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Wed 06/08/11


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 04:06 AM - Re: A ignition (Charles Campbell)
     2. 05:24 AM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
     3. 10:58 AM - Re: A ignition (bender)
     4. 11:28 AM - Re: A ignition (BRETT PHILLIPS)
     5. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: A ignition (helspersew@aol.com)
     6. 06:33 PM - Engine question (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
     7. 06:47 PM - Re: Engine question (jarheadpilot82)
     8. 08:04 PM - Re: West Coast Gathering (Mark Roberts)
     9. 08:17 PM - Re: West Coast Gathering (Gboothe5)
    10. 10:42 PM - Re: West Coast Gathering (Mark Roberts)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:06:50 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: A ignition
    Shad, I am in the process of building up a Corvair (waiting on a Weseman 5th bearing right now.) I was planning to alternate using the two ignition systems -- check the A side during warmup, then check B side and use B for the flight. Next time reverse the action. Do you alternate or use one side all the time? ----- Original Message ----- From: shad bell To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition No experiance on the "A"'s (except driving dad's 1932 A V-8 1.5 ton truck), but the msd coil switcher, duel point dist, and duel coil single plug ignition has worked without any problems on our crank snapp'n vair. It should work fine on a A. The hardest part might be getting both sets of points timed exactly the same. The points have to be pretty dern close (exactly) 180 degrees apart, and gapped the same to keep the timing exact on both sets of points, but only one set is firing at a time, the other stricly for back-up. Shad


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    Time: 05:24:37 AM PST US
    From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18
    Shad, Ed and I are still planning to attend, weather permitting. Skip


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    Time: 10:58:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A ignition
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    i need a battery already..... and planning on something as small as possible... like the odyssey batteries.. so that is not a factor to me. i don't really see the dual point distributor as experimental exactly...and i'm looking at a new mallory with mechanical advance or even the FSI electronic distributor....both work on a cars all day long.. i like the points idea for the fact that points distributors usually don't just quit...they start acting up but don't just stop.. electronic on the other hand just die. i believe the weight of the mallory is a lot less than a slick mag and the mount.. the battery already needed as a transponder is required here. the slick would probably last... hmm jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342422#342422


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    Time: 11:28:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A ignition
    From: BRETT PHILLIPS <bphillip@shentel.net>
    *Jeff:** * * * *My only (relatively limited) experience has been with single ignition on the A as designed by Mr. Pietenpol, so I am probably not qualified to give an opinion, but I will offer the following observations from my experience with other magneto equipped engines: * * * *1.) Good magnetos rarely give up at the drop of a hat, rather they tend to fade gradually over time * *2.) Mag problems often show up as hard starting (particularly when hot) * *3.) Spark plugs often cause more trouble than the source of spark (particularly in less than optimum combustion chamber designs like a flathead) * *4.) As Dan will attest, the method of driving and timing the ignition source is as important as the source * * * *For these reasons among others, the A that I'm building for our ship will be single ignition, and my risk management will be based in maintenance. There are a multitude of possible ignition systems for the A, but only a few that are lightweight, simple, and reliable. * * * *If you can't find a dual plug head, Alex Whitmore uses a novel "dual plug" adapter in his Piet with apparent success. It is a metal (steel or aluminum?) plug that screws into the existing plug hole. This plug is drilled and tapped for two plugs. The whole thing looks like a Y before it is screwed into the head. Here's a link to a post on the "FORD BARN" site that shows a picture of this adapter: * * * *http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8860 * * * *Brett Phillips * *Strasburg, VA * *NX311GP * * *


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    Time: 03:32:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A ignition
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Hi Jeff, I weighed my Slick mag= about 5 lbs. if memory serves. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:59 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition > i need a battery already..... and planning on something as small as possibl e... ike the odyssey batteries.. so that is not a factor to me. i don't really see the dual point distributor as experimental exactly...and i'm ooking at a new mallory with mechanical advance or even the FSI electronic istributor....both work on a cars all day long.. like the points idea for the fact that points distributors usually don't j ust uit...they start acting up but don't just stop.. electronic on the other ha nd ust die. i believe the weight of the mallory is a lot less than a slick mag and the ount.. the battery already needed as a transponder is required here. the slick would probably last... hmm jeff ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342422#342422 -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 06:33:48 PM PST US
    From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Engine question
    Members: - I received a call today from a-local aviator who was at our EAA chapter m eeting and-heard I was searching for an engine to hang on my pietenpol. H e advised of a 0290 135hp Lycoming engine removed form a Tripacer that had been damaged. The engine has been rebuilt with 37 hours and then pickled. N ot sure what is missing but the majority is all their (might need a few ite ms). I have not seen the engine as I wanted to ask a few questions to the l ist. 1. Never heard of a Lycoming with fuel injection. Is this 0290 135 hp a goo d engine for a pietenpol? - 2. The engine has been rebuilt-with 37 hours total time; no logs. What ha s to be done since it is pickled to bring it back to life?- - 3.-Does anyone have time and/or history on this type of engine?-Good? B ad? or run as fast as-I can?-Can parts be easy to find? I need your help fellow pieters! - Ken


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    Time: 06:47:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine question
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Price? -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342465#342465


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    Time: 08:04:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: West Coast Gathering
    From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
    Hey Oscar! Are you gonna fly the direct route, or fly up through AZ and CA...following I-5? If so, I'd love it if you could stop in Fresno and let me buy you a $10 hamburger (when you are not actually flying to somewhere, a burger only costs $10 at the airport)... Be great to meet ya! Mark Roberts one side done almost nearly but not quite hardly On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I don't know what "unusual" means in California talk, but > I can tell you that we (my wife and I, in caravan) drove from > Tucson to Yuma to San Diego through El Cajon and then north > from San Diego to Oregon and it was one wild couple of days. > > Headwinds topped 50 MPH much of the time headed west, and even > after we turned north on I-5, winds were high and gusty. All > along the route, I kept wondering to myself if I would try to > fly Scout through that windy stuff and the answer kept coming > up, "NO!" > > Actually though, by the time we got up past Redding, it settled > down somewhat. Yeah, right ;o) Snow on the Castle Crags and > up on the higher peaks... rain and sleet down low. Visibilities > through the passes probably a couple hundred feet. Yeah... > me and Scout in that stuff-? Nah. Carb heat on full time, > watching one highway center stripe pass below us every 10 minutes > or so... stop for fuel every 2 hours or 5 miles, whichever would > come first ;o) > > I'll wait for the spring thaw and then I'll fly the airplane up > from Texas. That will be late summer in Texas, late spring up > here in the Siskiyous ;o) > > do not archive > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" > Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >


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    Time: 08:17:52 PM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: West Coast Gathering
    .then you can stop in Auburn, and I'll buy you another $10 hamburger! Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Gathering Hey Oscar! Are you gonna fly the direct route, or fly up through AZ and CA...following I-5? If so, I'd love it if you could stop in Fresno and let me buy you a $10 hamburger (when you are not actually flying to somewhere, a burger only costs $10 at the airport)... Be great to meet ya! Mark Roberts one side done almost nearly but not quite hardly On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: I don't know what "unusual" means in California talk, but I can tell you that we (my wife and I, in caravan) drove from Tucson to Yuma to San Diego through El Cajon and then north from San Diego to Oregon and it was one wild couple of days. Headwinds topped 50 MPH much of the time headed west, and even after we turned north on I-5, winds were high and gusty. All along the route, I kept wondering to myself if I would try to fly Scout through that windy stuff and the answer kept coming up, "NO!" Actually though, by the time we got up past Redding, it settled down somewhat. Yeah, right ;o) Snow on the Castle Crags and up on the higher peaks... rain and sleet down low. Visibilities through the passes probably a couple hundred feet. Yeah... me and Scout in that stuff-? Nah. Carb heat on full time, watching one highway center stripe pass below us every 10 minutes or so... stop for fuel every 2 hours or 5 miles, whichever would come first ;o) I'll wait for the spring thaw and then I'll fly the airplane up from Texas. That will be late summer in Texas, late spring up here in the Siskiyous ;o) do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==========


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    Time: 10:42:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: West Coast Gathering
    From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
    Geez...they SELL hamburgers in Auburn? I heard they just got telegraph service there last year, and the most modern aircraft is an all wood Pietenpol Aircamper... On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > =85then you can stop in Auburn, and I=92ll buy you another $10 hamburger ! > > > Gary > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Roberts > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:02 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Gathering > > > Hey Oscar! > > > Are you gonna fly the direct route, or fly up through AZ and CA...followi ng > I-5? If so, I'd love it if you could stop in Fresno and let me buy you a $10 > hamburger (when you are not actually flying to somewhere, a burger only > costs $10 at the airport)... > > > Be great to meet ya! > > > Mark Roberts > > one side done almost nearly but not quite hardly > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I don't know what "unusual" means in California talk, but > I can tell you that we (my wife and I, in caravan) drove from > Tucson to Yuma to San Diego through El Cajon and then north > from San Diego to Oregon and it was one wild couple of days. > > Headwinds topped 50 MPH much of the time headed west, and even > after we turned north on I-5, winds were high and gusty. All > along the route, I kept wondering to myself if I would try to > fly Scout through that windy stuff and the answer kept coming > up, "NO!" > > Actually though, by the time we got up past Redding, it settled > down somewhat. Yeah, right ;o) Snow on the Castle Crags and > up on the higher peaks... rain and sleet down low. Visibilities > through the passes probably a couple hundred feet. Yeah... > me and Scout in that stuff-? Nah. Carb heat on full time, > watching one highway center stripe pass below us every 10 minutes > or so... stop for fuel every 2 hours or 5 miles, whichever would > come first ;o) > > I'll wait for the spring thaw and then I'll fly the airplane up > from Texas. That will be late summer in Texas, late spring up > here in the Siskiyous ;o) > > do not archive > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" > Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >




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