Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 06/11/11


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:18 AM - Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia! (bubbleboy)
     2. 04:31 AM - Re: Re: prop (Ryan Mueller)
     3. 05:40 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia! (Jack Phillips)
     4. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia! (Jim Markle)
     5. 08:12 AM - Re: prop (Charles Campbell)
     6. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Charles Campbell)
     7. 08:21 AM - Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia! (Bill Church)
     8. 08:59 AM - Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 update (shad bell)
     9. 09:25 AM - Re: prop (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
    10. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: prop (helspersew@aol.com)
    11. 02:19 PM - Re: prop (Ryan Mueller)
    12. 03:15 PM - Re: prop (jarheadpilot82)
    13. 03:45 PM - Re: prop (airlion)
    14. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: prop (helspersew@aol.com)
    15. 04:57 PM - Re: Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts (Michael Perez)
    16. 05:16 PM - Aluminum struts- sort of related to Mike's post (helspersew@aol.com)
    17. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Gathering (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    18. 05:40 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Gathering (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    19. 08:09 PM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Dan Yocum)
    20. 08:49 PM - AeroInject (aka AeroCarb) on a Continental? (Dan Yocum)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:18:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia!
    From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
    With camera in hand I went and had a look at the Pietenpol Scout living in the next suburb from me! It has a Salmson AD9 9 cylinder radial engine. If its of any interest I have some more pics but wont load them up if no one wants. -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 26 Ribs built... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342710#342710 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1328_640x480_206.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1304_640x480_111.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1298_640x480_550.jpg


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    Time: 04:31:58 AM PST US
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: prop
    I'm on my way to O'Hare at the moment, so I'll look this up once I get to the hotel at my destination; if I recall, WW addressed this in a post on the Corvaircraft list a number of years back. The applicable crux of it was that for an airplane at Piet speeds. A three bladed Warp Drive will weigh more, cost more, and not perform as well. As I said, I'll look the post up later...otherwise, Gardiner, I would suggest calling William directly. Have a good one, Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net> wrote: > > Based on the fact that you have 50% more blades with 3 vs. 2, I'd say 50% more thrust and 50% more speed! There won't be another Piet that could keep up with you. ;) > > do not archive > > -------- > Billy McCaskill > Urbana, IL > tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342701#342701 > >


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    Time: 05:40:03 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia!
    Very cool! I always thought that engine looked like a little jewel. There's an E-2 Cub at Brodhead with one of those engines on it. Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 7:16 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia! <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> With camera in hand I went and had a look at the Pietenpol Scout living in the next suburb from me! It has a Salmson AD9 9 cylinder radial engine. If its of any interest I have some more pics but wont load them up if no one wants. -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 26 Ribs built... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342710#342710 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1328_640x480_206.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1304_640x480_111.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1298_640x480_550.jpg


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    Time: 06:21:28 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia!
    Agree with Jack. Very cool. And Scotty, if you happen to make it back down there, please get some pictures of that step if you don't mind. Looks like it has a flap and I would love to know it's inner workings. How the flap was made,,,,how and if it "retracts" when you step into it, etc. And thanks for the pics! Jim -----Original Message----- >From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> >Sent: Jun 11, 2011 8:37 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia! > > >Very cool! I always thought that engine looked like a little jewel. >There's an E-2 Cub at Brodhead with one of those engines on it. > >Jack Phillips >NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" >Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy >Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 7:16 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia! > ><scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> > >With camera in hand I went and had a look at the Pietenpol Scout living in >the next suburb from me! It has a Salmson AD9 9 cylinder radial engine. If >its of any interest I have some more pics but wont load them up if no one >wants. > >-------- >Scotty > >Tamworth, Australia >Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper > >www.scottyspietenpol.com > >Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and 26 Ribs built... > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342710#342710 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1328_640x480_206.jpg >http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1304_640x480_111.jpg >http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1298_640x480_550.jpg > >


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    Time: 08:12:14 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: prop
    It's my understanding that the only reason the designers of a airplane stipulate a 3- or 4-bladed prop is that the ground clearance is not sufficient for a 2-bladed prop. In fact there was a lot or research done in the 40's and 50's (I think) on a single-bladed prop to try to get better efficiency. It didn't work out probably because of an unbalance situation. The more blades rotating in disturbed air the less efficient the prop. So putting a 3-blade prop on your Piet would probably reduce the performance. As one on the list says, "My 2 cents." ----- Original Message ----- From: "airlion" <airlion@bellsouth.net> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop > > Right now I have a 2 blade warp drive on my corvair powered pietenpol. > What kind > of performance would I get with a 3 blade prop? Gardiner > > >


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    Time: 08:18:56 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory!
    I was referring to a wing that spins horizontally -- commonly called a helicopter! ----- Original Message ----- From: Clif Dawson To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! You mean like these? http://www.pilotfriend.com/photo_albums/potty/2.htm http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/15/spinning-wing-airliner/ Have you never spun a ruler? I had a link for a wing based on that but it's not there any more. ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Campbell To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! Watch that! Them spinning wings is fun! ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Mueller To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! Not nearly as goofy as flying with a wing that spins.... ;-) Ryan do not archive On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:05 AM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote: <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> It's gonna fly funny with the wing oriented like that... Nice job! do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342626#342626 ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06/10/11


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    Time: 08:21:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Scout discovery in Australia!
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Scotty, Sure, if you have more photos, please post them. Very interesting looking plane, with an interesting engine. Here's a link to a photo of what the Salmson could look like if it were cleaned up. http://skagitaero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/DSC_0018.jpg Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342718#342718


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    Time: 08:59:44 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Ohio Pietenpol Gathering june 18 update
    I just remembered, I need to let the people flying in for the Piet gatherin g, the identifier has changed here.- On old sectionals (not that anyone w ould ever use one of those!) it was OH71, now it should be marked as OH0(os car-hotel-zero), which is the dumbest ident I can think of, an o and a zero in the same 3 character ident?- And it is supposed- to be changed agai n sometime in the near future to 6CM, but probably not before the fly-in. - So look for Chapman Memorial Field, in Centerburg Ohio, fss will probab ly still have it as OH0. - 1 week left, Shad


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    Time: 09:25:08 AM PST US
    From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: prop
    Charles, - Much agreed. When speaking with the manufacturer (Warp Drive) I discussed m any of the same issues between two blade verses three blade. The overall ou t come of the conversation - if you want a smoother prop and a quiet prop, three blade is your answer. The tractor cut through the air is more efficen t with a two blade prop than a three blade prop. However, even based on the adjustable pitch you get a some differences but more on the smoothness tha n bite through the air. - Also, in my experiences between using the three blade verses the two blade, the three blade prop acts much like and air brake when you throttle back s o make sure you are over the fence line as it will decrease your speed in a hurry. My .02 cents worth.... KMHeide - --- On Sat, 6/11/11, Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote: From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop ream.net> It's my understanding that the only reason the designers of a airplane stip ulate a 3- or 4-bladed prop is that the ground clearance is not sufficient for a 2-bladed prop.- In fact there was a lot or research done in the 40' s and 50's (I think) on a single-bladed prop to try to get better efficienc y.- It didn't work out probably because of an unbalance situation. The mo re blades rotating in disturbed air the less efficient the prop.- So putt ing a 3-blade prop on your Piet would probably reduce the performance. As o ne on the list says, "My 2 cents." ----- Original Message ----- From: "airlion" <airlion@bellsouth.net> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop > > Right now I have a 2 blade warp drive on my corvair powered pietenpol. Wh at kind > of performance would I get with a 3 blade prop?- Gardiner > > > > > le, List Admin.


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    Time: 10:45:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: prop
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    When I get caught-up with everything else that is essential (who knows when that will be) I wanted to attempt to carve a four-bladed prop just for fun . I actually got the idea from reading a book that I've had since I was a t een "Aircraft of World War One", by Kenneth Munson. It is simply a book tha t takes one page each to show (photo) and describe one of the numerous type s, with stats, that was utilized during that era. Recently, I have been re- reading this book, and taking note of some cool-looking types with 4-bladed props, such as Airco D.H.4, Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2, and Siemems-Schu cert D.III, just to name a few. There is probably a good reason that these props did not endure, but I thought it would be fun just the same. It would definitely be unique at Brodhead, that's for sure. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:32 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: prop I'm on my way to O'Hare at the moment, so I'll look this up once I get o the hotel at my destination; if I recall, WW addressed this in a ost on the Corvaircraft list a number of years back. The applicable rux of it was that for an airplane at Piet speeds. A three bladed arp Drive will weigh more, cost more, and not perform as well. As I aid, I'll look the post up later...otherwise, Gardiner, I would uggest calling William directly. Have a good one, Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net> wrote: Based on the fact that you have 50% more blades with 3 vs. 2, I'd say 50% more hrust and 50% more speed! There won't be another Piet that could keep up w ith ou. ;) do not archive -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342701#342701 -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 02:19:00 PM PST US
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: prop
    An excerpt from a post William just put up on the Corvaircraft list: "BTW, I am willing to bet that no direct drive corvair will ever perform better with a three blade than a two blade prop. A number of people have asked about this reciently. The primary thing people in light aircraft are seeking with 3 blade props is smoothness out of a for cylinder engine. Since we already have smoothness, there is nothing to be gained, so keep looking at two blades for performance. Notice that Glassair IIIs with six cylinder 540cid Lycomings always have two blade props, but the Galssair IIs with 360 cid four cylinder engines mostly have three blades. Smoothness vs performance." Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:27 AM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> wrote: Charles, Much agreed. When speaking with the manufacturer (Warp Drive) I discussed many of the same issues between two blade verses three blade. The overall out come of the conversation - if you want a smoother prop and a quiet prop, three blade is your answer. The tractor cut through the air is more efficent with a two blade prop than a three blade prop. However, even based on the adjustable pitch you get a some differences but more on the smoothness than bite through the air. Also, in my experiences between using the three blade verses the two blade, the three blade prop acts much like and air brake when you throttle back so make sure you are over the fence line as it will decrease your speed in a hurry. My .02 cents worth.... KMHeide * * ** --- On *Sat, 6/11/11, Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>* wrote: From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop cncampbell@windstream.net<http://us.mc1615.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cncampbell@windstream.net> > It's my understanding that the only reason the designers of a airplane stipulate a 3- or 4-bladed prop is that the ground clearance is not sufficient for a 2-bladed prop. In fact there was a lot or research done in the 40's and 50's (I think) on a single-bladed prop to try to get better efficiency. It didn't work out probably because of an unbalance situation. The more blades rotating in disturbed air the less efficient the prop. So putting a 3-blade prop on your Piet would probably reduce the performance. As one on the list says, "My 2 cents." ----- Original Message ----- From: "airlion" <airlion@bellsouth.net<http://us.mc1615.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=airlion@bellsouth.net> > > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop > > > Right now I have a 2 blade warp drive on my corvair powered pietenpol. What kind > of performance would I get with a 3 blade prop? Gardiner > > matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronic; --> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> * *


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    Time: 03:15:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: prop
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    For Dan, Here is a photo of a four bladed prop on a Vickers Vimy. It is from a recent visit to the RAF Museum in London. It is a beautifully carved prop, so maybe it will motivate you. I would love to see it if you ever decide to do one. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342745#342745 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0508_843.jpg


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    Time: 03:45:52 PM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: prop
    Thanks for all the inputs. 3 Blades sure do look good though. Gardiner ________________________________ From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 5:16:33 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop An excerpt from a post William just put up on the Corvaircraft list: "BTW, I am willing to bet that no direct drive corvair will ever perform better with a three blade than a two blade prop. A number of people have asked about this reciently. The primary thing people in light aircraft are seeking with 3 blade props is smoothness out of a for cylinder engine. Since we already have smoothness, there is nothing to be gained, so keep looking at two blades for performance. Notice that Glassair IIIs with six cylinder 540cid Lycomings always have two blade props, but the Galssair IIs with 360 cid four cylinder engines mostly have three blades. Smoothness vs performance." Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:27 AM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> wrote: Charles, > >Much agreed. When speaking with the manufacturer (Warp Drive) I discussed many >of the same issues between two blade verses three blade. The overall out come of >the conversation - if you want a smoother prop and a quiet prop, three blade is >your answer. The tractor cut through the air is more efficent with a two blade >prop than a three blade prop. However, even based on the adjustable pitch you >get a some differences but more on the smoothness than bite through the air. > > >Also, in my experiences between using the three blade verses the two blade, the >three blade prop acts much like and air brake when you throttle back so make >sure you are over the fence line as it will decrease your speed in a hurry. My >.02 cents worth.... > >KMHeide > > >--- On Sat, 6/11/11, Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net> wrote: > > >>From: Charles Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net> >>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 10:09 AM >> >> >><cncampbell@windstream.net> >> >>It's my understanding that the only reason the designers of a airplane stipulate >>a 3- or 4-bladed prop is that the ground clearance is not sufficient for a >>2-bladed prop. In fact there was a lot or research done in the 40's and 50's (I >>think) on a single-bladed prop to try to get better efficiency. It didn't work >>out probably because of an unbalance situation. The more blades rotating in >>disturbed air the less efficient the prop. So putting a 3-blade prop on your >>Piet would probably reduce the performance. As one on the list says, "My 2 >>cents." >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "airlion" <airlion@bellsouth.net> >>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:42 PM >>Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop >> >> >>> >>> Right now I have a 2 blade warp drive on my corvair powered pietenpol. What >>>kind >>> of performance would I get with a 3 blade prop? Gardiner >>> >>> >>> >>matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronic; >> --> >> >> >> >> > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >rums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >"http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >


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    Time: 04:56:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: prop
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Wow Terry, That is one gorgeous prop. If I ever get around to it, I'll for sure try to make it to Brodhead, God willing. This is just a dream at this point., but then again my whole airplane was just a dream also............. ... Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:15 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: prop ail.com> For Dan, Here is a photo of a four bladed prop on a Vickers Vimy. It is from a recen t isit to the RAF Museum in London. It is a beautifully carved prop, so maybe it will motivate you. I would lov e to ee it if you ever decide to do one. -------- emper Fi, Terry ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342745#342745 ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0508_843.jpg -======================== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 04:57:33 PM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts
    Understood. I would assume then that drilling a hole through the stru for an eye bolt is not a good idea either? If true, then I will try making staps to wrap around the strut to attach the jury to. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 05:16:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Aluminum struts- sort of related to Mike's post
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Here are a couple of photos I found of my AL struts. Thought I would throw them out there in case they might help somebody. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:57 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts et> Understood. I would assume then that drilling a hole through the stru for a n eye olt is not a good idea either? If true, then I will try making staps to wra p round the strut to attach the jury to. Michael Perez aretaker Aero ww.karetakeraero.com -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 05:34:40 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: West Coast Gathering
    Hey Guys, I just got back from LA last night and headed back out on Tuesday to Tulsa. While in LA I got a chance to Meet Scott Liefeld, Nice guy been Pieter since 1992. We hung out over lunch on Wednesday he was nice enough to share his build book from he and his dad in 1992 and the rebuild. Nice guy , great pics. He's been a Pieter for quite some time and just discovered the board, I had a great trip and a real pleasure meting and talking Piet with him. If you get into LA and would really like to have a nice meting with a serious Piet guy get in touch with Scott. You will be glad you did. Scott, thanks for the hospitality and the tour. I really enjoyed it. I only wish a had a magnet in my pocket. BTW we toured Scots work place, its a Piet builders dream to spend a month there building Piet Parts. John Do not archive, less you're going to LA


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    Time: 05:40:55 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: West Coast Gathering
    I am hoping to meet up with Gary and others perhaps in Sacramento on Monday the 20th that should be another enjoyable meeting. John Do not archive, less you're planning to give me money or beer


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    Time: 08:09:53 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory!
    That's one handsome fellow. And he's got a great first name! ;-) Say, where did you get that spiffy helmet? I don't like mine very much - it sits too high on my head and isn't snug around my forehead. Thanks, Dan On 06/10/2011 07:15 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > This guy's shoulders are quite low in the fuse also. I know this guy. He > build his airplane /per plans/, like Bernerd intended. > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> > To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Fri, Jun 10, 2011 1:14 pm > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>> > > Chuck, > > Did you drop the seat or raise the fuselage sides or is it just a trick > of the camera? Your shoulders are below the top of the turtledeck... > > Dan > > > On 06/10/2011 10:36 AM, cjborsuk wrote: >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "cjborsuk"<cjborsuk@yahoo.com <mailto:cjborsuk@yahoo.com>> >> >> Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for all > the great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods > received. I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch of > great people. I could not do this without this resource and of course > WestCoastPiet.com. >> >> Chuck (in Raleigh) >> 989CB >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342618#342618 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse_6_9_11_small_806.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse_6_9_11_small9_946.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse_6_9_11_small4_103.jpg > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>,http://fermigrid.fnal.gov <http://fermigrid.fnal.gov/> > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > p://forums.matronics.com > blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 08:49:17 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: AeroInject (aka AeroCarb) on a Continental?
    Does anyone have any experience with an AeroInjector on a Continental engine? Thanks, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."




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