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1. 02:34 AM - Re: controls (Jack)
2. 02:42 AM - Re: Firewall progress... (Jack)
3. 02:57 AM - Re: Done (Jack)
4. 04:28 AM - Re: controls (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 04:34 AM - Re: Done (helspersew@aol.com)
6. 05:49 AM - flying time again (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 06:06 AM - Re: flying time again (Jack Phillips)
8. 06:25 AM - Axle Travel Stops/Strap (Michael Perez)
9. 06:30 AM - Re: Done (Rick Holland)
10. 07:40 AM - Re: Axle Travel Stops/Strap (helspersew@aol.com)
11. 09:04 AM - Re: controls (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
12. 09:55 AM - Re: controls (bender)
13. 10:30 AM - Re: controls (K5YAC)
14. 11:42 AM - Re: controls (bender)
15. 11:44 AM - Re: controls (Bill Church)
16. 11:47 AM - Re: Sterling's Piet project for sale in Texas (Ozarkflyer)
17. 12:07 PM - Re: Re: controls (gboothe5@comcast.net)
18. 12:08 PM - Re: Done (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
19. 12:17 PM - Re: controls (K5YAC)
20. 12:29 PM - Re: controls (bender)
21. 12:33 PM - Re: controls (TOM STINEMETZE)
22. 12:56 PM - Not exactly Piet Related - Beaumont Hotel (K5YAC)
23. 01:11 PM - Re: Done (Jim Courtney)
24. 01:19 PM - Re: Not exactly Piet Related - Beaumont Hotel (Bill Church)
25. 01:29 PM - Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
26. 01:51 PM - Re: Not exactly Piet Related - Beaumont Hotel (K5YAC)
27. 06:16 PM - Re: Re: controls (Jack)
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Looks good Jeff, I think I see two pulleys and I assume you will fit with a
cable guard. I'm doing the rudder cable routing now which can go many
different ways.
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: controls
hey guys... i feel like i've seen a few pictures of plane with pulleys just
behind the drivers seat... is this pretty normal ??
i was playing with my controls today and came up with this...
jeff
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| Subject: | Firewall progress... |
Beautiful Jake, a show winner in the making!
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Firewall progress...
Howdy List,
Over the past several weeks, it felt like I was not making much direct
progress on my Pietenpol - direct progress that is because for the past
three Saturdays I was in a class on "vintage radial aircraft engines." It
was taught through a local community college and the Historic Flight
Foundation (That's a museum North of Seattle where they fly all their
vintage planes - amazing place.) Because I had not been as familiar with the
differences between the radial and other aircraft engines as I would have
liked - and because I am mounting a Rotec radial on my Piet - this class
came along at just the right time. It felt, however, like I was not working
on the plane for weeks at a time. But I really WAS working on the plane - by
working on my knowledge of my powerplant...!
Anyway, back to the forum topic.... A couple days ago I got the firewall
back from a metal-forming specialist who formed the flanges on my
stainless-steel firewall (thanks Danny - Creative Billet.) I burnished the
panel myself prior to him forming it but I didn't have a heavy-duty
shrinker/stretcher (or the experience) to form the flanges - so I hired out
that operation.
Now I can keep movin' on - funnn stufff..............
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Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Congratulations Dave!
Be safe...
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dangerous
Dave
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Done
Howdy,she's done.Will be inspected on the 17th and in the air shortly
therafter.Highspeed taxi tests have been great,runs like a top.Can't
wait!dave
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Rick- same on mine. Lower pulley barely moves.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: controls
Looks good, one pulley is enough, I did 2 and the lower cable pulley barely
gets enough friction to move.
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:46 PM, bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> wrote:
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hey guys... i feel like i've seen a few pictures of plane with pulleys just
behind the drivers seat... is this pretty normal ??
i was playing with my controls today and came up with this...
jeff
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Wow Dave, she's beautiful. It took me 10 years to be abe to utter those two
words. You should be very proud.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | flying time again |
Jack;
I concur with your interpretation of the regs regarding minimum
safe altitude over water but what I want to know is, if you were
maintaining 500 ft. above the boat full of young ladies, how
were you able to tell (from that altitude) that they were pretty?
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Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
San Antonio, TX (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)
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| Subject: | flying time again |
Good question, Oscar. The simple fact is, I could only surmise that from
their general shapes - I couldn't see faces. Nor could I tell if they were
wearing swimsuits or not. When flying that low I generally have my hands
full with the airplane and can't spend too much time sightseeing.
When I was 17, I used to like to fly my Dad's J-3 over the women's dorm of
one of the colleges in town on the first warm day of spring. The women's
dorm was the tallest building around, and the girls liked to go sunbathing
"au natural" on the roof. I would approach the dorm at low altitude and
then cut the throttle and glide over the dorm and watch them scamper for
cover. Little did they know that I couldn't really take the time to look.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:47 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying time again
Jack;
I concur with your interpretation of the regs regarding minimum
safe altitude over water but what I want to know is, if you were
maintaining 500 ft. above the boat full of young ladies, how
were you able to tell (from that altitude) that they were pretty?
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Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
San Antonio, TX (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)
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| Subject: | Axle Travel Stops/Strap |
My plan was to have bolts and large washers threaded up into the bottoms of the
anti-rotation tubes on my straight axle gear to serve as travel stops. I wonder
if they would hold up if a bungee broke? I see most use some type of safety
strap/cable...will either method work, or do I need the cable/strap?
Thanks.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Beautiful Dave.
rick
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Dangerous Dave <dsornbor@aol.com> wrote:
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> Howdy,she's done.Will be inspected on the 17th and in the air shortly
> therafter.Highspeed taxi tests have been great,runs like a top.Can't
> wait!dave
>
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| Subject: | Re: Axle Travel Stops/Strap |
I have both.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 8:25 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Axle Travel Stops/Strap
My plan was to have bolts and large washers threaded up into the bottoms of
the anti-rotation tubes on my straight axle gear to serve as travel stops.
I wonder if they would hold up if a bungee broke? I see most use some type
of safety strap/cable...will either method work, or do I need the cable/st
rap?
Thanks.
Michael Perez
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Can I ask what size of pully you are using?
KMHeide
--- On Tue, 5/10/11, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: controls
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 4:31 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
>
> Looks good Jeff, I think I see two pulleys and I assume you
> will fit with a
> cable guard. I'm doing the rudder cable routing now
> which can go many
> different ways.
> Jack
> DSM
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]
> On Behalf Of bender
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:47 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: controls
>
>
> hey guys... i feel like i've seen a few pictures of plane
> with pulleys just
> behind the drivers seat... is this pretty normal ??
> i was playing with my controls today and came up with
> this...
>
> jeff
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all but the two behind the seat are 2 inch... the ones behind the seat are 3 inches...
just because had them around
workin on the rudder bar today.. tryin not to bleed on stuff too much. i hate when
the drill press grabs
jeff
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I'm trying to understand what is going on here (see photo)... I can see that there
is a deflection because the line doesn't remain straight, and I understand
that you are pointing out that there is limited friction involved with the bottom
cable, but is this cable routed below the fuse cross member or is there some
kind of rub block mounted to the other side of the pulley? I know that it
must be contacting something, just not sure how you are doing this.
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the elevator cables from the rear control stick torque to the bellcrank won't clear
the bottom seat crossmember so i added those two pulley to keep the cables
off of that crossmember..quite a deflection from the upper cable.... not so
much from the lower
jeff
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Mark,
If you look closely, you'll see that there are two pulleys there, side by side.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Sterling's Piet project for sale in Texas |
Email address please.
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Be safe, Jeff! I'm guiltier than most...must use clamps and hold-downs...
Gary
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Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: controls
Sent: May 10, 2011 9:52 AM
all but the two behind the seat are 2 inch... the ones behind the seat are 3 inches...
just because had them around
workin on the rudder bar today.. tryin not to bleed on stuff too much. i hate when
the drill press grabs
jeff
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Wow Dave,
She's beautiful and what a work of art, if she fly's half as good as she
looks you be stuck suffering from that menacing problem the that afflicts
only a select few of the airplane builders in the county, "perpetual smile
disorder".
Best of luck and enjoy!
John
In a message dated 5/9/2011 8:28:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dsornbor@aol.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor@aol.com>
Howdy,she's done.Will be inspected on the 17th and in the air shortly
therafter.Highspeed taxi tests have been great,runs like a top.Can't wait!dave
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Alright, that makes more sense. Where is the "like" button?
Bill Church wrote:
> Mark,
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> If you look closely, you'll see that there are two pulleys there, side by side.
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> Bill C.
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thanks Gary
didn't slow me down much
my biggest concern was that i have a gig playing bass friday night with this new
band.... they can't replace me that quick if i lost a finger
jeff
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'Em dang drill presses'l bang your fingers a whole lot more than jus'
bloody. (As will several of our other fun tools.) Fortunately there are
a lot of solutions available. I'm not pushing Harbour Freight but here is
a page full of possibly useful - and not too expensive - hold down
devices.
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=vice
Stinemetze
>>> "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> 5/10/2011 11:52 AM >>>
all but the two behind the seat are 2 inch... the ones behind the seat are
3 inches... just because had them around
workin on the rudder bar today.. tryin not to bleed on stuff too much. i
hate when the drill press grabs
jeff
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| Subject: | Not exactly Piet Related - Beaumont Hotel |
This should be of interest for those right here in the heartland, but may also
be of interest to anyone looking for a nice stop over that may be flying over
these parts. There is a place called Beaumont Hotel in Beaumont, Kansas (about
60 miles east of Wichita) that is home to a really neat hotel and cafe, which
is adorned with airplane and motorcycle photos, models and memorabilia. I've
heard about this place for years, but only recently got to check it out. A
friend let me ride along last Saturday as he was going to meet a couple of friends
for breakfast. We landed in a mowed pasture and taxied into town on a paved
county road. Once in town, we stopped at the main intersection and proceeded
on to a grass airplane parking area. Yeah, a really neat place that obviously
makes an effort to accomodate aviators and motorcyclists. Our trip was just
for breakfast, which was excellent. I ould recommend the Pilot Special...
two eggs, two strips of bacon, two pancakes, a big sausage pattie and biscuits
and gravy. Oh yeah... good eats.
There are also several historical sights to see that are within walking distance,
one of which is the oldest wooden water tower still in use that was originally
used to fill steam engines in the late 1800s.
Here is a link to their page... if you are within a reasonable distance, you ought
to check this place out. If you are passing through, you might consider the
Beaumont as a stopover place that is away from busy municipal airports and
does not require a vehicle to get around.
The Beaumont Hotel
Sitting area
Cafe
Dining room
Convenient aircraft parking
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Congratulations!!!!
________________________________
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 8:27:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Done
Beautiful Dave.
rick
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Dangerous Dave <dsornbor@aol.com> wrote:
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>Howdy,she's done.Will be inspected on the 17th and in the air shortly
>therafter.Highspeed taxi tests have been great,runs like a top.Can't wait!dave
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| Subject: | Re: Not exactly Piet Related - Beaumont Hotel |
I was wondering why this all looked so familiar - then it dawned on me - this place
is featured in Chuck Gantzer's video.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Dave's Pietenpol Airworthiness Inspection on the 17th |
CONGRATULATIONS Dave ! May I ask how your weight and balance worked out
? Sounds like you're having a blast
doing high speed taxi runs.
Have you been able to keep current or get current in a tailwheel airplane r
ecently ? I was fortunate enough to have a friend
who let me fly his J-3 Cub for several hours prior to my first flight in my
new Piet since while building we generally don't take much
time to go flying or like to spend the money on that when the project usual
ly takes our spare DI.
Last thing-try not to be lulled into the 'I gotta fly this thing now since
I just got it signed off' mode. I had to wait FIVE full days after
my sign off to make my first flight because of rainy, windy, turbulent cond
itions and trust me-I was NOT pleasant to be around during
those five days but I'm glad I sat it out. Too many things can happen on
that first flight so stack the cards in your favor and WAY to GO MAN !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Not exactly Piet Related - Beaumont Hotel |
Really? I'll have to pull that out and watch it again.
Bill Church wrote:
> I was wondering why this all looked so familiar - then it dawned on me - this
place is featured in Chuck Gantzer's video.
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> Bill C.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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That is the best thing about my mill, great ways to lock it down. Hope your
ok Jeff!
Jack
DSM
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 2:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: controls
'Em dang drill presses'l bang your fingers a whole lot more than jus'
bloody. (As will several of our other fun tools.) Fortunately there are a
lot of solutions available. I'm not pushing Harbour Freight but here is a
page full of possibly useful - and not too expensive - hold down devices.
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=vice
Stinemetze
>>> "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> 5/10/2011 11:52 AM >>>
all but the two behind the seat are 2 inch... the ones behind the seat are 3
inches... just because had them around
workin on the rudder bar today.. tryin not to bleed on stuff too much. i
hate when the drill press grabs
jeff
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