---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/14/11: 35 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:22 AM - Re: Seat back question (tdudley@umn.edu) 2. 08:10 AM - Re: Seat back question (Gene Rambo) 3. 09:03 AM - Re: Seat back question (Michael Perez) 4. 11:03 AM - Project for sale, $5,000 or will part out (olflyr45) 5. 11:12 AM - Re: prop (olflyr45) 6. 12:59 PM - Cables; control and brace (Jim Boyer) 7. 02:14 PM - Local builders southern California (mark lee) 8. 02:22 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Ben Charvet) 9. 02:34 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (mark lee) 10. 02:38 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Jack Phillips) 11. 02:44 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Jack Phillips) 12. 02:49 PM - Re: Local builders southern California (Dave Abramson) 13. 03:50 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Jim Boyer) 14. 03:52 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Jim Boyer) 15. 03:53 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Ben Charvet) 16. 04:15 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (shad bell) 17. 04:42 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Michael Perez) 18. 04:43 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Michael Perez) 19. 04:48 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (kevinpurtee) 20. 05:14 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Gboothe5) 21. 07:30 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Greg Cardinal) 22. 08:02 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Clif Dawson) 23. 08:08 PM - Re: Project for sale, $5,000 or will part out (tdudley@umn.edu) 24. 08:21 PM - Re: Local builders southern California (Gboothe5) 25. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: Project for sale, $5,000 or will part out (Greg Cardinal) 26. 09:11 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Jim Boyer) 27. 09:13 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Jim Boyer) 28. 09:17 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Jim Boyer) 29. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: Cables; control and brace (Jim Boyer) 30. 09:25 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Jim Boyer) 31. 09:36 PM - Re: Cables; control and brace (Jim Boyer) 32. 10:03 PM - Piet fly-in at Centerburg (shad bell) 33. 11:14 PM - Re: Local builders southern California (Mark Roberts) 34. 11:15 PM - Re: Local builders southern California (mark lee) 35. 11:19 PM - Re: Seat back question (Mark Roberts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Seat back question From: "tdudley@umn.edu" Oscar, Thanks for your suggestions and the link to your site. Your rebuild was well-detailed and helpful. Now, not trying to beat the horse any more dead, but my final question on the subject regarding expanding the rudder pedal openings--- higher, wider, or both? I've read recommendations for both which is what I am planning on, but it'd be nice to know for certain before putting a blade to the plywood. Tom Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342934#342934 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:03 AM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Seat back question you may not have to notch the diagonal. Attach the front/rear interconnect bar to the left side of the rear stick and the right side of the front (or vice-versa) and it should clear=2C mine did! Gene > From: taildrags@hotmail.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seat back question > Date: Mon=2C 13 Jun 2011 22:33:05 -0500 > > > > > Tom=3B > > Couple of points regarding the seat back question. One=2C I > concur with others who have recommended that you open up the > leg holes (make them taller). It really helps when you're > climbing in with anything other than bare feet. Two=2C it's easy > to add a padded back to the seat... I've done it on my Piet. > Three=2C you'll find that you'll probably have to make a notch > in the diagonal upright on the port side=2C to clear the bar that > links the front and rear control sticks when the stick is hard > over to port. > > All of these details can be seen on a webpage that I put up > to describe the repair and rebuild of the front seat and > framing on my Piet=2C here: > > http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/seat.html > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" > Medford=2C OR (soon to be Eagle Point=2C Oregon) > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:03 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Seat back question Or, if the sticks are not made yet, weld tabs center-line on both sticks and fit the connecting tube between them. This will also give you equal stick throw left and right. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:03:05 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Project for sale, $5,000 or will part out From: "olflyr45" Built in 2002 and has flown about 200 hours. No engine. Has a mount for a Continental A or C series or an O-200. Needs some rib repair in the left wing. I would strip the whole airplane and recover it just to see everything. Currently disassembled for trailering. If you're planning to build one here is a way to get flying two or three years sooner. Also have a mid time A-65 which would be an ideal unit for it. ($3,500). Reply to wyliejohnson45@gmail.com and I'll send pictures. Located in Knoxville TN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342958#342958 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:18 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: prop From: "olflyr45" Remember, you don't get something for nothing. If your 2 blade is absorbing all the horsepower the Corvair can produce you will actually lose performance due to the additional parasite drag of that 3rd blade. Possible benefits: The blades can be shorter and increase ground clearance. Reduced tip speeds from the smaller diameter can reduce the noise. You can let it turn a little faster and maybe gain some horsepower. It might help takeoff and climb but not likely to do any good at cruise. Higher fuel burn if you do that. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342960#342960 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:58 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Just starting to make up all the tail brace and control cables for my Piet and have a couple of questions. Where the cable joins the turnbuckle are you using a cable loop or a pin en d to couple to the cable? Or a cable shackle? There is all kinds of informa tion on how to safety the turnbuckles and make cable eyes but not on joinin g the two. It would be nice if the thimble/cable end could be made up through the turn buckle end; it would save on some expensive hardware. Anybody have=C2- pi ctures of cable/turnbuckle couplings? Appreciate your help. Jim Boyer ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California From: mark lee Looking for any builders around Moopark,Camarillo.Ventura California.--- Do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:13 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace I just looped my cables through the end of the turnbuckle. Those shackles cost as much as a turnbuckle! Ben On 6/14/2011 3:57 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: > > Just starting to make up all the tail brace and control cables for my > Piet and have a couple of questions. > > Where the cable joins the turnbuckle are you using a cable loop or a > pin end to couple to the cable? Or a cable shackle? There is all kinds > of information on how to safety the turnbuckles and make cable eyes > but not on joining the two. > > It would be nice if the thimble/cable end could be made up through the > turnbuckle end; it would save on some expensive hardware. Anybody > have pictures of cable/turnbuckle couplings? > > Appreciate your help. > > Jim Boyer > > > * > > > * -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace From: mark lee Ben if you have time could you put up a pic. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Ben Charvet wrote: > I just looped my cables through the end of the turnbuckle. Those shackles > cost as much as a turnbuckle! > > Ben > > On 6/14/2011 3:57 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: > > Just starting to make up all the tail brace and control cables for my > Piet and have a couple of questions. > > Where the cable joins the turnbuckle are you using a cable loop or a pin > end to couple to the cable? Or a cable shackle? There is all kinds of > information on how to safety the turnbuckles and make cable eyes but not on > joining the two. > > It would be nice if the thimble/cable end could be made up through the > turnbuckle end; it would save on some expensive hardware. Anybody have > pictures of cable/turnbuckle couplings? > > Appreciate your help. > > Jim Boyer > > > * > > * > > > -- > Ben Charvet, PharmD > Staff Pharmacist > Parrish Medical center > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:38:16 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace I did the same as Ben Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace I just looped my cables through the end of the turnbuckle. Those shackles cost as much as a turnbuckle! Ben On 6/14/2011 3:57 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: Just starting to make up all the tail brace and control cables for my Piet and have a couple of questions. Where the cable joins the turnbuckle are you using a cable loop or a pin end to couple to the cable? Or a cable shackle? There is all kinds of information on how to safety the turnbuckles and make cable eyes but not on joining the two. It would be nice if the thimble/cable end could be made up through the turnbuckle end; it would save on some expensive hardware. Anybody have pictures of cable/turnbuckle couplings? Appreciate your help. Jim Boyer -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:27 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Here's a picture: Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace I did the same as Ben Jack Phillips NX899JP "Icarus Plummet" Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace I just looped my cables through the end of the turnbuckle. Those shackles cost as much as a turnbuckle! Ben On 6/14/2011 3:57 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: Just starting to make up all the tail brace and control cables for my Piet and have a couple of questions. Where the cable joins the turnbuckle are you using a cable loop or a pin end to couple to the cable? Or a cable shackle? There is all kinds of information on how to safety the turnbuckles and make cable eyes but not on joining the two. It would be nice if the thimble/cable end could be made up through the turnbuckle end; it would save on some expensive hardware. Anybody have pictures of cable/turnbuckle couplings? Appreciate your help. Jim Boyer -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:49:31 PM PST US From: "Dave Abramson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California Hi Mark! I am building at the Santa Maria Airport! Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of mark lee Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:12 PM To: pietenpol-list Subject: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California Looking for any builders around Moopark,Camarillo.Ventura California.--- Do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:02 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Hi Ben, Thanks for the way you did it. I was not wanting to buy all the cable shackles it would take. Turnbuckles are high enough priced. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:52:42 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Hi Jack, Thanks for the great picture. I was not sure the thimble would fit through the turnbuckle eye but it sure does. I was adding up the cost of the cable shackles I would need for all the connections last night and could feel my billfold shrink. The web site is great; thanks again. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:53:57 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Mine look just like Jack's... My first trip to Brodhead in 2008 I spent all day Saturday taking picture of airplanes to get ideas like that. Ben On 6/14/2011 5:32 PM, mark lee wrote: > Ben if you have time could you put up a pic. > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Ben Charvet > wrote: > > I just looped my cables through the end of the turnbuckle. Those > shackles cost as much as a turnbuckle! > > Ben > > On 6/14/2011 3:57 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: >> >> Just starting to make up all the tail brace and control cables >> for my Piet and have a couple of questions. >> >> Where the cable joins the turnbuckle are you using a cable loop >> or a pin end to couple to the cable? Or a cable shackle? There is >> all kinds of information on how to safety the turnbuckles and >> make cable eyes but not on joining the two. >> >> It would be nice if the thimble/cable end could be made up >> through the turnbuckle end; it would save on some expensive >> hardware. Anybody have pictures of cable/turnbuckle couplings? >> >> Appreciate your help. >> >> Jim Boyer >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > > > -- > Ben Charvet, PharmD > Staff Pharmacist > Parrish Medical center > > * > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > > * -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:18 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Motercycle chain links work good (in some instances) in place of cable shac kles, most hardware stores carry some kind of industrial chain.- Or you c ould simply make them out of .065, or .090 4130 sheet. - Just 2 cents worth Shad don't archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:25 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Another alternative...swage on fittings. First one is the completed cabel, second...the individual pieces. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:24 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace By the way, not too clear in the photos, all end fittings are forks. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cables; control and brace From: "kevinpurtee" And to add to Shad's comment: if you safety wire the motorcycle link it keeps the IAs happy. They don't even pause when they see it. -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342987#342987 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:47 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Jim, Here=99s how I=99m doing the other end. I have since re-shaped the =98shackles=99 to a more slender look. Thimble wrapping.jpg Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Just starting to make up all the tail brace and control cables for my Piet and have a couple of questions. Where the cable joins the turnbuckle are you using a cable loop or a pin end to couple to the cable? Or a cable shackle? There is all kinds of information on how to safety the turnbuckles and make cable eyes but not on joining the two. It would be nice if the thimble/cable end could be made up through the turnbuckle end; it would save on some expensive hardware. Anybody have pictures of cable/turnbuckle couplings? Appreciate your help. 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Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: shad bell To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:12 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Motercycle chain links work good (in some instances) in place of cable shackles, most hardware stores carry some kind of industrial chain. Or you could simply make them out of .065, or .090 4130 sheet. Just 2 cents worth Shad don't archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:41 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Here's a couple of mine. ----- Original Message ----- From: shad bell To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:12 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Motercycle chain links work good (in some instances) in place of cable shackles, most hardware stores carry some kind of industrial chain. Or you could simply make them out of ..065, or .090 4130 sheet. Just 2 cents worth Shad don't archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06/14/11 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Project for sale, $5,000 or will part out From: "tdudley@umn.edu" I haven't done any research yet, but the A-65 is what I thought I might put up front in my plane. Anyone have any advice? Tom Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=343001#343001 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:54 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California Dave, I hope you will join us next year for the 3rd annual West Coast Piet Gathering at Frazer Lake, near Gilroy..just a nice, short drive up 101. Gary Cool, Ca. From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Abramson Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California Hi Mark! I am building at the Santa Maria Airport! Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of mark lee Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:12 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California Looking for any builders around Moopark,Camarillo.Ventura California.--- Do not archive href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:39 PM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Project for sale, $5,000 or will part out The A-65 is a very good match for the Air Camper. Especially in the lower elevations where you don't have to climb very high. It's reliability is legendary. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:05 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Project for sale, $5,000 or will part out > > I haven't done any research yet, but the A-65 is what I thought I might > put up front in my plane. Anyone have any advice? > > Tom > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=343001#343001 > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:58 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Last time I was at Brodhead I think it was the landing gear I was taking ph otos of; this year hopefully it will be of wings and struts. Thanks Ben, Jim B. =C2-do not archive ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:20 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace HI Shad, I got some #50 links from Home Depot a couple of months ago as I started getting parts together to make cables. Thanks, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:08 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Swaged fittings really do look like nicer and appear to have less drag as well; but couldn't find anyone here in our local chapter that had the tools to do the swaged fittings. Thanks Michael, Jim B. do not archive ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 09:19:54 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cables; control and brace Hi Kevin, Aren't cotter keys okay as well as safety wiring? Sure look like it would be easier to do. Cheers, Jim B. do not archive ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:19 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace Here=99s how I=99m doing the other end. I have since re-shaped the =98shackles=99 to a more slender look. Hi Gary, They look very neat as they are in this photo; hope mine come out looking a s well. thanks and it was great seeing you and Ryan the other week. Cheers, Jim B. do not archive ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 09:36:57 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cables; control and brace When using the chain link it is advisable to use the AN-111 cable bushings instead of thimbles. Hi Greg, Thanks for the drawing; I had not even thought of using the cable bushings; wasn't sure really what they were. Thanks, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:45 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet fly-in at Centerburg Don, I don't mean to pester you, but my little fly-in is saturday, Skipp, a nd Ed Delanely are planning on flying up friday afternoon and Steve Emo is planning on flying his piet up from New Carlisle saturday.- Hope you can make it.- Also I was wondering if you could let Frank P. know about it, i f he would want to fly down for the day on Saturday. - Shad p.s.- I like your Chief video, nice looking airplane! ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 11:14:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California From: Mark Roberts Sorry, I am in Fresno, but at least you know there are others that eventually can fly to where you are to help! Just gimmie about 36 months... Mark On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Gboothe5 wrote: > Dave, > > > I hope you will join us next year for the 3rd annual West Coast Piet > Gathering at Frazer Lake, near Gilroy=85.just a nice, short drive up 101 =85 > > > Gary > > Cool, Ca. > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave Abramson > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:47 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California > > > Hi Mark! I am building at the Santa Maria Airport! > > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of *mark lee > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:12 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California > > Looking for any builders around Moopark,Camarillo.Ventura California.--- > Do not archive > > * * > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.ma tronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ c* > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > =========== > =========== =========== =========== > > * > > ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 11:15:18 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California From: mark lee Thanks Gary I'll get free for it.Would love to go.Eventually I'll sell this house and go to Colorado or AZ.That's where I'll set up permanently and really be able to build.That's why I'm so stuck on a higher alt engine.Also I've hit some heavy air in a hang glider.Do you know what the negative G stress loading is on a piet.I'm sure if I cross the mountains it will be early morning but I'd like to know.I'm aware this isn't a stunt plane,nor d o I want one. But I've been nailed before. Do not archive On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Gboothe5 wrote: > Dave, > > > I hope you will join us next year for the 3rd annual West Coast Piet > Gathering at Frazer Lake, near Gilroy=85.just a nice, short drive up 101 =85 > > > Gary > > Cool, Ca. > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave Abramson > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:47 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California > > > Hi Mark! I am building at the Santa Maria Airport! > > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of *mark lee > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:12 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Local builders southern California > > Looking for any builders around Moopark,Camarillo.Ventura California.--- > Do not archive > > * * > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.ma tronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ c* > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > =========== > =========== =========== =========== > > * > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 11:19:00 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seat back question From: Mark Roberts Oooowwww...very nice stick assembly.... I want one of those!... Mark On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Michael Perez wrote: > Or, if the sticks are not made yet, weld tabs center-line on both sticks > and fit the connecting tube between them. 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