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1. 04:17 AM - Re: Re: I can't find my Air Compressor (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:56 AM - Re: project statuses [was: Re: Model "A" engine for sale] (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop (Woodflier@aol.com)
4. 05:36 AM - Matronics problem? (Lawrence Williams)
5. 05:39 AM - Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop (AircamperN11MS)
6. 05:52 AM - Re: Plywood Order (Bill Church)
7. 06:02 AM - Re: project statuses [was: Re: Model "A" engine for sale] (Jack Phillips)
8. 06:03 AM - Re: Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop (Jack Phillips)
9. 06:08 AM - Re: Matronics problem? (Bill Church)
10. 07:57 AM - Re: Brodhead tips (shad bell)
11. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: I can't find my Air Compressor (Darrel Jones)
12. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop (Dan Yocum)
13. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop (Jack Phillips)
14. 10:30 AM - project statuses [was: Re: Model "A" engine for sale] (899PM)
15. 11:51 AM - West Coast Piet Gathering (Michael Groah)
16. 12:44 PM - Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
17. 01:13 PM - Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (jarheadpilot82)
18. 01:14 PM - Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (AircamperN11MS)
19. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
20. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (Ryan Mueller)
21. 01:48 PM - Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (AircamperN11MS)
22. 01:50 PM - Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (AircamperN11MS)
23. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
24. 02:08 PM - Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (K5YAC)
25. 02:13 PM - Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (K5YAC)
26. 05:11 PM - update (airlion)
27. 05:50 PM - Re: update (Jack Phillips)
28. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: I can't find my Air Compressor (Clif Dawson)
29. 07:49 PM - Re: update (dwilson)
30. 08:40 PM - Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls (ldmill)
31. 09:17 PM - Re: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls (gboothe5@comcast.net)
32. 11:21 PM - Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (jarheadpilot82)
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Subject: | Re: I can't find my Air Compressor |
10,000 fewer rivets than an RV-10 would still mean that a Pietenpol would
have 15,000 rivets.
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I can't find my Air Compressor
Pietenpol builders don't need no stinking air compressor. There are 10,000
fewer rivets than that (very cool by the way) RV-10............
Now if your Nicopress was missing.......... ;-)
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Subject: | Re: Model "A" engine for sale] |
Dan,
I'm glad you asked. Monday I flew the Aeronca back to Poplar Grove, to work
on the Piet for a couple of days. It has become apparent that I am not goi
ng to have enough spare time to spend here up north, in order to create and
finish the battery/electronic ignition system I was working on. So I took
it off and I am just going with the one crank-driven magneto. At some point
in the future I will finish my work on the new system, but not now. So the
plan is to show up at Brodhead this year. I am ready to test-run, but it i
s raining now and I'll have to wait awhile.
As some of you might know, I have a model A with an 8-plug head. Can anyone
see any problem with having that extra set of plugs in there not firing? I
don't think it will be a problem, but I am open to hearing all views.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Subject: | Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop |
Jack, I bought my engine from Rucker Tibbs without logs, and also have a
Cloudcars prop. Scott Liefield, the Cloudcars prop is a 72 X 44. I'll let you
all know how it performs. So far, I get about 2050 rpm at static runup,
but figuring it should go higher when the airplane is airborne.
Matt Paxton
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Subject: | Matronics problem? |
Is anyone else having trouble with the digest version of the Pietlist not
loading?
Larry
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Subject: | Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop |
Matt,
What engine do you have the Cloudcar bolted to?
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Plywood Order |
First off, 1/16" IS the thickness called for in the plans, for the wing rib gussets.
I used Finnish Birch A/C ply for mine, but the ribs are very robust. While
Okoume is not quite as strong as Birch I'm sure it would work just fine for
the rib gussets. I'm using 1088 Okoume Marine ply for all the rest of my plywood
in my construction.
And secondly, Mark (Roberts), never mind making CNC-machined jigs - why not just
build some airplane parts.
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: Model "A" engine for sale] |
Shouldn't be a problem, other than possibly fouling the non-firing plugs.
I'd advise cleaning them well before using them again.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: project statuses [was: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model "A" engine for
sale]
Dan,
I'm glad you asked. Monday I flew the Aeronca back to Poplar Grove, to work
on the Piet for a couple of days. It has become apparent that I am not going
to have enough spare time to spend here up north, in order to create and
finish the battery/electronic ignition system I was working on. So I took it
off and I am just going with the one crank-driven magneto. At some point in
the future I will finish my work on the new system, but not now. So the plan
is to show up at Brodhead this year. I am ready to test-run, but it is
raining now and I'll have to wait awhile.
As some of you might know, I have a model A with an 8-plug head. Can anyone
see any problem with having that extra set of plugs in there not firing? I
don't think it will be a problem, but I am open to hearing all views.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Subject: | Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop |
Did Rucker rebuild the engine? I've heard both good and bad things about
his "mechanikin' ".
Jack
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Woodflier@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop
Jack, I bought my engine from Rucker Tibbs without logs, and also have a
Cloudcars prop. Scott Liefield, the Cloudcars prop is a 72 X 44. I'll let
you all know how it performs. So far, I get about 2050 rpm at static runup,
but figuring it should go higher when the airplane is airborne.
Matt Paxton
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Subject: | Re: Matronics problem? |
Larry,
I just went to the Matronics website, and tried to access the Digest version, and
the link did not work for me.
In fact, none of the Digest version links(for other Lists) would work either.
But when I copied and pasted the URL into my browser, it worked.
Maybe this link will do the trick:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list/index.html
Bill C.
ABC, DEF, GHI
LMNOP
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead tips |
I thought those X's ment that was runway 10 (roman numerals) I wondered why
they didn't all head east.
Looking forward to Brodhead, and my piet fly in
Shad
--- On Tue, 5/17/11, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com> wrote:
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead tips
Truer words were never said. I will be there to smack Kevin with a board if
needed.
A wise man once said "Smile son, never disconcert the masses."
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email:=C2-jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 17, 2011, at 11:04 AM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
Jarhead (and all first timers),
Be sure to watch and memorize lines from The Great Waldo Pepper. You do not
want to appear stupid or inconsequential by not inserting the proper quote
at the appropriate time in an otherwise seemingly meaningful conversation.
Gary
Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
tips
Please note the big yellow "X's" on the NW-SE and NE-SW runways. =C2-Thos
e
are reserved for Kevin "Axel" Purtee.
I kid, I kid!
Dan
On 05/17/2011 08:29 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
Here=99s an aerial photo of the field, with some of the main areas ma
rked:
North (to Brodhead)
Pietenpol parking
Hangars
and Movie
Main Runway
09/27
Forums, Dinners, and Shower area
I=99m getting psyched about it. After all, it is only 65 more days (j
ust
nine weeks from Thursday) until we all meet again. Still haven=99t de
cided
if I will fly my Piet there this year, but my guess is, if the weather
is good, I=99ll fly it.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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*From:*owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Douwe
Blumberg
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:45 AM
*To:* pietenpolgroup
*Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Brodhead tips
As mentioned, there is a variety of motels within striking distance if
you want a room. Rv=99s and campers are allowed by the road and aroun
d the
hangars and tents pretty much anywhere. Camping is allowed on the far
side of the closed runway by the trees, (I=99ve been told it was for
tents
only, though I=99m seeing some campers recently) However, NO GENERATO
RS
are allowed there, though they seem to be acceptable around the hangars.
Wherever you end up, they ask for a small camping =9Cdonation
=9D for which
you get your annual Brodhead pin to put on your tent or vehicle.
I THINK there=99s a dinner Friday and Sat evening and there=99s
a breakfast
some mornings, but I=99m not sure which. There are bathrooms and show
ers,
but you have to kind of time your spot as it gets pretty busy.
Sunday is usually just a day for leaving, so don=99t plan on doing
anything. Friday and Saturday seem to be the best days to be there, with
most planes arriving Thurs and Friday. Weather is always an issue so one
is never really sure who will show up or when.
There is an informal campfire most nights with people just hanging out,
and there is a legend of a movie night projected on the side of a
hangar. I=99ve heard it=99s Friday and I=99ve heard it
=99s Saturday, and I=99ve
always wanted to attend, but it seems to be a last minute, rather
secretive event, so good luck with that one.
There are few organized events, it=99s completely laid back. Sometime
s we
get a =9Cdawn patrol=9D of some of the more intrepid aviators a
nd nice
evenings always produce a great flying lineup. IF the weather is good,
planes just come and go all day with rides being hopped by various
friendly pilots. The only organized events are the seminars held on
Saturday, late morning, through the afternoon. These are all given by
volunteers and the topics cover a multitude of subjects based on that
person=99s expertise.
I=99ve seen pretty much every beverage imaginable being consumed at
Brodhead adult and otherwise.
Douwe
Ps. Congratulations on you guys who are done, you=99ve accomplished a
great thing. Fly safe!!
* =C2-*
* =C2-*
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Subject: | Re: I can't find my Air Compressor |
That's 15,000 STAPLES Jack.
Darrel
Sonoma
On 5/18/2011 4:14 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips"<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> 10,000 fewer rivets than an RV-10 would still mean that a Pietenpol would
> have 15,000 rivets.
>
> Jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:13 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I can't find my Air Compressor
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "aerocarjake"<flight.jake@gmail.com>
>
> Pietenpol builders don't need no stinking air compressor. There are 10,000
> fewer rivets than that (very cool by the way) RV-10............
>
> Now if your Nicopress was missing.......... ;-)
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340225#340225
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop |
Matt,
Also verify that your tach is calibrated - an optical digital tachometer
will tell if it's correct or not. Here's one from ACS for $37:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/onetouch.php
Probably someone in your area has one they'll let you use, too.
Cheers,
Dan
On 05/18/2011 07:09 AM, Woodflier@aol.com wrote:
> Jack, I bought my engine from Rucker Tibbs without logs, and also have a
> Cloudcars prop. Scott Liefield, the Cloudcars prop is a 72 X 44. I'll
> let you all know how it performs. So far, I get about 2050 rpm at static
> runup, but figuring it should go higher when the airplane is airborne.
> Matt Paxton
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop |
Good idea, Matt. You buy it then I can borrow it to see what my engine/prop
is really doing.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 40 hour fly-off and Cloudcars prop
Matt,
Also verify that your tach is calibrated - an optical digital tachometer
will tell if it's correct or not. Here's one from ACS for $37:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/onetouch.php
Probably someone in your area has one they'll let you use, too.
Cheers,
Dan
On 05/18/2011 07:09 AM, Woodflier@aol.com wrote:
> Jack, I bought my engine from Rucker Tibbs without logs, and also have a
> Cloudcars prop. Scott Liefield, the Cloudcars prop is a 72 X 44. I'll
> let you all know how it performs. So far, I get about 2050 rpm at static
> runup, but figuring it should go higher when the airplane is airborne.
> Matt Paxton
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: project statuses [was: Re: Model "A" engine for sale] |
I have been working mostly on finishing the '38 Taylorcraft restoration. Wx has
been lousy for any test flights, so to soothe myself, I started the Piet two
weekends ago. Ran fine for a couple minutes then shook like it was going to tear
itself off the mount. As I got around to to shut it down, I noticed no tach
and no oil pressure( I had both on start-up). In reviewing the situation, I am
pretty confident that the fiber cam gear self-destructed, throwing the timing
completely off.. I will tear it down as time allows. Discouraging to say the
least.
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PAPA MIKE
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Subject: | West Coast Piet Gathering |
Ok everyone, We're just two and a half weeks away from our third annual West
Coast Pietenpol Gathering!
Location: Frazier Lake (very nice grass strip airport just north of Hollister
CA)
If you're planning on coming it would be nice if you could rsvp to Charlie
Miller (our host)
or my self Mike Groah so Charlie can plan the food. We had a great turn out
and fun time last year
and I'm sure this year will be even better.
Attached is the info sheet for the event which has the times, phone numbers and
other details.
Thanks, and I hope to see you in June!
Mike Groah
Tulare CA
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Subject: | Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA |
Guys-I used to get some really cool hand-written letters and photos from Da
niel
Cork (a former TWA Lockheed Constellation pilot) who built a really neat lo
oking Pietenpol
but lost touch with him and I presume he may have passed but hopefully not
and maybe
you all know of what happened to his Piet or if he ever flew it. I know
he had a son who
was helping him and was/ is a pilot too so perhaps the son has the airplane
or is flying
it. Any updates or info on Dan and his son would be greatly appreciated.
Michael Cuy
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente |
CA
Michael,
I just did a quick search on the FAA Registry and there are no Pietenpols registered
to a last name Cork. There is a Gerald D Cork that owns a C172 in PA and
a Dennis R Cork that owns several Cessnas in AK.
Wish I had better news. I would love to have met him- any pilot that flew Connies
would be great to talk to!
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente |
CA
Hi Mike,
I used to see Dan a lot. He used to come to my Piet gatherings in Corona. He
did finish the Piet. He had flown it a few times then ground looped it, folded
up one of the wire wheels and got the wing and prop. After that he gave it
to his son in Oklahoma. I don't know if it ever got rebuilt. Dan also had a
Tripacer and kept it at Kernville airport here in CA. Here is the last number
I had for him if you would like to give him a ring. 661-867-2704. I haven't
talked to him in several years now. Let me know what you find out.
His Piet even had a wine barrel with a tapper built into it. It was very creative.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente |
CA
Thanks very much for that great update Scott about Dan Cork !
Dan was such a nice guy and sent me all kinds of cool documentation about the
Constellations from back in the day when he was flying them.
I'll have to give Dan a ring and see if he's still around. I would love to catch
up with him. Thanks for that number. I'll let you know what I find out.
Mike Cuy
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente |
CA
The guy that owns the Piet now, per the FAA, lives about a mile south of
Mark C in Owasso!
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=541K
Ryan
(white pages search will find you his number)
<http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=541K>
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE
CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
> Thanks very much for that great update Scott about Dan Cork !
>
> Dan was such a nice guy and sent me all kinds of cool documentation about
> the
> Constellations from back in the day when he was flying them.
>
> I'll have to give Dan a ring and see if he's still around. I would love
> to catch
> up with him. Thanks for that number. I'll let you know what I find out.
>
> Mike Cuy
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente |
CA
I guess I should try and call too. He's a great man. Now I feel bad for not calling
sooner. Shame on me.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente |
CA
Great sleuthing.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, |
Caliente CA
Funny that I stumbled on that too Ryan and actually stumbled on some photos
of Mark C. on his EAA Chapter
web site with his wing ribs, wing, fuselage (not made on a CNC jig) and tai
lfeathers !
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork,
Caliente CA
The guy that owns the Piet now, per the FAA, lives about a mile south of Ma
rk C in Owasso!
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=541K
Ryan
(white pages search will find you his number)
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE
CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov<mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>> wrote:
SPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov<mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>>
Thanks very much for that great update Scott about Dan Cork !
Dan was such a nice guy and sent me all kinds of cool documentation about t
he
Constellations from back in the day when he was flying them.
I'll have to give Dan a ring and see if he's still around. I would love t
o catch
up with him. Thanks for that number. I'll let you know what I find out.
Mike Cuy
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente |
CA
Yep, it did get rebuilt and it flies regularly. N541K is actually a Grega and indeed it is creative... a beer tap, tomahawk, bottle opener and other items adorn the fuselage. The current owner lives on Gundy's airport in Owasso, Oklahoma, which is also where I am building and happens to be right down the street from the son, Dan Cork Jr. He can be contacted through his web site http://www.thebrewshack.com/.
Since we are on the subject, I'll share a short story... as many of you know, I
started on my project a little over two years ago. Shortly after I started work
on my project, I was looking for a cleanser for my beer kegerator lines.
A friend of mine recommended a place called The Brew Shack, which operates out
of a fellow's shop out behind his house. Once I looked at the address I realized
that this guy was located right across the field from my place, so I went
on over. Once I walked inside I saw props on the wall, airplane photos and several
other signs of aviation activity, so of course I offered that I was a pilot
and that I was building a Pietenpol. He paused for a second and then proceeded
to explain that he and his dad built a Grega. When he started to describe
it, I quickly realized which one he was talking about... It is actually the
only one I have sat in. He took me to his computer and we started looking through
a bunch of photos of him and his dad building N541K. Several days later
he dropped by to hand me a CD with a bunch of build photos, which was a nice
addition to my extremely limited collection. I had obviously not heard of West
Coast Piet or Jim Markle yet... I just know that he's going to come through
with those old Pietenpol newsletters in PDF format any day now.
If I had the CD here I would post a photo. Perhaps I can talk to Dan and the new
owner to see if they would mind me sending the photos to Chris at West Coast
Piet.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente |
CA
Definitely NOT a CNC jig. LOL!
Yeah, I happened across the same results when I was looking for a photo. I know
the new owner pretty well... in fact, I'm borrowing his 00 and 000 torch tips.
I'm pretty sure that he and Dan would let me share the photos if you guys
are interested.
Unlike you old timers, I have no association with the dad, but the son seemed real
nice. Heck, he's a beer and wine guy... gets pretty high marks for that alone!
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Gentlemen, I am in the process of tearing my Piet down to see what can be
saved. The fuselage and firewall forward are good. The tailcone needed some
repair and I have already done that. The landing gear has been rewelded but not
installed yet. My elevators are good but the horizontal and vertical stabs are
toast. I have been doing a lot of repair on the cowling. Also, I will be
rewiring because I took all the instruments out by cutting the wires to keep
from being stolen. I will need to build new wings as they really got smushed.
Will there be any ribs available at brodhead this year? I don't want to spend
all winter building ribs as I am too old. Cheers and I am keeping my hopes up.
See ya'll at Brodhead. I will be driving this time but I was planning to fly my
Piet up. Gardiner Mason
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Gardiner, If you'll buy the material I will build you the ribs.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: update
Gentlemen, I am in the process of tearing my Piet down to see what can be
saved. The fuselage and firewall forward are good. The tailcone needed some
repair and I have already done that. The landing gear has been rewelded but
not
installed yet. My elevators are good but the horizontal and vertical stabs
are
toast. I have been doing a lot of repair on the cowling. Also, I will be
rewiring because I took all the instruments out by cutting the wires to keep
from being stolen. I will need to build new wings as they really got
smushed.
Will there be any ribs available at brodhead this year? I don't want to
spend
all winter building ribs as I am too old. Cheers and I am keeping my hopes
up.
See ya'll at Brodhead. I will be driving this time but I was planning to fly
my
Piet up. Gardiner Mason
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Subject: | Re: I can't find my Air Compressor |
Aarrgghhhhh...That's still enough to make you
turn green and croak 'rivet, rivet!'.
Clif
do not archive
> 10,000 fewer rivets than an RV-10 would still mean that a Pietenpol would
> have 15,000 rivets.
>
> Jack
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Anyone know what would be a fair price for a set of ribs ? These are original
Piet airfoil. Considering building a another set myself.
Dan
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Subject: | Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls |
Fairly long post (adrenaline letdown).
After about 30 hours in this plane, am finally starting to expand my knowledge
of how it handles a wider flight envelope. Today, I learned about where my limit
in crosswind in the GN-1 is. Flew for a little over an hour and winds in Marshalltown,
Iowa were 9kt at 20 degrees off the runway heading when I took-off
- did six T@G with no problem (crosswind component = about 3kt, no biggie).
This was the most wind I've ever flown this plane in to date. However - keep reading
for the Paul Harvey version of the saga.
Next - went up to 3k AGL and did my first stall in this plane. Kept throttling
back and started playing around with slow flight getting a feel for it. At 47mph
indicated (1100rpm), the nose would start to wander around - at 45 mph I'd
get the occasional wiffodill (beginning light buffet of a stall). The rudder
was very sensitive and I felt like I could easily accidentally kick the plane
into a spin if not careful. At 42 mph indicated (the stick was about buried in
my nether regions) - the nose abruptly dropped like a stone slightly to the
right and plane quickly accelerated to 85 mph before I got it pulled out without
pulling too much G. This was a more abrupt stall with not as much warning
as the C-172 that I'm used to flying, but not too bad. However - my big lesson
on this was to make damn sure to watch the airspeed on final - no way will you
ever have time to pull out if you accidentally stall it, and you don't get very
much notice that it's going to happen.
Now the interesting part - I was flying past the airport again (on the way somewhere
else) and decided to check the AWOS - 19kt gusting to 26, 50 degrees off
the runway. Holy smokes.... that can't be right, it's only been an hour - next
update it was 17kt gusting to 25, 45 degrees off - next update it was 18kt
gusting to 24kt, 55 degrees off, then 21kt, then 25, then 23... Okay - I needed
to get down NOW before I soiling myself thinking about this...
First approach was 19 gusting to 23 at 55 degrees off - and I was full rudder and
couldn't hold the 100ft wide runway - was churning butter with the stick it
was miserably rough within 100 ft of the ground - aborted and went around.
Second approach was reported 18 gusting 26 at 55 off the runway- absolute full
rudder and about 30 degrees down wing to hold center line - to a landing that
I would be happy with in a normal situation. Was down and stopped in about 300ft.
What an absolute ego trip!! Of bloody course nobody was watching to congratulate
me on my expert pilot skills... sigh...
18kt crosswind at 55 off the runway is around a 15kt direct crosswind component
- or 17+mph. I don't think I saw more than about a 23kt gust - which would put
it at about 19kt crosswind (22mph).
I'm impressed with the planes ability to handle this high of crosswind - I don't
know what the plane is actually capable of, but I was definitely at my personal
limit.
Too much excitement today for me.
Lorin
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Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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Subject: | Re: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls |
Lorin,
Thanks for the report. Let me be the first to congratulate you on your piloting
skills!!
Gary
Do not archive
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
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From: "ldmill" <lorin.miller@emerson.com>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
Fairly long post (adrenaline letdown).
After about 30 hours in this plane, am finally starting to expand my knowledge
of how it handles a wider flight envelope. Today, I learned about where my limit
in crosswind in the GN-1 is. Flew for a little over an hour and winds in Marshalltown,
Iowa were 9kt at 20 degrees off the runway heading when I took-off
- did six T@G with no problem (crosswind component = about 3kt, no biggie).
This was the most wind I've ever flown this plane in to date. However - keep reading
for the Paul Harvey version of the saga.
Next - went up to 3k AGL and did my first stall in this plane. Kept throttling
back and started playing around with slow flight getting a feel for it. At 47mph
indicated (1100rpm), the nose would start to wander around - at 45 mph I'd
get the occasional wiffodill (beginning light buffet of a stall). The rudder
was very sensitive and I felt like I could easily accidentally kick the plane
into a spin if not careful. At 42 mph indicated (the stick was about buried in
my nether regions) - the nose abruptly dropped like a stone slightly to the
right and plane quickly accelerated to 85 mph before I got it pulled out without
pulling too much G. This was a more abrupt stall with not as much warning
as the C-172 that I'm used to flying, but not too bad. However - my big lesson
on this was to make damn sure to watch the airspeed on final - no way will you
ever have time to pull out if you accidentally stall it, and you don't get very
much notice that it's going to happen.
Now the interesting part - I was flying past the airport again (on the way somewhere
else) and decided to check the AWOS - 19kt gusting to 26, 50 degrees off
the runway. Holy smokes.... that can't be right, it's only been an hour - next
update it was 17kt gusting to 25, 45 degrees off - next update it was 18kt
gusting to 24kt, 55 degrees off, then 21kt, then 25, then 23... Okay - I needed
to get down NOW before I soiling myself thinking about this...
First approach was 19 gusting to 23 at 55 degrees off - and I was full rudder and
couldn't hold the 100ft wide runway - was churning butter with the stick it
was miserably rough within 100 ft of the ground - aborted and went around.
Second approach was reported 18 gusting 26 at 55 off the runway- absolute full
rudder and about 30 degrees down wing to hold center line - to a landing that
I would be happy with in a normal situation. Was down and stopped in about 300ft.
What an absolute ego trip!! Of bloody course nobody was watching to congratulate
me on my expert pilot skills... sigh...
18kt crosswind at 55 off the runway is around a 15kt direct crosswind component
- or 17+mph. I don't think I saw more than about a 23kt gust - which would put
it at about 19kt crosswind (22mph).
I'm impressed with the planes ability to handle this high of crosswind - I don't
know what the plane is actually capable of, but I was definitely at my personal
limit.
Too much excitement today for me.
Lorin
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Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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Subject: | Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente |
CA
Michael,
I am glad that you were able to get this search completed so quickly. It also never
ceases to amaze me how small this Pietenpol world truly is. It also amazes
me how everyone is willing to help and support each other as a part of this
great building and flying community.
I am excited about the opportunity to meet some of you at Brodhead this year. I
have my notebook, pen, and camera ready!
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry
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