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1. 04:52 AM - Re: Re: Insurance (Jack Phillips)
2. 06:07 AM - Re: Re: Insurance (Doug Dever)
3. 12:44 PM - Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
4. 04:55 PM - Re: Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 04:58 PM - Re: Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets (Jerry Dotson)
6. 05:37 PM - Re: Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets (Jack)
7. 07:09 PM - Re: Insurance (Don Emch)
8. 07:44 PM - For Dick Navratil (kevinpurtee)
9. 10:02 PM - Routed Fuse slats (Mark Roberts)
10. 11:01 PM - arlington (Clif Dawson)
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Like Don, I carry Liability and Ground Hull insurance on my Pietenpol. You
aren't allowed to participate in EAA Young Eagle flights if you don't have
Liability insurance, and ground hull is quite cheap. I have my insurance
with Falcon, the EAA's carrier. Cost is a little over $400 per year.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 10:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Insurance
At the beginning of this year I started a new job as a loss control
consultant for an insurance agency. I handle safety and compliance for our
larger commercial accounts. I'm pretty far from the agent side, but our
agents do write policies for aircraft. In fact they write my airplanes.
They write any airplane all the way back to 1903. There is no required
level of insurance to carry, not even liability. Unless a specific locale
might require it. Non-movement hull insurance can be purchased for a "not
finished" homebuilt. The premium really isn't too bad and you either
purchase an "agreed value" or you can purchase an amount that is equivalent
to your receipts as long as a total loss would not exceed a set amount.
Insurance can get complicated but there are some good policies out there and
for a small investment it's not a bad idea. In addition to having liability
coverage, I know when I head out into storm country in a couple of weeks and
leave it out at night unde!
r trees, it's nice to know I have that non-movement hull coverage that is
pretty reasonably priced. "In movement" hull coverage, however, is pretty
pricey for homebuilts and can be hard to justify.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Don=2C
Nice fact to know. I did not realize there was such a thing.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Insurance
> From: EmchAir@aol.com
> Date: Mon=2C 4 Jul 2011 19:33:19 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> At the beginning of this year I started a new job as a loss control consu
ltant for an insurance agency. I handle safety and compliance for our large
r commercial accounts. I'm pretty far from the agent side=2C but our agents
do write policies for aircraft. In fact they write my airplanes. They writ
e any airplane all the way back to 1903. There is no required level of insu
rance to carry=2C not even liability. Unless a specific locale might requir
e it. Non-movement hull insurance can be purchased for a "not finished" hom
ebuilt. The premium really isn't too bad and you either purchase an "agreed
value" or you can purchase an amount that is equivalent to your receipts a
s long as a total loss would not exceed a set amount. Insurance can get com
plicated but there are some good policies out there and for a small investm
ent it's not a bad idea. In addition to having liability coverage=2C I know
when I head out into storm country in a couple of weeks and leave it out a
t night unde!
> r trees=2C it's nice to know I have that non-movement hull coverage that
is pretty reasonably priced. "In movement" hull coverage=2C however=2C is p
retty pricey for homebuilts and can be hard to justify.
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> Don Emch
> NX899DE
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Subject: | Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets |
Members:
Semper Fi and hope your 4th was with family and friends!
The plans call for metal fittings on the tail section to be 13 ga. 5/8" wide steel.
Recommendations as to proper steel? (i.e. 4130 or local hardware steel or
what is others using?)
Jack - Can you resend the hinge diagrams/drawings and pictures for bending them
up. I filed them away for safe keeping and can't find them! I am at the stage
of attaching my vertical fin and stabilizer and want to make these hinges. Truly
need your prints and 'how too' diagrams.
Lastly, any thoughts or ideas of what other have used/done to allow for some front
fin offset? Should one consider this modification as part of trim?
KMHeide
Hawley, MN
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Subject: | Re: Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets |
Hi Ken,
I used 4130.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 5, 2011 2:45 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets
com>
Members:
Semper Fi and hope your 4th was with family and friends!
The plans call for metal fittings on the tail section to be 13 ga. 5/8" wid
e
teel. Recommendations as to proper steel? (i.e. 4130 or local hardware stee
l or
hat is others using?)
Jack - Can you resend the hinge diagrams/drawings and pictures for bending
them
p. I filed them away for safe keeping and can't find them! I am at the stag
e of
ttaching my vertical fin and stabilizer and want to make these hinges. Trul
y
eed your prints and 'how too' diagrams.
Lastly, any thoughts or ideas of what other have used/done to allow for som
e
ront fin offset? Should one consider this modification as part of trim?
KMHeide
awley, MN
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Subject: | Re: Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets |
I made mine from 0.090" 4130 sheet.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets |
Ken,
"Jack" as in Textor? I used Vi Kapler's cast aluminum hinges. I believe
Jim Markle used the type of hinge you are describing.
Jack
DSM
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide
CPO/FAAOP
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 2:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Vertical Fin and Stabilizer brackets
<kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
Members:
Semper Fi and hope your 4th was with family and friends!
The plans call for metal fittings on the tail section to be 13 ga. 5/8" wide
steel. Recommendations as to proper steel? (i.e. 4130 or local hardware
steel or what is others using?)
Jack - Can you resend the hinge diagrams/drawings and pictures for bending
them up. I filed them away for safe keeping and can't find them! I am at the
stage of attaching my vertical fin and stabilizer and want to make these
hinges. Truly need your prints and 'how too' diagrams.
Lastly, any thoughts or ideas of what other have used/done to allow for some
front fin offset? Should one consider this modification as part of trim?
KMHeide
Hawley, MN
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Jack, mine is also $400 per year. I had a claim when my hangar collapsed on the
Piet about 6 years ago. Somewhere around $8,000. Very simple, they asked me
to write up an estimate at a reasonable hourly rate plus materials. That was
my estimate. Overall it worked out very well.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Subject: | For Dick Navratil |
Dick - Do you plan on camping in homebuilt camping at OSH?
Thanks,
Kevin
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Routed Fuse slats |
Hi All:
I have Keri-Ann's door plans, and it shows on there that you can route the
cross members and some of the fuse pieces with some box bits to save a bit
of weight. I have tried to do this with a 1/2" box bit and have had
reasonable success, but I have one diagonal that wandered a bit from center,
and I want to make a center jig for my trimmer router to get a good, center
line on the rest of the members.
I made one tonight with a 1/8" thick washer with a 1/2" center hole, and
attached it to the router. Looked great, and the clearance was very close to
the hole in the Washerb ut it was free from touching.... until I turned it
on and the vibration kicked the bit over just a touch and "Whack" there went
one edge of the Box Bit...
So, for you guys that routed out the centers on the fuse sticks, what did
you use to jig up the router? I decided to do this after the fuse sides were
made, so if you did it before the fuse was actually glued together, I guess
that would'a been a better option, but not one for me...
I am thinking that I might just do the inside rails of the other side and
call it quits, since I have only routed part of the fuse on the inside side
of the left fuse side... I'll keep it even, and perhaps skip the outside of
the fuse... However, I thought it was a neat way to save a bit of weight
(maybe a very little bit....)
Suggestions?
Thanks.
Mark
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So who besides me will be at Arlington?
I will be in spot yj10 as of Thursday afternoon.
Sometime.
Border guardians willing.
Clif
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