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1. 05:55 AM - Re: Piet Items available (Pieti Lowell)
2. 07:39 AM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (l.morlock)
3. 07:53 AM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (TOM STINEMETZE)
4. 08:10 AM - Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today (Dan Yocum)
5. 08:52 AM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Owen Davies)
6. 08:57 AM - Re: Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today (Ryan Mueller)
7. 09:05 AM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Ryan Mueller)
8. 09:20 AM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Dan Yocum)
9. 09:35 AM - passing through (JOSEPH SWITHIN)
10. 09:43 AM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Ryan Mueller)
11. 10:13 AM - Re: Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today (Bill Church)
12. 10:18 AM - Re: Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today (BRETT PHILLIPS)
13. 10:45 AM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Owen Davies)
14. 11:09 AM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Ryan Mueller)
15. 11:50 AM - Re: passing through (helspersew@aol.com)
16. 11:51 AM - Is White Pine Acceptable? (Bryce Reid)
17. 12:44 PM - Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? (Dan Yocum)
18. 01:16 PM - Re: Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
19. 01:16 PM - Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? (gboothe5@comcast.net)
20. 01:27 PM - Re: Piet Items available (John Theron)
21. 01:34 PM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Dan Yocum)
22. 01:47 PM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Boatright, Jeffrey)
23. 03:00 PM - Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? (womenfly2)
24. 03:54 PM - Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? (Bill Church)
25. 04:03 PM - Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM)
26. 06:37 PM - Re: Piet Items available (Pieti Lowell)
27. 07:15 PM - For John Theron (kevinpurtee)
28. 08:27 PM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
29. 08:35 PM - Re: I love my job....sometimes (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Items available |
The only issues that Ken Perkins's steerable tail-wheel system has; is when the
installer uses a shorter control arm than the rudder arm, it will disengage before
you want it to. Just do it correctly and then there will be no surprises.
Pieti Lowell
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On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Pieti Lowell wrote:
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> I will have the following for Piet builders,
> Maple forms to make fuel tank end plates
> Ken Perkins, full swiveling tail wheel assembly.
> Ford crank extension, to mount taper hub.with fitted prop nut.
> Pietenpolie Girl T shirts
> and more at Brodhead fly-in.
> Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: I love my job....sometimes |
Believe it or not, I have thought about putting a Cummins diesel in a
Pietenpol. They have a 3.3 liter engine, same displacement and similar
size as a Model A engine, 65 HP @ 2600 rpm, but very heavy (and
expensive). It probably could be done - but not by me!
Larry
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From: TOM STINEMETZE
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I love my job....sometimes
Nice looking Piet Larry, but did you even consider putting a Cummins
diesel on the nose? You know how we all like to brag that the Pietenpol
has flown with more different engines than any other airplane - EVER.
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net> 6/28/2011 8:57 PM >>>
Besides the interesting fact that Larry=99s Piet now sports
Douwe=99s old =98A=99 engine
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| Subject: | Re: I love my job....sometimes |
Darn shame Larry. You could have called it a "Pietenbuilt" and had a real
collector's item there.
Tom S.
>>> "l.morlock" <l.morlock@att.net> 6/30/2011 9:36 AM >>>
Believe it or not, I have thought about putting a Cummins diesel in a
Pietenpol. They have a 3.3 liter engine, same displacement and similar
size as a Model A engine, 65 HP @ 2600 rpm, but very heavy (and expensive).
It probably could be done - but not by me!
Larry
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| Subject: | Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today |
Great photo, Bill!
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/potw/PictureOfTheWeek_204899-1.html
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Fermilab 630.840.6509
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: I love my job....sometimes |
On 06/30/2011 10:36 AM, l.morlock wrote:
> Believe it or not, I have thought about putting a Cummins diesel in a
> Pietenpol. They have a 3.3 liter engine, same displacement and similar
> size as a Model A engine, 65 HP @ 2600 rpm, but very heavy (and
> expensive). It probably could be done - but not by me!
However, the late Bob Hoover (the VW expert and blogger, not the
aerobatics pilot) pointed out that GM has a 65-horse industrial engine
that is almost an exact match for the Model A, including weight.
Rebuilt, it's dirt cheap. Sorely tempting.
Owen
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| Subject: | Re: Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today |
Woulda won POTW, except his name's not Gary Dikkers...
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
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> Great photo, Bill!
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> http://www.avweb.com/**avwebflash/potw/**PictureOfTheWeek_204899-1.html<http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/potw/PictureOfTheWeek_204899-1.html>
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> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: I love my job....sometimes |
And which model is that? (since he doesn't say)
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Owen Davies <owen5819@comcast.net> wrote:
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> On 06/30/2011 10:36 AM, l.morlock wrote:
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>> Believe it or not, I have thought about putting a Cummins diesel in a
>> Pietenpol. They have a 3.3 liter engine, same displacement and similar
>> size as a Model A engine, 65 HP @ 2600 rpm, but very heavy (and
>> expensive). It probably could be done - but not by me!
>>
>
> However, the late Bob Hoover (the VW expert and blogger, not the aerobatics
> pilot) pointed out that GM has a 65-horse industrial engine that is almost
> an exact match for the Model A, including weight. Rebuilt, it's dirt cheap.
> Sorely tempting.
>
> Owen
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| Subject: | Re: I love my job....sometimes |
3.0l Vortec is my guess. It says it ships at 363lbs, but that could
include the crate weight, too.
On 06/30/2011 11:03 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> And which model is that? (since he doesn't say)
>
> do not archive
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> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Owen Davies <owen5819@comcast.net
> <mailto:owen5819@comcast.net>> wrote:
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> <owen5819@comcast.net <mailto:owen5819@comcast.net>>
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> On 06/30/2011 10:36 AM, l.morlock wrote:
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> Believe it or not, I have thought about putting a Cummins diesel
> in a
> Pietenpol. They have a 3.3 liter engine, same displacement and
> similar
> size as a Model A engine, 65 HP @ 2600 rpm, but very heavy (and
> expensive). It probably could be done - but not by me!
>
>
> However, the late Bob Hoover (the VW expert and blogger, not the
> aerobatics pilot) pointed out that GM has a 65-horse industrial
> engine that is almost an exact match for the Model A, including
> weight. Rebuilt, it's dirt cheap. Sorely tempting.
>
> Owen
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If any of you are going to pass through the Morris, IL area let me know. If you
stop for a break It would be nice meet any of you. If you need assistance I will
do what I can to be of help. I have taken a couple of days off so Thursday I
will be free and Friday I will drive up to Brodhead in the a.m. If interested
contact me via joeswithin@yahoo.com and we can trade info. I'am just getting
started on my project so I do not have anything to show yet other than a keen
desire to build and learn form others.
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: I love my job....sometimes |
I think that's without the crate.....what a deal! Only 50% heavier than a
Model A... :P
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
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> 3.0l Vortec is my guess. It says it ships at 363lbs, but that could
> include the crate weight, too.
>
>
> On 06/30/2011 11:03 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
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>> And which model is that? (since he doesn't say)
>>
>> do not archive
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>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Owen Davies <owen5819@comcast.net
>> <mailto:owen5819@comcast.net>> wrote:
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>> <owen5819@comcast.net <mailto:owen5819@comcast.net>>
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>> On 06/30/2011 10:36 AM, l.morlock wrote:
>>
>> Believe it or not, I have thought about putting a Cummins diesel
>> in a
>> Pietenpol. They have a 3.3 liter engine, same displacement and
>> similar
>> size as a Model A engine, 65 HP @ 2600 rpm, but very heavy (and
>> expensive). It probably could be done - but not by me!
>>
>>
>> However, the late Bob Hoover (the VW expert and blogger, not the
>> aerobatics pilot) pointed out that GM has a 65-horse industrial
>> engine that is almost an exact match for the Model A, including
>> weight. Rebuilt, it's dirt cheap. Sorely tempting.
>>
>> Owen
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| Subject: | Re: Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today |
Thanks Dan.
It was only after Ryan suggested that I submit it, that I did submit it.
Funny thing is that AVweb didn't even notify me that the photo was selected. So,
thanks for the heads-up as well.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today |
Shoulda won it!
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| Subject: | Re: I love my job....sometimes |
On 06/30/2011 12:18 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
> 3.0l Vortec is my guess. It says it ships at 363lbs, but that could
> include the crate weight, too.
It has at least five years since Bob and I exchanged messages about
this, and I have lost a lot of material to a dying hard drive since
then. However, it was the 3.0l Vortec he had in mind. The horsepower,
weight, and I believe cruise RPM (not sure about that last) almost
exactly matched the Model A.
Weight assumed replacing the cast iron manifold with welded steel
tubing. (Pretty sure the shipping weight does include the crate.) The
details may have changed since they switched from a carb to fuel
injection, but it should still be pretty close.
What made this engine so attractive, of course, was the price for a
rebuilt engine. I remember (to the limited extent that verb describes
what I actually do!) it as being around $800. It's probably a bit more now.
Owen
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| Subject: | Re: I love my job....sometimes |
Unless the manifold and crate weigh 120 lbs combined, that engine is a fair
amount heavier than a Model A at ~244lbs..
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Owen Davies <owen5819@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On 06/30/2011 12:18 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
> 3.0l Vortec is my guess. It says it ships at 363lbs, but that could
>> include the crate weight, too.
>>
>
> It has at least five years since Bob and I exchanged messages about this,
> and I have lost a lot of material to a dying hard drive since then. However,
> it was the 3.0l Vortec he had in mind. The horsepower, weight, and I believe
> cruise RPM (not sure about that last) almost exactly matched the Model A.
>
> Weight assumed replacing the cast iron manifold with welded steel tubing.
> (Pretty sure the shipping weight does include the crate.) The details may
> have changed since they switched from a carb to fuel injection, but it
> should still be pretty close.
>
> What made this engine so attractive, of course, was the price for a rebuilt
> engine. I remember (to the limited extent that verb describes what I
> actually do!) it as being around $800. It's probably a bit more now.
>
> Owen
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: passing through |
Hi Joe,
You are already fitting nicely into this group. You know you are one of us
when you start quoting lines from The Great Waldo Pepper ;o)
........."passing through, just passing through"..............(Axel Olsson,
waving his arm, when Waldo showed up at "his" party)
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: JOSEPH SWITHIN <joeswithin@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 11:35 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: passing through
If any of you are going to pass through the Morris, IL area let me know. If
you stop for a break It would be nice meet any of you. If you need assista
nce I will do what I can to be of help. I have taken a couple of days off s
o Thursday I will be free and Friday I will drive up to Brodhead in the a.m
. If interested contact me via joeswithin@yahoo.com and we can trade info.
I'am just getting started on my project so I do not have anything to show y
et other than a keen desire to build and learn form others.
Joe
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| Subject: | Is White Pine Acceptable? |
I am new to this list and was wondering, is white pine acceptable to use in
building the Pietenpol?
Its my understanding that spruce is what most builders are using but I have
a good supply of close grained white pine.
Thanks
Bryce
Oklahoma City
Started on fuselage and wing ribs
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| Subject: | Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? |
The short answer is "maybe."
Per:
http://www.sportair.com/articles/Aircraft%20Wood%20-%20Part%20One.html
"The primary source of information for the builder may be obtained from
FAA Advisory Circular 43-13, government bulletin ANC-19, and from a copy
of Mil-Spec-6073. Advisory Circular 43-13 lists a number of different
types of wood that may be used in an aircraft structure..."
"As you can see from the chart White Pine is 85-96% as strong as spruce.
It is easy to work with and is somewhat available. A number of kit
manufacturers are using White Pine successfully within their designs. It
is low in hardness and shock resisting capability. It cannot be used as
a direct substitute for spruce without an increase in size to compensate
for the lesser strength."
Finding the minimum rings-per-inch (6) and maximum grain slope (1:15) at
your local big box home improvement store will be nearly impossible,
though some people have been able to do it given enough time and effort
to sift through the stacks and stacks of wood and then coming back the
following week and doing it again. And again. And again.
Dan
On 06/30/2011 01:49 PM, Bryce Reid wrote:
>
>
> I am new to this list and was wondering, is white pine acceptable to use
> in building the Pietenpol?
>
> Its my understanding that spruce is what most builders are using but I
> have a good supply of close grained white pine.
>
> Thanks
> Bryce
>
> Oklahoma City
> Started on fuselage and wing ribs
>
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Bill Church photo featured on AVweb, today |
Shoulda been me
In a message dated 6/30/2011 11:58:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rmueller23@gmail.com writes:
Woulda won POTW, except his name's not Gary Dikkers...
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Dan Yocum <_yocum@fnal.gov_
(mailto:yocum@fnal.gov) > wrote:
(mailto:yocum@fnal.gov) >
Great photo, Bill!
_http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/potw/PictureOfTheWeek_204899-1.html_
(http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/potw/PictureOfTheWeek_204899-1.html)
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Items available |
>
> Pieti
I am coming to Brodhead (with my Lady) from England, will you have the
tailwheel assembly there as I am interested in purchasing it? What are
you asking for it?
John Theron
>
> Time: 06:07:09 AM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet Items available
> From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
>
>
> I will have the following for Piet builders,
> Maple forms to make fuel tank end plates
> Ken Perkins, full swiveling tail wheel assembly.
> Ford crank extension, to mount taper hub.with fitted prop nut.
> Pietenpolie Girl T shirts
> and more at Brodhead fly-in.
> Pieti Lowell
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344429#344429
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| Subject: | Re: I love my job....sometimes |
There are 3 Vortec engines that might fit the bill. A 1.6l, 2.4l, and
the 3.0l.
I think the 2.4l is probably the one Bob was talking about. It comes in
at 247lbs and provides the most torque at 3200RPM and about 90hp.
http://industrial-irrigation.com/assets/files/REV_2011_2400_Industrial.pdf
The 1.6l comes in at 220lbs and provides the top torque at 3200RPM and 70hp:
http://www.bucksengines.com/Data/32.pdf
$800 for an overhaul does sound appealing.
Dan
On 06/30/2011 12:42 PM, Owen Davies wrote:
>
> On 06/30/2011 12:18 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
>> 3.0l Vortec is my guess. It says it ships at 363lbs, but that could
>> include the crate weight, too.
>
> It has at least five years since Bob and I exchanged messages about
> this, and I have lost a lot of material to a dying hard drive since
> then. However, it was the 3.0l Vortec he had in mind. The horsepower,
> weight, and I believe cruise RPM (not sure about that last) almost
> exactly matched the Model A.
>
> Weight assumed replacing the cast iron manifold with welded steel
> tubing. (Pretty sure the shipping weight does include the crate.) The
> details may have changed since they switched from a carb to fuel
> injection, but it should still be pretty close.
>
> What made this engine so attractive, of course, was the price for a
> rebuilt engine. I remember (to the limited extent that verb describes
> what I actually do!) it as being around $800. It's probably a bit more now.
>
> Owen
>
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | I love my job....sometimes |
Could it be dry-sumped and mounted upside down?
Jeff Boatright
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]
on behalf of Dan Yocum [yocum@fnal.gov]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I love my job....sometimes
There are 3 Vortec engines that might fit the bill. A 1.6l, 2.4l, and
the 3.0l.
I think the 2.4l is probably the one Bob was talking about. It comes in
at 247lbs and provides the most torque at 3200RPM and about 90hp.
http://industrial-irrigation.com/assets/files/REV_2011_2400_Industrial.pdf
The 1.6l comes in at 220lbs and provides the top torque at 3200RPM and 70hp:
http://www.bucksengines.com/Data/32.pdf
$800 for an overhaul does sound appealing.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? |
Best do the engineering on both for comparison. There is a big difference.
Also, justify your findings with real load test to verify.
" ...don't fly any higher then you would like to fall! "
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| Subject: | Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? |
As the others have said, "it depends".
As the builder, if you are selecting your own wood, it is very important that you
know exactly what species you are actually choosing. You mentioned "white pine",
but do you know the true species? There are different varieties of white
pine, with different physical characteristics. And, just to make things even
more complicated, as can be seen in the two attachments, one species of wood (Pinus
strobus) is referred to as Northern White Pine in AC43.13-1B, but also referred
to as Eastern White Pine in ANC-18.
The white pine species shown in the chart clearly have lower strength values compared
to Sitka; some more significant than others.
The short answer is exactly what AC43.13-1B says; "Cannot be used as a substitute
for spruce without increase in sizes to compensate for lesser strength." Which
doesn't mean that you couldn't build a successful Piet from "white pine";
it just means that you would need to know exactly what you are working with, and
you would also need to know how to adjust the sizes of the members to appropriately
allow for the lesser strength. And you should also do some actual testing
of the wood you intend to use, to ensure that it has properties in line with
the published values.
Seems like a lot of work to me.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? |
Are you the Bryce who was in Enid, OK this last weekend with Lonnie G?
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Items available |
I will stuff as much of the items that I wish to pass on. as my Piet will carry,
Maybe not the extra Ford B block.
Pieti Lowell
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John - I'm a flitzer wannabe. I'm guessing it's you on the flitzer site with G-EFHB.
If so, please look me up at Brodhead. NX899KP.
Best regards,
Kevin
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NX899KP
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You are building an airplane with only one wing?
Will it take a 120? It will take a 120 all it takes is money
John
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-----Original message-----
From: Owen Davies <owen5819@comcast.net>
Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 15:53:54 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I love my job....sometimes
On 06/30/2011 10:36 AM, l.morlock wrote:
> Believe it or not, I have thought about putting a Cummins diesel in a
> Pietenpol. They have a 3.3 liter engine, same displacement and similar
> size as a Model A engine, 65 HP @ 2600 rpm, but very heavy (and
> expensive). It probably could be done - but not by me!
However, the late Bob Hoover (the VW expert and blogger, not the
aerobatics pilot) pointed out that GM has a 65-horse industrial engine
that is almost an exact match for the Model A, including weight.
Rebuilt, it's dirt cheap. Sorely tempting.
Owen
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