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     1. 05:14 AM - Re: Gusset Question and Possibly a Photo (Bill Church)
     2. 02:06 PM - Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (regchief)
     3. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (Gary Boothe)
     4. 02:19 PM - Re: Re: Gusset Question and Possibly a Photo (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
     5. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (helspersew@aol.com)
     6. 02:27 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (Michael Groah)
     7. 02:43 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (Gboothe5)
     8. 05:19 PM - Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (regchief)
     9. 05:21 PM - Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (regchief)
    10. 05:21 PM - Re: Re: Gusset Question and Possibly a Photo (Dan Yocum)
    11. 05:37 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (Gboothe5)
    12. 07:34 PM - Turtle Deck Help! (cjborsuk)
    13. 08:00 PM - Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (regchief)
    14. 08:19 PM - Re: Turtle Deck Help! (Amsafetyc@aol.com)
    15. 08:29 PM - Re: Gusset Question and Possibly a Photo (Bill Church)
    16. 08:46 PM - Re: Turtle Deck Help!2 (jorge lizarraga)
    17. 09:27 PM - Re: Turtle Deck Help!2 (aussiegeorge)
    18. 09:30 PM - Re: Turtle Deck Help!2 (aussiegeorge)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Gusset Question and Possibly a Photo | 
      
      
      Well Lowell, I think you get the award for "most calm reaction to a very aggravating
      set of circumstances". That kind of attitude will come in handy as you progress
      through the build process.
      Be sure to share some photos as you put your Monopoly board together.
      
      Bill C.
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341914#341914
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      
      Will there still be a gathering tomorrow with the rain expected?
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341963#341963
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      
      Hel...I mean, Heck Yeah!!!
      
      Gary - see you there?
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: regchief 
      Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:02 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering 
      
      
      Will there still be a gathering tomorrow with the rain expected?
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341963#341963
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gusset Question and Possibly a Photo | 
      
      I must concurr, the kits are not made ip of the correct materials.
      -
      The tail section kit from Aircraft Spruce and Speciality lacked quite a few
       pieces of material for proper length and size. 
      -
      KMHeide
      Fargo, ND
      
      
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      --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
      
      
      From: Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gusset Question and Possibly a Photo
      
      
      >
      
      Well, I was puzzled when you referred to the "plywood kit". So I took a loo
      k at the ACS website, and found what I assume you ordered. Yowza - $1100 wo
      rth of plywood sheets! I guess the most important thing is that disclaimer 
      at the bottom, where ACS says to refer to the plans and verify sizes and qu
      antities prior to ordering.
      
      How did the list maker come up with 5 full sheets of 1/16" ply? (I calculat
      e one and a half sheets for the whole plane)
      And why is one sheet mahogany, and the other four Birch?
      And where did the 3/32" ply thickness come from? The only place that I can 
      recall seeing 3/32" ply called for in the plans is for some spacers in the 
      3-piece wing (maybe a couple of square feet). In the Pietenpol plans, the f
      uselage sides and gussets, and seatbacks and panels and empennage gussets a
      ll call for 1/8" ply - not 3/32".
      And what's the half sheet of 1/4" marine ply for?
      
      Makes me wonder what aircraft that plywood list is actually for. I seem to 
      recall hearing something about some wood kits actually being suited more to
       the GN-1 than the "real" Air Camper. I haven't seen GN-1 plans, so I can't
       say if that's the case.
      
      Once again, it seems that it's always a good idea to work out the materials
       list on your own, rather than trusting someone else's quantities.
      
      Bill C.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341882#341882
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/acs_ply_kit_125.jpg
      
      
      le, List Admin.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      
      Rain? in California? I thought the good weather was the only reason anyone 
      would stay there.
      
      Please post lots of photos. Us good people on the other side of the world a
      re just curious.
      
      do not archive
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 4:17 pm
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
      
      
      Hel...I mean, Heck Yeah!!!
      Gary - see you there?
      -----Original Message----- 
      rom: regchief 
      ent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:02 PM 
      o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
      ubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering 
      Will there still be a gathering tomorrow with the rain expected?
      
      
      ead this topic online here:
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      The plan is to continue with the meet.- We understand that we probably wo
      n't have too many planes flying in, but Charlie has his Piet based there so
       we will have at least that plane.- We'll still have a great time talking
       Pietenpols, sharing photos and having lunch.- Hope you can make it!=0A
      =0AMike Groah=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: regchief 
      <kbosley@comcast.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday, Ju
      ne 3, 2011 2:02 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gath
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      I'm running out of reasons to stay here!! And so far under water on my house
      that I'm suffering from nitrogen narcosis. 
      
      
      Gary
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      helspersew@aol.com
      Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:21 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
      
      
      Rain? in California? I thought the good weather was the only reason anyone
      would stay there.
      
      
      Please post lots of photos. Us good people on the other side of the world
      are just curious.
      
      
      do not archive
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 4:17 pm
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
      
      
      Hel...I mean, Heck Yeah!!!
      
      Gary - see you there?
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: regchief 
      Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:02 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering 
      
      
      Will there still be a gathering tomorrow with the rain expected?
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      
      I only get one day off a week, and since I have been in California the last 9 months,
      it has managed to rain about 70% of the time, and only for that day.I am
      starting to think I am cursed!
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      
      I will drive up though so I can meet you all!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341989#341989
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gusset Question and Possibly a Photo | 
      
      
      The good folks at Aircraft Spruce monitor this list, so likely they may pipe up
      and put they're 2 cents in. 
      
      With all the times the "approved" parts list has been floated on the list I'm surprised
      they haven't adopted it. It's in the archives if you search for it. 
      
      Dan
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      yocum137@gmail.com
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:11 AM, "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Well Lowell, I think you get the award for "most calm reaction to a very aggravating
      set of circumstances". That kind of attitude will come in handy as you
      progress through the build process.
      > Be sure to share some photos as you put your Monopoly board together.
      > 
      > Bill C.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341914#341914
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      
      Where are you driving from, Regchief?
      
      Gary,
      donotarchive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of regchief
      Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 5:19 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
      
      
      I will drive up though so I can meet you all!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341989#341989
      
      
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| Subject:  | Turtle Deck Help! | 
      
      
      Hey Guys & Gals,
      
      I have spent the last two days trying to get my turtle deck to look right. I have
      been through this list and West Coast Piet and have seen some beautiful work,
      but I can't find a good explanation on how to measure and cut to get it as
      straight as possible. Help needed!
      
      I have been through a bunch of poster board trying different methods. I know there
      has to be an easier way.
      
      Chuck Borsuk
      989CB
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341999#341999
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      
      Paso Robles.
      
      Kelly
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342003#342003
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Turtle Deck Help! | 
      
      Chuck
      
      That's all you spent is 2 days,that's it just 2 days?  I don't know about  
      anyone else but getting a turtle to pose that long, well no wonder you're  
      having difficultities with that part. Actually that has to be one of the  
      more challenging and time consuming parts of the build its a real difficult  
      section to build rebuild build again then build it some more. Truth is I  
      doubt there is an easier way and once you think you got it you're still not  
      going to love it
      
      
      John
      
      Do not archive
      Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
      
      -----Original message-----
      From: cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 02:34:48 GMT+00:00
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtle Deck Help!
      
      
      Hey Guys & Gals,
      
      I have spent the last two days trying to get my turtle deck to look right. I  
      have been through this list and West Coast Piet and have seen some beautiful  
      work, but I can't find a good explanation on how to measure and cut to get  
      it as straight as possible. Help needed!
      
      I have been through a bunch of poster board trying different methods. I know  
      there has to be an easier way.
      
      Chuck Borsuk
      989CB
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341999#341999
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Gusset Question and Possibly a Photo | 
      
      
      I've seen a few different versions of the wood list, and I believe that one of
      them is what the "spruce kit" is based on. But I wasn't aware that there was a
      "plywood kit" offered by Aircraft Spruce. I guess it's relatively new. Just not
      sure where the quantities and thicknesses came from. Apparently not from the
      Pietenpol plans, but MAYBE it may be connected to the Grega plans? Anyone out
      there got a set of GN-1 plans to check against?
      
      Bill C.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342006#342006
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Turtle Deck Help!2 | 
      
      ok in my way i made my i trate to sedyou pict about make like T draw whit t
      he I part lower one used like put my point needle compas ans open the radio
      us over you size mesurament whit fuselaje I add 2inches more her
      
      --- On Fri, 6/3/11, cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtle Deck Help!
      
      
      
      Hey Guys & Gals,
      
      I have spent the last two days trying to get my turtle deck to look right. 
      I have been through this list and West Coast Piet and have seen some beauti
      ful work, but I can't find a good explanation on how to measure and cut to 
      get it as straight as possible. Help needed!
      
      I have been through a bunch of poster board trying different methods. I kno
      w there has to be an easier way.
      
      Chuck Borsuk
      989CB
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341999#341999
      
      
      le, List Admin.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Turtle Deck Help!2 | 
      
      
      Two ideas come to mind when it comes to forming curved shapes. 
      
      Google sketchup with an unfold plugin. It is free to down load and is painful to
      learn to use. But it is so very easy to draw with. 
      
      I bought a copy of turbocad platinum 15 for about three hundred dollars. 
      It has a superb 3d function with an unfold in it. 
      
      Once you have the program learned you want want to go anywhere else.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342012#342012
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Turtle Deck Help!2 | 
      
      
      Two ideas come to mind when it comes to forming curved shapes. 
      
      Google sketchup with an unfold plugin. It is free to down load and is painful to
      learn to use. But it is so very easy to draw with. 
      
      I bought a copy of turbocad platinum 15 for about three hundred dollars. 
      It has a superb 3d function with an unfold in it. 
      
      Once you have the program learned you won't want to go anywhere else.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342013#342013
      
      
 
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