MGL Engine Management System.  That is the first time I've seen
      one in operation... what do you think if it?  Any quirks, or does it work
      as advertised?  
      
      Your project is looking great!
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338887#338887
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: axle fairing thought | 
      
      
      I suppose that the amount of lift provided by the axle fairing also depends on
      whether the Pietenpol FC-10, Riblett 612, or Riblett 613.5 airfoil is used...
       :D  
      
      
      definitely do not archive!
      
      --------
      Billy McCaskill
      Urbana, IL
      tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338889#338889
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Pietenpol Corventure | 
      
      
      Great job, Rick
      
      I remember the day we cranked the Vair up for the first time. I kinda scares
      you a little to see that amount of power coming from that small package.
      Good job, keep building. I'm still in envy of the view from your back porch.
      When I flew near Castle Rock a while back, I thought about my visit to your
      house several years ago.
      
      Barry D
      NX973BP
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
      Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:10 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Corventure
      
      --> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
      
      The link didn't work for me either. So I just did a search on youtube using
      the last eleven characters (Vm0QsmN0Ey0) of the link.
      That worked.
      Here's a new link that should take you there.
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0
      
      Bill C.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338816#338816
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Nice Piet People | 
      
      What-is a -muk-tuk?
      -
      Shad
      
      
      Shad
      I have set of Muk tuc plans but I dont know how to transfer them to e mail,
      - I could bring them to Brodhead or make a copy for you.
      Dick
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: shad bell 
      Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:39 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Piet People
      
      
      Kevin, I can't get caught up either, I have had the cowling off the piet in
       anticipation of starting the annual cond insp for 3 weeks now, not started
       yet.- Been raining here almost every single day since late march.- I h
      ave windows to replace, fix wife's car, -honey-do list, etc etc, and Dad 
      has been busy with his new buisness, after retiring last year.- We'll get
      'er done one of these days.
      -
      Shad
      -
      p.s.- anyone have float plans for a piet, if it doesn't quit raining here
       I am gonna need them
      
      --- On Tue, 5/3/11, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote:
      
      
      From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Piet People
      
      
      il>
      
      To Shad - workin' it, Boss!- Got my first free weekend this weekend since
       October - five months in AZ followed by 1 month of moving-into-the-new-hou
      se-hell.- Shelley says she's releasing me back into the wild:).
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/Georgetown, TX
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338746#338746
      
      
      r?Pietenpol-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pieten
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      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro
      nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject:  | Re: Centerburg Pietenpol fly-in, camp out | 
      
      
      Hey Shad...
      
      Sorry I've been a little distant.  I've been so busy lately I haven't had much
      time to check this!  I would like to try to make it but it's a little tough for
      me to commit to it right now.  We may be on vacation then.  If we aren't I would
      like to make it.  If I do I'll try really hard to have the Rudolph/Pavliga
      Piet in tow!  It really would be a great time!
      
      P.S.  Keep working on that Cuy guy!
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338896#338896
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Centerburg Pietenpol fly-in, camp out | 
      
      
      If there's a tailwind coming and going I'll be there too
      Don :)  
      
      Kidding.   We'll see how life is going that weekend and as always, I never can
      confirm if I'm 
      going to a fly-in or not until the morning of intended departure, no matter what
      the
      forecast might be. 
      
      Keep working on Frankie Pavliga Don.   
      
      Wouldn't it be great if we had SIX Piets there for Shad and Gary Bell like we did
      for the Taylorcraft
      Fly-in in Alliance, OH last summer ??
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: one more Douwe's progress | 
      
      All I can say is Wow, I hope I get to see the finished product in person
      some day.
      
      On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
      
      >
      > --
      > Dan Yocum
      > Fermilab  630.840.6509
      > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      NX6819Z
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Pietenpol Corventure | 
      
      Thanks Berry, just need some paint on the wings and the 5th bearing now.
      
      rick
      
      On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Barry Davis <bed@mindspring.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > Great job, Rick
      >
      > I remember the day we cranked the Vair up for the first time. I kinda
      > scares
      > you a little to see that amount of power coming from that small package.
      > Good job, keep building. I'm still in envy of the view from your back
      > porch.
      > When I flew near Castle Rock a while back, I thought about my visit to your
      > house several years ago.
      >
      > Barry D
      > NX973BP
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
      > Church
      > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:10 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Corventure
      >
      > --> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
      >
      > The link didn't work for me either. So I just did a search on youtube using
      > the last eleven characters (Vm0QsmN0Ey0) of the link.
      > That worked.
      > Here's a new link that should take you there.
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0
      >
      > Bill C.
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338816#338816
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      NX6819Z
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding  Pietenpol | 
      in Colorado
      
      Thanks for the kind words Mikey, and yes fortunately my taste in choosing
      aircraft colors is superior to my taste in clothing. 9th inning 3-2 count,
      here comes the pitch with just wing paint and a 5th bearing to go.
      
      rick
      
      On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE
      CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
      
      >
      > I couldn=92t help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Rick
      > Holland=92s Corvair-powered Pietenpol
      > video.  (thank you Bill Church for the working link)
      >
      > If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen,  Rick
      =92s
      > engine actually has the sound of a P-51
      > Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range.   Magnificent Rick.
      >
      > Rick=92s cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking witho
      ut
      > clutter or complexity and your workmanship
      > looks nothing short of impeccable !
      >
      > And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt Rick
      > ?   Nice.
      >
      > If you=92ve never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he=92s a very unassumin
      g type
      > who won=92t brag about the fact that he=92s
      > an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional
      > accomplishments, yet he=92s been building for many years now
      > and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background=97keeping at it,
      > slowly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling,
      > and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he=92ll get his Airworthiness
      > Certificate and start the second game of the
      > double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful new
      > Pietenpol.
      >
      > Stuff like this is why I haven=92t dropped off the list.   Way cool.
      >
      > Mike C.
      >
      > *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0*<http://www.youtube.com/wat
      ch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0>
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      NX6819Z
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Re: one more Douwe's progress | 
      
      Oooo!  Love that grill!
      
      Stinemetze
      do not archive
      
      
      >>> Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> 5/4/2011 10:41 AM >>>
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding  Pietenpol | 
      in Colorado
      
      Yeah....Mikee was selling you pretty hard (and rightfully so, on the
      character).....and I looked at the pic and thought "nice shot in front of a
      Mustang, hey there's Mikee and Rick". And scroll down and.....oh.....had to
      the do the white-guy-socks-with-sandals, didn't ya.    :-P
      
      do not archive
      
      On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Thanks for the kind words Mikey, and yes fortunately my taste in choosing
      > aircraft colors is superior to my taste in clothing. 9th inning 3-2 count
      ,
      > here comes the pitch with just wing paint and a 5th bearing to go.
      >
      > rick
      >
      >
      > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE
      > CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
      >
      >>
      >> I couldn=92t help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Rick
      >> Holland=92s Corvair-powered Pietenpol
      >> video.  (thank you Bill Church for the working link)
      >>
      >> If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen,
      >> Rick=92s engine actually has the sound of a P-51
      >> Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range.   Magnificent Rick.
      >>
      >> Rick=92s cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking with
      out
      >> clutter or complexity and your workmanship
      >> looks nothing short of impeccable !
      >>
      >> And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt Rick
      >> ?   Nice.
      >>
      >> If you=92ve never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he=92s a very unassumi
      ng
      >> type who won=92t brag about the fact that he=92s
      >> an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional
      >> accomplishments, yet he=92s been building for many years now
      >> and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background=97keeping at it
      ,
      >> slowly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling,
      >> and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he=92ll get his Airworthines
      s
      >> Certificate and start the second game of the
      >> double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful ne
      w
      >> Pietenpol.
      >>
      >> Stuff like this is why I haven=92t dropped off the list.   Way cool.
      >>
      >> Mike C.
      >>
      >> *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0*<http://www.youtube.com/wa
      tch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > --
      > Rick Holland
      > Castle Rock, Colorado
      > NX6819Z
      >
      > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: one more Douwe's progress | 
      
      That is the most awesome Pietenpol cowling ever!  Mein gott!
      
      On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
      
      >
      > --
      > Dan Yocum
      > Fermilab  630.840.6509
      > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: one more Douwe's progress | 
      
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      eSB0aGluZ3MuIg0KPg0KDQo
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding  Pietenpol | 
      in Colorado
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding  Pietenpol | 
      in Colorado
      
      Told you that I have no taste with it comes to clothing.
      
      do not archive
      
      On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Yeah....Mikee was selling you pretty hard (and rightfully so, on the
      > character).....and I looked at the pic and thought "nice shot in front of
       a
      > Mustang, hey there's Mikee and Rick". And scroll down and.....oh.....had 
      to
      > the do the white-guy-socks-with-sandals, didn't ya.    :-P
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
      >
      >> Thanks for the kind words Mikey, and yes fortunately my taste in choosin
      g
      >> aircraft colors is superior to my taste in clothing. 9th inning 3-2 coun
      t,
      >> here comes the pitch with just wing paint and a 5th bearing to go.
      >>
      >> rick
      >>
      >>
      >> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPAC
      E
      >> CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
      >>
      >>>
      >>> I couldn=92t help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Ric
      k
      >>> Holland=92s Corvair-powered Pietenpol
      >>> video.  (thank you Bill Church for the working link)
      >>>
      >>> If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen,
      >>> Rick=92s engine actually has the sound of a P-51
      >>> Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range.   Magnificent Rick.
      >>>
      >>> Rick=92s cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking wit
      hout
      >>> clutter or complexity and your workmanship
      >>> looks nothing short of impeccable !
      >>>
      >>> And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt Ric
      k
      >>> ?   Nice.
      >>>
      >>> If you=92ve never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he=92s a very unassum
      ing
      >>> type who won=92t brag about the fact that he=92s
      >>> an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional
      >>> accomplishments, yet he=92s been building for many years now
      >>> and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background=97keeping at i
      t,
      >>> slowly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling,
      >>> and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he=92ll get his Airworthine
      ss
      >>> Certificate and start the second game of the
      >>> double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful n
      ew
      >>> Pietenpol.
      >>>
      >>> Stuff like this is why I haven=92t dropped off the list.   Way cool.
      >>>
      >>> Mike C.
      >>>
      >>> *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0*<http://www.youtube.com/w
      atch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> --
      >> Rick Holland
      >> Castle Rock, Colorado
      >> NX6819Z
      >>
      >> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      >>
      >>
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      NX6819Z
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Re: one more Douwe's progress | 
      
      Well.....I may have worn my pith helmet recently......and put on a pair
      of jodhpurs.....and have acquired the ability to thread a 140 through a 50
      foot ceiling with a foreigner in tow......
      
      But let's not hate, eh?   ;)
      
      do not archive
      
      On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:55 PM, <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      > Ryan,
      >
      > I agree, but I think you've been spending too much time on the Flitzer
      > site!
      >
      > Gary
      > Do not archive
      >
      > Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE
      > ------------------------------
      > *From: * Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
      > *Sender: * owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > *Date: *Wed, 4 May 2011 16:13:01 -0500
      > *To: *<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > *ReplyTo: * pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: one more Douwe's progress
      >
      > That is the most awesome Pietenpol cowling ever! -Mein gott!
      >
      > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Dan Yocum
      > <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
      >
      >
      > --
      > Dan Yocum
      > Fermilab -630.840.6509
      >
      > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.= gov
      > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things.&q
      > uot;
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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      =3D
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      =3D
      =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
      =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
      =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
      =3D
      > *
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rick Holland's outstanding looking and sounding  Pietenpol | 
      in Colorado
      
      Well, it makes sense. You come down from the mountains and breathe that
      thick Wisconsin air......
      
      Thankfully your taste in airplanes and engines more than makes up for that.
        :-P
      
      do not archive
      
      On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Told you that I have no taste with it comes to clothing.
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote
      :
      >
      >> Yeah....Mikee was selling you pretty hard (and rightfully so, on the
      >> character).....and I looked at the pic and thought "nice shot in front o
      f a
      >> Mustang, hey there's Mikee and Rick". And scroll down and.....oh.....had
       to
      >> the do the white-guy-socks-with-sandals, didn't ya.    :-P
      >>
      >> do not archive
      >>
      >>
      >> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
      >>
      >>> Thanks for the kind words Mikey, and yes fortunately my taste in choosi
      ng
      >>> aircraft colors is superior to my taste in clothing. 9th inning 3-2 cou
      nt,
      >>> here comes the pitch with just wing paint and a 5th bearing to go.
      >>>
      >>> rick
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPA
      CE
      >>> CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
      >>>
      >>>>
      >>>> I couldn=92t help but smile when watching this outstanding video of Ri
      ck
      >>>> Holland=92s Corvair-powered Pietenpol
      >>>> video.  (thank you Bill Church for the working link)
      >>>>
      >>>> If you close your eyes after engine start and let your mind listen,
      >>>> Rick=92s engine actually has the sound of a P-51
      >>>> Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the lower RPM range.   Magnificent Rick.
      >>>>
      >>>> Rick=92s cockpit and instrument panels are incredibly clean looking
      >>>> without clutter or complexity and your workmanship
      >>>> looks nothing short of impeccable !
      >>>>
      >>>> And did I notice you wearing a color-coordinated long sleeved shirt
      >>>> Rick  ?   Nice.
      >>>>
      >>>> If you=92ve never met Rick at Brodhead or Oshkosh he=92s a very unassu
      ming
      >>>> type who won=92t brag about the fact that he=92s
      >>>> an FAA Certified Flight Instructor or about his professional
      >>>> accomplishments, yet he=92s been building for many years now
      >>>> and attending Brodhead for a long time in the background=97keeping at 
      it,
      >>>> slowly but surely fabricating, learning, assembling,
      >>>> and reaching for the bottom of the 9th when he=92ll get his Airworthin
      ess
      >>>> Certificate and start the second game of the
      >>>> double header as starting pitcher when he starts flying his beautiful
      >>>> new Pietenpol.
      >>>>
      >>>> Stuff like this is why I haven=92t dropped off the list.   Way cool.
      >>>>
      >>>> Mike C.
      >>>>
      >>>> *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0*<http://www.youtube.com/
      watch?v=Vm0QsmN0Ey0>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> --
      >>> Rick Holland
      >>> Castle Rock, Colorado
      >>> NX6819Z
      >>>
      >>> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >
      >
      > --
      > Rick Holland
      > Castle Rock, Colorado
      > NX6819Z
      >
      > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Douwe's Progress | 
      
      
      Wow!!
      
      Douwe, this airplane is surely in a class by itself, artistically speaking.
       I don't think I have ever seen a homebuilt with this type of high-class ar
      twork and attention to detail. I REALLY like the anti-rotation axle gizmo-m
      ethod you have devised!! I am sure it will work. Are you related to Rube Go
      ldberg? White tires......very cool.
      
      We are going to have to create a whole new parking row for you at Brodhead.
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: one more Douwe's progress | 
      
      
      Well, it looks as though the dreary prospect of rebuilding his Piet has really
      taken its toll on Douwe's creativity and enthusiasm.
      
      Just kidding.
      WOW! That is a wild Art Deco cowling design you've come up with.
      And white tires. Where do you get this stuff?
      Really eager to see how this one turns out.
      Hopefully the completion date isn't connected to the "hood ornament" (when pigs
      fly).
      
      Bill C.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338930#338930
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Douwe's progress  | 
      
      
      Hey Douwe,
      
      What is the purpose of the extra washer-like plate that is lined-up with th
      e rear spreader bar (under the nuts)?
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Nice Piet People | 
      
      http://www.ultralightfloats.com/Float_plans.htm
      
      Clif
              What is a  muk-tuk?
      
              Shad
      
      
                Shad
                I have set of Muk tuc plans but I dont know how to transfer 
      them to e mail,  I could bring them to Brodhead or make a copy for you.
                Dick
             
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Douwe's Progress | 
      
      Hey guys.  Somehow I didn't receive the pics of douwe's plane.  Can someone f
      orward them to me?   Thank you so much.
      
      Mike Groah
      
      
      Do not archive. 
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
      
      > Wow!!
      >  
      > Douwe, this airplane is surely in a class by itself, artistically speaking
      . I don't think I have ever seen a homebuilt with this type of high-class ar
      twork and attention to detail. I REALLY like the anti-rotation axle gizmo-me
      thod you have devised!! I am sure it will work. Are you related to Rube Gold
      berg? White tires......very cool.
      >  
      > We are going to have to create a whole new parking row for you at Brodhead
      .
      >  
      > Dan Helsper
      > Puryear, TN
      > 
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