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1. 03:47 AM - Re: First Flights (Jerry Dotson)
2. 04:41 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (bubbleboy)
3. 06:11 AM - Re: dust cover on engine (AircamperN11MS)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: West Coast Piet Gathering (AircamperN11MS)
5. 06:29 AM - Continental C85-12 case (John Franklin)
6. 06:45 AM - Re: First Flights (TOM STINEMETZE)
7. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Gathering (Gboothe5)
8. 07:05 AM - Re: West Coast Piet Gathering (AircamperN11MS)
9. 07:16 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (kevinpurtee)
10. 07:17 AM - Re: dust cover on engine (kevinpurtee)
11. 07:18 AM - Re: First Flights (kevinpurtee)
12. 07:21 AM - Re: West Coast Piet Gathering (kevinpurtee)
13. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Gathering (Gboothe5)
14. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Gathering (Jim Boyer)
15. 08:50 AM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (K5YAC)
16. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Jack Phillips)
17. 11:30 AM - Hales Landing picnic/flyin (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
18. 01:19 PM - Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... (aerocarjake)
19. 01:19 PM - Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... (aerocarjake)
20. 01:21 PM - Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... (aerocarjake)
21. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... (Ryan Mueller)
22. 02:47 PM - Re: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
23. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... (John Hofmann)
24. 03:21 PM - Re: Hales Landing picnic/flyin (shad bell)
25. 03:27 PM - Ringtone/startup/happy music (Ryan Mueller)
26. 04:52 PM - Re: Hales Landing picnic/flyin (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
27. 05:18 PM - Re: Re: What are ya using to log your build? (helspersew@aol.com)
28. 05:49 PM - Re: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
29. 06:10 PM - 1" or 7/8" (Mark Roberts)
30. 06:20 PM - Side-drive magneto mount (helspersew@aol.com)
31. 06:32 PM - Re: 1" or 7/8" (Ryan Mueller)
32. 07:26 PM - Re: 1" or 7/8" (gboothe5@comcast.net)
33. 08:02 PM - Re: 1" or 7/8" (Mark Roberts)
34. 08:06 PM - Re: Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Gboothe5)
35. 09:07 PM - Re: Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Mark Roberts)
36. 09:09 PM - Re: What are ya using to log your build? (Mark Roberts)
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| Subject: | Re: First Flights |
Matt I watched your video and man does it ever climb good. Looks to be a lot more
than 65 HP. Congratulations
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: What are ya using to log your build? |
Just a simple website I threw together myself. Very easy to update and costs about
$20 a year to have.
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Use dreamweaver MX. Im no website whizz but stumble through it.
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 22 Ribs built...
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| Subject: | Re: dust cover on engine |
Douwe,
I was thinking that if you are really concerned, maybe one of the guys would be
willing to store it for you on the front of their Piet and perhaps break it in
for you. It wouldn't get all dirty that way.
Whadda think????
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Gathering |
Mike,
I hope to go also, BUT. I will be in Washington the first week in June. Should
I get back early enough and the weather is not a problem I will attend. Same
as last year, I will bring a tent and sleep under the wing.
We'll see how it goes,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Continental C85-12 case |
A friend of mine out at 4TA0 flies a GN-1 that is powered by a C85. He needs a
new case for that engine, specifically a C85-12. If anyone knows of one available,
or perhaps a run-out C85 engine, please email me offline.
Thanks,
John F.
Richmond, TX
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| Subject: | Re: First Flights |
Sorry Matt but you can't view your link unless you first sign up for
facebook. Ain't no way I'm signing up for one more time waster that will
keep me out of the shop.
Stinemetze
N328X
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>>> <Woodflier@aol.com> 5/22/2011 3:57 PM >>>
NX629ML flew today. 2 flights so far - one 20 minutes and one 30 minutes.
Got to 5000 ft on the second flight. Good climber, cruises about 75, no
squalks. Video at http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v 54343642030
&saved#!/video/video.php?v 54460884961
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Gathering |
We would miss your plane, Scott...Oh, and...you, too!
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AircamperN11MS
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 6:13 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Gathering
<Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
Mike,
I hope to go also, BUT. I will be in Washington the first week in June.
Should I get back early enough and the weather is not a problem I will
attend. Same as last year, I will bring a tent and sleep under the wing.
We'll see how it goes,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Gathering |
I would miss you too. That's why I will try and make it. I hosted the Corona
gathering for 14 years so it's nice to have someone else do it while I enjoy all
the benefits. Ask me for a ride this time. I'm sure I can make it happen.
:-)
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: What are ya using to log your build? |
I kept a pencil & paper builder's log the first several years of the build. Then
I just built the plane. The technology we have now didn't exist then, not
that I would've used it. The pictures on West Coast Piet (all hail Chris Tracy)
were taken mostly by the girl or by me using her camera at her insistence.
I did make notes on details I thought I'd find useful years later in the builder's
log, and I did take a handful of photos with me in them.
There was no question in the FAA guy's mind or my DAR's mind that I built every
bit of that airplane. They didn't even glance at the neglected builder's log.
They just knew it was me.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: dust cover on engine |
Hi Douwe - When I go on my extended "vacations" I use the plastic shrink wrap stuff
that movers use. You can get it at the u-haul store.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: First Flights |
Ah, what magic! Congrat's, Matt!
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Gathering |
Ya know, if I could just get Shad to slide his south 1000 miles, or you guys to
slide yours east 1800, I'd be at all of them...
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Gathering |
I've talked to Shad...we're working on that...
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 7:18 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Gathering
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Ya know, if I could just get Shad to slide his south 1000 miles, or you guys
to slide yours east 1800, I'd be at all of them...
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Gathering |
Kevin fat bottomed girl would look good at Frazier lake West Coast Piet gathering;
or you could come yourself and get some training or something from one of
your bases here on the west coast..
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: What are ya using to log your build? |
My purpose for keeping a detailed log is more than just the proof of builder, but
my 6 year old (4 years old when we started - maybe 10 or more before we finish),
will have a detailed illustration of how we built our airplane. He is old
enough now to understand a little about how this is going together, and has
seen all of the assemblies take shape from sticks, but may not understand why
we did certain things. Anyhow, I hope this will be his airplane one day (wishful
thinking), and he may like to refer to the log.
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Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: What are ya using to log your build? |
I kept a log in a spiral notebook with an ink pen. I wish I'd used a
pencil. Right before the first flight, the hangar flooded in a bad
rainstorm and the log was laying on the floor. Nearly all the notations
just melted away.
The FAA was much more interested in photographs, particularly shots that
showed me actually working on the project, in order to give me the
Repairman's Certificate.
Beware of any electronic log unless you back it up regularly. Hard drives
DO crash (ask me how I know).
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:13 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
I kept a pencil & paper builder's log the first several years of the build.
Then I just built the plane. The technology we have now didn't exist then,
not that I would've used it. The pictures on West Coast Piet (all hail
Chris Tracy) were taken mostly by the girl or by me using her camera at her
insistence.
I did make notes on details I thought I'd find useful years later in the
builder's log, and I did take a handful of photos with me in them.
There was no question in the FAA guy's mind or my DAR's mind that I built
every bit of that airplane. They didn't even glance at the neglected
builder's log. They just knew it was me.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Hales Landing picnic/flyin |
All,
Hales Landing spring picnic is coming up in about 2 weeks, all Piet builders/flyers
are welcome, see attached flyer.
We are in the NW corner of WV, 12 miles south of PKB airport.
We have 3 flyable Piets on the field (2 actually flying), and 3 more Piet projects.
Please contact me or Ed if coming so we can look out for you.
Skip
P. S. You can buy Yeungling in WV, I have some in the hangar frig, and will gladly
pop one or more for any Piet lister who shows.
P.S.S Kip, I would seriously consider moving to a more Yeungling friendly state.
;o)
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| Subject: | Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... |
I recorded this from the movie and it works on my phone as my new ringtone. I can't
get Windows Media Player to play it, however, but if any of you can get this
to work on your phone - then enjoy....!
For those of you with desk phones, you will have to hum the TGWP song as you listen
to your traditional phone ring (ha!)
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... |
second try for attachment...
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... |
Well, it's not letting me attach the (.amr) file, so if anyone wants to try it,
e-mail me directly at: flight.jake@gmail.com and I'll send it to you directly.......
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... |
Email it to me, I'll throw it in the Dropbox and post a link
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:19 PM, aerocarjake <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well, it's not letting me attach the (.amr) file, so if anyone wants to
> try it, e-mail me directly at: flight.jake@gmail.com and I'll send it to
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| Subject: | Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... |
In an attempt to reduce the inventory of adult beverage in the my hangar
refrigerator I met my neighbors and one was named Pepper a partner in a light
sport. He is a medical person, Despite my hopes his first name didn't come
up even though I was hoping it was Waldo. As a medical professional but
not an MD. his hangar mates and partners call him Dr. Pepper. Oh Well so much
for meeting a Waldo pepper, but I did ask in hopes his first name was
Waldo....
If the weather holds for next week I can see the piet moving into her new
home. I would like to have her somewhat assembled and out on the field for
the first annual Amish tail dragger day but still much to do in fabricating
fittings and hanging the wings to make it for the June date. But I will try
to make it.
Mr Brown has offered to help with the move so it may be possible, just too
many variables to contend with to make the display a happening thing.
John
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Les Yagotta Yuengling
In a message dated 5/23/2011 5:28:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rmueller23@gmail.com writes:
Email it to me, I'll throw it in the Dropbox and post a link
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:19 PM, aerocarjake <_flight.jake@gmail.com_
(mailto:flight.jake@gmail.com) > wrote:
<_flight.jake@gmail.com_ (mailto:flight.jake@gmail.com) >
Well, it's not letting me attach the (.amr) file, so if anyone wants to
try it, e-mail me directly at: _flight.jake@gmail.com_
(mailto:flight.jake@gmail.com) and I'll send it to you directly.......
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Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... |
Would that be the famous George Brown from the East Coast?
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 23, 2011, at 4:44 PM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
> In an attempt to reduce the inventory of adult beverage in the my
hangar refrigerator I met my neighbors and one was named Pepper a
partner in a light sport. He is a medical person, Despite my hopes his
first name didn't come up even though I was hoping it was Waldo. As a
medical professional but not an MD. his hangar mates and partners call
him Dr. Pepper. Oh Well so much for meeting a Waldo pepper, but I did
ask in hopes his first name was Waldo....
>
> If the weather holds for next week I can see the piet moving into her
new home. I would like to have her somewhat assembled and out on the
field for the first annual Amish tail dragger day but still much to do
in fabricating fittings and hanging the wings to make it for the June
date. But I will try to make it.
>
> Mr Brown has offered to help with the move so it may be possible, just
too many variables to contend with to make the display a happening
thing.
>
> John
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> Les Yagotta Yuengling
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rmueller23@gmail.com writes:
> Email it to me, I'll throw it in the Dropbox and post a link
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wrote:
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> Well, it's not letting me attach the (.amr) file, so if anyone wants
to try it, e-mail me directly at: flight.jake@gmail.com and I'll send
it to you directly.......
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| Subject: | Re: Hales Landing picnic/flyin |
Skipp, I might be able to make it on saturday, but I don't get off untill m
idnight on friday night, so if I can get my butt out of bed on time and the
weather holds out I should be able to make it.- How long of a flight was
it for you and Ed last year?- I will have to fly home that afternoon, so
I might have to fly me home a case of Yeungling to enjoy here smack dab in
central ohio.- Still haven't got the annual started yet but it should go
quickly.
-
Shad
p.s. I will try to save you and Ed one for when you fly up on the 18th, but
no promises it goes fast here where it is contraban.
--- On Mon, 5/23/11, skipgadd@earthlink.net <skipgadd@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: skipgadd@earthlink.net <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hales Landing picnic/flyin
All,
Hales Landing spring picnic is coming up in about 2 weeks, all Piet builder
s/flyers are welcome, see attached flyer.
We are in the NW corner of WV, 12 miles south of PKB airport.
We have 3 flyable Piets on the field (2 actually flying), and 3 more Piet p
rojects. Please contact me or Ed if coming so we can look out for you.
Skip
-
P. S. You can buy Yeungling in WV, I have some in the hangar frig, and will
gladly pop one or more for any Piet lister who shows.
P.S.S Kip, I would seriously consider moving to a more Yeungling friendly s
tate. ;o)
-
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| Subject: | Ringtone/startup/happy music |
Courtesy of Jack:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/Those%20Magnificent%20Men%20in%20their%20Flying%20Machines%20-%20Original.mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/The%20Great%20Waldo%20Pepper%20March.mp3
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| Subject: | Re: Hales Landing picnic/flyin |
Shad, That would be great. I loged 1.8 on the trip back last year. Our Piets cruz
less than 65 mph, so you should be able to make it in about 1.4 no wind time.
Duats says its about 94 nm. We have hi-test auto gas on the field but no 100
lotsa lead, that can be had at PKB.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
Sent: 5/23/2011 6:23:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hales Landing picnic/flyin
Skipp, I might be able to make it on saturday, but I don't get off untill midnight
on friday night, so if I can get my butt out of bed on time and the weather
holds out I should be able to make it. How long of a flight was it for you
and Ed last year? I will have to fly home that afternoon, so I might have to
fly me home a case of Yeungling to enjoy here smack dab in central ohio. Still
haven't got the annual started yet but it should go quickly.
Shad
p.s. I will try to save you and Ed one for when you fly up on the 18th, but no
promises it goes fast here where it is contraban.
--- On Mon, 5/23/11, skipgadd@earthlink.net <skipgadd@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: skipgadd@earthlink.net <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hales Landing picnic/flyin
All,
Hales Landing spring picnic is coming up in about 2 weeks, all Piet builders/flyers
are welcome, see attached flyer.
We are in the NW corner of WV, 12 miles south of PKB airport.
We have 3 flyable Piets on the field (2 actually flying), and 3 more Piet projects.
Please contact me or Ed if coming so we can look out for you.
Skip
P. S. You can buy Yeungling in WV, I have some in the hangar frig, and will gladly
pop one or more for any Piet lister who shows.
P.S.S Kip, I would seriously consider moving to a more Yeungling friendly state.
;o)
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| Subject: | Re: What are ya using to log your build? |
Never kept a log of any kind. Was "too busy building". Took lots of photos.
Kept receipts. On inspection day, the DAR asked for "The builder's log", a
nd I told him "I really don't have one, but I have photos, receipts, etc".
------------------------(silent pause)------------------------------------H
e then proceeded to recite the FAR that required a log, and asked me once a
gain, "Are you telling me that you have a log, or are you telling me that y
ou don't have a log?".......................(slight pause).................
......[writer's injection: It's a good thing that I am so emotionally sharp
, quick with my wits, and intellectually keen. My computer-like mind was ab
le to ingest all his words, along with taking into consideration the unique
intonation. I could almost hear the audible clicks of all the micro-proces
sor-like connections being made in my brain, kind of like it was happening
in slow-motion].
After what seemed to me like an eternity, I meekly replied.................
.."I have a log".
Luckily, he just glossed-over it, and didn't make a big deal about it. I ha
ndled it verrrry cooly, but admittedly, a few (very tiny) beads of sweat di
d form on my brow...................... I don't think he really noticed.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 10:53 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
et>
I kept a log in a spiral notebook with an ink pen. I wish I'd used a
encil. Right before the first flight, the hangar flooded in a bad
ainstorm and the log was laying on the floor. Nearly all the notations
ust melted away.
The FAA was much more interested in photographs, particularly shots that
howed me actually working on the project, in order to give me the
epairman's Certificate.
Beware of any electronic log unless you back it up regularly. Hard drives
O crash (ask me how I know).
Jack Phillips
X899JP "Icarus Plummet"
mith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
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ent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:13 AM
o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
I kept a pencil & paper builder's log the first several years of the build.
hen I just built the plane. The technology we have now didn't exist then,
ot that I would've used it. The pictures on West Coast Piet (all hail
hris Tracy) were taken mostly by the girl or by me using her camera at her
nsistence.
I did make notes on details I thought I'd find useful years later in the
uilder's log, and I did take a handful of photos with me in them.
There was no question in the FAA guy's mind or my DAR's mind that I built
very bit of that airplane. They didn't even glance at the neglected
uilder's log. They just knew it was me.
do not archive
--------
evin "Axel" Purtee
X899KP
ustin/Georgetown, TX
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 10:53 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
et>
I kept a log in a spiral notebook with an ink pen. I wish I'd used a
encil. Right before the first flight, the hangar flooded in a bad
ainstorm and the log was laying on the floor. Nearly all the notations
ust melted away.
The FAA was much more interested in photographs, particularly shots that
howed me actually working on the project, in order to give me the
epairman's Certificate.
Beware of any electronic log unless you back it up regularly. Hard drives
O crash (ask me how I know).
Jack Phillips
X899JP "Icarus Plummet"
mith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
ent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:13 AM
o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
I kept a pencil & paper builder's log the first several years of the build.
hen I just built the plane. The technology we have now didn't exist then,
ot that I would've used it. The pictures on West Coast Piet (all hail
hris Tracy) were taken mostly by the girl or by me using her camera at her
nsistence.
I did make notes on details I thought I'd find useful years later in the
uilder's log, and I did take a handful of photos with me in them.
There was no question in the FAA guy's mind or my DAR's mind that I built
very bit of that airplane. They didn't even glance at the neglected
uilder's log. They just knew it was me.
do not archive
--------
evin "Axel" Purtee
X899KP
ustin/Georgetown, TX
ead this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340686#340686
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| Subject: | Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... |
New guy
John
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 22:08:08 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone...
Would that be the famous George Brown from the East Coast?
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 23, 2011, at 4:44 PM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
> In an attempt to reduce the inventory of adult beverage in the my hangar
refrigerator I met my neighbors and one was named Pepper a partner in a
light sport. He is a medical person, Despite my hopes his first name didn't
come up even though I was hoping it was Waldo. As a medical professional but
not an MD. his hangar mates and partners call him Dr. Pepper. Oh Well so
much for meeting a Waldo pepper, but I did ask in hopes his first name was
Waldo....
>
> If the weather holds for next week I can see the piet moving into her new
home. I would like to have her somewhat assembled and out on the field for
the first annual Amish tail dragger day but still much to do in fabricating
fittings and hanging the wings to make it for the June date. But I will try
to make it.
>
> Mr Brown has offered to help with the move so it may be possible, just too
many variables to contend with to make the display a happening thing.
>
> John
>
> Do not Archive
>
> Les Yagotta Yuengling
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/23/2011 5:28:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rmueller23@gmail.com writes:
> Email it to me, I'll throw it in the Dropbox and
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Hi All:
Can anyone verify a memory I have. I seem to remember that in later builds,
Bernard used 7/8" stringers on the main 4 fuse stringers...
Is that correct, or is my memory failing me already?
Thanks for the feedback.
Mark
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| Subject: | Side-drive magneto mount |
Here is a Bosch side-drive mag mount on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RARE-sidedrive-magneto-mount-Model-B-Ford-32
-Flathead-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1e63bdd126QQitemZ130522403110QQptZVin
tageQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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What do your plans say? :-)
do not archive
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Can anyone verify a memory I have. I seem to remember that in later builds,
> Bernard used 7/8" stringers on the main 4 fuse stringers...
>
> Is that correct, or is my memory failing me already?
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Mark
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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I know what the plans say, and I am not trying to re-invent the plane! :o)
I bought some vertical grain sitka for 8.99 per board foot, and it is in th
e
rough. It measures just at 1" rough in most spots, and ove 1" in others, so
I am in the shop planing sruce right now. I stopped to see if anyone had
answered my post, as I was thinking of taking the spruce down to 7/8 on the
stringers to insure no 'rough' was left showing. I can sand away the little
rough spots, but i thought I might make the sides 7/8" thick. $242.64 for
27 board foot of Sitka in the rough. I oughta be able to at least get the
fuse and tail outta that.
Kinda fun to be able to build it from raw wood, although I didn't cut the
tree down! :o)
I think if I were you guys, I'd be the one answering the question like Ryan
,
but I might not have been as nice.... "Geez dude? Why re-invent the wheel?
The plans call out 1", make them 1"!"
I will be close, but thought if 7/8" would be what Ol' Bernie made later
fuses out of, I'd still be pure enough. I will be using the Corvair, and I
plan to make the whole plane out of the sitka I can grab locally.
Posts of little wood chips later! :o)
Thanks guys! Very excited to finally start. (Job? What job.... I'm livin'
in the shop now!)
Mark
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:22 PM, <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mark,
>
> AC 43.13 allows for a downsize in dimension when switching from spruce to
a
> stronger wood such as Doug Fir. You are the manufacturer, Mark Roberts
> Pietenpols, and you can do whatever you want; however, I think you will b
e
> shopping for a larger than normal engine...and I think you are using Popl
ar,
> a wood that is more flexible, but not stronger. My suggestion would be to
> stick with 1", for a couple reasons: you may need the strength for larger
> engines; it's an easy number to deal with. Remember what they say about
> lying...once you tell a lie, you must always remember who you lied to. Sa
me
> goes for changing dimensions.
>
> Gary
> (Did I ever lie to you?)
>
> Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE
> ------------------------------
> *From: * Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
> *Sender: * owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> *Date: *Mon, 23 May 2011 18:07:42 -0700
> *To: *pietenpol-list<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> *ReplyTo: * pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: 1" or 7/8"
>
> Hi All:
>
> Can anyone verify a memory I have. I seem to rem= ember that in later
> builds, Bernard used 7/8" stringers on the main 4 = fuse stringers...
>
> Is that correct, or is my memory= failing me already?
>
> Thanks for-the-feedback.
>
> M= ark
>
> *
>
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(Light shining in your eyes)."Ve haf vays of makingk you talk!"
Gary
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
Never kept a log of any kind. Was "too busy building". Took lots of photos.
Kept receipts. On inspection day, the DAR asked for "The builder's log", and
I told him "I really don't have one, but I have photos, receipts, etc".
------------------------(silent pause)------------------------------------He
then proceeded to recite the FAR that required a log, and asked me once
again, "Are you telling me that you have a log, or are you telling me that
you don't have a log?".......................(slight
pause).......................[writer's injection: It's a good thing that I
am so emotionally sharp, quick with my wits, and intellectually keen. My
computer-like mind was able to ingest all his words, along with taking into
consideration the unique intonation. I could almost hear the audible clicks
of all the micro-processor-like connections being made in my brain, kind of
like it was happening in slow-motion].
After what seemed to me like an eternity, I meekly
replied..................."I have a log".
Luckily, he just glossed-over it, and didn't make a big deal about it. I
handled it verrrry cooly, but admittedly, a few (very tiny) beads of sweat
did form on my brow...................... I don't think he really noticed.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 10:53 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
I kept a log in a spiral notebook with an ink pen. I wish I'd used a
pencil. Right before the first flight, the hangar flooded in a bad
rainstorm and the log was laying on the floor. Nearly all the notations
just melted away.
The FAA was much more interested in photographs, particularly shots that
showed me actually working on the project, in order to give me the
Repairman's Certificate.
Beware of any electronic log unless you back it up regularly. Hard drives
DO crash (ask me how I know).
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com?> ] On Behalf Of
kevinpurtee
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:13 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
I kept a pencil & paper builder's log the first several years of the build.
Then I just built the plane. The technology we have now didn't exist then,
not that I would've used it. The pictures on West Coast Piet (all hail
Chris Tracy) were taken mostly by the girl or by me using her camera at her
insistence.
I did make notes on details I thought I'd find useful years later in the
builder's log, and I did take a handful of photos with me in them.
There was no question in the FAA guy's mind or my DAR's mind that I built
every bit of that airplane. They didn't even glance at the neglected
builder's log. They just knew it was me.
do not archive
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NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Well, I know my personality type, as tested in multiple tests, shows that I
am the entertainer type, and my wife is the detailed book keeper type. So
after 2 years of marriage, I relinquished the control of finances to her,
and accepted the meek allowance and a lifetime of hiding what I spend, only
to be discovered later and have to spend many weekends in repentance mode.
However, after a night in the barn tonight shaving down a plank of wood to
the right thickness to saw into little sticks, I think I am wanting to
detail this build to look back on when it's done as I am not likely to do
this again. My last name is not Pietenpol, and I probably won't build 20 or
so of these. So, I am gonna get a copy of the kitLog Pro and use it.
Many thanks to Jack for the suggestion to back it up, as I am loathe to do
that, and if I do this electronically as planned, I will be vested in the
program. Back ups mandatory.
Now I gotta go shower off little slivers of Sitka spruce. 15/16ths is close
enough for this plane. That'll be the width of the sides before ply wood.
Mark
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> (Light shining in your eyes)=85=94Ve haf vays of makingk you talk!=94
>
>
> Gary
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *
> helspersew@aol.com
> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2011 5:16 PM
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
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>
> Never kept a log of any kind. Was "too busy building". Took lots of photo
s.
> Kept receipts. On inspection day, the DAR asked for "The builder's log",
and
> I told him "I really don't have one, but I have photos, receipts,
> etc". ------------------------(silent
> pause)------------------------------------He then proceeded to recite the
> FAR that required a log, and asked me once again, "Are you telling me tha
t
> you have a log, or are you telling me that you don't have a
> log?".......................(slight pause).......................[writer'
s
> injection: It's a good thing that I am so emotionally sharp, quick with m
y
> wits, and intellectually keen. My computer-like mind was able to ingest
> all his words, along with taking into consideration the unique intonation
. I
> could almost hear the audible clicks of all the micro-processor-like
> connections being made in my brain, kind of like it was happening in
> slow-motion].
>
>
> After what seemed to me like an eternity, I meekly replied...............
...."I
> have a log".
>
>
> Luckily, he just glossed-over it, and didn't make a big deal about it. I
> handled it verrrry cooly, but admittedly, a few (very tiny) beads of swea
t
> did form on my brow...................... I don't think he really noticed
.
>
>
> Dan Helsper
>
> Puryear, TN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 10:53 am
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
>
.net>
>
>
> I kept a log in a spiral notebook with an ink pen. I wish I'd used a
>
> pencil. Right before the first flight, the hangar flooded in a bad
>
> rainstorm and the log was laying on the floor. Nearly all the notations
>
> just melted away.
>
>
> The FAA was much more interested in photographs, particularly shots that
>
> showed me actually working on the project, in order to give me the
>
> Repairman's Certificate.
>
>
> Beware of any electronic log unless you back it up regularly. Hard drive
s
>
> DO crash (ask me how I know).
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
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> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com <owner-pietenpol-list-s
erver@matronics.com?>] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
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> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:13 AM
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> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: What are ya using to log your build?
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>
>
> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
>
> I kept a pencil & paper builder's log the first several years of the buil
d.
>
> Then I just built the plane. The technology we have now didn't exist the
n,
>
> not that I would've used it. The pictures on West Coast Piet (all hail
>
> Chris Tracy) were taken mostly by the girl or by me using her camera at h
er
>
> insistence.
>
>
> I did make notes on details I thought I'd find useful years later in the
>
> builder's log, and I did take a handful of photos with me in them.
>
>
> There was no question in the FAA guy's mind or my DAR's mind that I built
>
> every bit of that airplane. They didn't even glance at the neglected
>
> builder's log. They just knew it was me.
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --------
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> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>
> NX899KP
>
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Ha! Love it
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Ipod? Droid? Try a Russian Space Pen and this;
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> http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/03/introducing-the-hipster-pda
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> Clif
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
> Anyway, when your pencil and paper crashes, I guess you re-sharpen it...
> Mark
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