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1. 02:31 AM - Re: Inspection done,fly thursday weather permitting (carson)
2. 02:31 AM - Re: Inspection done,fly thursday weather permitting (carson)
3. 04:18 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage question (Jack Phillips)
4. 04:50 AM - Re: Brodhead (jarheadpilot82)
5. 04:58 AM - Re: Brodhead (John Hofmann)
6. 05:02 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead (John Hofmann)
7. 05:23 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead (Ryan Mueller)
8. 05:30 AM - Re: Brodhead (jarheadpilot82)
9. 05:40 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead (Jack Phillips)
10. 05:48 AM - Brodhead tips (Douwe Blumberg)
11. 06:16 AM - Re: Corvair engine rebuilding (TOM STINEMETZE)
12. 06:28 AM - Re: Airworthiness Inspection (Woodflier@aol.com)
13. 06:32 AM - Brodhead tips (Jack Phillips)
14. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: Airworthiness Inspection (Jack Phillips)
15. 06:50 AM - Re: Airworthiness inspection tomorrow (Bill Church)
16. 07:24 AM - Re: Brodhead (Bill Church)
17. 08:15 AM - Re: Where are all the so cali piets (AircamperN11MS)
18. 08:35 AM - Re: Where are all the so cali piets (AircamperN11MS)
19. 08:44 AM - Re: Re: Where are all the so cali piets (airlion)
20. 08:45 AM - Model "A" engine for sale (Chris Rusch)
21. 08:46 AM - Re: Brodhead tips (Dan Yocum)
22. 08:52 AM - Re: Fuselage question (Catdesigns)
23. 09:00 AM - project statuses [was: Re: Model "A" engine for sale] (Dan Yocum)
24. 09:07 AM - Re: Brodhead tips (gboothe5@comcast.net)
25. 09:23 AM - Re: Brodhead tips (John Hofmann)
26. 09:23 AM - project statuses [was: Re: Model "A" engine for sale] (Chris Rusch)
27. 09:51 AM - Re: Where are all the so cali piets (AircamperN11MS)
28. 10:12 AM - Re: Brodhead (K5YAC)
29. 10:19 AM - Re: Brodhead (K5YAC)
30. 10:29 AM - Re: Fuselage question (tdudley@umn.edu)
31. 10:54 AM - Re: Brodhead tips (Jim Boyer)
32. 10:59 AM - Re: Fuselage question (K5YAC)
33. 12:05 PM - Re: Brodhead tips (kevinpurtee)
34. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Where are all the so cali piets (Lyle Fast)
35. 12:53 PM - Re: Where are all the so cali piets (AircamperN11MS)
36. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage question (Jack Phillips)
37. 12:59 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead (Jack Phillips)
38. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: Where are all the so cali piets (Lyle Fast)
39. 01:43 PM - Re: Where are all the so cali piets (AircamperN11MS)
40. 01:49 PM - Re: Re: Where are all the so cali piets (Robert Gow)
41. 02:12 PM - Pink Slip... the good kind! (Woodflier@aol.com)
42. 02:23 PM - Re: Pink Slip... the good kind! (TOM STINEMETZE)
43. 02:24 PM - Re: Pink Slip... the good kind! (Jack Phillips)
44. 05:44 PM - Re: Pink Slip... the good kind! (Jerry Dotson)
45. 06:31 PM - Re: Corvair engine rebuilding (coxwelljon)
46. 06:39 PM - I can't find my Air Compressor (Jack Phillips)
47. 06:43 PM - corvair college (RBush96589@aol.com)
48. 07:52 PM - Re: I can't find my Air Compressor (Jim Markle)
49. 08:16 PM - Re: I can't find my Air Compressor (aerocarjake)
50. 08:46 PM - Re: Pink Slip... the good kind! (K5YAC)
51. 09:11 PM - Re: Fuselage question (tdudley@umn.edu)
52. 09:42 PM - Re: Pink Slip... the good kind! (aerocarjake)
53. 11:25 PM - Re: Plywood Order (Mark Roberts)
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection done,fly thursday weather permitting |
Well done Dave she is a bloody beauty
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection done,fly thursday weather permitting |
Well done Dave she is a bloody beauty
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage question |
So did you you cut the pieces first and then try to assemble the fuselage?
I think the better approach is to get the upper longerons (on the workbench)
to follow the prescribed curve, then cut the cross-pieces to fit, while
keeping everything in alignment and the uprights vertical, as shown below:
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
McCaskill
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:17 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage question
I'm certainly nowhere close to starting on my fuselage, but that doesn't
look correct to me either. But based on the many, many model planes I've
built using the same techniques, I'd say to ease the pressure off on the
clamp until the curve looks right, measure that distance and cut a new cross
piece to glue in there. I won't tell anyone that you deviated from the
plans if you don't... :)
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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What happens Saturday night?
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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Beware of these two characters when there.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 17, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Amsafetyc@gmail.com wrote:
> Dan always trys to bring a variety of beets a real crowd pleaser for
Dan!
> And a mighty fine adult beverage if served at the right temperature
>
> John
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> Do not archive
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> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
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> -----Original message-----
> From: jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 01:13:17 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
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> As the new guy on the internet block, I am looking at going to
Brodhead for the first time this year, and I am not sure what to do. I
am thinking that I will come in on Thursday and leave on Saturday. Where
do I stay? Can I camp? Food? Is scotch the only drink, or will I be
accepted with other forms of adult beverage? (Wink)
>
> How about a thread on tips and tricks for Brodhead? Thanks to all in
advance.
>
> BTW, wing rib jig is done- first rib to be done this week, hopefully
before I leave on my next trip.
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> Semper Fi,
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> Terry
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Laughter, revelry, a movie, popcorn, flying until sundown, pork chops,
steaks, a couple of cold ones, a bit of single malt, the telling of lies
and the spending of a last few hours with some of the best friends you
will ever meet and never get to spend enough time with.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 17, 2011, at 6:47 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote:
<jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
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Amen to that!
Ryan
Do not archive
Sent from my iPhone
On May 17, 2011, at 7:04 AM, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com> wrote:
Laughter, revelry, a movie, popcorn, flying until sundown, pork chops,
steaks, a couple of cold ones, a bit of single malt, the telling of lies and
the spending of a last few hours with some of the best friends you will ever
meet and never get to spend enough time with.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 17, 2011, at 6:47 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote:
jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
What happens Saturday night?
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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Sounds like fun! Can't wait!
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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Well said, John. But you forgot to mention the flatulence. One of my
personal favorite parts, along with the sundown "Hangar Walk".
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead
Laughter, revelry, a movie, popcorn, flying until sundown, pork chops,
steaks, a couple of cold ones, a bit of single malt, the telling of lies and
the spending of a last few hours with some of the best friends you will ever
meet and never get to spend enough time with.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 17, 2011, at 6:47 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote:
<jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
What happens Saturday night?
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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As mentioned, there is a variety of motels within striking distance if you
want a room. Rv's and campers are allowed by the road and around the
hangars and tents pretty much anywhere. Camping is allowed on the far side
of the closed runway by the trees, (I've been told it was for tents only,
though I'm seeing some campers recently) However, NO GENERATORS are allowed
there, though they seem to be acceptable around the hangars. Wherever you
end up, they ask for a small camping "donation" for which you get your
annual Brodhead pin to put on your tent or vehicle.
I THINK there's a dinner Friday and Sat evening and there's a breakfast some
mornings, but I'm not sure which. There are bathrooms and showers, but you
have to kind of time your spot as it gets pretty busy.
Sunday is usually just a day for leaving, so don't plan on doing anything.
Friday and Saturday seem to be the best days to be there, with most planes
arriving Thurs and Friday. Weather is always an issue so one is never
really sure who will show up or when.
There is an informal campfire most nights with people just hanging out, and
there is a legend of a movie night projected on the side of a hangar. I've
heard it's Friday and I've heard it's Saturday, and I've always wanted to
attend, but it seems to be a last minute, rather secretive event, so good
luck with that one.
There are few organized events, it's completely laid back. Sometimes we get
a "dawn patrol" of some of the more intrepid aviators and nice evenings
always produce a great flying lineup. IF the weather is good, planes just
come and go all day with rides being hopped by various friendly pilots. The
only organized events are the seminars held on Saturday, late morning,
through the afternoon. These are all given by volunteers and the topics
cover a multitude of subjects based on that person's expertise.
I've seen pretty much every beverage imaginable being consumed at Brodhead.
adult and otherwise.
Douwe
Ps. Congratulations on you guys who are done, you've accomplished a great
thing. Fly safe!!
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair engine rebuilding |
Jon:
This is a common problem that needs to be checked even with a brand new
set of matched pistons / cylinders. My new set had 5 perfectly good
cylinders with just minimum flash needing to be removed and 1 that had A
LOT of flash to be removed before clean air flow could be expected.
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "coxwelljon" <coxwelljon@frontiernet.net> 5/16/2011 11:26 PM >>>
My offending cylinder that showed signs of being hot had no air flow
through the head at all. I am working on mine now with a keyhole saw but
have a long way to go. I'll bet I have a half cup of alum shavings from
each head so far. If you don't know what to look for it is easy to miss
this.
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Inspection |
Jack, I'm planning on making Brodhead this year. I'll have 2 months to fly
40 hours.. what an ordeal....hehehe. Can't wait. Let's talk when we get
closer to the time. A buddy here who's helped me has a Chinook, which doesn't
fly much faster than a Piet, and he wants to go too.
Matt
Time: 09:20:49 AM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Airworthiness inspection tomorrow
Great news, Matt! Can you get the time flown off in time to bring it to
Brodhead this summer?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Here's an aerial photo of the field, with some of the main areas marked:
North (to Brodhead)
Pietenpol parking
Hangars
and Movie
Main Runway
09/27
Forums, Dinners, and Shower area
I'm getting psyched about it. After all, it is only 65 more days (just nine
weeks from Thursday) until we all meet again. Still haven't decided if I
will fly my Piet there this year, but my guess is, if the weather is good,
I'll fly it.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:45 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead tips
As mentioned, there is a variety of motels within striking distance if you
want a room. Rv's and campers are allowed by the road and around the
hangars and tents pretty much anywhere. Camping is allowed on the far side
of the closed runway by the trees, (I've been told it was for tents only,
though I'm seeing some campers recently) However, NO GENERATORS are allowed
there, though they seem to be acceptable around the hangars. Wherever you
end up, they ask for a small camping "donation" for which you get your
annual Brodhead pin to put on your tent or vehicle.
I THINK there's a dinner Friday and Sat evening and there's a breakfast some
mornings, but I'm not sure which. There are bathrooms and showers, but you
have to kind of time your spot as it gets pretty busy.
Sunday is usually just a day for leaving, so don't plan on doing anything.
Friday and Saturday seem to be the best days to be there, with most planes
arriving Thurs and Friday. Weather is always an issue so one is never
really sure who will show up or when.
There is an informal campfire most nights with people just hanging out, and
there is a legend of a movie night projected on the side of a hangar. I've
heard it's Friday and I've heard it's Saturday, and I've always wanted to
attend, but it seems to be a last minute, rather secretive event, so good
luck with that one.
There are few organized events, it's completely laid back. Sometimes we get
a "dawn patrol" of some of the more intrepid aviators and nice evenings
always produce a great flying lineup. IF the weather is good, planes just
come and go all day with rides being hopped by various friendly pilots. The
only organized events are the seminars held on Saturday, late morning,
through the afternoon. These are all given by volunteers and the topics
cover a multitude of subjects based on that person's expertise.
I've seen pretty much every beverage imaginable being consumed at Brodhead.
adult and otherwise.
Douwe
Ps. Congratulations on you guys who are done, you've accomplished a great
thing. Fly safe!!
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Inspection |
Why do you have a 40 hour fly-off? You've got a Continental. Do you have
an uncertificated prop?
Jack
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Woodflier@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:26 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Airworthiness Inspection
Jack, I'm planning on making Brodhead this year. I'll have 2 months to fly
40 hours.. what an ordeal....hehehe. Can't wait. Let's talk when we get
closer to the time. A buddy here who's helped me has a Chinook, which
doesn't fly much faster than a Piet, and he wants to go too.
Matt
Time: 09:20:49 AM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Airworthiness inspection tomorrow
Great news, Matt! Can you get the time flown off in time to bring it to
Brodhead this summer?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness inspection tomorrow |
This is great to hear that your plane will be taking to the skies, Matt. Like many
others, when I began researching into the possibility of building a Piet,
one of the inspiring sources of information was the four-part series of articles
that you wrote for AVweb.
Congratulations on finishing the construction process. Looking forward to hopefully
seeing your Piet fly in to Brodhead this summer (or maybe next).
Bill C.
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Yes Terry, if you can find it, you can bring some Wink.
> will I be accepted with other forms of adult beverage? (Wink)
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| Subject: | Re: Where are all the so cali piets |
Throw me an email. I have one just 1 hour north of LA. In fact I work in downtown
LA. Perhaps we can at least meet for lunch while you are here.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Where are all the so cali piets |
Opps, Here is my work email, scott.liefeld@lacity.org I am here from 5AM til 2:15PM.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Where are all the so cali piets |
Just curious--What are your performance figures for N11MS? empty wt and so
forth. Gardiner Mason
----- Original Message ----
From: AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 11:13:13 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
<Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
Throw me an email. I have one just 1 hour north of LA. In fact I work in
downtown LA. Perhaps we can at least meet for lunch while you are here.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Model "A" engine for sale |
Here is an Ford Model A engine i no longer need, i purchased it from a guy in Oshkosh
a few years back for a $1000 bucks. I never did anything with it and don't
know its history except the guy i bought it from says it came out of a pietenpol.
If your interested please email me......$1000 obo. Putting it up here
first, then barnstormers.
crusch(at)lakefield.net
Thanks
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead tips |
Please note the big yellow "X's" on the NW-SE and NE-SW runways. Those
are reserved for Kevin "Axel" Purtee.
I kid, I kid!
Dan
On 05/17/2011 08:29 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> Heres an aerial photo of the field, with some of the main areas marked:
>
> North (to Brodhead)
>
> Pietenpol parking
>
> Hangars
>
> and Movie
>
> Main Runway
>
> 09/27
>
> Forums, Dinners, and Shower area
>
> Im getting psyched about it. After all, it is only 65 more days (just
> nine weeks from Thursday) until we all meet again. Still havent decided
> if I will fly my Piet there this year, but my guess is, if the weather
> is good, Ill fly it.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP Icarus Plummet
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Douwe
> Blumberg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:45 AM
> *To:* pietenpolgroup
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Brodhead tips
>
> As mentioned, there is a variety of motels within striking distance if
> you want a room. Rvs and campers are allowed by the road and around the
> hangars and tents pretty much anywhere. Camping is allowed on the far
> side of the closed runway by the trees, (Ive been told it was for tents
> only, though Im seeing some campers recently) However, NO GENERATORS
> are allowed there, though they seem to be acceptable around the hangars.
> Wherever you end up, they ask for a small camping donation for which
> you get your annual Brodhead pin to put on your tent or vehicle.
>
> I THINK theres a dinner Friday and Sat evening and theres a breakfast
> some mornings, but Im not sure which. There are bathrooms and showers,
> but you have to kind of time your spot as it gets pretty busy.
>
> Sunday is usually just a day for leaving, so dont plan on doing
> anything. Friday and Saturday seem to be the best days to be there, with
> most planes arriving Thurs and Friday. Weather is always an issue so one
> is never really sure who will show up or when.
>
> There is an informal campfire most nights with people just hanging out,
> and there is a legend of a movie night projected on the side of a
> hangar. Ive heard its Friday and Ive heard its Saturday, and Ive
> always wanted to attend, but it seems to be a last minute, rather
> secretive event, so good luck with that one.
>
> There are few organized events, its completely laid back. Sometimes we
> get a dawn patrol of some of the more intrepid aviators and nice
> evenings always produce a great flying lineup. IF the weather is good,
> planes just come and go all day with rides being hopped by various
> friendly pilots. The only organized events are the seminars held on
> Saturday, late morning, through the afternoon. These are all given by
> volunteers and the topics cover a multitude of subjects based on that
> persons expertise.
>
> Ive seen pretty much every beverage imaginable being consumed at
> Brodhead adult and otherwise.
>
> Douwe
>
> Ps. Congratulations on you guys who are done, youve accomplished a
> great thing. Fly safe!!
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> **
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *http://forums.matronics.com*
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution*
>
> * *
>
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage question |
I measured my fuselage and I have a smooth curve with the dimensions close to those
shown on the plans. To get the smooth curve I needed to be +/- 1/4 inch
different then the plans dimensions. Like Jack said, just filled in the space
between the longerons after you pull the two sides together.
Chris
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Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Model "A" engine for sale] |
Speaking of your engines - how's the other one coming along? Mounted on
your Piet, yet? Will you bring it to Brodhead, this year?
How about Pappa Mike. What's the status of your project?
Dan H. - Is your engine back together?
As Jack said, only 65 more days.
Looks like I'll be there in N8031 unless someone comes out of the
woodwork to buy 'er before then. Then I'll bring the Hatz. And beets.
Dan
On 05/17/2011 10:42 AM, Chris Rusch wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Chris Rusch"<rmdinfo@lakefield.net>
>
> Here is an Ford Model A engine i no longer need, i purchased it from a guy in
Oshkosh a few years back for a $1000 bucks. I never did anything with it and
don't know its history except the guy i bought it from says it came out of a pietenpol.
If your interested please email me......$1000 obo. Putting it up here
first, then barnstormers.
>
> crusch(at)lakefield.net
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead tips |
Jarhead (and all first timers),
Be sure to watch and memorize lines from The Great Waldo Pepper. You do not want
to appear stupid or inconsequential by not inserting the proper quote at the
appropriate time in an otherwise seemingly meaningful conversation.
Gary
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
Please note the big yellow "X's" on the NW-SE and NE-SW runways. Those
are reserved for Kevin "Axel" Purtee.
I kid, I kid!
Dan
On 05/17/2011 08:29 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> Heres an aerial photo of the field, with some of the main areas marked:
>
> North (to Brodhead)
>
> Pietenpol parking
>
> Hangars
>
> and Movie
>
> Main Runway
>
> 09/27
>
> Forums, Dinners, and Shower area
>
> Im getting psyched about it. After all, it is only 65 more days (just
> nine weeks from Thursday) until we all meet again. Still havent decided
> if I will fly my Piet there this year, but my guess is, if the weather
> is good, Ill fly it.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP Icarus Plummet
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Douwe
> Blumberg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:45 AM
> *To:* pietenpolgroup
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Brodhead tips
>
> As mentioned, there is a variety of motels within striking distance if
> you want a room. Rvs and campers are allowed by the road and around the
> hangars and tents pretty much anywhere. Camping is allowed on the far
> side of the closed runway by the trees, (Ive been told it was for tents
> only, though Im seeing some campers recently) However, NO GENERATORS
> are allowed there, though they seem to be acceptable around the hangars.
> Wherever you end up, they ask for a small camping donation for which
> you get your annual Brodhead pin to put on your tent or vehicle.
>
> I THINK theres a dinner Friday and Sat evening and theres a breakfast
> some mornings, but Im not sure which. There are bathrooms and showers,
> but you have to kind of time your spot as it gets pretty busy.
>
> Sunday is usually just a day for leaving, so dont plan on doing
> anything. Friday and Saturday seem to be the best days to be there, with
> most planes arriving Thurs and Friday. Weather is always an issue so one
> is never really sure who will show up or when.
>
> There is an informal campfire most nights with people just hanging out,
> and there is a legend of a movie night projected on the side of a
> hangar. Ive heard its Friday and Ive heard its Saturday, and Ive
> always wanted to attend, but it seems to be a last minute, rather
> secretive event, so good luck with that one.
>
> There are few organized events, its completely laid back. Sometimes we
> get a dawn patrol of some of the more intrepid aviators and nice
> evenings always produce a great flying lineup. IF the weather is good,
> planes just come and go all day with rides being hopped by various
> friendly pilots. The only organized events are the seminars held on
> Saturday, late morning, through the afternoon. These are all given by
> volunteers and the topics cover a multitude of subjects based on that
> persons expertise.
>
> Ive seen pretty much every beverage imaginable being consumed at
> Brodhead adult and otherwise.
>
> Douwe
>
> Ps. Congratulations on you guys who are done, youve accomplished a
> great thing. Fly safe!!
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> **
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *http://forums.matronics.com*
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution*
>
> * *
>
--
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Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead tips |
Truer words were never said. I will be there to smack Kevin with a board
if needed.
A wise man once said "Smile son, never disconcert the masses."
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 17, 2011, at 11:04 AM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Jarhead (and all first timers),
>
> Be sure to watch and memorize lines from The Great Waldo Pepper. You
do not want to appear stupid or inconsequential by not inserting the
proper quote at the appropriate time in an otherwise seemingly
meaningful conversation.
>
> Gary
> Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:42:51
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Brodhead tips
>
>
> Please note the big yellow "X's" on the NW-SE and NE-SW runways.
Those
> are reserved for Kevin "Axel" Purtee.
>
> I kid, I kid!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On 05/17/2011 08:29 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>> Here=92s an aerial photo of the field, with some of the main areas
marked:
>>
>> North (to Brodhead)
>>
>> Pietenpol parking
>>
>> Hangars
>>
>> and Movie
>>
>> Main Runway
>>
>> 09/27
>>
>> Forums, Dinners, and Shower area
>>
>> I=92m getting psyched about it. After all, it is only 65 more days
(just
>> nine weeks from Thursday) until we all meet again. Still haven=92t
decided
>> if I will fly my Piet there this year, but my guess is, if the
weather
>> is good, I=92ll fly it.
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>>
>> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
>>
>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>>
>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
*Douwe
>> Blumberg
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:45 AM
>> *To:* pietenpolgroup
>> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Brodhead tips
>>
>> As mentioned, there is a variety of motels within striking distance
if
>> you want a room. Rv=92s and campers are allowed by the road and
around the
>> hangars and tents pretty much anywhere. Camping is allowed on the far
>> side of the closed runway by the trees, (I=92ve been told it was for
tents
>> only, though I=92m seeing some campers recently) However, NO
GENERATORS
>> are allowed there, though they seem to be acceptable around the
hangars.
>> Wherever you end up, they ask for a small camping =93donation=94 for
which
>> you get your annual Brodhead pin to put on your tent or vehicle.
>>
>> I THINK there=92s a dinner Friday and Sat evening and there=92s a
breakfast
>> some mornings, but I=92m not sure which. There are bathrooms and
showers,
>> but you have to kind of time your spot as it gets pretty busy.
>>
>> Sunday is usually just a day for leaving, so don=92t plan on doing
>> anything. Friday and Saturday seem to be the best days to be there,
with
>> most planes arriving Thurs and Friday. Weather is always an issue so
one
>> is never really sure who will show up or when.
>>
>> There is an informal campfire most nights with people just hanging
out,
>> and there is a legend of a movie night projected on the side of a
>> hangar. I=92ve heard it=92s Friday and I=92ve heard it=92s Saturday,
and I=92ve
>> always wanted to attend, but it seems to be a last minute, rather
>> secretive event, so good luck with that one.
>>
>> There are few organized events, it=92s completely laid back.
Sometimes we
>> get a =93dawn patrol=94 of some of the more intrepid aviators and
nice
>> evenings always produce a great flying lineup. IF the weather is
good,
>> planes just come and go all day with rides being hopped by various
>> friendly pilots. The only organized events are the seminars held on
>> Saturday, late morning, through the afternoon. These are all given by
>> volunteers and the topics cover a multitude of subjects based on that
>> person=92s expertise.
>>
>> I=92ve seen pretty much every beverage imaginable being consumed at
>> Brodhead=85 adult and otherwise.
>>
>> Douwe
>>
>> Ps. Congratulations on you guys who are done, you=92ve accomplished a
>> great thing. Fly safe!!
>>
>> * *
>>
>> * *
>>
>> **
>>
>> **
>>
>> **
>>
>> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
>>
>> **
>>
>> **
>>
>> *http://forums.matronics.com*
>>
>> **
>>
>> **
>>
>> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution*
>>
>> * *
>>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: project statuses [was: Re: Model "A" engine for sale] |
i am just getting back to the piet project, i have been converting my 65 chevelle
to a ls3 power plant and now thats done. The next step is to get the engine
mounted, hope to do that in the next couple of weeks.
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| Subject: | Re: Where are all the so cali piets |
Empty weight when new in 1972 was 600 lbs.
Empty weight after rebuild in 2001 was 670lbs.
Fuel burn at gross weight is between 5 GPH at 2300 RPM and 5.7 GPH at 2450 RPM
and above.
I flight plan for 70 MPH for any cross country flights but usually cruising speed
is 75-85 MPH. I averaged 70 MPH on my Brodhead trip in 1996. It also included
70 stops in about 13 states. I was gone 19 days. It would be fun to do again
sometime.
What else would you like to know?
BTW, the weight gain is due to these items:
Heavier tubes and tires
Better seats
Hand held radio
ELT
Whoa Stick, (johnson bar hand brake on side of fuse)
Tow hook for hand propping
More paint
10 lbs lead in nose for my fat butt.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Good one Jack!
This will be only my third trip to this great event, but my family and I have been
looking forward to it for some time. Camping on the field would be great,
but with a family (wife and 7 year old son), I've found that it is well worth
the money to get a hotel room. I'm not sure that they would be too excited about
our return if we had to endure the downpours and "artillery shots" that Jack
and others described last year. We heard them up close over in Rockford too,
but were staying safe and dry indoors. Yeah, we chickened out, but that weather
was really something last year, right? So, having said all that... a friend
recommend the Hampton Inn in Rockford, which is pretty nice and has a good
breakfast waiting first thing in the morning. Rockford is about 25 minutes
from Brodhead, but it's not too bad of a drive. Mostly rural, which is real
pretty up there. If you will have access to a car, consider Rockford... there
is plenty of good lodging, restaurants and other services.
I would like to add that the Friday night dinner has recently been a boiled fish
ball with boiled veges. Unless you really like fish, you'll probably want to
make other arrangements. On the other hand... Saturday's pork chop is pretty
good eats.
Finally, since this is your first trip... do not forget you camera and a note pad.
These are more important than your tooth brush. You will be sorry if you
don't come prepared to take notes, names, and lots of pictures.
The Hatz Biplane fly-in occurs on the same field, and there are several other old
timey and interesting aircraft to see. Be prepared to have a great time.
Looking forward to seeing everyone!
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> Well said, John. But you forgot to mention the flatulence. One of my personal
favorite parts, along with the sundown Hangar Walk.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP Icarus Plummet
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
--------
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Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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THAT'S what it is... the right TEMPERATURE! Now I see.
So, just to be clear... if the beets are the right temp (i.e. luke warm or warmer),
this guy (rhymes with John Recine) will pound them down all day long... but
if they are COLD, or better yet, ON ICE... weeeel, forget about it.
His favorites are mildly refrigerated Shiner or luke warm Corona with a lime.
Get this guy near an ice cold brew and he's not interested. Kind of like a Recine
repellent... hey, that gives me an idea!
Alright... kind of an inside joke, but John gets my drift. ;)
amsafetyc(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Dan always trys to bring a variety of beets a real crowd pleaser for Dan!
> And a mighty fine adult beverage if served at the right temperature
>
> John
>
> Do not archive
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage question |
Jack and Chris,
I didn't "jig" the fuselage for joining the two halves. What I did was draw a
centerline down the length of the table and got both halves of the fuselage standing
vertical. I joined the fore with the appropriate width strut so it measures
24". I continued from front to back by cutting and fitting individual struts
(one at a time, with centerlines themselves to match the fuse centerline
to know I was accurate and the fuselage was square). When I got to the tail-end,
the beveled edges joined at the centerline. From front to back everything
seems right on--all except the 11" station.
It has me a little stumped.
Most likely, even though I measured repeatedly, I probably made some mistake in
a measurement I haven't caught.
Regardless, maybe I should ask-- if I unclamp the 11" station and allow it to open
to its natural curve (knowing the ones fore and aft of it are correct), is
it okay to just measure this (again, about 12") and cut the spacer to fit? Anyone
see a problem with this if my re-measurement of dimensions doesn't turn
up a solution?
Thanks again.
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead tips |
Hi Jack,
I hope you do fly your Piet to Brodhead as it is a beauty and great to look at
for details on how to do things!
See you there.
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage question |
I'm with ya Tom... sounds like a reasonable approach as it doesn't look like it
would take much to straighten it out... BUT, are your longerons square at the
tail post? In other words, when joined together, are they 2" wide at the rear
or 1" as perscribed in the drawing? If they are still square (2" wide when
combined), you can taper the inside, which will straighten out your natural curve
a bit.
You say that you are building the long fuse, which is what I am building. I found
that a 7* angle cut (or sanded) 1/2" in at the rear works perfectly. Cutting
1/2" in makes for a combined 1" width at the tail post. As for the angles,
if you figure them from your rear most cross brace, you will see that the angle
at the tail post is 14*, or 7* off each longeron if you were to split the
triangle... for a combined angle (when joined together) of 14*.
I did my fuse the same way you are doing yours... I jigged the sides, but only
used a centerline and clamps to join the two. I don't think that I encountered
the problem that you are describing, but I can't honestly remember. I'll try
to remember to measure this evening.
tdudley@umn.edu wrote:
> Jack and Chris,
>
> I didn't "jig" the fuselage for joining the two halves. What I did was draw
a centerline down the length of the table and got both halves of the fuselage
standing vertical. I joined the fore with the appropriate width strut so it measures
24". I continued from front to back by cutting and fitting individual
struts (one at a time, with centerlines themselves to match the fuse centerline
to know I was accurate and the fuselage was square). When I got to the tail-end,
the beveled edges joined at the centerline. From front to back everything
seems right on--all except the 11" station.
>
> It has me a little stumped.
>
> Most likely, even though I measured repeatedly, I probably made some mistake
in a measurement I haven't caught.
>
> Regardless, maybe I should ask-- if I unclamp the 11" station and allow it to
open to its natural curve (knowing the ones fore and aft of it are correct),
is it okay to just measure this (again, about 12") and cut the spacer to fit?
Anyone see a problem with this if my re-measurement of dimensions doesn't turn
up a solution?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Tom
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do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Where are all the so cali piets |
Scott=2C
I have recently aquired a Pietenpol project with a C85-12. It has no prop
and I wondered what you use and any advice?
Thanks Lyle
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
> From: Scott.liefeld@lacity.org
> Date: Tue=2C 17 May 2011 09:48:43 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Empty weight when new in 1972 was 600 lbs.
> Empty weight after rebuild in 2001 was 670lbs.
> Fuel burn at gross weight is between 5 GPH at 2300 RPM and 5.7 GPH at 245
0 RPM and above.
> I flight plan for 70 MPH for any cross country flights but usually cruisi
ng speed is 75-85 MPH. I averaged 70 MPH on my Brodhead trip in 1996. It al
so included 70 stops in about 13 states. I was gone 19 days. It would be fu
n to do again sometime.
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> What else would you like to know?
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> BTW=2C the weight gain is due to these items:
> Heavier tubes and tires
> Better seats
> Hand held radio
> ELT
> Whoa Stick=2C (johnson bar hand brake on side of fuse)
> Tow hook for hand propping
> More paint
> 10 lbs lead in nose for my fat butt.
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Where are all the so cali piets |
Hi Lyle,
For 20 years I flew a Hegy 72x42. I broke it a couple of years ago. It was a
sad day. I then bought a Sterba, 72x42 but did not like its performance. I think
his props work better on fast planes with low drag. Ed Sterba is a stand
up guy. He re-pitched it for me but I still didn't like it. Long story short,
he offered to buy it back from me. I got lucky and found a Hegy 72x44. It
was good but I wanted more RPM since I fly in the Hot High Desert. Anyway, a
friend of mine changed the airfoil and flattened the pitch for me and now works
great. To get directly to your question, I would look for a climb prop due
to the high drag of the airframe. It's also better for hauling passengers.
I keep hearing great things about the Cloudcar Props. I even called him and almost
ordered one. Listening to the other guys on this site I believe that it
would be money well spent. They're also great to look at.
My two cents rubbed together.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage question |
As long as all the vertical uprights are perpendicular to the work surface,
and the centerline of the bottom longerons lines up with the cernterline of
the top longerons and everything is plumb and true, it doesn't matter.
Remember, building an airplane is largely a series of exercises in
alignment. As long as you are careful and keep things in alignment, the
plane will fly straight and true. If things are out of line, no matter what
you'll be flying a Chinese Cross Country (one wing low).
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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tdudley@umn.edu
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage question
Jack and Chris,
I didn't "jig" the fuselage for joining the two halves. What I did was draw
a centerline down the length of the table and got both halves of the
fuselage standing vertical. I joined the fore with the appropriate width
strut so it measures 24". I continued from front to back by cutting and
fitting individual struts (one at a time, with centerlines themselves to
match the fuse centerline to know I was accurate and the fuselage was
square). When I got to the tail-end, the beveled edges joined at the
centerline. From front to back everything seems right on--all except the
11" station.
It has me a little stumped.
Most likely, even though I measured repeatedly, I probably made some mistake
in a measurement I haven't caught.
Regardless, maybe I should ask-- if I unclamp the 11" station and allow it
to open to its natural curve (knowing the ones fore and aft of it are
correct), is it okay to just measure this (again, about 12") and cut the
spacer to fit? Anyone see a problem with this if my re-measurement of
dimensions doesn't turn up a solution?
Thanks again.
Tom
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Also, along with your notepad and camera, bring a tape measure.
If camping, bring your own soap and towel for the showers. You might want to bring
your own hot water, too. It seems to be in pretty short supply.
Jack
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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead
Good one Jack!
This will be only my third trip to this great event, but my family and I have been
looking forward to it for some time. Camping on the field would be great,
but with a family (wife and 7 year old son), I've found that it is well worth
the money to get a hotel room. I'm not sure that they would be too excited about
our return if we had to endure the downpours and "artillery shots" that Jack
and others described last year. We heard them up close over in Rockford too,
but were staying safe and dry indoors. Yeah, we chickened out, but that weather
was really something last year, right? So, having said all that... a friend
recommend the Hampton Inn in Rockford, which is pretty nice and has a good
breakfast waiting first thing in the morning. Rockford is about 25 minutes
from Brodhead, but it's not too bad of a drive. Mostly rural, which is real
pretty up there. If you will have access to a car, consider Rockford... there
is plenty of good lodging, restaurants and other se!
rvices.
I would like to add that the Friday night dinner has recently been a boiled fish
ball with boiled veges. Unless you really like fish, you'll probably want to
make other arrangements. On the other hand... Saturday's pork chop is pretty
good eats.
Finally, since this is your first trip... do not forget you camera and a note pad.
These are more important than your tooth brush. You will be sorry if you
don't come prepared to take notes, names, and lots of pictures.
The Hatz Biplane fly-in occurs on the same field, and there are several other old
timey and interesting aircraft to see. Be prepared to have a great time.
Looking forward to seeing everyone!
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> Well said, John. But you forgot to mention the flatulence. One of my personal
favorite parts, along with the sundown Hangar Walk.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP Icarus Plummet
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Where are all the so cali piets |
Great info thanks. I would love to fly the hot high desert...some day!
Lyle
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
> From: Scott.liefeld@lacity.org
> Date: Tue=2C 17 May 2011 12:50:50 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Hi Lyle=2C
>
> For 20 years I flew a Hegy 72x42. I broke it a couple of years ago. It wa
s a sad day. I then bought a Sterba=2C 72x42 but did not like its performan
ce. I think his props work better on fast planes with low drag. Ed Sterba i
s a stand up guy. He re-pitched it for me but I still didn't like it. Long
story short=2C he offered to buy it back from me. I got lucky and found a H
egy 72x44. It was good but I wanted more RPM since I fly in the Hot High De
sert. Anyway=2C a friend of mine changed the airfoil and flattened the pitc
h for me and now works great. To get directly to your question=2C I would l
ook for a climb prop due to the high drag of the airframe. It's also better
for hauling passengers. I keep hearing great things about the Cloudcar Pro
ps. I even called him and almost ordered one. Listening to the other guys o
n this site I believe that it would be money well spent. They're also great
to look at.
>
> My two cents rubbed together.
>
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Where are all the so cali piets |
Lyle,
I just noticed you are from Canada. I'll bet it can get cold there. It can get
a little cold at my place. The coldest I've flown mine in was 21 degrees F.
It was a 1 hour flight. I could hardly speak after I got out of the p[lane.
My jaw was frozen. Brrr.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Where are all the so cali piets |
Here in Midland it has been only one month since the icebreaker came in
and opened up the harbor. This time it was the US Coast Guard that came
in. So thanks to all our American friends!
Bob
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AircamperN11MS
Sent: May 17, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where are all the so cali piets
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Lyle,
I just noticed you are from Canada. I'll bet it can get cold there. It
can get a little cold at my place. The coldest I've flown mine in was 21
degrees F. It was a 1 hour flight. I could hardly speak after I got out
of the p[lane. My jaw was frozen. Brrr.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Pink Slip... the good kind! |
N629ML got her Special Airworthiness Certificate today. The inspector had
no squalks, even with a couple of FAA inspectors looking over his shoulder.
Wish I could have gotten the Feds to come on their own - would have saved
some money but they were re-certifying the DAR.
Weather is going to be squally for several days so it looks like the
weekend before we can look at a first flight.
Thanks to all on this list-serve who have helped me over the 11+ years it
took to get to this point. Mike Cuy, Jack Phillips and Bill Rewey all shared
drawings and ideas and more, including Jack's engine mount jig. I hope to
see all of you at Brodhead this year.
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Re: Pink Slip... the good kind! |
Congratulations Matt! You give all of us with "two more years" to go a
big shot in the arm.
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> <Woodflier@aol.com> 5/17/2011 4:09 PM >>>
N629ML got her Special Airworthiness Certificate today. The inspector had
no squalks, even with a couple of FAA inspectors looking over his
shoulder. Wish I could have gotten the Feds to come on their own - would
have saved some money but they were re-certifying the DAR.
Weather is going to be squally for several days so it looks like the
weekend before we can look at a first flight.
Thanks to all on this list-serve who have helped me over the 11+ years it
took to get to this point. Mike Cuy, Jack Phillips and Bill Rewey all
shared drawings and ideas and more, including Jack's engine mount jig. I
hope to see all of you at Brodhead this year.
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Pink Slip... the good kind! |
Way to go, Matt! I'll have to re-think my plan to fly the RV-4 to Brodhead,
if you are going to fly your Piet. Formation flying is definitely the most
fun. And safer.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Woodflier@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pink Slip... the good kind!
N629ML got her Special Airworthiness Certificate today. The inspector had no
squalks, even with a couple of FAA inspectors looking over his shoulder.
Wish I could have gotten the Feds to come on their own - would have saved
some money but they were re-certifying the DAR.
Weather is going to be squally for several days so it looks like the weekend
before we can look at a first flight.
Thanks to all on this list-serve who have helped me over the 11+ years it
took to get to this point. Mike Cuy, Jack Phillips and Bill Rewey all shared
drawings and ideas and more, including Jack's engine mount jig. I hope to
see all of you at Brodhead this year.
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Re: Pink Slip... the good kind! |
Congratulations Matt!!! I am just a little envious. Have fun and lets hear about
how it flies. That is two Piets in 2 days.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair engine rebuilding |
Billy McCaskill wrote:
> That is an interesting discovery, Jon. And that is some great info in the pdf
you attached. I saved a copy on my computer for referrence. I hope that cures
the problems you reported in your previous post about this issue.
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> do not archive
I can understand why GM does not mention much about flash in their shop manual.
They don't want to admit that their casting process may be inferior. I would
like to see it mentioned in the conversion manual.
I just sent my crank off to Advanced Heat Treat Corp. for magnafluxing and nitriding.
Boy shipping is expensive on that little jewel. When I disassembled my
engine, even though it had only been run for 5 hr. the bearings were scored
and some light scoring on the crank. Fortunately the crank polished up nice without
being reground and I will be installing new bearings. Someone must not
have gotten the dirt flushed out before assembling. These are the trials of
buying someone else's project unless you really know about their work. I will
pick up the crank on the way to Corvair College #20. Now out to the shop for
some morework on the heads.
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GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | I can't find my Air Compressor |
Jim Markle came into town this evening and came over for a hamburger. He
expressed interest in learning to rivet so we spent a little time riveting
one of the ailerons on the RV-10 project. He just left and I went back down
to the basement to turn the lights off, and noticed my 60 gallon air
compressor is missing.
Had a great visit with him and it just stoked me up all the more to
anticipate Brodhead in another couple of months.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Hello everyone,
I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet but william wynne is holding
another corvair college next month.I think it is June 3,4 and 5 in Hillsdale
MI. at the Hillsdale municipal airport and will be hosted by Roy
Szarafinski of Roys garage. who does one of the fifth bearing mods.
All this talk about having a good time at Brodhead got me to thinking
what a good time I had at the one in Barnwell SC hosted by P F Beck and Don
Harper back in november. If any of you are interested in using the corvair
this is a good place to go and learn alot about them and get some firsthand
experience from a bottom to top build. they will probably finish and run 10
or 15 engines over the 3 days.
It is also like Brodhead in that you will hang out and make some good
friends in a laid back kind of atmosphere with some good eats and people. you
can go to William's web site at flycorvair.com and get all the info.
Looking forward to my flight back to Brodhead again this year. But it
would be alot more enjoyable with a wingman.so Jack if you want to make a
detour back through west TN I would be glad to haveyou'r company again on the
flight up.
Congrats to both the new piets. you're in for a lot of fun flying ahead!
Randy Bush
NX294RB
Miss Le Bec
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| Subject: | Re: I can't find my Air Compressor |
hahahahahaha....
VERY nice visit with Jack and his family....and great burgers. What a little piece
of paradise....
There are some things about my job that I love but the privilege of visits like
this....priceless.
And since I pitched in and helped with the rivets he'll probably have that RV10
flying pretty soon.....ok, just 2 rivets.....that was still neat.
Thank you Jack.
jm
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From: Jack Phillips
Sent: May 17, 2011 9:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: I can't find my Air Compressor
Jim Markle came into town this evening and came over for a hamburger. He expressed
interest in learning to rivet so we spent a little time riveting one of the
ailerons on the RV-10 project. He just left and I went back down to the basement
to turn the lights off, and noticed my 60 gallon air compressor is missing
Had a great visit with him and it just stoked me up all the more to anticipate
Brodhead in another couple of months.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP Icarus Plummet
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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| Subject: | Re: I can't find my Air Compressor |
Pietenpol builders don't need no stinking air compressor. There are 10,000 fewer
rivets than that (very cool by the way) RV-10............
Now if your Nicopress was missing.......... ;-)
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Pink Slip... the good kind! |
Awesome Matt! Good luck with your test flights!
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Mark Chouinard
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage question |
Mark,
Thanks for your thoughts. I did bevel my trailing edge verticals as you described.
With the gussets on the outside, I beveled to get a 1 1/8" width when the
sides were joined. Though I read about the 1" width on the list, I never saw
it on the plans I received. Instead, I used the 1 1/8" width I found in the
Flying and Glider Manual.
All said, I did re-measure everything, checked my centerline, and again ensured
the table was level. I couldn't find anything wrong (? gremlins ?). When I
released the clamp at the 11" station, it opened to 11 3/4" and the curve visually
looked just right. With everything squared up, I'm just going to cut the
strut to this width for the top and bottom. Like Jack said, if everything is
square and plumb things should be just about right.
Again, thanks for your input. Your web log has been pretty helpful in building
my plane. Hope to meet you at Brodhead.
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Pink Slip... the good kind! |
Very cool... congrats...!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Plywood Order |
isn't 1/16" called out on the plans for the ribs? I was thinking that
was the right size... maybe i need to refocus on the plans. I too had
been planning okume ply. Watching with interest....fuse jig should be
available tomorrow! I cheated: CNC machined jig. :>)
On 5/7/11, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
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> What do the Bingelis books say on using ply for ribs? I think 1/16 is ok,
> but refer to the experts.
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> Dan
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> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
> On May 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, "Mark M" <mmcfi@juno.com> wrote:
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>> I have been trying to decide the best ( and cheapest) way to order my
>> plywood. I would like to get all of it at the same time because of the
>> shipping costs. I noticed that Boulter has the Okume in 1/16, 1/8 and 1/4
>> and would like to buy it all from them all at once. I think they are
>> cheaper than AS&S from what I can calculate. So 2 questions,
>>
>> 1. Would 1/16th Okume by accecptable for wing ribs. Web site says water
>> and boil proof in all sizes. But is the strength enough?
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>> 2. Here is what I am thinking of ordering. Any other suggestions?
>>
>> 1/16th One and a half sheets to cover the leading edge and gussets
>> for the ribs.
>>
>> 1/8th 2 full sheets for remaining gussets,
>> fuselage sides, seat backs, and turtle decks.
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>> 1/4 full sheet for fuselage floor and seat
>> bottoms.
>> What do you think?
>> Mark
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