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     1. 04:06 AM - Re: A ignition (Charles Campbell)
     2. 05:24 AM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
     3. 10:58 AM - Re: A ignition (bender)
     4. 11:28 AM - Re: A ignition (BRETT PHILLIPS)
     5. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: A ignition (helspersew@aol.com)
     6. 06:33 PM - Engine question (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
     7. 06:47 PM - Re: Engine question (jarheadpilot82)
     8. 08:04 PM - Re: West Coast Gathering (Mark Roberts)
     9. 08:17 PM - Re: West Coast Gathering (Gboothe5)
    10. 10:42 PM - Re: West Coast Gathering (Mark Roberts)
 
 
 
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      Shad, I am in the process of building up a Corvair (waiting on a Weseman 
      5th bearing right now.)  I was planning to alternate using the two 
      ignition systems -- check the A side during warmup, then check B side 
      and use B for the flight.  Next time reverse the action.  Do you 
      alternate or use one side all the time?
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: shad bell 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:18 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition
      
      
              No experiance on the "A"'s (except driving dad's 1932 A V-8 1.5 
      ton truck), but the msd coil switcher, duel point dist, and duel coil 
      single plug ignition has worked without any problems on our crank 
      snapp'n vair.  It should work fine on a A.  The hardest part might be 
      getting both sets of points timed exactly the same.  The points have to 
      be pretty dern close (exactly) 180 degrees apart, and gapped the same to 
      keep the timing exact on both sets of points, but only one set is firing 
      at a time, the other stricly for back-up.
      
              Shad 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 | 
      
      Shad,
      Ed and I are still planning to attend, weather permitting.
      Skip
      
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      i need a battery already..... and planning on something as small as possible...
      like the odyssey batteries.. so that is not a factor to me.
      
      i don't really see the dual point distributor as experimental exactly...and i'm
      looking at a new mallory with mechanical advance or even the FSI electronic distributor....both
      work on a cars all day long..
      i like the points idea for the fact that points distributors usually don't just
      quit...they start acting up but don't just stop.. electronic on the other hand
      just die.
      
      i believe the weight of the mallory is a lot less than a slick mag and the mount..
      the battery already needed as a transponder is required here.
      
      the slick would probably last... hmm
      
      jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342422#342422
      
      
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      *Jeff:**
      *
      *
      *
      *My only (relatively limited) experience has been with single ignition on
      the A as designed by Mr. Pietenpol, so I am probably not qualified to give
      an opinion, but I will offer the following observations from my experience
      with other magneto equipped engines:
      *
      *
      *
      *1.) Good magnetos rarely give up at the drop of a hat, rather they tend to
      fade gradually over time
      *
      *2.) Mag problems often show up as hard starting (particularly when hot)
      *
      *3.) Spark plugs often cause more trouble than the source of spark
      (particularly in less than optimum combustion chamber designs like a
      flathead)
      *
      *4.) As Dan will attest, the method of driving and timing the ignition
      source is as important as the source
      *
      *
      *
      *For these reasons among others, the A that I'm building for our ship will
      be single ignition, and my risk management will be based in maintenance.
       There are a multitude of possible ignition systems for the A, but only a
      few that are lightweight, simple, and reliable.
      *
      *
      *
      *If you can't find a dual plug head, Alex Whitmore uses a novel "dual plug"
      adapter in his Piet with apparent success.  It is a metal (steel or
      aluminum?) plug that screws into the existing plug hole.  This plug is
      drilled and tapped for two plugs.  The whole thing looks like a Y before it
      is screwed into the head.  Here's a link to a post on the "FORD BARN" site
      that shows a picture of this adapter:  *
      *
      *
      *http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8860
      *
      *
      *
      *Brett Phillips
      *
      *Strasburg, VA
      *
      *NX311GP
      *
      *
      *
      
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      Hi Jeff,
      
      I weighed my Slick mag= about 5 lbs. if memory serves.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
      Sent: Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:59 pm
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition
      
      
      >
      i need a battery already..... and planning on something as small as possibl
      e... 
      ike the odyssey batteries.. so that is not a factor to me.
      i don't really see the dual point distributor as experimental exactly...and
       i'm 
      ooking at a new mallory with mechanical advance or even the FSI electronic
      
      istributor....both work on a cars all day long..
       like the points idea for the fact that points distributors usually don't j
      ust 
      uit...they start acting up but don't just stop.. electronic on the other ha
      nd 
      ust die.
      i believe the weight of the mallory is a lot less than a slick mag and the
      
      ount.. the battery already needed as a transponder is required here.
      the slick would probably last... hmm
      jeff
      
      
      ead this topic online here:
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342422#342422
      
      
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      Members:
      -
      I received a call today from a-local aviator who was at our EAA chapter m
      eeting and-heard I was searching for an engine to hang on my pietenpol. H
      e advised of a 0290 135hp Lycoming engine removed form a Tripacer that had 
      been damaged. The engine has been rebuilt with 37 hours and then pickled. N
      ot sure what is missing but the majority is all their (might need a few ite
      ms). I have not seen the engine as I wanted to ask a few questions to the l
      ist.
      
      1. Never heard of a Lycoming with fuel injection. Is this 0290 135 hp a goo
      d engine for a pietenpol? 
      -
      2. The engine has been rebuilt-with 37 hours total time; no logs. What ha
      s to be done since it is pickled to bring it back to life?-
      -
      3.-Does anyone have time and/or history on this type of engine?-Good? B
      ad? or run as fast as-I can?-Can parts be easy to find?
      
      
      I need your help fellow pieters! 
      -
      
      Ken
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine question | 
      
      
      Price?
      
      --------
      Semper Fi,
      
      Terry
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342465#342465
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Gathering | 
      
      Hey Oscar!
      
      Are you gonna fly the direct route, or fly up through AZ and CA...following
      I-5? If so, I'd love it if you could stop in Fresno and let me buy you a $10
      hamburger (when you are not actually flying to somewhere, a burger only
      costs $10 at the airport)...
      
      Be great to meet ya!
      
      Mark Roberts
      one side done almost nearly but not quite hardly
      
      
      On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      >
      >
      > I don't know what "unusual" means in California talk, but
      > I can tell you that we (my wife and I, in caravan) drove from
      > Tucson to Yuma to San Diego through El Cajon and then north
      > from San Diego to Oregon and it was one wild couple of days.
      >
      > Headwinds topped 50 MPH much of the time headed west, and even
      > after we turned north on I-5, winds were high and gusty.  All
      > along the route, I kept wondering to myself if I would try to
      > fly Scout through that windy stuff and the answer kept coming
      > up, "NO!"
      >
      > Actually though, by the time we got up past Redding, it settled
      > down somewhat.  Yeah, right ;o)  Snow on the Castle Crags and
      > up on the higher peaks... rain and sleet down low.  Visibilities
      > through the passes probably a couple hundred feet.  Yeah...
      > me and Scout in that stuff-?  Nah.  Carb heat on full time,
      > watching one highway center stripe pass below us every 10 minutes
      > or so... stop for fuel every 2 hours or 5 miles, whichever would
      > come first ;o)
      >
      > I'll wait for the spring thaw and then I'll fly the airplane up
      > from Texas.  That will be late summer in Texas, late spring up
      > here in the Siskiyous ;o)
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      > Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
      > Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)
      > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | West Coast Gathering | 
      
      .then you can stop in Auburn, and I'll buy you another $10 hamburger!
      
      
      Gary
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
      Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:02 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Gathering
      
      
      Hey Oscar!
      
      
      Are you gonna fly the direct route, or fly up through AZ and CA...following
      I-5? If so, I'd love it if you could stop in Fresno and let me buy you a $10
      hamburger (when you are not actually flying to somewhere, a burger only
      costs $10 at the airport)...
      
      
      Be great to meet ya!
      
      
      Mark Roberts
      
      one side done almost nearly but not quite hardly
      
      
      On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      
      
      I don't know what "unusual" means in California talk, but
      I can tell you that we (my wife and I, in caravan) drove from
      Tucson to Yuma to San Diego through El Cajon and then north
      from San Diego to Oregon and it was one wild couple of days.
      
      Headwinds topped 50 MPH much of the time headed west, and even
      after we turned north on I-5, winds were high and gusty.  All
      along the route, I kept wondering to myself if I would try to
      fly Scout through that windy stuff and the answer kept coming
      up, "NO!"
      
      Actually though, by the time we got up past Redding, it settled
      down somewhat.  Yeah, right ;o)  Snow on the Castle Crags and
      up on the higher peaks... rain and sleet down low.  Visibilities
      through the passes probably a couple hundred feet.  Yeah...
      me and Scout in that stuff-?  Nah.  Carb heat on full time,
      watching one highway center stripe pass below us every 10 minutes
      or so... stop for fuel every 2 hours or 5 miles, whichever would
      come first ;o)
      
      I'll wait for the spring thaw and then I'll fly the airplane up
      from Texas.  That will be late summer in Texas, late spring up
      here in the Siskiyous ;o)
      
      do not archive
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
      Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Coast Gathering | 
      
      Geez...they SELL hamburgers in Auburn? I heard they just got telegraph
      service there last year, and the most modern aircraft is an all wood
      Pietenpol Aircamper...
      
      
      On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      >  =85then you can stop in Auburn, and I=92ll buy you another $10 hamburger
      !
      >
      >
      > Gary
      >
      >
      > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Roberts
      > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:02 PM
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Gathering
      >
      >
      > Hey Oscar!
      >
      >
      > Are you gonna fly the direct route, or fly up through AZ and CA...followi
      ng
      > I-5? If so, I'd love it if you could stop in Fresno and let me buy you a 
      $10
      > hamburger (when you are not actually flying to somewhere, a burger only
      > costs $10 at the airport)...
      >
      >
      > Be great to meet ya!
      >
      >
      > Mark Roberts
      >
      > one side done almost nearly but not quite hardly
      >
      >
      > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      > wrote:
      >
      >
      >
      > I don't know what "unusual" means in California talk, but
      > I can tell you that we (my wife and I, in caravan) drove from
      > Tucson to Yuma to San Diego through El Cajon and then north
      > from San Diego to Oregon and it was one wild couple of days.
      >
      > Headwinds topped 50 MPH much of the time headed west, and even
      > after we turned north on I-5, winds were high and gusty.  All
      > along the route, I kept wondering to myself if I would try to
      > fly Scout through that windy stuff and the answer kept coming
      > up, "NO!"
      >
      > Actually though, by the time we got up past Redding, it settled
      > down somewhat.  Yeah, right ;o)  Snow on the Castle Crags and
      > up on the higher peaks... rain and sleet down low.  Visibilities
      > through the passes probably a couple hundred feet.  Yeah...
      > me and Scout in that stuff-?  Nah.  Carb heat on full time,
      > watching one highway center stripe pass below us every 10 minutes
      > or so... stop for fuel every 2 hours or 5 miles, whichever would
      > come first ;o)
      >
      > I'll wait for the spring thaw and then I'll fly the airplane up
      > from Texas.  That will be late summer in Texas, late spring up
      > here in the Siskiyous ;o)
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      > Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
      > Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)
      > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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