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1. 07:32 AM - lycoming 0235 C1B experts (amsafetyc@aol.com)
2. 07:52 AM - The hits just keep on coming (amsafetyc@aol.com)
3. 08:02 AM - Re: The hits just keep on coming (Wayne Bressler)
4. 08:16 AM - Re: The hits just keep on coming (Gboothe5)
5. 08:18 AM - More (amsafetyc@aol.com)
6. 08:20 AM - Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts (Gboothe5)
7. 08:22 AM - Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts (Piet2112)
8. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM)
9. 11:26 AM - Re: The hits just keep on coming (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM)
10. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM)
11. 01:36 PM - Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts (Jerry Dotson)
12. 03:36 PM - model a prop (bender)
13. 03:49 PM - Re: The hits just keep on coming (K5YAC)
14. 04:08 PM - Don flying his Chief up instead of Piet (Douwe Blumberg)
15. 05:39 PM - Re: model a prop (l.morlock)
16. 07:06 PM - Re: model a prop (helspersew@aol.com)
17. 08:00 PM - Re: Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts (Clif Dawson)
18. 08:45 PM - Hangar work (Gene Rambo)
19. 10:22 PM - Re: Hangar work (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
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| Subject: | lycoming 0235 C1B experts |
Okay sports fans here's how it goes. I located an A&P who was willing to
help teach supervise and mentor me in the tear down and overhaul of my
engine. Just as i get ready to order parts he gives one of the female we
need to talk phone messages, knowing nothing good ever comes out of
conversations that begin that way I was skeptical to say the least.
Following all the lawyer excuses it came down to the fact he wasn't
comfortable doing what he had agreed to for legal reasons, again with the
lawyers. Long and short he took a powder on me.
Anyone have any good and reasonable suggestions or resources. I still want
to learn the engine by building it but prefer that be done under the
supervision of a trained and experienced person rather thn my working in a
vacuum and hoping I did it right. This is not my first engine build just my
first aircraft engine build.
I have built enough to know they all have their little tricks and nuances
that mean the difference between a solid reliable build and an accident
waiting to happen. My preference is in the solid reliable trouble free build
category unless there was any confusion as to my goal and preference.
Any suggestions or resources you can suggest in helping me achieve my goal.
Please advise
John
No reasonable offer refused
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| Subject: | The hits just keep on coming |
Not enough my A&P takes a powder. I am still setting up my hangar when
Tom,toothless Tom the maintenance guy gets around to fixing my doors so they
open and decides he's not liking my use of extension cords to power the
fixtures I hung in the dungeon so he decides to rat me out to the airport
manager. The both go look and decide in their collective wisdom that it was
an unsafe condition that could cause the all metal building to catch fire.
So now I have to go over hard wire my lights as to provide the brain trust
piece of mind to the point that I get permission to keep building. This was
after signing a special lease agreement saying I am assembling not
manufacturing and no use of open flame devices torch gas weld.
No going to rewire to gain permission and approval. The airport manager did
not like my industrial grade tools full size air compressor, full height
drill press and lathe something about a section of the hangar looking like a
machine shop. Wow all of that and a safety consultant too and all by
qualified safety professional resources there is more to the rant but I have
bored and burdened you enough
Stay tuned for the next thrill packed episode of star alingment caema and
signs from above discouraging the progress of the build.
John
Do not archive its just not worth it
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| Subject: | Re: The hits just keep on coming |
Gotta love airport management that's so in tune with aviation...
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
Do not archive
On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:50 AM, "amsafetyc@aol.com" <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Not enough my A&P takes a powder. I am still setting up my hangar when Tom
,toothless Tom the maintenance guy gets around to fixing my doors so they op
en and decides he's not liking my use of extension cords to power the fixtur
es I hung in the dungeon so he decides to rat me out to the airport manager.
The both go look and decide in their collective wisdom that it was an unsa
fe condition that could cause the all metal building to catch fire. So now I
have to go over hard wire my lights as to provide the brain trust piece of m
ind to the point that I get permission to keep building. This was after sign
ing a special lease agreement saying I am assembling not manufacturing and n
o use of open flame devices torch gas weld.
>
> No going to rewire to gain permission and approval. The airport manager di
d not like my industrial grade tools full size air compressor, full height d
rill press and lathe something about a section of the hangar looking like a m
achine shop. Wow all of that and a safety consultant too and all by qualifie
d safety professional resources there is more to the rant but I have bored a
nd burdened you enough
>
> Stay tuned for the next thrill packed episode of star alingment caema and s
igns from above discouraging the progress of the build.
>
> John
>
> Do not archive its just not worth it
> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
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| Subject: | The hits just keep on coming |
Toothless Tom gets an anonymous turd every Christmas=85maybe the
manager, too=85
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
amsafetyc@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 7:50 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: The hits just keep on coming
Not enough my A&P takes a powder. I am still setting up my hangar when
Tom,toothless Tom the maintenance guy gets around to fixing my doors so
they
open and decides he's not liking my use of extension cords to power the
fixtures I hung in the dungeon so he decides to rat me out to the
airport
manager. The both go look and decide in their collective wisdom that it
was
an unsafe condition that could cause the all metal building to catch
fire.
So now I have to go over hard wire my lights as to provide the brain
trust
piece of mind to the point that I get permission to keep building. This
was
after signing a special lease agreement saying I am assembling not
manufacturing and no use of open flame devices torch gas weld.
No going to rewire to gain permission and approval. The airport manager
did
not like my industrial grade tools full size air compressor, full height
drill press and lathe something about a section of the hangar looking
like a
machine shop. Wow all of that and a safety consultant too and all by
qualified safety professional resources there is more to the rant but I
have
bored and burdened you enough
Stay tuned for the next thrill packed episode of star alingment caema
and
signs from above discouraging the progress of the build.
John
Do not archive its just not worth it
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
~=B2
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As some may be aware the company I work for has been sold. May 1 they inked
the deal and cut the check. We have all Benn waiting to see if we have jobs
or chairs when the music stops. The new owners have a global director that
lives in Germany the US has a corp safety director and then there is yours
truly safety director of the acquired.
Almost 3 weeks ago while stuck again in Tulsa and trying to get home I get a
call from my boss. He tells me on Thursday that on the Monday following I
will have a new boss. He has no idea who that will be but its no longer him.
We exchanged niceties then he drops the other shoe. He explains the reason
for telling me all that was because on the next day Friday the new
orgizational chart is to be published and I am not on it.
Following his assurance that my accopmlishments are well documented and
recognized and not to worry I will have a job. Not knowing where what or
for who but I have a job. Now this comes from the executive vp of operations
who is retiring at year end 2011 and is not on the org chart either.
No working for 3 weeks without supervision or report I get to spend all of
Thursday with the Safety Director of USA answering questions about my
programs what I do and how I do it. Great!
The new owners have their corp hq in the Atlanta my office is in
Philadelphia at corp admin and our execs are in Newport beach Ca. gee I
wonder what the are going to do with 3 corp hq facilities and the people
working in them. Hmmmmmm?
But I got a job, at my age, right?
Do not archive less your interested in my new career prob gonna become
assistant to toothless Tommy airport maintenance guy and safety professional
extraordinaire
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| Subject: | lycoming 0235 C1B experts |
John,
If you know =91good practices=92 and have an engine manual, there=92s
nothing more
simple than an A/C engine! I know you could handle it, with or without
help.
If you run into specific questions=85put those out to the group.
Gary
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
amsafetyc@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 7:31 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: lycoming 0235 C1B experts
Okay sports fans here's how it goes. I located an A&P who was willing to
help teach supervise and mentor me in the tear down and overhaul of my
engine. Just as i get ready to order parts he gives one of the female we
need to talk phone messages, knowing nothing good ever comes out of
conversations that begin that way I was skeptical to say the least.
Following all the lawyer excuses it came down to the fact he wasn't
comfortable doing what he had agreed to for legal reasons, again with
the
lawyers. Long and short he took a powder on me.
Anyone have any good and reasonable suggestions or resources. I still
want
to learn the engine by building it but prefer that be done under the
supervision of a trained and experienced person rather thn my working in
a
vacuum and hoping I did it right. This is not my first engine build just
my
first aircraft engine build.
I have built enough to know they all have their little tricks and
nuances
that mean the difference between a solid reliable build and an accident
waiting to happen. My preference is in the solid reliable trouble free
build
category unless there was any confusion as to my goal and preference.
Any suggestions or resources you can suggest in helping me achieve my
goal.
Please advise
John
No reasonable offer refused
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
~=B2
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| Subject: | Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts |
John,
I'm about to tear down my C85 and my A&P/IA friend gave me a book to read first.
It was extremely informative and even though it is geared more towards the
Lycomings, it's a great resource for any engine. It's the Sky Ranch Engineering
Manual. There are several different sources for the book and AS&S has it for
about $23.
As far as gaskets, seals, bearings,etc. www.airpowerinc.com seems to have the best prices I could find. If you find something better, please pass it along.
I attached a sample from the book.
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344685#344685
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| Subject: | Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts |
John, check with your local EAA chapter. They should know someone who will supervise
your engine overhaul. In the San Antonio area there is an EAA member who
specializes in helping guys rebuild engines. I will be using one this fall.
Blue Skies,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: lycoming 0235 C1B experts
> John,
>
>
>
> If you know good practices and have an engine manual, theres
> nothing more
> simple than an A/C engine! I know you could handle it, with or
> without help.
> If you run into specific questionsput those out to the group.
>
>
>
> Gary
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> amsafetyc@aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 7:31 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: lycoming 0235 C1B experts
>
>
>
> Okay sports fans here's how it goes. I located an A&P who was
> willing to
> help teach supervise and mentor me in the tear down and overhaul of my
> engine. Just as i get ready to order parts he gives one of the
> female we
> need to talk phone messages, knowing nothing good ever comes out of
> conversations that begin that way I was skeptical to say the least.
> Following all the lawyer excuses it came down to the fact he wasn't
> comfortable doing what he had agreed to for legal reasons, again
> with the
> lawyers. Long and short he took a powder on me.
>
> Anyone have any good and reasonable suggestions or resources. I
> still want
> to learn the engine by building it but prefer that be done under the
> supervision of a trained and experienced person rather thn my
> working in a
> vacuum and hoping I did it right. This is not my first engine build
> just my
> first aircraft engine build.
>
> I have built enough to know they all have their little tricks and
> nuancesthat mean the difference between a solid reliable build and
> an accident
> waiting to happen. My preference is in the solid reliable trouble
> free build
> category unless there was any confusion as to my goal and
> preference.
>
> Any suggestions or resources you can suggest in helping me achieve
> my goal.
>
> Please advise
>
> John
>
> No reasonable offer refused
>
> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> ~
>
> _____
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: The hits just keep on coming |
John, Ignorant of the bigger situation and just thinking outloud.
Is it a private or public airport? Is there a airport committee that includes pilots?
Where did they get the idea that you could only assemble an aircraft and
not make the parts? is your primary purpose of the hanger aviation related (storing
an airplane or building an airplane?) Does anyone else on the airport
use a hanger for "non aviation" purposes? IE storing wood for their carpentry
business, or boats, Etc. Is there a strong EAA group or some such conclave of
pilots? that can support your position. Do the other hanger tenants know that
they will probably have to agree to the same type of rules will that effect them?
You many not have to gather them with burning torches, Just let everyone know
what is happening.
Having said that as aircraft owners we can't "crap where we eat" in that we need
to have a place at the airport and so must get along with the management somehow.
Blue Skies,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" <amsafetyc@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: The hits just keep on coming
>
> Not enough my A&P takes a powder. I am still setting up my hangar
> when
> Tom,toothless Tom the maintenance guy gets around to fixing my
> doors so they
> open and decides he's not liking my use of extension cords to power
> the
> fixtures I hung in the dungeon so he decides to rat me out to the
> airport
> manager. The both go look and decide in their collective wisdom
> that it was
> an unsafe condition that could cause the all metal building to
> catch fire.
> So now I have to go over hard wire my lights as to provide the
> brain trust
> piece of mind to the point that I get permission to keep building.
> This was
> after signing a special lease agreement saying I am assembling not
> manufacturing and no use of open flame devices torch gas weld.
>
> No going to rewire to gain permission and approval. The airport
> manager did
> not like my industrial grade tools full size air compressor, full
> height
> drill press and lathe something about a section of the hangar
> looking like a
> machine shop. Wow all of that and a safety consultant too and all
> by
> qualified safety professional resources there is more to the rant
> but I have
> bored and burdened you enough
>
> Stay tuned for the next thrill packed episode of star alingment
> caema and
> signs from above discouraging the progress of the build.
>
> John
>
> Do not archive its just not worth it
> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is White Pine Acceptable? |
Build the mock up and give it to your kids to play with.
Just a thot.
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Is White Pine Acceptable?
>
> My suggestion would be to use your stash of white pine for building a mock-up
fuselage with to make sure you will fit with reasonable
> comfort, seat back is at the proper angle for you, and to make sure
> your instrument panel is located properly where you can see it
> easily. Buy some spruce for building the real thing, and use the
> white pine for shelves or furniture. You could also maybe build a
> wing rib or two from the white pine just for learning experience
> and to have a cool decoration to hang on the wall of your
> shop/hanger/mancave.
> my $.02
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Billy McCaskill
> Urbana, IL
> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344662#344662
>
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| Subject: | Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts |
John,
I just built an O-235 C2C which is very close to being exactly the same. There
are some AD's that need to be tended to oil pump gears,push rod material, carb
venturi and float material, maybe some more. I remember the pushrods and float
being reading the AD's closely to determine if it applied. The oil pump is
very clear in that it requires 2 hardened steel gears. My log book lied. It was
written that the oil pump AD had been done and it had not. Make sure you knock
the sludge tubes out of the crank and clean the krud out. If you are very careful
you can reuse them as it is experimental. I bought an oak dowel the same
OD as the sludge tube and sanded it to fit. Measure them to make sure they are
still a press fit before you reuse them. If they are not removed and cleaned
odds are very great you will have bearing problems as the oil distribution goes
around the OD of those tubes. They make like a centrifuge when the engine
is running. Some of the krud the filters miss is captured within that cavity.
That was not Lycoming's intent. They figured out how to make the crank without
those things in later years. I can really find fault though as my crank was in
great condition after 2050 hours.
I found Dart Aircraft Parts in Waco, Tx the most reasonable. A guy named Steve
was nice to deal with. Note I didn't say cheap. Piston rings were $110 per cylinder
!
The big picture was intentional as I wanted you to see what collects in there.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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I have wood on the way and a pattern scaled down from a sopwith camel propeller...i
also have Dan's prop carving info... love the info Dan
now i'm wondering after reading all the post about pitch what pitch to use ??
the F&G manual for '33 says a model a uses a 72x42... same as a lot of you guys
use on the 65 cont..
i know Dan carved a 76x46... hows the climb Dan ?
i'm thinking 76x 42 or 43 maybe...
i have an A with new rods chevy pistons...B grind cam. insert bearings.1.7 inch
intake valves and a thomas high compression 6.7:1 head got to be more power
than Henry made
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: The hits just keep on coming |
John, you have seen my hangar. When I first spoke to Roger (airport owner) about
renting, my first question was, do you mind if I set up shop and build an airplane
in there? He said, no problem at all, in fact we encourage that kind
of activity. He has seen my empty hangar evolve from two workbenches and a few
power/hand tools to the shop it is now. He has no problem with it at all.
I don't leave lights burning all night (he pays the electric), but I did have
a full size fridge/kegerator in there for a year... he didn't even mind that.
I felt kind of guilty having him keep my keg cold all summer during those 100+
degree days, so I downsized to a small fridge and I kill the power on everything
except the fridge before I leave each day... he didn't ask me to, but I do...
it just makes sense. Knowing you, I'm sure that you have a similar setup...
not sure what is so dangerous about that. Sorry it doesn't seem to be working
out.
I know that this doesn't help your situation in the least, but I guess I'm just
trying to say it just depends who you are dealing with. Perhaps there is another
field you could check in to?
Best of luck!
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Don flying his Chief up instead of Piet |
Now Don.
You know I've always thought pretty kindly of you, but your suggestion of
NOT flying your absolutely beautiful, classic Piet to Brodhead (for the
PIETENPOL reunion I might add!) has me shocked, saddened and rather
disillusioned. I'm hoping we can remain friends.
"he's a four-flusher Mary Beth!!"
Douwe
(in jest)
(kinda)
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: model a prop |
Jeff, as a point of reference, I just ran the Model A engine in my Piet last
week up in Columbus, IN. It has a 76 X44 Hegy prop. I got 1845 static RPM
with a Tillotson carb (which I think you said you are planning to use) and
1860 static RPM with a Model B carb. Your plan of using 76 x 42 sounds
pretty good. I could use more revs.
Larry
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From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 6:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: model a prop
> <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
>
> I have wood on the way and a pattern scaled down from a sopwith camel
> propeller...i also have Dan's prop carving info... love the info Dan
>
> now i'm wondering after reading all the post about pitch what pitch to use
> ??
>
> the F&G manual for '33 says a model a uses a 72x42... same as a lot of you
> guys use on the 65 cont..
> i know Dan carved a 76x46... hows the climb Dan ?
>
> i'm thinking 76x 42 or 43 maybe...
> i have an A with new rods chevy pistons...B grind cam. insert bearings.1.7
> inch intake valves and a thomas high compression 6.7:1 head got to be
> more power than Henry made
>
> jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344723#344723
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: model a prop |
Hi Jeff,
Now that I have my engine running better, the next agenda item is to test t
he climb performance and record. Won't fly her again till about 7/19. I'll
let y'all know.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 2, 2011 5:36 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: model a prop
>
I have wood on the way and a pattern scaled down from a sopwith camel
ropeller...i also have Dan's prop carving info... love the info Dan
now i'm wondering after reading all the post about pitch what pitch to use
??
the F&G manual for '33 says a model a uses a 72x42... same as a lot of you
guys
se on the 65 cont..
know Dan carved a 76x46... hows the climb Dan ?
i'm thinking 76x 42 or 43 maybe...
have an A with new rods chevy pistons...B grind cam. insert bearings.1.7 i
nch
ntake valves and a thomas high compression 6.7:1 head got to be more power
han Henry made
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts |
Also join the Matronics Lycoming list?
Clif
>
> John, check with your local EAA chapter. They should know someone who will
> supervise your engine overhaul. In the San Antonio area there is an EAA
> member who specializes in helping guys rebuild engines. I will be using
> one this fall.
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve
>> If you know 'good practices' and have an engine manual, there's
>> nothing more
>> simple than an A/C engine! >> Gary
>>
>> Do not archive
>> Okay sports fans here's how it goes. I located an A&P who was
>> willing to
>> help teach supervise and mentor me in the tear down and overhaul of my
>> engine. Just as i get ready to order parts he gives one of the
>> female we
>> need to talk phone messages, knowing nothing good ever comes out of
>> conversations that begin that way I was skeptical to say the least.
>> Following all the lawyer excuses it came down to the fact he wasn't
>> comfortable doing what he had agreed to for legal reasons, again
>> with the
>> lawyers. Long and short he took a powder on me.
>> John
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John=2C I have been through all of this before. Any airport that accepts F
ederal funds cannot preclude an owner from performing his own work. That b
eing said=2C they can also place reasonable safety restrictions on your act
ivities. Open flames or electrical wiring that poses a potential fire haza
rd are probably reasonable. I know that if I was to be responsible for eve
ry airplane in my hangar row=2C I would be pretty damned careful. Also=2C
when I think of some of the doofuses in my hangar row=2C all I can say is t
hey better never burn up my Travel Air and Pietenpol for their stupidity!
I KNOW they are not insured enough. Nonetheless=2C there are some who stor
e fuel in plastic 55 gallon drums in their hangar. I'd hate to have to kil
l them!!
If I can help in any way=2C please contact me=2C
Gene
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Gene
Thanks for the info,insight and offer. Rather than win a small victory and
make an advesary I would prefer to meet the restrictions and maybe make a
friend. Ultimately I just want to be left alone to build my airplane without
toothless tommy and the airport manager looking over my shoulder.
As it is I am at an end row T hangar with no flammable storage in a metal
structure. The most flammable item in the hangar is my uncovered fuse wings
and til feathers in the event of an electrical event the worst is a spark
short to ground and a kicked breaker. The 220 line is 30 amp and is not a
pure 220 in serious need of a double pole breaker. I am the only one
connected to it or has access to a dedicated welder connection from a
previous tennant. All that wire is in conduit all the way to the welder
plug. So again any over heating or short goes directly to ground and trips
the breaker still no threat to the row.
Having a manager that doesn't quite understand electric makes for irrational
fears and over rections.
Oh well it takes all kinds
Thanks again for the help
Looking forward to seeing ya at Brodhead this month
Fly safe
John
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From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 03:50:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hangar work
John, I have been through all of this before. Any airport that accepts
Federal funds cannot preclude an owner from performing his own work. That
being said, they can also place reasonable safety restrictions on your
activities. Open flames or electrical wiring that poses a potential fire
hazard are probably reasonable. I know that if I was to be responsible for
every airplane in my hangar row, I would be pretty damned careful. Also,
when I think of some of the doofuses in my hangar row, all I can say is they
better never burn up my Travel Air and Pietenpol for their stupidity! I
KNOW they are not insured enough. Nonetheless, there are some who store
fuel in plastic 55 gallon drums in their hangar. I'd hate to have to kill
them!!
If I can help in any way, please contact me,
Gene
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