---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/22/11: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:05 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Gboothe5) 2. 08:35 AM - Re: Hangar (Bill Church) 3. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: Hangar (Gary Boothe) 4. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Mark Roberts) 5. 09:38 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Mark Roberts) 6. 10:00 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Ryan Mueller) 7. 10:07 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Jerry Dotson) 8. 10:39 AM - Nuthin ever works out like I plan... (Gboothe5) 9. 10:41 AM - Re: A few fuse questions... (Rick Holland) 10. 10:44 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Gboothe5) 11. 11:10 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Matt Dralle) 12. 11:29 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (with URLs this time!) (Matt Dralle) 13. 11:42 AM - Re: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... (jarheadpilot82) 14. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... (Gary Boothe) 15. 12:19 PM - Re: Hangar (bender) 16. 01:59 PM - First Flights (Woodflier@aol.com) 17. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Hangar (Amsafetyc@gmail.com) 18. 04:05 PM - Re: Re: Hangar (Jack Phillips) 19. 04:10 PM - Re: First Flights (Jack Phillips) 20. 04:55 PM - Re: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... (jarheadpilot82) 21. 06:37 PM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (K5YAC) 22. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: Hangar (Dan Yocum) 23. 06:44 PM - Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA (K5YAC) 24. 07:08 PM - Re: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... (Mark Roberts) 25. 07:13 PM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Mark Roberts) 26. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Mark Roberts) 27. 07:19 PM - Re: First Flights (Billy McCaskill) 28. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Mark Roberts) 29. 07:23 PM - Re: Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Mark Roberts) 30. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: Hangar (Amsafetyc@gmail.com) 31. 10:03 PM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:38 AM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? Been using www.mykitplane.com. No complaints.. Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? Funny how I have had a year and a half to ask questions, but one the actual rubber meets the road and the wood chips start flyin', I get questions. What are you using to document your build? I know there are websites, but I forget which they are, and if they are better than starting your own. I have seen www.mywoodenairplane.com and the guy building that plane is a programmer and wrote the code for himself, so, not for sale....but I like his site. I want to document the build on line to share ideas and the build, and hopefully encourage others as I was encouraged whilst on the sidelines. Any and all options appreciated! Mark ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar From: "Bill Church" Did you notice how John posted a small version of the photo of his hangar, to appease those with sllllooooowwww internet connections, and also the full size version of the photo, for those who don't mind scrolling the screen from side to side, if it means that they get detailed photos? Keeping everybody happy. do not archive BC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340585#340585 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:36 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar I would have been happier with the middle-sized version...it would have been juuust right... GB do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Bill Church Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:32 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar Did you notice how John posted a small version of the photo of his hangar, to appease those with sllllooooowwww internet connections, and also the full size version of the photo, for those who don't mind scrolling the screen from side to side, if it means that they get detailed photos? Keeping everybody happy. do not archive BC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340585#340585 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build? From: Mark Roberts Indeed I plan to.... I have surfed Chris's site over the last 2 years as a proxy to scratch the itch of actually building something. I just wasn't sure if that would satisfy the FAA requirement.... I need to do more research on that... On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Billy McCaskill wrote: > > You can always send the pictures to Chris Tracy and have them put up on > www.westcoastpiet.com like many of the other guys on the list have done. > > -------- > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340570#340570 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? From: Mark Roberts That's the one I couldn't remember.... I was thinking of using them as well , but couldn't remember the name... Thanks! Anyone else gots ideas? On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Gboothe5 wrote: > Been using www.mykitplane.com. No complaints=85. > > > Gary > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Roberts > *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:37 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? > > > Funny how I have had a year and a half to ask questions, but one the actu al > rubber meets the road and the wood chips start flyin', I get questions. > > > What are you using to document your build? I know there are websites, but I > forget which they are, and if they are better than starting your own. I h ave > seen www.mywoodenairplane.com and the guy building that plane is a > programmer and wrote the code for himself, so, not for sale....but I like > his site. > > > I want to document the build on line to share ideas and the build, and > hopefully encourage others as I was encouraged whilst on the sidelines. > > > Any and all options appreciated! > > > Mark > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:34 AM PST US From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? A camera and a legal pad would work. It's only as complicated as you want t o make it.... Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: That's the one I couldn't remember.... I was thinking of using them as well , but couldn't remember the name... Thanks! Anyone else gots ideas? On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Gboothe5 wrote: > Been using www.mykitplane.com. No complaints=85. > > > Gary > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Roberts > *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:37 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? > > > Funny how I have had a year and a half to ask questions, but one the actu al > rubber meets the road and the wood chips start flyin', I get questions. > > > What are you using to document your build? I know there are websites, but I > forget which they are, and if they are better than starting your own. I h ave > seen www.mywoodenairplane.com and the guy building that plane is a > programmer and wrote the code for himself, so, not for sale....but I like > his site. > > > I want to document the build on line to share ideas and the build, and > hopefully encourage others as I was encouraged whilst on the sidelines. > > > Any and all options appreciated! > > > Mark > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > * * ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:21 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build? From: "Jerry Dotson" I am using ball point pen and spiral wound notebook. No cell phone.... no stinkin' Ipad, Droid, Iphone. When you hear a strange noise coming from my torso best you hold your breath and take a few steps North. do not archive -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340591#340591 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:39:07 AM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... Since Rapture didn't come, I have to do spring cleaning! Note the rolling wing stand.you can order those on my web site, www.rollingwingstands.com, or, if you want to build your own, you can get the plans at: www.helpbuildingrollingwingstands.com. ;-) Hope everyone's having as good a day as I, Gary ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few fuse questions... From: Rick Holland Agreed, I also waited as long as possible before gluing the firewall. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Amsafetyc@gmail.com wrote: > I am not skinning till much later in the process. Skinning in my never to > be humble opinion reduces your access to many areas. Skin after contols and > instruments are installed and checked. Much easier and less complicated than > removing the skin to make a correction > > John > > Do not archive > > Less Yawanna > > *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless* > > > -----Original message----- > > *From: *Mark Roberts * > To: *pietenpol-list * > Sent: *Sat, May 21, 2011 17:07:55 GMT+00:00* > Subject: *Pietenpol-List: A few fuse questions... > > Hi All: > > Over the several months of reading the list, I have begun to mix reality > with memory farts. Not a good combo. > > I see in the building manual the fuse sides glued on before joining > together. I think I read here that the sides should be put on after joining > and installing the rudder hat, stick, etc. Is this the way to go, or better > to skin the sides on the bench? > > Tail post: carve the posts on each side to join at the tail to equal 1" or > install the 1" post after joining the sides? I think it is a carved post but > thought I'd check... > > I have been thinking that I am to build the sides, join them, install the > floor ply, add the controls, and ply sides last. However, the build pics > seem to show all the folks skinnin' and flooring' first. > > Thanks for the advice! > > Mark > > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:44:14 AM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? Sounds like you're discriminating against illegal pads. Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? A camera and a legal pad would work. It's only as complicated as you want to make it.... Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: That's the one I couldn't remember.... I was thinking of using them as well, but couldn't remember the name... Thanks! Anyone else gots ideas? On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Gboothe5 wrote: Been using www.mykitplane.com. No complaints.. Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? Funny how I have had a year and a half to ask questions, but one the actual rubber meets the road and the wood chips start flyin', I get questions. What are you using to document your build? I know there are websites, but I forget which they are, and if they are better than starting your own. I have seen www.mywoodenairplane.com and the guy building that plane is a programmer and wrote the code for himself, so, not for sale....but I like his site. I want to document the build on line to share ideas and the build, and hopefully encourage others as I was encouraged whilst on the sidelines. Any and all options appreciated! Mark http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List rums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com "http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:10:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build? From: "Matt Dralle" mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote: > What are you using to document your build? I know there are websites, but I forget which they are, and if they are better than starting your own. > > I want to document the build on line to share ideas and the build, and hopefully encourage others as I was encouraged whilst on the sidelines. > Hi Mark, You should check out Kitlog Pro: It allows you to fully document your Experimental build including narratives, hours, pictures, vendors, receipts, everything. All of your data is stored in a local database file on your PC for safe keeping. Additionally, Kitlog provides a lifetime free service that allows you to upload your project progress to a personal website. You can upload each time you locally add a log entry or once a month. What ever you like. You can browse the many projects currently on Kitlog here: I documented the complete build of my Van's RV-8 using Kitlog and can't imagine doing it any other way. Here is a link to my RV-8 website provided courtesy of Kitlog's service: The FAA inspector loved my documentation for my inspection. Family and friends liked being able to keep up to date on my progress, too. Its the best $49 you'll spend on your project. Matt Dralle RV-8 N998RV -------- Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340598#340598 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/matts_rv_8_kitlog_pro_web_site_447.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:29 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build? (with URLs this time!) mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote: > > What are you using to document your build? I know there are websites, > but I forget which they are, and if they are better than starting your own. > > I want to document the build on line to share ideas and the build, > and hopefully encourage others as I was encouraged whilst on the sidelines. > Hi Mark, You should check out Kitlog Pro: http://www.kitlog.com It allows you to fully document your Experimental build including narratives, hours, pictures, vendors, receipts, everything. All of your data is stored in a local database file on your PC for safe keeping. Additionally, Kitlog provides a lifetime free service that allows you to upload your project progress to a personal web site. You can upload each time you locally add a log entry or once a month. What ever you like. You can browse the many projects currently on Kitlog here: http://www.mykitlog.com I documented the complete build of my Van's RV-8 using Kitlog and can't imagine doing it any other way. Here is a link to my RV-8 web site provided courtesy of Kitlog's service: http://www.mykitlog.com/MattsRV8 The FAA inspector loved my documentation for my inspection. Family and friends liked being able to keep up to date on my progress, too. Its the best $49 you'll spend on your project. Matt Dralle RV-8 N998RV ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:42:47 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... From: "jarheadpilot82" Gary, I could not get either link to open up. Are the websites active? I would like to look at them. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340602#340602 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:00 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... dang web servers...can't trust anyone! want some pics? do not archive -----Original Message----- From: jarheadpilot82 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:39 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... Gary, I could not get either link to open up. Are the websites active? I would like to look at them. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340602#340602 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:19:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar From: "bender" I've been brewing beer for a few months now... the big company beer doesn't quite hit the spot like my "Green Torino IPA"...named after my 73 torino... all painted like the dudes car in The Big Lebowski.. should i be bringing a keg to Wisconsin in July ?? Jeff do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340605#340605 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:29 PM PST US From: Woodflier@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flights NX629ML flew today. 2 flights so far - one 20 minutes and one 30 minutes. Got to 5000 ft on the second flight. Good climber, cruises about 75, no squalks. Video at _http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v 54343642030&saved#!/video/video.php?v 54460884961_ (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v 54343642030&saved#!/video/video.php?v 54460884961) Matt Paxton ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:18 PM PST US From: "Amsafetyc@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar Absolutely or two and ice cold Do not archive Les Yawana Yeungling Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: bender Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 19:21:22 GMT+00:00 Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar I've been brewing beer for a few months now... the big company beer doesn't quite hit the spot like my "Green Torino IPA"...named after my 73 torino... all painted like the dudes car in The Big Lebowski.. should i be bringing a keg to Wisconsin in July ?? Jeff do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340605#340605 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:05:28 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar Absolutely, Jeff. It'll make you the most popular guy on the field. Glenn Thomas brought a couple of growlers of his home brew two years ago and I still remember how good it tasted. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar I've been brewing beer for a few months now... the big company beer doesn't quite hit the spot like my "Green Torino IPA"...named after my 73 torino... all painted like the dudes car in The Big Lebowski.. should i be bringing a keg to Wisconsin in July ?? Jeff do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340605#340605 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:04 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: First Flights Attaboy, Matt! Looks like I need to start prepping Karen for me flying the Pietenpol to Brodhead again. I just got it back from the Lynchburg Airshow, and other than an idiot walking into the trailing edge of the wing and putting a big dent in it, it went fine. If you cruise at 75, you might not want to fly with me to Brodhead. Mine gets about 68 or so. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Woodflier@aol.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flights NX629ML flew today. 2 flights so far - one 20 minutes and one 30 minutes. Got to 5000 ft on the second flight. Good climber, cruises about 75, no squalks. Video at http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v 54343642030 &saved#!/video/video.php?v 54460884961 Matt Paxton ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... From: "jarheadpilot82" Yes, please. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340628#340628 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build? From: "K5YAC" I'm agreeing with Matt... Kitlog Pro is great... not to mention that he is the guy that keeps this site alive. It is super easy to update or add photos and it prints out nicely. There are also forms for keeping track of expenses, vendors, helpers, etc. You can view my log at the link in my signature. I've looked at several other programs and I like this one the best. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340633#340633 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:39 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar The Dude, Duderino, Dudemeister, You will be the one that holds the whole fly-in together. I promise not to pee on your rug. Dan -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." On May 22, 2011, at 2:17 PM, "bender" wrote: > > I've been brewing beer for a few months now... the big company beer doesn't quite hit the spot like my "Green Torino IPA"...named after my 73 torino... all painted like the dudes car in The Big Lebowski.. should i be bringing a keg to Wisconsin in July ?? > > Jeff > > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340605#340605 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:16 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for West Coast Pieters--Dan Cork, Caliente CA From: "K5YAC" Got to hand prop my first airplane yesterday. I'm only putting this here because it happened to be N541K at our Learn to Fly event yesterday. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340636#340636 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/n541k_938.jpg ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nuthin ever works out like I plan... From: Mark Roberts Just ordered a set of those plans at your website... I want the vertical stand option for the added $15.... ;o) Nice work Gary. Looking forward to the Poplar Piet's maiden! On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Gboothe5 wrote: > Since Rapture didn=92t come, I have to do spring cleaning! > > > Note the rolling wing stand=85you can order those on my web site, > www.rollingwingstands.com, or, if you want to build your own, you can get > the plans at: www.helpbuildingrollingwingstands.com. ;-) > > > Hope everyone=92s having as good a day as I, > > Gary > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? From: Mark Roberts I know I must sound like a detail-dumb guy, but one of the things I have loved about the West Coast Piet site is the pics and such. I have enjoyed pouring over the pics of others builds, and have seen other aircraft design s who's builders have documented the build with detail over the web, and that sharing with pics has been helpful. Never paid much attention to the software and such at the time, as it was still 'off in the distance' for my start. Anyway, when your pencil and paper crashes, I guess you re-sharpen it... Something to be said for the solid way of doing things. Frankly, I hadn't thought of that option yet! On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Gboothe5 wrote: > Sounds like you=92re discriminating against illegal pads=85 > > > Do not archive > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Mueller > *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:58 AM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? > > > A camera and a legal pad would work. It's only as complicated as you want > to make it.... > > > Ryan > > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 22, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > That's the one I couldn't remember.... I was thinking of using them as > well, but couldn't remember the name... > > > Thanks! Anyone else gots ideas? > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Gboothe5 wrote: > > Been using www.mykitplane.com. No complaints=85. > > > Gary > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Roberts > *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:37 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? > > > Funny how I have had a year and a half to ask questions, but one the actu al > rubber meets the road and the wood chips start flyin', I get questions. > > > What are you using to document your build? I know there are websites, but I > forget which they are, and if they are better than starting your own. I h ave > seen www.mywoodenairplane.com and the guy building that plane is a > programmer and wrote the code for himself, so, not for sale....but I like > his site. > > > I want to document the build on line to share ideas and the build, and > hopefully encourage others as I was encouraged whilst on the sidelines. > > > Any and all options appreciated! > > > Mark > > * * > > * * > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > * * > > * * > > *" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > *tp://forums.matronics.com* > > *_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > > * * > > * * > > *">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > *rums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *"http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contrib ution* > > * * > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build? From: Mark Roberts Thanks Matt: That's exactly the feedback I was looking for. I would prefer to do all you mentioned: Receipts, pics, time, etc. in one place. I will definatly go find it and have a look. I switched to Mac 2 years ago, and can run PC too, but would really prefer a Mac solution, but THAT's asking way too much I know! Thanks again for the feedback. I missed the links in your post (didn't appear) but Google will find the site I'm sure... ;o) Mark On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: > > > mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote: > > What are you using to document your build? I know there are websites, but > I forget which they are, and if they are better than starting your own. > > > > I want to document the build on line to share ideas and the build, and > hopefully encourage others as I was encouraged whilst on the sidelines. > > > > > Hi Mark, > > You should check out Kitlog Pro: > > It allows you to fully document your Experimental build including > narratives, hours, pictures, vendors, receipts, everything. All of your > data is stored in a local database file on your PC for safe keeping. > > Additionally, Kitlog provides a lifetime free service that allows you to > upload your project progress to a personal website. You can upload each > time you locally add a log entry or once a month. What ever you like. You > can browse the many projects currently on Kitlog here: > > I documented the complete build of my Van's RV-8 using Kitlog and can't > imagine doing it any other way. Here is a link to my RV-8 website provided > courtesy of Kitlog's service: > > The FAA inspector loved my documentation for my inspection. Family and > friends liked being able to keep up to date on my progress, too. > > Its the best $49 you'll spend on your project. > > Matt Dralle > RV-8 N998RV > > -------- > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340598#340598 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/matts_rv_8_kitlog_pro_web_site_447.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:24 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: First Flights From: "Billy McCaskill" Perhaps Matt's airspeed indicator isn't properly calibrated yet? Or if his ASI is indicating correctly, he could throttle back a bit and get a little bit better gph on the trip... -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340648#340648 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build? From: Mark Roberts Thanks Mark! On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 6:34 PM, K5YAC wrote: > > I'm agreeing with Matt... Kitlog Pro is great... not to mention that he is > the guy that keeps this site alive. It is super easy to update or add > photos and it prints out nicely. There are also forms for keeping track of > expenses, vendors, helpers, etc. > > You can view my log at the link in my signature. I've looked at several > other programs and I like this one the best. > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340633#340633 > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build? From: Mark Roberts THIS is the program I had seen and couldn't remember what or where it was. I found it on Google after your post, and the link was colored purple, showing I had been there before. THis is what I was looking for, and I am downloading it now. Thanks Matt (and Mark C). I will be registering it soon. Mark On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Thanks Matt: > > That's exactly the feedback I was looking for. I would prefer to do all you > mentioned: Receipts, pics, time, etc. in one place. I will definatly go find > it and have a look. I switched to Mac 2 years ago, and can run PC too, but > would really prefer a Mac solution, but THAT's asking way too much I know! > > Thanks again for the feedback. I missed the links in your post (didn't > appear) but Google will find the site I'm sure... ;o) > > Mark > > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: > >> > >> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote: >> > What are you using to document your build? I know there are websites, >> but I forget which they are, and if they are better than starting your own. >> > >> > I want to document the build on line to share ideas and the build, and >> hopefully encourage others as I was encouraged whilst on the sidelines. >> > >> >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> You should check out Kitlog Pro: >> >> It allows you to fully document your Experimental build including >> narratives, hours, pictures, vendors, receipts, everything. All of your >> data is stored in a local database file on your PC for safe keeping. >> >> Additionally, Kitlog provides a lifetime free service that allows you to >> upload your project progress to a personal website. You can upload each >> time you locally add a log entry or once a month. What ever you like. You >> can browse the many projects currently on Kitlog here: >> >> I documented the complete build of my Van's RV-8 using Kitlog and can't >> imagine doing it any other way. Here is a link to my RV-8 website provided >> courtesy of Kitlog's service: >> >> The FAA inspector loved my documentation for my inspection. Family and >> friends liked being able to keep up to date on my progress, too. >> >> Its the best $49 you'll spend on your project. >> >> Matt Dralle >> RV-8 N998RV >> >> -------- >> Matt Dralle >> Matronics Email List Administrator >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340598#340598 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/matts_rv_8_kitlog_pro_web_site_447.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:58 PM PST US From: "Amsafetyc@gmail.com" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar That was some fine brew. John Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 23:07:17 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar Absolutely, Jeff. It'll make you the most popular guy on the field. Glenn Thomas brought a couple of growlers of his home brew two years ago and I still remember how good it tasted. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hangar I've been brewing beer for a few months now... the big company beer doesn't quite hit the spot like my "Green Torino IPA"...named after my 73 torino... all painted like the dudes car in The Big Lebowski.. should i be bringing a keg to Wisconsin in July ?? Jeff do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340605#340605 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:57 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: What are ya using to log your build? Ipod? Droid? Try a Russian Space Pen and this; http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/03/introducing-the-hipster-pda Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Roberts Anyway, when your pencil and paper crashes, I guess you re-sharpen it... 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