---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/09/11: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:24 AM - Re: Engine question (Jack) 2. 06:20 AM - Re: A ignition (BYD) 3. 08:27 AM - flying from TX to OR (Oscar Zuniga) 4. 08:40 AM - Re: flying from TX to OR (Michael Groah) 5. 08:52 AM - Re: flying from TX to OR (Steve Ruse) 6. 08:58 AM - Re: flying from TX to OR (Isablcorky@aol.com) 7. 09:49 AM - Re: flying from TX to OR (V Groah) 8. 10:17 AM - Re: A ignition (shad bell) 9. 10:22 AM - Piet Fly By (K5YAC) 10. 10:27 AM - Re: flying from TX to OR (Gboothe5) 11. 10:39 AM - Re: flying from TX to OR (Isablcorky@aol.com) 12. 10:48 AM - Re: flying from TX to OR (Jim Boyer) 13. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: Engine question (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP) 14. 10:52 AM - Re: Piet Fly By (gcardinal@comcast.net) 15. 11:29 AM - Re: flying from TX to OR (mike Hardaway) 16. 11:38 AM - Long Way from Home (TOM STINEMETZE) 17. 03:57 PM - Re: flying from TX to OR (Ray Krause) 18. 04:06 PM - A little ways off topic... (Don Emch) 19. 04:12 PM - Re: A little ways off topic... (K5YAC) 20. 04:54 PM - Re: A little ways off topic... (Gboothe5) 21. 06:29 PM - Re: A little ways off topic... (kevinpurtee) 22. 06:31 PM - Re: A little ways off topic... (Jack Phillips) 23. 06:45 PM - Two Fuse Questions (lowell23@msn.com) 24. 06:49 PM - Re: A little ways off topic... (Dan Yocum) 25. 06:49 PM - Wrenches (amsafetyc@aol.com) 26. 06:52 PM - Re: A little ways off topic... (Don Emch) 27. 06:56 PM - Re: Two Fuse Questions (K5YAC) 28. 07:17 PM - Re: A little ways off topic... (John Hofmann) 29. 07:24 PM - Re: Two Fuse Questions (Bill Church) 30. 09:16 PM - Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Steve Ruse) 31. 09:53 PM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Andrew Eldredge) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:33 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine question Ken, I'm NOT an authority on engines but think Lycomings in general are more expensive to maintain. I will send you a name off list of a fantastic fellow that can answer all your questions. Jack DSM _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide CPO/FAAOP Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine question Members: I received a call today from a local aviator who was at our EAA chapter meeting and heard I was searching for an engine to hang on my pietenpol. He advised of a 0290 135hp Lycoming engine removed form a Tripacer that had been damaged. The engine has been rebuilt with 37 hours and then pickled. Not sure what is missing but the majority is all their (might need a few items). I have not seen the engine as I wanted to ask a few questions to the list. 1. Never heard of a Lycoming with fuel injection. Is this 0290 135 hp a good engine for a pietenpol? 2. The engine has been rebuilt with 37 hours total time; no logs. What has to be done since it is pickled to bring it back to life? 3. Does anyone have time and/or history on this type of engine? Good? Bad? or run as fast as I can? Can parts be easy to find? I need your help fellow pieters! Ken ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:19 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A ignition From: "BYD" the battery already needed as a transponder is required here. Jeff, Check the regs - if you don't have an electrical system, you're grandfathered in (like Cubs and Champs - assuming you're in the US). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342488#342488 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:38 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR Gary, Mark, and others- Yes, I'm considering flying the I-10 to I-5 route or some modification thereof (maybe follow the central valley rather than I-5 but have not hardened my travel plans yet. Our daughter lives in Fallbrook, CA (moving to Carlsbad, CA this summer) so I will more than likely make that the pivot point for my west-to-north turn in CA. Also got a good pilot buddy with a place in Joshua Tree, another up by Grass Valley, another in Hanford... so lots of places I'm going to try to hit on the way. And I like sliced jalapenos on my burgers. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:29 AM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR Definitely let us all know your plans when you get them worked out. I'm very close to Hanford and would love to come by and meet you if you stop in the area. Mike Groah Tulare CA Sent from my iPhone On Jun 9, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > > Gary, Mark, and others- > > Yes, I'm considering flying the I-10 to I-5 route or > some modification thereof (maybe follow the central valley > rather than I-5 but have not hardened my travel plans yet. > Our daughter lives in Fallbrook, CA (moving to Carlsbad, CA > this summer) so I will more than likely make that the pivot > point for my west-to-north turn in CA. Also got a good > pilot buddy with a place in Joshua Tree, another up by > Grass Valley, another in Hanford... so lots of places I'm > going to try to hit on the way. > > And I like sliced jalapenos on my burgers. > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" > Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:33 AM PST US From: Steve Ruse Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR Wow, I envy you for making that trip Oscar. I've flown my plane from Indiana to TX and OK to Oshkosh and back, and all over TX & OK & parts of Arkanas. Those long trips were REALLY a lot of fun, but there were no dramatic changes in scenery. I really want to fly the country from coast to coast or near that in my GN-1 one day. Going TX to Oregon, you'll get new and dramatically different scenery every day. Plains, deserts, mountains, hills, forests, lakes and rivers all in one trip....very neat. Take a good camera, and tell us about it. Steve Ruse Norma, OK do not archive Quoting Oscar Zuniga : > > > Gary, Mark, and others- > > Yes, I'm considering flying the I-10 to I-5 route or > some modification thereof (maybe follow the central valley > rather than I-5 but have not hardened my travel plans yet. > Our daughter lives in Fallbrook, CA (moving to Carlsbad, CA > this summer) so I will more than likely make that the pivot > point for my west-to-north turn in CA. Also got a good > pilot buddy with a place in Joshua Tree, another up by > Grass Valley, another in Hanford... so lots of places I'm > going to try to hit on the way. > > And I like sliced jalapenos on my burgers. > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" > Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:19 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR In a message dated 6/9/2011 10:28:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga Gary, Mark, and others- Yes, I'm considering flying the I-10 to I-5 route or some modification thereof (maybe follow the central valley rather than I-5 but have not hardened my travel plans yet. Our daughter lives in Fallbrook, CA (moving to Carlsbad, CA this summer) so I will more than likely make that the pivot point for my west-to-north turn in CA. Also got a good pilot buddy with a place in Joshua Tree, another up by Grass Valley, another in Hanford... so lots of places I'm going to try to hit on the way. And I like sliced jalapenos on my burgers. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) website at http://www.flysquirrel.net Be sure and have a full load of moth balls, empty gallon jugs as you will be flying over the Pecos, Rio Grande and Colorado Waters. CMC ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:09 AM PST US From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR Oscar Mike and I are just 25 miles east of Hanford and just 3 miles from the Tula re airport. Tulare is split in half by highway 99. We may be able to do b etter than burgers. My wife puts together a pretty good enchilada etc. We also have a spare bedroom for the night. I am originaly from Oregon and s till have a home there=2C but far north of your new home. Vic and Mike Groah N414MV starting on fabric. From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR In a message dated 6/9/2011 10:28:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time=2C taildrag s@hotmail.com writes: Gary=2C Mark=2C and others- Yes=2C I'm considering flying the I-10 to I-5 route or some modification thereof (maybe follow the central valley rather than I-5 but have not hardened my travel plans yet. Our daughter lives in Fallbrook=2C CA (moving to Carlsbad=2C CA this summer) so I will more than likely make that the pivot point for my west-to-north turn in CA. Also got a good pilot buddy with a place in Joshua Tree=2C another up by Grass Valley=2C another in Hanford... so lots of places I'm going to try to hit on the way. And I like sliced jalapenos on my burgers. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford=2C OR (soon to be Eagle Point=2C Oregon) website at http://www.flysquirrel.net se the ies a y - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Si te p=3B Be sure and have a full load of moth balls=2C empty gallon jugs as you will be flying over the Pecos=2C Rio Grande and Colorado Waters. CMC ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:44 AM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A ignition Charles, We installed one of Wynne's electronic distributers last year and like it.- It is a Crane Cams ignition module, and a regular set of points in a dual point distributer.- We fly on the electronic ignition, and the points are for back-up.- We test both before take off during the run up. - We had the regular dual points distributer before and pretty much did t he same thing.- - Shad ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet Fly By From: "K5YAC" Maybe this has been posted, but I haven't seen it. I'm somewhat embarrassed to say that I can't remember who's airplane this is, but it was shown in one of the new AirVenture 2011 promo videos. You can watch it here. http://www.eaavideo.org/channel.aspx?ch=ch_av_2011 -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342517#342517 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_963.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:02 AM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR Oscar, You will be truly missing out on an outstanding opportunity if you do not take advantage of Vic's offer!!! BTW, Grass Valley is just an hour north of me.surely we can get a $10 burger there, too! Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:47 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR Oscar Mike and I are just 25 miles east of Hanford and just 3 miles from the Tulare airport. Tulare is split in half by highway 99. We may be able to do better than burgers. My wife puts together a pretty good enchilada etc. We also have a spare bedroom for the night. I am originaly from Oregon and still have a home there, but far north of your new home. Vic and Mike Groah N414MV starting on fabric. _____ From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR In a message dated 6/9/2011 10:28:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: Gary, Mark, and others- Yes, I'm considering flying the I-10 to I-5 route or some modification thereof (maybe follow the central valley rather than I-5 but have not hardened my travel plans yet. Our daughter lives in Fallbrook, CA (moving to Carlsbad, CA this summer) so I will more than likely make that the pivot point for my west-to-north turn in CA. Also got a good pilot buddy with a place in Joshua Tree, another up by Grass Valley, another in Hanford... so lots of places I'm going to try to hit on the way. And I like sliced jalapenos on my burgers. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) website at http://www.flysquirrel.net se the ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site p; Be sure and have a full load of moth balls, empty gallon jugs as you will be flying over the Pecos, Rio Grande and Colorado Waters. CMC st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:03 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR In a message dated 6/9/2011 11:49:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, vgroah@hotmail.com writes: Oscar Mike and I are just 25 miles east of Hanford and just 3 miles from the Tulare airport. Tulare is split in half by highway 99. We may be able to do better than burgers. My wife puts together a pretty good enchilada etc. We also have a spare bedroom for the night. I am originaly from Oregon and still have a home there, but far north of your new home. Vic and Mike Groah N414MV starting on fabric. ____________________________________ From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR In a message dated 6/9/2011 10:28:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga Gary, Mark, and others- Yes, I'm considering flying the I-10 to I-5 route or some modification thereof (maybe follow the central valley rather than I-5 but have not hardened my travel plans yet. Our daughter lives in Fallbrook, CA (moving to Carlsbad, CA this summer) so I will more than likely make that the pivot point for my west-to-north turn in CA. Also got a good pilot buddy with a place in Joshua Tree, another up by Grass Valley, another in Hanford... so lots of places I'm going to try to hit on the way. And I like sliced jalapenos on my burgers. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) website at http://www.flysquirrel.net se the ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site p; Be sure and have a full load of moth balls, empty gallon jugs as you will be flying over the Pecos, Rio Grande and Colorado Waters. CMC st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) Correction???????????????? Ping Pong NOT Moth ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:48:46 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR Corky I thought that was just a comment on our damp spring we have been having here in No. Cal. Cheers, Jim B. do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:19 AM PST US From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine question Price $2800.00 - --- On Wed, 6/8/11, jarheadpilot82 wrote: From: jarheadpilot82 Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine question ail.com> Price? -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342465#342465 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:52:02 AM PST US From: gcardinal@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet Fly By I believe that is Tim Mickel. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: "K5YAC" Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2011 12:20:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet Fly By Maybe this has been posted, but I haven't seen it. =C2-I'm somewhat embar rassed to say that I can't remember who's airplane this is, but it was show n in one of the new AirVenture 2011 promo videos. =C2-You can watch it he re. =C2- http://www.eaavideo.org/channel.aspx?ch=ch_av_2011 -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342517#342517 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_963.jpg =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. =========== ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:45 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR From: mike Hardaway Oscar, Palomar airport, at Carlsbad, is where I soloed in 1967, way before I flew stuff with stars on the sides and way, way, before I discovered the joys of stick-and-rag Piets. Jalape=F1os grow by the trainload here in the central valley. ( http://ucanr.org/news/?uid=304&ds=191) Welcome home, Viejo. Mike Hardaway On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > > Gary, Mark, and others- > > Yes, I'm considering flying the I-10 to I-5 route or > some modification thereof (maybe follow the central valley > rather than I-5 but have not hardened my travel plans yet. > Our daughter lives in Fallbrook, CA (moving to Carlsbad, CA > this summer) so I will more than likely make that the pivot > point for my west-to-north turn in CA. Also got a good > pilot buddy with a place in Joshua Tree, another up by > Grass Valley, another in Hanford... so lots of places I'm > going to try to hit on the way. > > And I like sliced jalapenos on my burgers. > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" > Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > [snip] ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:38:59 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Long Way from Home Hey you guys. My wife and I are taking a 40th anniversary trip next week to the Bozeman, Montana region. Are there any Air Campers or Sky Scouts near there that I could go visit? My wife is pretty lenient about such things. Thanks, Tom Stinemetze N328X - finally up on gear ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:57:32 PM PST US From: "Ray Krause" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR Oscar, If you follow I-5 or 99, you can stop in Colusa (O08) for as long as you want. I have a hangar for your plane and a big house for your sleeping pleasure. From here it is off to Redding; Bend, Oregon, etc. Free food and lodging for you and your plane. Thanks and fly SAFELY, Ray Krause Waiex 51YX, Jabiru 3300 (1197), Sensenich wood prop, AeroCarb (#2 needle modified), Dynon D-180, Garmin SL 30 NavCom, Garmin 327 transponder, Garmin Aera 560, nav and strobe lights, Dynon 2 axis A/P: 246 hrs, slowly boiling Sky Scout. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying from TX to OR > > > Gary, Mark, and others- > > Yes, I'm considering flying the I-10 to I-5 route or > some modification thereof (maybe follow the central valley > rather than I-5 but have not hardened my travel plans yet. > Our daughter lives in Fallbrook, CA (moving to Carlsbad, CA > this summer) so I will more than likely make that the pivot > point for my west-to-north turn in CA. Also got a good > pilot buddy with a place in Joshua Tree, another up by > Grass Valley, another in Hanford... so lots of places I'm > going to try to hit on the way. > > And I like sliced jalapenos on my burgers. > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" > Medford, OR (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon) > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:06:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: A little ways off topic... From: "Don Emch" I don't mean to get anyone too bored but I thought I might post a couple of videos of our Chief that my dad and I recently restored. If you know my Piet you might recognize the fact that I had some left over dope. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wsbr18SbM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6pNXDWVIxw I can't believe Brodhead is 6 weeks away! Planning to take the Piet up! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342548#342548 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A little ways off topic... From: "K5YAC" Yep, that airplane is definitely related to 899DE. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342550#342550 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:54:13 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A little ways off topic... Very nice, Don! ...and a beautiful landing. I like the new tire sticker... Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: A little ways off topic... I don't mean to get anyone too bored but I thought I might post a couple of videos of our Chief that my dad and I recently restored. If you know my Piet you might recognize the fact that I had some left over dope. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wsbr18SbM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6pNXDWVIxw I can't believe Brodhead is 6 weeks away! Planning to take the Piet up! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342548#342548 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:59 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A little ways off topic... From: "kevinpurtee" Congratulations, Don. Beautiful airplane. Looking forward to photographing Fat Bottomed Girl next to her older sister at Brodhead. do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342559#342559 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:31:53 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A little ways off topic... Looks good, Don! I must admit, I'm somewhat partial to green and cream colored airplanes. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: A little ways off topic... I don't mean to get anyone too bored but I thought I might post a couple of videos of our Chief that my dad and I recently restored. If you know my Piet you might recognize the fact that I had some left over dope. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wsbr18SbM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6pNXDWVIxw I can't believe Brodhead is 6 weeks away! Planning to take the Piet up! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342548#342548 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:58 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Two Fuse Questions From: "lowell23@msn.com" Hi All, I've got my longerons and struts/braces #13, 14, and 15 in the jig, and I also have a couple of questions. Since there will be gussets on both sides, is there much benefit to glueing the butt joints? Also, I see that struts/braces 2 through 6 are made with 7/8" by 1" - yes, it would be a bit heavier, but would it be OK to make them with 1" by 1"? Thank you very much! Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342561#342561 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A little ways off topic... From: Dan Yocum Beautiful. Simply beautiful. -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:03 PM, "Don Emch" wrote: > > I don't mean to get anyone too bored but I thought I might post a couple of videos of our Chief that my dad and I recently restored. If you know my Piet you might recognize the fact that I had some left over dope. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wsbr18SbM > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6pNXDWVIxw > > I can't believe Brodhead is 6 weeks away! Planning to take the Piet up! > > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342548#342548 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:48 PM PST US From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wrenches I am in the process of accumulating engine parts and rebuild bits. I am in need of a set of cylender base wrenches for the Lycoming 0235 Does anyone have a set they would be willing to sell or loan out to me or knows where I can acquire them. Please contact me off list or by phone 215 208 8309 thanks John Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:09 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A little ways off topic... From: "Don Emch" Sounds good to me Axel! Jack I kinda like the combination too, but I think I might have worn it out now! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342562#342562 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Fuse Questions From: "K5YAC" I glued my gussets in place, but did not glue the butt joints. I doubt that it would add much to the structure. As for the 1" x 1"... I can't see where it would interfere with anything... perhaps someone else may shed some light on any possible issues. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342565#342565 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:26 PM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A little ways off topic... Beautiful Don. Really Nice. I bet Jack likes the colors too. -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Don Emch wrote: > > I don't mean to get anyone too bored but I thought I might post a couple of videos of our Chief that my dad and I recently restored. If you know my Piet you might recognize the fact that I had some left over dope. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wsbr18SbM > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6pNXDWVIxw > > I can't believe Brodhead is 6 weeks away! Planning to take the Piet up! > > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342548#342548 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:59 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Two Fuse Questions From: "Bill Church" I have glued my butt joints whenever feasible, simply because more bonding is better. But realistically speaking, there is minimal strength to be gained in the process. The bulk of the strength will be carried by the gusset joints. When you do glue the gussets in place, make sure you get full adhesive contact between the gusset and the longerons/cross pieces. As for substituting 1" x 1" for the 7/8" x 1", my question would be why do you want to do that? It will be a little bit stronger and heavier, but the added strength is unnecessary, and so is the weight. If it didn't make any difference, then those pieces would be 1" x 1" in the plans. The load carried by that section of the structure is a bit less, so the cross pieces can be made smaller. Because extra weight (especially in the tail) is a no-no in building an aircraft, it should be avoided whenever possible. Your plane will still fly if you just use the 1" x 1", but it will fly BETTER if you follow the plans. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342568#342568 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:06 PM PST US From: "Steve Ruse" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? ...because I might need to do that soon. :-) Sunday evening my wife and I took our five week old daughter (our first child) up for her first flight (in a Grumman, not the Piet). I've had my five year old nephew in the Piet and the harness wasn't near tight enough, so we taxied around for a while which he enjoyed. I hate to have to wait 7 or 8 years to put my little girl to fit in the GN-1, so I'm wondering if a car seat will fit up front. I'm also wondering if we have enough pillows that I could just stuff those around her and keep her from banging around too much. Also, if I do pull that off, I need suggestions on (#1) how to get my wife to let me back in the house and (#2) how to get her to ever leave me alone with the kid again. :) When my daughter was 9 days old she and I made my traditional weekly Saturday morning donut delivery to the pilot lounge at 1k4 (David Jay Perry airport in Goldsby, OK). However, we took the Saturn, rather than the GN-1 which is how I usually deliver the donuts. Being a Dad sure is fun, but I don't know how you other parents have time to build airplanes. I'm trying to figure out how to wean myself off sleep entirely. Here are some pictures from Sunday: http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace1.jpg http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace2.jpg http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace3.jpg Steve Ruse Norman, OK Do not archive ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 09:53:36 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? From: Andrew Eldredge The youngest I've taken was my son at almost 3 years old. The booster seat fit just fine. My wife was concerned that a kid could unbuckle themselves and leap out of the pit without me able to do much about it. Andrew Eldredge On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Ruse wrote: > steve@wotelectronics.com> > > ...because I might need to do that soon. :-) > > Sunday evening my wife and I took our five week old daughter (our first > child) up for her first flight (in a Grumman, not the Piet). I've had my > five year old nephew in the Piet and the harness wasn't near tight enough, > so we taxied around for a while which he enjoyed. I hate to have to wait 7 > or 8 years to put my little girl to fit in the GN-1, so I'm wondering if a > car seat will fit up front. I'm also wondering if we have enough pillows > that I could just stuff those around her and keep her from banging around > too much. > > Also, if I do pull that off, I need suggestions on (#1) how to get my wife > to let me back in the house and (#2) how to get her to ever leave me alone > with the kid again. :) > > When my daughter was 9 days old she and I made my traditional weekly > Saturday morning donut delivery to the pilot lounge at 1k4 (David Jay Perry > airport in Goldsby, OK). However, we took the Saturn, rather than the GN-1 > which is how I usually deliver the donuts. > > Being a Dad sure is fun, but I don't know how you other parents have time > to build airplanes. I'm trying to figure out how to wean myself off sleep > entirely. > > Here are some pictures from Sunday: > http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace1.jpg > http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace2.jpg > http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace3.jpg > > Steve Ruse > Norman, OK > > Do not archive > > -- Andrew Eldredge Provo, UT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.