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1. 03:51 AM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 (Kip and Beth Gardner)
2. 08:26 AM - Cabane Fittings (K5YAC)
3. 08:51 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Charles Campbell)
4. 09:12 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Billy McCaskill)
5. 09:14 AM - Re: West Coast Gathering (AircamperN11MS)
6. 09:21 AM - Off topic, another beer statistic (AircamperN11MS)
7. 09:26 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (K5YAC)
8. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Ken Bickers)
9. 09:55 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (K5YAC)
10. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Gboothe5)
11. 10:13 AM - Cabane Fittings (santiago morete)
12. 10:24 AM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 (shad bell)
13. 10:25 AM - Big Piet Blast from the PAST! (Barry Davis)
14. 10:29 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Billy McCaskill)
15. 10:31 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (K5YAC)
16. 10:33 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Jack)
17. 10:33 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Catdesigns)
18. 10:34 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (Bill Church)
19. 11:02 AM - Re: Cabane Fittings (K5YAC)
20. 11:07 AM - A ignition (bender)
21. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Jim Boyer)
22. 03:53 PM - Re: A ignition (helspersew@aol.com)
23. 04:05 PM - Re: A ignition (Paul Jaffray)
24. 04:19 PM - Re: A ignition (gboothe5@comcast.net)
25. 04:30 PM - Re: Flying again (kevinpurtee)
26. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Cabane Fittings (Jack Phillips)
27. 07:20 PM - Re: A ignition (shad bell)
28. 07:51 PM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 (Kip and Beth Gardner)
29. 08:37 PM - Re: Cabane Fittings (K5YAC)
30. 08:57 PM - Re: Cabane Fittings (K5YAC)
31. 09:18 PM - Re: A ignition (Billy McCaskill)
32. 09:24 PM - Re: Flying again (Billy McCaskill)
33. 11:46 PM - Re: Off topic, another beer statistic (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 |
Hi Shad,
Unfortunately I won't make it this year. The excessive rain this
Spring makes farm work a priority now. With any luck we'll still have
a decent year.
Kip Gardner
On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:38 AM, shad bell wrote:
>
>
> Fellow Pieters, Just a reminder of my fly-in on saturday june 18
> here at Chapman Memorial Field (6CM) in Centerburg Ohio. It will be
> a pot luck style event and tent camping here on friday and saturday
> nights. Hope to see many as many of you Ohio area Guys as
> possible. Drive ins are welcome, and parking shouldn't be a
> problem. Please contact me by email, on list or off, if you plan on
> attending. I will give out pattern instructions, driving directions
> etc.
>
> Hope to see Y'all here, Sat June 18
> Shad
>
>
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I am struggling with how to bend my cabane strut fittings. I've looked in the
archives using the search engine and still haven't come up with any ideas.
It is obvious to me that I can make one 90 degree bend with my vise brake, but
making the second bend so close to the first on a part that is nearly 3" long
isn't possible with that type of tool. So I thought that I might initiate both
bends to whatever degree possible and use a bending block to beat them to 90
degrees, but without being firmly clamped on the adjacent side this only makes
for a bowed bend. My next thought was to heat them with my torch and apply
the same force (hammer), but I don't like that idea. Small, cherry red fittings
that need to be positioned properly on a form once hot... yeah, I'm probably
going to get burned.
I've see some photos of other's completed fittings and they don't look like they
have been heated. I looked at Jack Textor's fittings in a recent thread and
they look very nice. I also plan to do the overlapping fittings rather than
the 3-piece welded fittings, but again, the main issue is making the bends on
the long pieces.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
The mechanic who did my fittings did them the way the plans call for --
bending the long piece 90 degrees in two places, making the two tabs in
separate pieces, and welding them to the long, U shaped piece. He told me
later that if he had done it his way he would have made it in one piece of
metal with four bends (five, counting the 45 degree bend). chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane Fittings
>
> I am struggling with how to bend my cabane strut fittings. I've looked in
> the archives using the search engine and still haven't come up with any
> ideas.
>
> It is obvious to me that I can make one 90 degree bend with my vise brake,
> but making the second bend so close to the first on a part that is nearly
> 3" long isn't possible with that type of tool. So I thought that I might
> initiate both bends to whatever degree possible and use a bending block to
> beat them to 90 degrees, but without being firmly clamped on the adjacent
> side this only makes for a bowed bend. My next thought was to heat them
> with my torch and apply the same force (hammer), but I don't like that
> idea. Small, cherry red fittings that need to be positioned properly on a
> form once hot... yeah, I'm probably going to get burned.
>
> I've see some photos of other's completed fittings and they don't look
> like they have been heated. I looked at Jack Textor's fittings in a
> recent thread and they look very nice. I also plan to do the overlapping
> fittings rather than the 3-piece welded fittings, but again, the main
> issue is making the bends on the long pieces.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342296#342296
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/cabane_fittings_738.jpg
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Looks like if you had a bending block about 3" long and 15/16" thick, you could
clamp the bracket around it after the 1st 90 degree bend so that you could hammer
it around to get the 2nd 90 degree bend you need. That's what I would try
to do, can't think of any easier way to do it besides that.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast Gathering |
Oscar,
You just described "unusual" perfectly, unless you live where I do, then it's the
norm. Spring time at my house usually includes winds at 15 gusting to 25 or
30 knots with an occasional calm day or two in between. It typically last from
March through the middle of June. Sounds like how you describe Texas. Anyway,
welcome to the Left Coast. I remember when I flew my Piet around Mt Shasta
it made me feel like an ant on this planet. You'll enjoy the flight when
it happens.
Happy Landings,
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Off topic, another beer statistic |
Finally, another meaningful and encouraging static,
A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year.
Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year.
That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.
Not Bad!!! Maybe I should start drinking beer again?
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Billy McCaskill wrote:
> Looks like if you had a bending block about 3" long and 15/16" thick, you could
clamp the bracket around it after the 1st 90 degree bend so that you could
hammer it around to get the 2nd 90 degree bend you need. That's what I would
try to do, can't think of any easier way to do it besides that.
I tried that with similar results to the second method I mentioned, using a bending
block... but I end up with a rounded bend instead of a boxed fitting. I
guess I didn't clamp the part tightly enough or something.
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Mark Chouinard
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
I used a scrap piece of 1" square tube that was about 8 or 10 inches
long to which I clamped, using a beat up old C-clamp, the metal strap
that I wanted to bend. Imagine the piece of strap forming a T with
the square tube, such that the ears of the piece of strap were ready
to bend down over the square tube. I then tightened the 1" tube into
a table vise. I heated the piece of strap before bending, one ear at
a time. At a dull red, the strap bent nicely.
I also did the nested approach. I waited to do most of the cutting
and trimming until after I had welded the pairs of straps together.
See attached photo.
Cheers, Ken
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Looks like if you had a bending block about 3" long and 15/16" thick, you
could clamp the bracket around it after the 1st 90 degree bend so that you
could hammer it around to get the 2nd 90 degree bend you need. -That's w
hat I would try to do, can't think of any easier way to do it besides that.
>
> --------
> Billy McCaskill
> Urbana, IL
> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342301#342301
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Seems that I'm on the right track based on the initial comments... I guess I just
need to work on my technique a bit.
--------
Mark Chouinard
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
That's exactly how I did mine, using C-clamps and the ever useful bench
vise.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
McCaskill
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cabane Fittings
Looks like if you had a bending block about 3" long and 15/16" thick, you
could clamp the bracket around it after the 1st 90 degree bend so that you
could hammer it around to get the 2nd 90 degree bend you need. That's what
I would try to do, can't think of any easier way to do it besides that.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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or.... http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=1858922506
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 |
Kip, I just got back from driving up to sw canton this morning, what a stor
m!- I got into hail high winds and some pretty good down pours.- It is
definitly WET up that way, I saw what I thought was swamp on the south side
of rt 30, just to see it was a field.- Good Luck with your planting, and
may you have a good yeild.
-
Shad
--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18
Hi Shad,
Unfortunately I won't make it this year. -The excessive rain this Spring
makes farm work a priority now. -With any luck we'll still have a decent
year.
Kip Gardner
On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:38 AM, shad bell wrote:
Fellow Pieters, Just a reminder of my fly-in on saturday june 18 here at Ch
apman Memorial Field (6CM) in Centerburg Ohio.- It will be a pot luck sty
le event and tent camping here on friday and saturday nights.- Hope to se
e many as many of you Ohio area Guys as possible.- Drive ins are welcome,
and parking shouldn't be a problem.- Please contact me by email, on list
or off, if you plan on attending. I will give out pattern instructions, dr
iving directions etc.
-
Hope to see Y'all here, Sat June 18
Shad
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro
nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con
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| Subject: | Big Piet Blast from the PAST! |
Just looking through some old Piet pictures and thought someone might enjoy
these.
The first picture shows all the parts to build 6 Corvair engines. Note the
table is divided into sections with blue tape and well organized. Three
minutes after this picture was taken, all hell broke loose and the building
began. I don't have the heart to show the picture of how the shop looked
after parts started flying together, but it looked like a poorly organized
disaster area.
The second picture is of Doc Mosher's visit to the Big Piet Factory in
Carrollton, Ga.
Barry Davis
NX973BP
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Excellent link, Santiago. I think I remember reading something very similar to
this method in the Bingelis books...
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
[quote="moretesantiago(at)yahoo.c"]or.... http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=1858922506 (http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=1858922506)
> [b]
That is an interesting approach Santiago. Thanks!
--------
Mark Chouinard
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Mark,
I pre-bent each side as far as possible then finished off as seen in the
attachment.
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane Fittings
I am struggling with how to bend my cabane strut fittings. I've looked in
the archives using the search engine and still haven't come up with any
ideas.
It is obvious to me that I can make one 90 degree bend with my vise brake,
but making the second bend so close to the first on a part that is nearly 3"
long isn't possible with that type of tool. So I thought that I might
initiate both bends to whatever degree possible and use a bending block to
beat them to 90 degrees, but without being firmly clamped on the adjacent
side this only makes for a bowed bend. My next thought was to heat them
with my torch and apply the same force (hammer), but I don't like that idea.
Small, cherry red fittings that need to be positioned properly on a form
once hot... yeah, I'm probably going to get burned.
I've see some photos of other's completed fittings and they don't look like
they have been heated. I looked at Jack Textor's fittings in a recent
thread and they look very nice. I also plan to do the overlapping fittings
rather than the 3-piece welded fittings, but again, the main issue is making
the bends on the long pieces.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342296#342296
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Mark
Yes, you need to build bending blocks for this fitting. I use some scrap 3/8th
inch steel I found at the scrap yard. Round the edge to the correct bend radius.
You can see the blocks in this picture.
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Chris%20Tracy/images/IMG_0048.JPG
For this fitting I had to have the blocks hang off the end of the bench vice so
the fitting would clear the jaws as it bent. The free end was clamped together
with a big C-clamp. It will make sense when you try it.
Clamp the long side of the fitting between the blocks and bend the short side until
you get to 90 degrees. Then bend the other side the same way (clamp the
long side , bend the short). The side will stay nice and strait if you hit the
fitting just above where you want it to bend. I found the best way to not damage
your fitting is to use a 1/2 inch brass rod between the hammer and the steel,
wood was destroyed to fast.
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Mark,
Your answer is in your question. You mentioned Jack Textors' fittings. If you go
to Jack's website, way down near the bottom are a couple of photos that show
a good method.
First one 90 degree bend is made, using the vise mounted bending dies. Then the
second bend is started, and bent as far as the equipment will allow. Then, the
third leg is clamped tightly between two substantial metal bars, with the bend
line at the edge of the bars, and the rest of the bend is completed with a
hammer (and possibly a hardwood block or brass bar). I've attached copies of the
relevant photos from Jack's site.
Of course, the other way to make a bend like that is with a brake press and gooseneck
dies, but not too many of us have access to that kind of equipment.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Excellent! I feel better knowing that my thinking wasn't too far off... I just
need to grab some scrap and practice making a few bends. Without a hydraulic
press and proper dies, it seems that these require a little grunt work no matter
which approach is used. Thanks a lot for the input fellas!
--------
Mark Chouinard
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I've been working away... elevators connected.. tail all braced up..
making a couple of pulley brackets for the ailerons.. and all the while trying
to find the right engine parts
there are no dual plug model a heads out there.... snyders is working on it but
no idea when they are coming.. even the single plug heads out there are hard
to come by
so i can get a Thomas aluminum head... and i'm thinking about the corvair ignition
idea..
ie; dual point distributor..two coils...double throw switch and the msd coil switcher..
i'm guessing its been reliable on the corvair
the other option is the single magneto
i just happen to be friends with the president of champion aviation.. and don't
want to take advantage but i've been offered a new slick magneto if i want one....
he wants a prop for his office... maybe i could carve a practice piet prop
in trade..
seems a lot of A piets have a single ignition...and i'm sure its great but the
dual point distributor thing would be really easy.. and maybe lighter
any thoughts
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Hi Mark,
I did my cabane fittings with the vise, a steel block about 7/8" thick and
some pieces of .090 to use to make up the difference.
I first bent the first 90 and then the second 90 as far as possible, wedged
in the block and shims, and pounded the last side down.
I was able to put the fittings in my vise so as to keep the bottom flat by
clamping the steel fill block=C2-against one vise jaw and the bottom of t
he fitting on the other=C2-vise jaw (with a piece of 090 to prevent scarr
ing the fitting). Cranked the vise down tight and used a 2 pound short hand
led mallet to finish off the last side.
this technique worked good for me after I made the usual first sacrificial
"spare part."
Cheers,
Jim B.
Piet on wheels
Tail surfaces mounted
Center section mounted
Control cables in work
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Jeff,
I would vote for the free mag in exchange for the practice prop. Not that I
think the dual point idea is bad, but maybe you could do both. For me, car
ving my prop was the most challenging and rewarding part of the whole const
ruction process. It is something I thought was initially beyond the realm o
f my ability, but like most other phases of the build, it is just a matter
of putting one foot ahead of the other, and slugging through it. Sure, I co
uld have finished and flown a few months earlier, but learning new things w
as a big part of the reason I had for building the airplane in the first pl
ace. (Gary B. please weigh-in.)
FYI I am again re-thinking my 2nd ignition source. I am looking into the WI
CO mag that drops down into the distributor hole in the "A", (a-la Larry Wi
lliams from a few years ago.) No battery, no coil, no distributor or points
, or electronic ignition module. Haven't made up my mind....all I know for
sure is, that I want, in the worst way to fly to Brodhead with the one mag
I have now.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:08 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
>
I've been working away... elevators connected.. tail all braced up..
aking a couple of pulley brackets for the ailerons.. and all the while tryi
ng
o find the right engine parts
there are no dual plug model a heads out there.... snyders is working on it
but
o idea when they are coming.. even the single plug heads out there are hard
to
ome by
so i can get a Thomas aluminum head... and i'm thinking about the corvair
gnition idea..
e; dual point distributor..two coils...double throw switch and the msd coil
witcher..
i'm guessing its been reliable on the corvair
the other option is the single magneto
just happen to be friends with the president of champion aviation.. and do
n't
ant to take advantage but i've been offered a new slick magneto if i want
ne.... he wants a prop for his office... maybe i could carve a practice pie
t
rop in trade..
seems a lot of A piets have a single ignition...and i'm sure its great but
the
ual point distributor thing would be really easy.. and maybe lighter
any thoughts
eff
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Have you looked at the Secrets of Speed Society? They are at
www.secretsofspeed.com. They have high performance model a heads.
On Jun 7, 2011 2:09 PM, "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> wrote:
jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
>
> I've been working away... elevators connected.. tail all braced up..
> making a couple of pulley brackets for the ailerons.. and all the while
trying to find the right engine parts
>
> there are no dual plug model a heads out there.... snyders is working on
it but no idea when they are coming.. even the single plug heads out there
are hard to come by
>
> so i can get a Thomas aluminum head... and i'm thinking about the corvair
ignition idea..
> ie; dual point distributor..two coils...double throw switch and the msd
coil switcher..
>
> i'm guessing its been reliable on the corvair
>
> the other option is the single magneto
> i just happen to be friends with the president of champion aviation.. and
don't want to take advantage but i've been offered a new slick magneto if i
want one.... he wants a prop for his office... maybe i could carve a
practice piet prop in trade..
>
> seems a lot of A piets have a single ignition...and i'm sure its great but
the dual point distributor thing would be really easy.. and maybe lighter
>
> any thoughts
>
>
> jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342322#342322
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying again |
Outstanding, Shad! I know your pain. Look forward to photographing them together
at Brodhead (Good Lord Willin'!). And yes, 100LL has gone up lately.
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Try reading Tony Bingelis' books. He explains in infinite detail exactly
how to do it. This is true for 99% of the questions you will have as you
build your Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:54 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cabane Fittings
That's exactly how I did mine, using C-clamps and the ever useful bench
vise.
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
McCaskill
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cabane Fittings
Looks like if you had a bending block about 3" long and 15/16" thick, you
could clamp the bracket around it after the 1st 90 degree bend so that you
could hammer it around to get the 2nd 90 degree bend you need. That's what
I would try to do, can't think of any easier way to do it besides that.
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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No experiance on the "A"'s (except driving dad's 1932 A V-8-1.5 ton truck
), but the msd coil switcher, duel point dist, and duel coil single plug ig
nition has worked without any problems on our crank snapp'n vair.- It sho
uld work fine on a A.- The hardest part might be getting both sets of poi
nts timed exactly the same.- The points have to be pretty dern close (exa
ctly) 180 degrees apart, and gapped the same to keep the timing exact on bo
th sets of points, but only one set is firing at a time, the other stricly
for back-up.
-
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 |
Thanks Shad,
By the time I got to the farm this AM, the sky was completely black &
we wound up getting about an inch of rain in less than an hour. We
missed the hail at the farm, but I heard we got it back in town & at
my in-laws. We'd had ALMOST an entire week of dry weather & we'd
hoped to plow & harrow today, but maybe tomorrow. It's been a crazy
spring. Figures, seeing as it's the first year I decided to farm full
time :(
Kip
Do not Archive
On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:21 PM, shad bell wrote:
> Kip, I just got back from driving up to sw canton this morning, what
> a storm! I got into hail high winds and some pretty good down
> pours. It is definitly WET up that way, I saw what I thought was
> swamp on the south side of rt 30, just to see it was a field. Good
> Luck with your planting, and may you have a good yeild.
>
> Shad
>
> --- On Tue, 6/7/11, Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 6:49 AM
>
> Hi Shad,
>
> Unfortunately I won't make it this year. The excessive rain this
> Spring makes farm work a priority now. With any luck we'll still
> have a decent year.
>
> Kip Gardner
>
> On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:38 AM, shad bell wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Fellow Pieters, Just a reminder of my fly-in on saturday june 18
>> here at Chapman Memorial Field (6CM) in Centerburg Ohio. It will
>> be a pot luck style event and tent camping here on friday and
>> saturday nights. Hope to see many as many of you Ohio area Guys as
>> possible. Drive ins are welcome, and parking shouldn't be a
>> problem. Please contact me by email, on list or off, if you plan
>> on attending. I will give out pattern instructions, driving
>> directions etc.
>>
>> Hope to see Y'all here, Sat June 18
>> Shad
>>
>>
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>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> Try reading Tony Bingelis' books. He explains in infinite detail exactly
> how to do it. This is true for 99% of the questions you will have as you
> build your Pietenpol.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> --
Ill do that... I've got his books, but must have overlooked that part, or perhaps
I just forgot.
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane Fittings |
Yep, there it is... starting on page 38 of Sportplane Construction Techniques.
We now return you to your regular programming... Brodhead, beets and bad jokes.
[Rolling Eyes]
Do not archive
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Mark Chouinard
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I guess your decision pretty much rests on 2 basic thoughts... 1) do you want a
battery and alternator (more weight and complexity) and a more elaborate electrical
system that is untried on a Model A and will require some fabrication and
experimentation, and 2) do you want a simpler, lighter, more proven, more period-correct
ignition system that probably won't require as much experimentation
and testing? Ultimately it is your plane and your decision, you just have
to weigh the options carefully and choose the system that will best meet your
requirements.
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Billy McCaskill
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| Subject: | Re: Flying again |
I'll be there again this year with my camera, and would be happy to take some pictures
for you Kevin/Shad, or anyone else. I'd even be willing to do some aerial
photography of group or formation flights or whatever.
(This is my way of begging for rides!) [Wink]
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic, another beer statistic |
That's really good! Us Canucks only get 10!
And we walk and paddle a lot more than
900 I can tell you!
Clif
>
> Finally, another meaningful and encouraging static,
>
> A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year.
>
> Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer
> a year.
>
> That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.
>
> Not Bad!!! Maybe I should start drinking beer again?
>
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> Scott Liefeld
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