---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/24/11: 55 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:50 AM - 1" or 7/8" (helspersew@aol.com) 2. 05:24 AM - Restart (Charles Campbell) 3. 05:31 AM - Re: Restart (Gboothe5) 4. 05:38 AM - Restart (Charles Campbell) 5. 05:40 AM - Re: Restart (Jack Phillips) 6. 05:49 AM - Re: Restart (Bill Church) 7. 06:15 AM - Re: Restart (Jack Phillips) 8. 06:30 AM - Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Purtee, Kevin M Mr CIV USA NGB) 9. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 10. 06:44 AM - Re: Restart (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 11. 06:59 AM - Re: West Coast Piet Gathering (kevinpurtee) 12. 07:01 AM - Re: Restart (kevinpurtee) 13. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (gboothe5@comcast.net) 14. 07:07 AM - Re: 1" or 7/8" (kevinpurtee) 15. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 16. 07:27 AM - Re: 1" or 7/8" (Owen Davies) 17. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Jim Boyer) 18. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Gathering (Jim Boyer) 19. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Jim Boyer) 20. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: 1" or 7/8" (Ryan Mueller) 21. 08:46 AM - how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? (giacummo) 22. 09:00 AM - Re: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? (Jim Markle) 23. 09:17 AM - Re: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? (giacummo) 24. 09:22 AM - Re: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? (Ryan Mueller) 25. 09:30 AM - Re: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? (K5YAC) 26. 10:09 AM - ping pong balls? (Dan Yocum) 27. 10:23 AM - Re: 1" or 7/8" (bphillip@shentel.net) 28. 10:28 AM - Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Larry Metzel) 29. 10:35 AM - Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... (aerocarjake) 30. 11:17 AM - Re: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... (Ryan Mueller) 31. 11:28 AM - Fitting Wings Soon...advise? (Michael Perez) 32. 11:46 AM - Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 33. 12:14 PM - Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? (Jack Phillips) 34. 12:29 PM - Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 35. 12:45 PM - Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? (Hans Van Der Voort) 36. 02:06 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Jack Phillips) 37. 02:46 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Jim Markle) 38. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Gboothe5) 39. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Gboothe5) 40. 05:02 PM - Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? (Pieti Lowell) 41. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Gboothe5) 42. 05:18 PM - Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? (Pieti Lowell) 43. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (helspersew@aol.com) 44. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? (Gboothe5) 45. 06:03 PM - Larry Metzel (Gboothe5) 46. 06:05 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Gboothe5) 47. 06:12 PM - first time on list (Robert S. Edson) 48. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Jim Boyer) 49. 06:32 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Ryan Mueller) 50. 06:35 PM - Re: first time on list (Gboothe5) 51. 06:36 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Gboothe5) 52. 06:39 PM - Re: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! (Gboothe5) 53. 06:58 PM - Re: first time on list (Jack Phillips) 54. 07:18 PM - Re: first time on list (Amsafetyc@gmail.com) 55. 08:13 PM - Re: first time on list (K5YAC) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:57 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1" or 7/8" From: helspersew@aol.com Hi Mark, When I was at Brodhead a few years ago, the "Last Original" was sitting in front of it's hangar. I purposely measured the fuselage stringers, because when I was carefully inspecting the plane, it jumped-out at me when I looke d at that part, that it looked like it was less than 1". I distinctly remem ber that the stringer was 7/8" across the top, but I can't conclusively rem ember the other vertical dimension. I am glad I got to see that airplane, because I have not seen it since. It might be there but the owner doesn't bring it out. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:56 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Restart Just restarted on my wings. How zat? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:35 AM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Restart 'atta boy! Gary Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Restart Just restarted on my wings. How zat? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:49 AM PST US From: "Charles Campbell" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Restart OOPS! Forgot the attachment. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:21 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Restart Attaboy, Chuck! Once again, I commend you for your attitude. I'll bet you'll find that this set will go together about twice as fast as the original, and your satisfaction will be ten times greater than if you wondered about those spars eveery time you hit a little turbulence. I was talking with Gene Rambo yesterday about the fact that even when being very careful with making patterns, you still often throw out the first part you make. He was talking about making aluminum engine cowlings. I told him that I had to make my lower cowling twice, even though the cardboard pattern fit perfectly. If you are not willing to reject parts for quality reasons, you have no business building an airplane. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Restart Just restarted on my wings. How zat? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:10 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Restart From: "Bill Church" Now THOSE are spars! Looks good, Chuck. do not archive BC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340770#340770 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:45 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Restart Now THOSE look like spars should look. Do Not Archive Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Campbell Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Restart OOPS! Forgot the attachment. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:25 AM PST US From: "Purtee, Kevin M Mr CIV USA NGB" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Now you can me buy me lots of beer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gboothe5 Subject: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Cc: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > All, > > > > I am elated to announce that we have purchased a lot on Holly Lake > RanchAirstrip (about 2 hrs east of Dallas)! For me, it's a dream- > come-true. My > wife is less than elated.well, OK, she's mortified! I gave the > realtor $100 > bill to tell her that the summers weren't really that hot.I don't > think he > tried very hard. > > > > Anyhow, this is retirement property (5-7 years for me). All came > about from > my chance meeting with fellow Pietenpoler, Robert Caldwell, > several weeks > ago. I was on a jobsite in Gilmer, Tx, and made contact with him. > Takingadvantage of a rare break in the windy conditions, he flew > me to this area > where he lives, and I fell in love with it! We don't have many of > theseopportunities in the West.even if one could afford to retire > in California! > > > > Gary > > Do not archive > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:35 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Gary, you been sitting here with a four-flusher buying you beer so he can work his way with you! John Do not archive les Itsayuengling In a message dated 5/24/2011 9:30:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kevin.purtee@us.army.mil writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Purtee, Kevin M Mr CIV USA NGB" Now you can me buy me lots of beer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gboothe5 Subject: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! curtdm@gmail.com, kevin.purtee@us.army.mil, ber0101@swbell.net, hvandervoo@aol.com, timothywillis@earthlink.net, taildrags@hotmail.com, Robert Caldwell , apfelcyber@yahoo.com Cc: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > All, > > > > I am elated to announce that we have purchased a lot on Holly Lake > RanchAirstrip (about 2 hrs east of Dallas)! For me, it's a dream- > come-true. My > wife is less than elated.well, OK, she's mortified! I gave the > realtor $100 > bill to tell her that the summers weren't really that hot.I don't > think he > tried very hard. > > > > Anyhow, this is retirement property (5-7 years for me). All came > about from > my chance meeting with fellow Pietenpoler, Robert Caldwell, > several weeks > ago. I was on a jobsite in Gilmer, Tx, and made contact with him. > Takingadvantage of a rare break in the windy conditions, he flew > me to this area > where he lives, and I fell in love with it! We don't have many of > theseopportunities in the West.even if one could afford to retire > in California! > > > > Gary > > Do not archive > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:02 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Restart Looking Good John Do not archive In a message dated 5/24/2011 8:39:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cncampbell@windstream.net writes: OOPS! Forgot the attachment. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Gathering From: "kevinpurtee" Hi Jim - A trip to CA would be beyond cool (not Cool, where Gary lives, until he moves to God's country - that being East Texas, of course), but I don't have enough vacation for the 3 week odyssey the trip would entail. When I retire I will! do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340775#340775 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Restart From: "kevinpurtee" Nice! They look just like the multi-million dollar pieces of wood I bought from Aircraft Spruce many years ago. The nicest wood I've ever seen, bar none. Good stuff. do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340776#340776 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! From: gboothe5@comcast.net SXQganVzdCBrZWVwcyBnZXR0aW5nIGJldHRlciEgRmlyc3QsIEkgZ2V0IHRvIGJ1aWxkIHRoZSBh aXJwbGFuZSBvZiBteSBkcmVhbXM7IHRoZW4gSSBnZXQgdG8gbWVldCBsb3RzIG9mIGdvb2QsIGxp a2UtbWluZGVkIHBlb3BsZSBmcm9tIGFyb3VuZCB0aGUgd29ybGQ7IHRoZW4gSSBnZXQgdG8gcHVy Y2hhc2UgYWlycG9ydCBwcm9wZXJ0eSBpbiB0aGUgZ3JlYXQgc3RhdGUgb2YgVGV4YXM7IHRoZW4g SSBnZXQgdG8gYnV5IG1vcmUgYmVlciBmb3IgQXhlbCBQdXJ0ZWUuLi5zb21lb25lIHBpbmNoIG1l IQ0KDQpHYXJ5DQpEbyBub3QgYXJjaGl2ZQ0KU2VudCBvbiB0aGUgU3ByaW50riBOb3cgTmV0d29y ayBmcm9tIG15IEJsYWNrQmVycnmuDQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9t OiBBTXNhZmV0eUNAYW9sLmNvbQ0KU2VuZGVyOiBvd25lci1waWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdC1zZXJ2ZXJA bWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbQ0KRGF0ZTogVHVlLCAyNCBNYXkgMjAxMSAwOTozODowNiANClRvOiA8cGll dGVucG9sLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbT4NClJlcGx5LVRvOiBwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRy b25pY3MuY29tU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBSZTogR3JlZXRpbmdzLCBGZWxs b3cgVGV4aWNhbiBQaWV0ZW5wb2xlcnMhDQoNCg0K ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:57 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1" or 7/8" From: "kevinpurtee" Hi Mark - Since my expertise is limited I offer only one criteria when it comes to design and construction questions: would I be comfortable test-flying your airplane considering the change? If 7/8" stringers are your only deviation from the plans I wouldn't hesitate. (Of course, if you let me test fly your airplane that may call your judgment into question, but that's not the point:).) -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340778#340778 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:10 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! The hits just keep on coming! John Do not archive Even though I warned ya In a message dated 5/24/2011 10:03:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gboothe5@comcast.net writes: It just keeps getting better! First, I get to build the airplane of my dreams; then I get to meet lots of good, like-minded people from around the world; then I get to purchase airport property in the great state of Texa s; then I get to buy more beer for Axel Purtee...someone pinch me! Gary Do not archive Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE ____________________________________ From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Gary, you been sitting here with a four-flusher buying you beer so he can= work his way with you! John Do not archive les Itsayuengling In a message dated 5/24/2011 9:30:53 A.M. 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I purposely measured the fuselage stringers, > because when I was carefully inspecting the plane, it jumped-out at me > when I looked at that part, that it looked like it was less than 1". I > distinctly remember that the stringer was 7/8" across the top, but I > can't conclusively remember the other vertical dimension. I have heard, but can't confirm, that Mr. Pietenpol measured 1" but then ran the saw down the middle of the line, rather than just to the outside. Subtract two half-kerfs from 1", and you might well end up with 7/8. Of course, the plans show what he measured, not what he cut. FWIW. Owen ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:39 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! HI Gary, It sounds good but I thought you were going to Montana to your fathers place when you retired. You will probably like flying the Piet in Texas better than Montana though. Congratulations. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:14 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Gathering Hi Kevin, Too bad it would be nice to have you come to one. Looks like we are going to lose one of our Northern Cal guys to you in Texas before too long. I'm going to have to get up to Cool real soon here before he flying his Piet all over the country. cheers, Jim B. do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:22 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! I'll bet he had the helicopter gun ship hovering over you to get you to say that! or threatened to. Cheers, Jim B. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1" or 7/8" From: Ryan Mueller Ah, you'd be fine....as long as there was a pond handy (sorry, had to) ;-) Ryan do not archive On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:05 AM, kevinpurtee wrote: > kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > Hi Mark - Since my expertise is limited I offer only one criteria when it > comes to design and construction questions: would I be comfortable > test-flying your airplane considering the change? If 7/8" stringers are > your only deviation from the plans I wouldn't hesitate. > > (Of course, if you let me test fly your airplane that may call your > judgment into question, but that's not the point:).) > > -------- > Kevin "Axel" Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340778#340778 > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:41 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? From: "giacummo" Hello, Not yet, but soon I am going to work in the cover of some parts of my airplane like the empanage, etc... Can somebody tell me how many feets/mts of fabric are necesay to cover a Piet? thank you, best regards Mario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340790#340790 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:06 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? I lost count after about the first 5-6 cases of beets. You also have to include the many beets consumed during Brodhead. Also, if you ever have visitors to your hangar you'll.....hey wait a minute....oops, you said FEETS...... .......... Never mind....... do not archive since I wasn't paying attention -----Original Message----- >From: giacummo >Sent: May 24, 2011 8:44 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? > > >Hello, > >Not yet, but soon I am going to work in the cover of some parts of my airplane like the empanage, etc... > >Can somebody tell me how many feets/mts of fabric are necesay to cover a Piet? > >thank you, best regards > >Mario > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340790#340790 > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? From: "giacummo" of course!!! you do not know what mts/kg are... I thought at least 2 neurons are enough; but just one... a veces me olvido que los poliglotas tenemos qu ser el resto. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340794#340794 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? From: Ryan Mueller WTF is that?!? Oh, just a purple Okie....don't mind him ;-) do not archive On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Jim Markle wrote: > jim_markle@mindspring.com> > > I lost count after about the first 5-6 cases of beets. You also have to > include the many beets consumed during Brodhead. > > Also, if you ever have visitors to your hangar you'll.....hey wait a > minute....oops, you said FEETS...... > > .......... > > Never mind....... > > do not archive since I wasn't paying attention > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: giacummo > >Sent: May 24, 2011 8:44 AM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Pietenpol-List: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? > > > mario.giacummo@gmail.com> > > > >Hello, > > > >Not yet, but soon I am going to work in the cover of some parts of my > airplane like the empanage, etc... > > > >Can somebody tell me how many feets/mts of fabric are necesay to cover a > Piet? > > > >thank you, best regards > > > >Mario > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340790#340790 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: how many feets of fabric to cover a Piet? From: "K5YAC" Feets, not beets! HA! Yet another term to our ever expanding Piet vocabulary. do not archive -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340795#340795 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:38 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Pietenpol-List: ping pong balls? Did anyone else catch the comment about filling the wings of a Bellanca Pacemaker with ping-pong balls in the May 2011 AOPA Pilot mag article "Island King" in which a really pretty 1929 Bellanca CH-300 features prominently? http://www.aopa.org/members/files/pilot/2011/may/feature_bellanca.html ;-) That Bellanca kinda looks like a big, enclosed Air Camper with a round engine. Purty! do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:23:04 AM PST US From: bphillip@shentel.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1" or 7/8" Owen: In 1986 when I was a young and impressionable youth of 13 and embarking on the "Pietenpol Path", I believe it was Francis Saunders who told me the very same thing. At the time I thought he was just pulling my leg because I was young, but scales don't lie, and Mr. Pietenpol's airplanes are always the lightest in the crowd. Brett Phillips > > I have heard, but can't confirm, that Mr. Pietenpol measured 1" but then > ran the saw down the middle of the line, rather than just to the > outside. Subtract two half-kerfs from 1", and you might well end up with > 7/8. Of course, the plans show what he measured, not what he cut. > > FWIW. > > Owen --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Shentel WebMail. http://WebMail.Shentel.Net ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:28:48 AM PST US From: Larry Metzel Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Nice!.. I'm envious. I've been trying to find a hangar for my GN-1(A65). Can't seem to find anything east of Dallas. I'm on waiting lists at best. Sure hope I don't miss a Summer of flying. Just need to put the wings on and get her annual-ed/signed off. I'm hoping to keep the drive inside an hr of Garland (east suburb, dallas)..Any ideas? (attachment pic) p.s. I'd like get out and say hi to some fine piet/Gn-1 folk as well, been a little out of the small aeroplane loop.. (family stuff, etc) Larry 214-686-6861 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:57 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... From: "aerocarjake" ryan, what's your e-mail address...? -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340801#340801 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 11:17:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Great Waldo Pepper Ringtone... From: Ryan Mueller rmueller23(at)gmail.com....same one I post from ;) do not archive On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:33 PM, aerocarjake wrote: > > > > ryan, what's your e-mail address...? > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340801#340801 > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:57 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? I am putting the finishing touches on the straight axle fairing and will ha ve the gear re-installed very soon. I Also have the garage ready for the pl ane to be moved into for fitting of the center section, wings and fabricati on of the wing struts and inserts. (aluminum)- I want to get the wing, st ruts and inserts made and attached so I can make the aileron cables as well . Any advice as to rigging, blocking, supporting, (I will be buying 2X4s to support the wings) etc. would be appreciated.- I will also be making/ins talling my wing drag cables...do these get tightened "on the bench" or afte r the wings are mounted on the fuselage and trued? This phase of the build/assembly is all new to me so any help would be grea tly appreciated. Thanks. Michael Perez =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:44 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? Now in the process of moving to MY HANGAR to get ready for the trial fits and fittings I too would be curious as to learning who might be interested in holding the wing panels in place while I monkey around with fittings and bolds and things like that. Additionally any advice or suggestions on rigging the wing to hold it while I monkey with the mountings as a nice alterative to holding it. Thanks John In a message dated 5/24/2011 2:29:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, speedbrake@sbcglobal.net writes: I am putting the finishing touches on the straight axle fairing and will have the gear re-installed very soon. I Also have the garage ready for the plane to be moved into for fitting of the center section, wings and fabrication of the wing struts and inserts. (aluminum) I want to get the wing, struts and inserts made and attached so I can make the aileron cables as well. Any advice as to rigging, blocking, supporting, (I will be buying 2X4s to support the wings) etc. would be appreciated. I will also be making/installing my wing drag cables...do these get tightened "on the bench" or after the wings are mounted on the fuselage and trued? This phase of the build/assembly is all new to me so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 12:14:33 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? Michael, I made some fairly elaborate supports for my wings that allowed me to make infinite adjustments of dihedral and washout (neither of which are really necessary) and to rig the wings straight and true (which is absolutely essential) by turning nuts on threaded rods and locking them with jam nuts, as shown in the photo below: Gene Rambo and I did the same thing on his Pietenpol, but just clamped a 2x4 to the uprights with C-clamps to accomplish the same thing with much less trouble. It's just not as easy to make precise adjustments. Once you have the wing more or less in place, it is useful to have a surveyor's transit to accurately measure the height of the spars at the tips, compared to the longerons which you have painstakingly leveled (remember, building an airplane is just a series of alignment exercises). Using this process, I was able to get my wingtips within 1/16" of each other, and the plane flies straight and true. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:26 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? I am putting the finishing touches on the straight axle fairing and will have the gear re-installed very soon. I Also have the garage ready for the plane to be moved into for fitting of the center section, wings and fabrication of the wing struts and inserts. (aluminum) I want to get the wing, struts and inserts made and attached so I can make the aileron cables as well. Any advice as to rigging, blocking, supporting, (I will be buying 2X4s to support the wings) etc. would be appreciated. I will also be making/installing my wing drag cables...do these get tightened "on the bench" or after the wings are mounted on the fuselage and trued? This phase of the build/assembly is all new to me so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Michael Perez ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 12:29:05 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? Mike- I trammeled my wings before I put them on the airplane. Since you've already got your leading edge on it might resist you squaring the wing up with your drag and anti-drag braces but I'd square them up before you put them on the airplane. Just measure the X-distance between rib bays as you tighten your drag and a nti-drag cables to make sure those diagonal distances are the same so you know your wing is sq uare before you safety wire the turnbuckles and mount the wing to the plane. I can come over and we can work out the wing tip washout and I can verify m easurements with you from bolt-holes to bolt holes. I set mine up in the level flight position with the top of the longeron lev el. A digital angle finder is helpful in setting up flat or dihedral if desired. You may want some weight in the tail so the plane doesn't want to tip forwa rd on you while working on it. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? From: Hans Van Der Voort I made a wing support from 1 1/2 pipe to find out that a simple 6 foot step ladder is much easier to use. Use some seat cushions/pillows to adjust height. see attached Hans -----Original Message----- From: Michael Perez Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 1:29 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? I am putting the finishing touches on the straight axle fairing and will ha ve the gear re-installed very soon. I Also have the garage ready for the pl ane to be moved into for fitting of the center section, wings and fabricati on of the wing struts and inserts. (aluminum) I want to get the wing, stru ts and inserts made and attached so I can make the aileron cables as well. Any advice as to rigging, blocking, supporting, (I will be buying 2X4s to s upport the wings) etc. would be appreciated. I will also be making/install ing my wing drag cables...do these get tightened "on the bench" or after th e wings are mounted on the fuselage and trued? This phase of the build/assembly is all new to me so any help would be grea tly appreciated. Thanks. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 02:06:25 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! I always suspected Gary was a little too rational to live in California forever. You'll like Texas, Gary. It will give you a whole new understanding of the word "crosswind". I remember when I moved to Texas after learning to fly in Tennessee. Until then, I simply wouldn't take my J-3 out of the hangar if the wind was blowing more than 20 knots. Once I moved to Texas, I realized that if I only flew when the winds was less than 20 knots, I would almost never fly. Just remember, the reason it is so windy in Texas is, Oklahoma sucks. Do Not Archive Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia, where I too will retire to a home on an airport, if I can ever sell the house in Raleigh. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Purtee, Kevin M Mr CIV USA NGB Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:28 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Now you can me buy me lots of beer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gboothe5 Subject: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! curtdm@gmail.com, kevin.purtee@us.army.mil, ber0101@swbell.net, hvandervoo@aol.com, timothywillis@earthlink.net, taildrags@hotmail.com, Robert Caldwell , apfelcyber@yahoo.com Cc: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > All, > > > > I am elated to announce that we have purchased a lot on Holly Lake > RanchAirstrip (about 2 hrs east of Dallas)! For me, it's a dream- > come-true. My > wife is less than elated.well, OK, she's mortified! I gave the > realtor $100 > bill to tell her that the summers weren't really that hot.I don't > think he > tried very hard. > > > > Anyhow, this is retirement property (5-7 years for me). All came > about from > my chance meeting with fellow Pietenpoler, Robert Caldwell, > several weeks > ago. I was on a jobsite in Gilmer, Tx, and made contact with him. > Takingadvantage of a rare break in the windy conditions, he flew > me to this area > where he lives, and I fell in love with it! We don't have many of > theseopportunities in the West.even if one could afford to retire > in California! > > > > Gary > > Do not archive > > > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:36 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! You'll like Texas, Gary. It will give you a whole new understanding of the word "crosswind". I remember when I moved to Texas after learning to fly in Tennessee. Until then, I simply wouldn't take my J-3 out of the hangar if the wind was blowing more than 20 knots. Once I moved to Texas, I realized that if I only flew when the winds was less than 20 knots, I would almost never fly. Just remember, the reason it is so windy in Texas is, Oklahoma sucks. Also remember to flush twice since North Carolina is SO far away..... Do Not Archive Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 04:54:19 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! That's perfect, Jack! In this picture you can see the tall trees on the right. I was flying with pilot and Piet builder, Robert Caldwell, in his Stinson.he was counting on those trees killing a little of the x-wind!! I haven't logged any time since 1985, but almost all my time is in tail draggers, and I used to spend hours shooting t&g's, practicing x-wind landings..little did I know. We'll see if I still got it.. Gary, Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:04 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! I always suspected Gary was a little too rational to live in California forever. You'll like Texas, Gary. It will give you a whole new understanding of the word "crosswind". I remember when I moved to Texas after learning to fly in Tennessee. Until then, I simply wouldn't take my J-3 out of the hangar if the wind was blowing more than 20 knots. Once I moved to Texas, I realized that if I only flew when the winds was less than 20 knots, I would almost never fly. Just remember, the reason it is so windy in Texas is, Oklahoma sucks. Do Not Archive Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia, where I too will retire to a home on an airport, if I can ever sell the house in Raleigh. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Purtee, Kevin M Mr CIV USA NGB Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:28 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Now you can me buy me lots of beer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gboothe5 Subject: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! curtdm@gmail.com, kevin.purtee@us.army.mil, ber0101@swbell.net, hvandervoo@aol.com, timothywillis@earthlink.net, taildrags@hotmail.com, Robert Caldwell , apfelcyber@yahoo.com Cc: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > All, > > > > I am elated to announce that we have purchased a lot on Holly Lake > RanchAirstrip (about 2 hrs east of Dallas)! For me, it's a dream- > come-true. My > wife is less than elated.well, OK, she's mortified! I gave the > realtor $100 > bill to tell her that the summers weren't really that hot.I don't > think he > tried very hard. > > > > Anyhow, this is retirement property (5-7 years for me). All came > about from > my chance meeting with fellow Pietenpoler, Robert Caldwell, > several weeks > ago. I was on a jobsite in Gilmer, Tx, and made contact with him. > Takingadvantage of a rare break in the windy conditions, he flew > me to this area > where he lives, and I fell in love with it! We don't have many of > theseopportunities in the West.even if one could afford to retire > in California! > > > > Gary > > Do not archive > > > > > Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much much more: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List Same great content also available via the Web Forums! http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 04:58:05 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Jim, Yes, that was The Plan. My 84 year old widow mother is hooking up with another manGod Bless her! I need a Plan B. Gary Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:20 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! HI Gary, It sounds good but I thought you were going to Montana to your fathers place when you retired. You will probably like flying the Piet in Texas better than Montana though. Congratulations. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 05:02:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? From: "Pieti Lowell" In the olden days I took two sets of conduit that would slide into one an other, I think , 1/2" and 3/4", and with a hacksaw cut one end to fit the wing fitting and the other end of the larger conduit, I sawed a couple slots and with a hose clamp that held the wing in the exact position with infinite adjustments, the lower end of this telescoping pair of conduits cut and drilled to fit the lower mounting. With 4 of these temporary struts I adjusted the wing to it's proper location , tightened the hose-clamps. Cut and assembled the 4 spars to the final dimensions of the conduit's length and wash-out and dihedral when required. Two Piets are still flying with this type of Bernie engineering. And to this day these conduits help hold up many flowering bushes when wrapped gently using strips of old Dacron, Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340844#340844 ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:11 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! You guys are heartless. I could never be so mean. :-/ Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! You'll like Texas, Gary. It will give you a whole new understanding of the word "crosswind". I remember when I moved to Texas after learning to fly in Tennessee. Until then, I simply wouldn't take my J-3 out of the hangar if the wind was blowing more than 20 knots. Once I moved to Texas, I realized that if I only flew when the winds was less than 20 knots, I would almost never fly. Just remember, the reason it is so windy in Texas is, Oklahoma sucks. Also remember to flush twice since North Carolina is SO far away..... Do Not Archive Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:29 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? From: "Pieti Lowell" Mike. I also did the cross strut wires after the 4 struts were assembled and welded and drilled and installed and with about 2" of dihedral, with the clearance holes drilled in the ends of the struts you may loose a little dihedral. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340849#340849 ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 05:30:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! From: helspersew@aol.com Gary, Congratulations on your airpark lot. I would suspect you will love it. Avia tion 24/7 especially since you will be retired. Good for you mi amigo! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Gboothe5 Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 7:05 pm Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! You guys are heartless. I could never be so mean. :-/ Do not archive -----Original Message----- rom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list -server@matronics.com] n Behalf Of Jim Markle ent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:44 PM o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! > You'll like Texas, Gary. It will give you a whole new understanding of the word crosswind". I remember when I moved to Texas after learning to fly in ennessee. Until then, I simply wouldn't take my J-3 out of the hangar if t he ind was blowing more than 20 knots. Once I moved to Texas, I realized that if only flew when the winds was less than 20 knots, I would almost never fly. Just remember, the reason it is so windy in Texas is, Oklahoma sucks. Also remember to flush twice since North Carolina is SO far away..... Do Not Archive Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" -======================== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:54 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? I inherited just such a set up from Mike and Vic Groah!...still got another wing to build before I test them, but it worked on their Piet! Gary Still in Cool -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pieti Lowell Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fitting Wings Soon...advise? In the olden days I took two sets of conduit that would slide into one an other, I think , 1/2" and 3/4", and with a hacksaw cut one end to fit the wing fitting and the other end of the larger conduit, I sawed a couple slots and with a hose clamp that held the wing in the exact position with infinite adjustments, the lower end of this telescoping pair of conduits cut and drilled to fit the lower mounting. With 4 of these temporary struts I adjusted the wing to it's proper location , tightened the hose-clamps. Cut and assembled the 4 spars to the final dimensions of the conduit's length and wash-out and dihedral when required. Two Piets are still flying with this type of Bernie engineering. And to this day these conduits help hold up many flowering bushes when wrapped gently using strips of old Dacron, Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340844#340844 ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 06:03:16 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Larry Metzel Larry - Robert. Robert - Larry. Robert lives in Holly Lake Ranch and keeps his Stinson in Gilmer. You guys should get together! Gary Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Metzel Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Nice!.. I'm envious. I've been trying to find a hangar for my GN-1(A65). Can't seem to find anything east of Dallas. I'm on waiting lists at best. Sure hope I don't miss a Summer of flying. Just need to put the wings on and get her annual-ed/signed off. I'm hoping to keep the drive inside an hr of Garland (east suburb, dallas)..Any ideas? (attachment pic) p.s. I'd like get out and say hi to some fine piet/Gn-1 folk as well, been a little out of the small aeroplane loop.. (family stuff, etc) Larry 214-686-6861 ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:24 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Trying to be like you, Dan! Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:28 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Gary, Congratulations on your airpark lot. I would suspect you will love it. Aviation 24/7 especially since you will be retired. Good for you mi amigo! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Gboothe5 Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 7:05 pm Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! You guys are heartless. I could never be so mean. :-/ Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! You'll like Texas, Gary. It will give you a whole new understanding of the word "crosswind". I remember when I moved to Texas after learning to fly in Tennessee. Until then, I simply wouldn't take my J-3 out of the hangar if the wind was blowing more than 20 knots. Once I moved to Texas, I realized that if I only flew when the winds was less than 20 knots, I would almost never fly. Just remember, the reason it is so windy in Texas is, Oklahoma sucks. Also remember to flush twice since North Carolina is SO far away..... Do Not Archive Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:24 PM PST US From: "Robert S. Edson" Subject: Pietenpol-List: first time on list My name is Bob Edson and I live in Branson Mo. I started my piet in August 2010 and have all the frame completed and on the wooden gear with 21 in. spoked wheels. The engine is an 0200 with 20 min. time on it. Just finished the cowl and I'm installing the instruments and engine controls. I hope to have it finished by winter. All wood is sitka and the ribs are Riblet. Having a great time--got started a little later than most people , I'm 76 years old. Bob Edson ________________________________ Message 48 ____________________________________ Time: 06:17:39 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Gary I understand since Arlene and I have only been married for 6 years since she lost Phil and I lost Roberta. Shoot we are only 74 so we have a third round available yet!!! Oh wow I think I would rather fly my Piet. Cheers, JIm do not archive ________________________________ Message 49 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! From: Ryan Mueller Holy hell....there's hope for me yet! (sorry, couldn't resist) Congrats Jim....here's to getting as close to 74 more as life allows! do not archive On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: > Gary I understand since Arlene and I have only been married for 6 years > since she lost Phil and I lost Roberta. Shoot we are only 74 so we have a > third round available yet!!! > > > Oh wow I think I would rather fly my Piet. > > Cheers, > JIm > > > do not archive > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 50 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:39 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: first time on list Bob, You're my Hero-for-the-Day! Send some pictures!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. Edson Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: first time on list My name is Bob Edson and I live in Branson Mo. I started my piet in August 2010 and have all the frame completed and on the wooden gear with 21 in. spoked wheels. The engine is an 0200 with 20 min. time on it. Just finished the cowl and I'm installing the instruments and engine controls. I hope to have it finished by winter. All wood is sitka and the ribs are Riblet. Having a great time--got started a little later than most people , I'm 76 years old. Bob Edson ________________________________ Message 51 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:47 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! You are blessed! Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Gary I understand since Arlene and I have only been married for 6 years since she lost Phil and I lost Roberta. Shoot we are only 74 so we have a third round available yet!!! Oh wow I think I would rather fly my Piet. Cheers, JIm do not archive ________________________________ Message 52 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:28 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Larry, Forgot to say.Your Piet is BEAUTIFUL!! Gary Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Metzel Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Greetings, Fellow Texican Pietenpolers! Nice!.. I'm envious. I've been trying to find a hangar for my GN-1(A65). Can't seem to find anything east of Dallas. I'm on waiting lists at best. Sure hope I don't miss a Summer of flying. Just need to put the wings on and get her annual-ed/signed off. I'm hoping to keep the drive inside an hr of Garland (east suburb, dallas)..Any ideas? (attachment pic) p.s. I'd like get out and say hi to some fine piet/Gn-1 folk as well, been a little out of the small aeroplane loop.. (family stuff, etc) Larry 214-686-6861 ________________________________ Message 53 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:27 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: first time on list Welcome to the wonderful world of Pieters, Bob. Sounds like you'll have a nice airplane (I'm partial to wire spoked wheels and Continental engines). Come to Brodhead this summer if you can. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. Edson Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: first time on list My name is Bob Edson and I live in Branson Mo. I started my piet in August 2010 and have all the frame completed and on the wooden gear with 21 in. spoked wheels. The engine is an 0200 with 20 min. time on it. Just finished the cowl and I'm installing the instruments and engine controls. I hope to have it finished by winter. All wood is sitka and the ribs are Riblet. Having a great time--got started a little later than most people , I'm 76 years old. Bob Edson ________________________________ Message 54 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:49 PM PST US From: "Amsafetyc@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: first time on list Welcome Bob nice to see a young fellow with such determination you will be flying it to Brodhead this year I suspect? Bob, just teasing about your remarkable progress and determinatin. I do hope you make it to Brodhead this year. For us Piet people and fellow lovers of the blue it is Christmas,Mecca, and all the best life has to offer in a weekend. John Do not archive. We all know it and don't need to look it up later Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: "Robert S. Edson" Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 01:13:44 GMT+00:00 Subject: Pietenpol-List: first time on list My name is Bob Edson and I live in Branson Mo. I started my piet in August 2010 and have all the frame completed and on the wooden gear with 21 in. spoked wheels. The engine is an 0200 with 20 min. time on it. Just finished the cowl and I'm installing the instruments and engine controls. I hope to have it finished by winter. All wood is sitka and the ribs are Riblet. Having a great time--got started a little later than most people , I'm 76 years old. Bob Edson ________________________________ Message 55 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:17 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: first time on list From: "K5YAC" Welcome to the list Bob. 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