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1. 02:39 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Kringle)
2. 03:48 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 03:54 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Jack Phillips)
4. 03:57 AM - Re: Re: For Dick Navratil (Jack)
5. 04:01 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Gene Rambo)
6. 04:05 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Jack)
7. 05:16 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (airlion)
8. 05:20 AM - UK Pietenpol Club (johnnysdrop)
9. 05:33 AM - Jack & Sue's offer (JOSEPH SWITHIN)
10. 05:36 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Don Emch)
11. 05:50 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Bill Church)
12. 05:56 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Richard Schreiber)
13. 06:22 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Ken Bickers)
14. 06:27 AM - Re: UK Pietenpol Club (Pieti Lowell)
15. 06:34 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Pieti Lowell)
16. 06:35 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (kevinpurtee)
17. 07:03 AM - Re: UK Pietenpol Club (jarheadpilot82)
18. 07:09 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
19. 07:33 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Perry Rhoads)
20. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead Get-together (shad bell)
21. 07:39 AM - Re: Jack's invite for lunch at Brodhead. (Woodflier@aol.com)
22. 07:41 AM - Taylorcraft fly-in (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
23. 08:00 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (wayne & Cathy Boniface)
24. 08:09 AM - Re: Taylorcraft fly-in (shad bell)
25. 08:39 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Dan Yocum)
26. 09:31 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (macz@peak.org)
27. 09:32 AM - Re: Routed Fuse slats (Mark Roberts)
28. 09:35 AM - Re: Routed Fuse slats (Ryan Mueller)
29. 09:40 AM - Re: Routed Fuse slats (Ryan Mueller)
30. 09:43 AM - Re: Routed Fuse slats (Mark Roberts)
31. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Routed Fuse slats (Mark Roberts)
32. 09:48 AM - Another Piet in AVweb's POTW contest (Bill Church)
33. 09:50 AM - Re: Routed Fuse slats (Mark Roberts)
34. 09:52 AM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (dog67@aol.com)
35. 12:51 PM - Re: Taylorcraft fly-in (Don Emch)
36. 01:57 PM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (K5YAC)
37. 02:11 PM - 1935 Pilot's catalogue...! (aerocarjake)
38. 02:18 PM - Re: 1935 Pilot's catalogue...! (aerocarjake)
39. 02:26 PM - Re: 1935 Pilot's catalogue...! (Piet2112)
40. 03:07 PM - Re: 1935 Pilot's catalogue...! (Bill Church)
41. 04:09 PM - Brodhead get-together (helspersew@aol.com)
42. 04:33 PM - Re: 1935 Pilot's catalogue...! (Gboothe5)
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44. 05:06 PM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Piep)
45. 05:13 PM - Re: Re: Routed Fuse slats (V Groah)
46. 06:17 PM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Jack)
47. 06:28 PM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Gboothe5)
48. 06:32 PM - Re: Brodhead get-together (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
49. 06:35 PM - Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Tom Travis)
50. 06:48 PM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Ryan Mueller)
51. 06:54 PM - Re: Brodhead get-together (Jack Phillips)
52. 07:22 PM - Re: Brodhead get-together (amsafetyc@aol.com)
53. 07:44 PM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (PatrickW)
54. 08:04 PM - Re: Brodhead get-together (Gene Rambo)
55. 08:08 PM - Re: Brodhead get-together (Ryan Mueller)
56. 08:10 PM - Re: Brodhead get-together (Ryan Mueller)
57. 08:17 PM - Re: Brodhead get-together (Ryan Mueller)
58. 08:19 PM - FW: RV10-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Jack Phillips)
59. 08:31 PM - Re: FW: RV10-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Ryan Mueller)
60. 09:19 PM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (Jim Boyer)
61. 09:54 PM - Re: Brodhead Get-together (dgaldrich)
62. 11:54 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead Get-together (Ryan Mueller)
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Not sure if i can get there in time but will try. Count me and my son in.
John
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Jack,
Count me in. I'll see you there. Please let us know what to bring.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Subject: | Brodhead Get-together |
Sounds great, Jack. I'll be there. What can I bring?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there
Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about
having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers please
let me know. We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. It's a green
and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in
Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails, date and time to be determined.
Can't wait!
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Re: For Dick Navratil |
Dick,
We camp in the 101 Woods area that is west of the private residence
campground. The smiley face balloon (beer tent) is north across the east
west entrance road. Hope to see you there!
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick N
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For Dick Navratil
Sorry I should havw made that reply clearer. My plane will be parked in the
Rotec engines booth. I will be in Camp Scholler.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: For Dick Navratil
> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> So that means you will be parking in Homebuilt Parking, not Homebuilt
> Camping?
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick N
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:13 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For Dick Navratil
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> Hi Kevin
> I think my back isn't going to take sleeping on the ground for that long.
> I
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> am thinking of dropping my camper at OSH next week and picking it up after
> the show.
> Dick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:41 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: For Dick Navratil
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>> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
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>> Dick - Do you plan on camping in homebuilt camping at OSH?
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>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
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>> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>> NX899KP
>> Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Brodhead Get-together |
count me in. Don't know if Karen and our little guy will be there by then
=2C though. We'll bring anything you need
Gene
From: jack@textors.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there Th
ursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about hav
ing brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers please l
et me know. We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. It=92s a gre
en and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in
Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails=2C date and time to be determined.
Can=92t wait!
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Brodhead Get-together |
Looks like it's a party, great! Will miss you Jim, you're on Dan, thanks.
All friends are welcome. Just bring what you plan to drink and we will
handle the rest. Let's hope for CALM weather!
Keep the replies coming in.
Jack and Susan
DSM
Tom W.I copied you, hope you can make it too!
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there
Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about
having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers please
let me know. We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. It's a green
and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in
Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails, date and time to be determined.
Can't wait!
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
My wife Susan and I would like to come. Cheers and thanks for the invite.
=0AGardiner Mason=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ja
ck <jack@textors.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, July
6, 2011 8:40:04 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together =0A=0AB
rodhead Get-together =0ASusan andI would like to host a lunch at Brodhead.
We plan to be there Thursday =0Aevening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh.
We were thinking about havingbratsand =0Ahamburgers Fridayaround 11:00 to
12:00. Anytakersplease let me know. We will =0Ahave ourmotor homeparked i
n the SW 40. It=99s a green and white 37 foot =0AItasca. We would al
so like tohave friends join us in Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for =0Acocktails,
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Subject: | UK Pietenpol Club |
I don't know if many of you have ever looked at the UK Pietenpol Club web site
or facebook pages but there is some good stuff there!
Take a look at them, you don't need to be registered for general browsing, go to:
http://www.facebook.com/ukpietenpolclub
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/
Enjoy UK Pietenpol's,
John Theron
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Subject: | Jack & Sue's offer |
Jack,
Please count me in and let me know what I can contribute. I' am also looking
forward to meeting the members from the list and have lots of questions to be
answered.
Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
route 80 and 47 for anyone passing through.
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Count me in too, Jack! If Dan has you lined up for a ride, I'll swap a ride with
Susan for a brat.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
You're good people, Jack and Susan.
Very generous offer. Thank you.
Reservation for 1, please.
Bill C.
(perhaps we could set up a "donations" jar to help defray the costs. Your hospitality
should not cost you money.)
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Subject: | Brodhead Get-together |
Count me in also Jack. I plan on flying into Brodhead on Thursday evening and leaving
for Oshkosh Sat or Sunday.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack
Sent: 7/6/2011 7:44:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there Thursday
evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about having brats
and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers please let me know.
We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. Its a green and white 37
foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in Oshkosh (Camp Scholler)
for cocktails, date and time to be determined. Cant wait!
Jack
DSM
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Jack,
Count my son, Kevin, and me in. We'll happily add to the donation jar.
Cheers, Ken
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Count me in also Jack. I plan on flying into Brodhead on Thursday evening
> and leaving for Oshkosh Sat or Sunday.
>
> Rick Schreiber
> Valparaiso, IN
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: 7/6/2011 7:44:33 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
>
> Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there
> Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about
> having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers please
> let me know. We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. Its a green
> and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in
> Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails, date and time to be determined.
> Cant wait!
>
> Jack
>
> DSM
>
>
> ________________________________
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Subject: | Re: UK Pietenpol Club |
John,
I will see you and your Lady at Brodhead, to talk over old times and my first visit
to your first club meeting,
Pieti Lowell
Do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Jack,
If I remember where Brodhead is, count me in, and thanks for the invite.
Pieti Lowell
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Thanks, Jack. See you there.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: UK Pietenpol Club |
John,
I look forward to meeting you at Brodhead. I was in London last weekend and took
the Train out to Bicester and saw Peter Wright's Piet G-OFFA as well as G-OHAL.
I joined the UK Pietenpol Club while I was over there. Peter and I correspond fairly
often. I am looking forward to Brodhead in general and getting to meet you
and all the other Forum members in particular.
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Semper Fi,
Terry
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Subject: | Brodhead Get-together |
Please include 2 more for your party!
KMHeide
Hawley, MN
--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 6:02 AM
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> great! Will miss you Jim, youre on Dan,
> thanks. All friends
> are welcome. Just bring what you plan to drink and we
> will handle the
> rest. Lets hope for CALM
> weather!
>
> Keep the
> replies coming in
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> Susan
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> DSM
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> Tom
> WI copied you, hope you can
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> From:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
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> Sent:
> Wednesday, July 06, 2011
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> Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
> Get-together
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> Susan
> and I would like to
> host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to
> be there Thursday evening and depart Saturday for
> Oshkosh . We were thinking about
> having
> brats
> and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00.
> Any takers
> please let me know. We will have our
> motor home
> parked
> in the SW 40. Its a green and white 37 foot
> Itasca .
> We
> would also like to have friends join us in Oshkosh
> ( Camp
> Scholler ) for cocktails, date and time
> to be determined. Cant wait!
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> Jack
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> DSM
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Brodhead Get-togetherJack,
Count me in.
Thanks!
Perry Rhoads
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be
there Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were
thinking about having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00.
Any takers please let me know. We will have our motor home parked in
the SW 40. It's a green and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like
to have friends join us in Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails, date
and time to be determined. Can't wait!
Jack
DSM
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Jack You can count me and Dad in we should be there by thursday weather per
mitting,
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Shad
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Subject: | Re: Jack's invite for lunch at Brodhead. |
Jack, put my name in the pot. Very nice of you all to host us. Let me know
what I can contribute. Also looking forward to meeting all.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
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Subject: | Taylorcraft fly-in |
Hey Don, Shad, Mike and other Ohio area Piet guys,
Any of you going to the T-Craft fly in at Barber field this weekend? Ed and plan
to head up Friday morning. Last year there was 6 or 7 Piets there.
Skip
http://www.barberaircraft.com/events.html
skipgadd@earthlink.net
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Jack
I am coming to brodhead for the first time with notebook and camera in
hand
and would like to join your get together and put faces to all the names.
starting to get excited.
wayne
waterloo on.
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Subject: | Re: Taylorcraft fly-in |
Skipp, I have to work on saturday so I won't make it.- I was hoping to ma
ke a few local fly-ins this year but, due to weather and work I just hope I
am lucky enough to make Brodhead.
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Shad
--- On Thu, 7/7/11, skipgadd@earthlink.net <skipgadd@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: skipgadd@earthlink.net <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Taylorcraft fly-in
Hey Don, Shad, Mike and other Ohio area Piet guys,
Any of you going to the T-Craft fly in at Barber field this weekend? Ed and
plan to head up Friday morning. Last year there was 6 or 7 Piets there.
Skip
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http://www.barberaircraft.com/events.html
skipgadd@earthlink.net
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Jon,
I'd love a picture of N8031 in flight, if you can slow down enough!
Hopefully, the weather will cooperate more this year and you can stick
around longer.
Look me up whenever you get to Brodhead - N8031 is the mostly yellow and
dark blue Piet.
Thanks!
Dan
do not archive
On 07/06/2011 10:17 PM, dog67@aol.com wrote:
> COunt me in - but only if I can chip in.
> BTW - I am bringing my lilttle yellow Glastar to Brodhead, on the way to
> Osh, and was hoping to take the doors off and do some air-to-air
> photography of Piet's in flight. If anyone would like a pic of their
> bird, I'd like the practice.
> Thanks
> jon apfelbaum
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 8:52 pm
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>>
>
> Jack,
>
> I'll only take you up on your offer if I can give you a ride in my Piet.
>
> See you there!
> Dan
>
> On 07/06/2011 07:40 PM, Jack wrote:
>> Susan andI would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there
>> Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about
>> havingbratsand hamburgers Fridayaround 11:00 to 12:00. Anytakersplease
>> let me know. We will have ourmotor homeparked in the SW 40.Its a green
>> and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like tohave friends join us in
>> Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails, date and time to be determined.
>> Cant wait!
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> DSM
>>
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Jack--
Sounds like a great chance to visit. Gloria and I would love to come.
--Mac in Oregon
> Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there
> Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about
> having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers
> please
> let me know. We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. It's a
> green
> and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in
> Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails, date and time to be determined.
> Can't wait!
> Jack
> DSM
>
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Subject: | Re: Routed Fuse slats |
Hey Mike: Since it was your fuse that I saw that cuased me to want to do
this, I was hoping to hear from you on this...
I did make a jig for a trim router as you suggested, but the hole on washers
I used was just a bit too tight. The bit rotated cleanly while it was turned
off, but within 2 seconds of turning the router on, an edge caught the
washer and I had a one edged box core bit left... :o(
Oh well, back out to the money tree to pick off another 20 and back to the
store...
I am not sure the weight difference will be worth the effort, and I am
already going to have to glue a 1/8" ply strip to one of the read diagonals
due to a side breach, but what the heck. I'll just move the final inspection
out one more week and keep moving (that's the final inspection 3 years from
now :o)
I nought a small DeWalt trimmer router that looks easier to maneuver on the
sticks, and I am gonna make another jig, so maybe I'll change my mind and
try the whole fuse. As it is, I am thinking I will just do the inside of the
right side to balance things out and be done...
Thanks for the help!
Mark
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mark, I routed mine before I assembled the parts using a router table so I
> guess I'm not going to be much help. You might be able to make a base plate
> that screws onto your router with a couple of guide pins sticking out to
> locate the bit on the center of the member being routed. You'd still have to
> be careful and it probably isn't worth risking the destruction of your
> fuselage side.
>
> Mike Groah
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
> I have Keri-Ann's door plans, and it shows on there that you can route the
> cross members and some of the fuse pieces with some box bits to save a bit
> of weight. I have tried to do this with a 1/2" box bit and have had
> reasonable success, but I have one diagonal that wandered a bit from center,
> and I want to make a center jig for my trimmer router to get a good, center
> line on the rest of the members.
>
> I made one tonight with a 1/8" thick washer with a 1/2" center hole, and
> attached it to the router. Looked great, and the clearance was very close to
> the hole in the Washerb ut it was free from touching.... until I turned it
> on and the vibration kicked the bit over just a touch and "Whack" there went
> one edge of the Box Bit...
>
> So, for you guys that routed out the centers on the fuse sticks, what did
> you use to jig up the router? I decided to do this after the fuse sides were
> made, so if you did it before the fuse was actually glued together, I guess
> that would'a been a better option, but not one for me...
>
> I am thinking that I might just do the inside rails of the other side and
> call it quits, since I have only routed part of the fuse on the inside side
> of the left fuse side... I'll keep it even, and perhaps skip the outside of
> the fuse... However, I thought it was a neat way to save a bit of weight
> (maybe a very little bit....)
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mark
>
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Subject: | Re: Routed Fuse slats |
Even with a door you're not getting out a hurry. Forget about it, build to
plans, and you'll have a nice flying airplane. If you're worried about
weight, stop going to McDonalds. You'll be healthier, and she'll fly
better....
Ryan
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:06 PM, norm <coevst@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The added door is a worthwhile addition , everyone knows how tough it is
> getting into the front seat ,getting out in a hurry is more important...
> IMHO----NORM
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wed, July 6, 2011 2:52:13 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Routed Fuse slats
>
> This is from adding weight by adding a door to the front cockpit and the
n
> trying to remove a fraction of that weight, while still trying to keep so
me
> of the strength added back to try to make up for the huge loss in strengt
h
> caused by cutting the upper longeron to add said door.
>
>
> Or you could just build it to the plans=85
>
>
> One of the least appreciated design features that Bernard cleverly
> incorporated in the design of this airplane is that the rigors of climbin
g
> into the front cockpit automatically limit the size of passenger that can
be
> accomodated, saving the pilot from having to say =93I=92m sorry, there=92
s no way
> this airplane can lift you off the ground.=94
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Campbel
l
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:26 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Routed Fuse slats
>
>
> Where did this routing of fuselage members come from? I have digested th
e
> plans several times and I see no mention of routing anything except the w
ing
> spars and then only if you're using 1-inch thick spars. Comments?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:07 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Routed Fuse slats
>
>
> Mark, I routed mine before I assembled the parts using a router table so
I
> guess I'm not going to be much help. You might be able to make a base pl
ate
> that screws onto your router with a couple of guide pins sticking out to
> locate the bit on the center of the member being routed. You'd still have
to
> be careful and it probably isn't worth risking the destruction of your
> fuselage side.
>
>
> Mike Groah
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
>
> I have Keri-Ann's door plans, and it shows on there that you can route th
e
> cross members and some of the fuse pieces with some box bits to save a bi
t
> of weight. I have tried to do this with a 1/2" box bit and have had
> reasonable success, but I have one diagonal that wandered a bit from cent
er,
> and I want to make a center jig for my trimmer router to get a good, cent
er
> line on the rest of the members.
>
>
> I made one tonight with a 1/8" thick washer with a 1/2" center hole, and
> attached it to the router. Looked great, and the clearance was very close
to
> the hole in the Washerb ut it was free from touching.... until I turned i
t
> on and the vibration kicked the bit over just a touch and "Whack" there w
ent
> one edge of the Box Bit...
>
>
> So, for you guys that routed out the centers on the fuse sticks, what did
> you use to jig up the router? I decided to do this after the fuse sides w
ere
> made, so if you did it before the fuse was actually glued together, I gue
ss
> that would'a been a better option, but not one for me...
>
>
> I am thinking that I might just do the inside rails of the other side and
> call it quits, since I have only routed part of the fuse on the inside si
de
> of the left fuse side... I'll keep it even, and perhaps skip the outside
of
> the fuse... However, I thought it was a neat way to save a bit of weight
> (maybe a very little bit....)
>
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Mark
>
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Subject: | Re: Routed Fuse slats |
Are you sure you're building an airplane, and not just infatuated with jigs?
do not archive
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
> I nought a small DeWalt trimmer router that looks easier to maneuver on the
> sticks, and I am gonna make another jig<snip>
>
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Subject: | Re: Routed Fuse slats |
Hey Jack!
You're right! Building to the plans is the best way to go... But once my
wife said "I like that door thingy that Charlie has on HIS plane.... How
much money did you say you needed for the next wood purchase? If you want
that money, build me a door..."
I thought about saying to her: "I'm sorry, but there's no way this airplane
can lift you off the ground", but sleeping in our trailer the rest of my
life didn't sound as easy as cutting a door into the plane... :o)
The beef of the actual build is pretty substantial. When I examined the
plans for the door, I saw those large planks of sruce that make up for the
cut in the longeron, and it seemed worth the trade off...
Anyway, my plane will look like a piet, but I have already designed a few
modifications to fit my 6'4" frame that any purest will say I am building a
Mark...
Mark
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrot
e:
> ** ** **
>
> This is from adding weight by adding a door to the front cockpit and then
> trying to remove a fraction of that weight, while still trying to keep so
me
> of the strength added back to try to make up for the huge loss in strengt
h
> caused by cutting the upper longeron to add said door.****
>
> ** **
>
> Or you could just build it to the plans=85****
>
> ** **
>
> One of the least appreciated design features that Bernard cleverly
> incorporated in the design of this airplane is that the rigors of climbin
g
> into the front cockpit automatically limit the size of passenger that can
be
> accomodated, saving the pilot from having to say =93I=92m sorry, there=92
s no way
> this airplane can lift you off the ground.=94****
>
> ** **
>
> Jack Phillips****
>
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94****
>
> ****Smith Mountain Lake**, **Virginia********
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Campbel
l
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:26 PM
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Routed Fuse slats
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Where did this routing of fuselage members come from? I have digested th
e
> plans several times and I see no mention of routing anything except the w
ing
> spars and then only if you're using 1-inch thick spars. Comments?****
>
> ----- Original Message ----- ****
>
> *From:* Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com> ****
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com ****
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:07 PM****
>
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Routed Fuse slats****
>
> ** **
>
> Mark, I routed mine before I assembled the parts using a router table so
I
> guess I'm not going to be much help. You might be able to make a base pl
ate
> that screws onto your router with a couple of guide pins sticking out to
> locate the bit on the center of the member being routed. You'd still have
to
> be careful and it probably isn't worth risking the destruction of your
> fuselage side. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Mike Groah****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone****
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:*
*
> **
>
> Hi All: ****
>
> ** **
>
> I have Keri-Ann's door plans, and it shows on there that you can route th
e
> cross members and some of the fuse pieces with some box bits to save a bi
t
> of weight. I have tried to do this with a 1/2" box bit and have had
> reasonable success, but I have one diagonal that wandered a bit from cent
er,
> and I want to make a center jig for my trimmer router to get a good, cent
er
> line on the rest of the members.****
>
> ** **
>
> I made one tonight with a 1/8" thick washer with a 1/2" center hole, and
> attached it to the router. Looked great, and the clearance was very close
to
> the hole in the Washerb ut it was free from touching.... until I turned i
t
> on and the vibration kicked the bit over just a touch and "Whack" there w
ent
> one edge of the Box Bit...****
>
> ** **
>
> So, for you guys that routed out the centers on the fuse sticks, what did
> you use to jig up the router? I decided to do this after the fuse sides w
ere
> made, so if you did it before the fuse was actually glued together, I gue
ss
> that would'a been a better option, but not one for me...****
>
> ** **
>
> I am thinking that I might just do the inside rails of the other side and
> call it quits, since I have only routed part of the fuse on the inside si
de
> of the left fuse side... I'll keep it even, and perhaps skip the outside
of
> the fuse... However, I thought it was a neat way to save a bit of weight
> (maybe a very little bit....)****
>
> ** **
>
> Suggestions?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks.****
>
> ** **
>
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Subject: | Re: Routed Fuse slats |
Thanks guys...
I do think you are correct. THe weight savings is minimal and the risk of
screwing up something is too great. I have already started on the inside of
the left side. I thing I will just do the same on the right and call it
even.
Thanks for the advice! And, thank to the group for being friendly enough to
ask a question MOST would think rather stupid, as the real answer would be
"Build it to plans, dummy!"
This is a great bunch to share ideas with, and I appreciate the respect
offered to answer even stupid questions!
Mark
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I routed my spars, which -- after quite a bit of head scratching to
> figure out a way to jig everything in place -- turned out to be
> comparatively simple. I took a bunch of pictures, which I can share,
> if that would be useful.
>
> I didn't try to route the fuselage pieces. I think the weight savings
> would be hard to justify, relative to the risk of screwing something
> up.
>
> Besides routers produce a lot of torque. If you raise the tail of the
> fuselage with the router spinning, you'll be dealing with p-factor,
> too. If you aren't quick with your feet, you might find yourself off
> the side of your shop.
>
> Ken
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> billspiet@sympatico.ca>
> >
> > Sorry, I have no first-hand experience to offer. I don't believe that
> many builders have routed their fuselage members, so there likely won't be a
> lot of feedback to your question.
> >
> > I guess you already know the risks involved (having had one cut wander
> off of center). One small slip, and you're into re-building, rather than
> building. I'm not convinced that the benefits outweigh (hey, there's a pun)
> the risks.
> > I imagine that the weight savings are minimal, and the actual doing of
> the work sounds like a pain in the butt (especially with the fuse
> assembled). Additionally, routing WILL weaken the structure, so you really
> have to be careful where the routing is done, to ensure that critical
> components are not compromised.
> > I'd keep the routing to a minimum. That's what I did (I have none).
> >
> > Bill C.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345111#345111
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: | Another Piet in AVweb's POTW contest |
For the third time in about a month, AVweb's Picture of the Week contest features
a Pietenpol. And two of those three photos are of Ben Charvet's Piet. Here's
a link to the large version of the photo:
http://www.avweb.com/newspics/potw/1726/large/11.jpg
Bill C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345287#345287
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Subject: | Re: Routed Fuse slats |
I am enjoying the process and building a plane at the same time...
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you sure you're building an airplane, and not just infatuated with
> jigs?
>
> do not archive
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I nought a small DeWalt trimmer router that looks easier to maneuver on
>> the sticks, and I am gonna make another jig<snip>
>>
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
I'm there Dan :)
SHould be fun.
Yeah... last year the wx god's didn't cooperate very much. I'm much more h
opeful this year :)
CHeers
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 5:39 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Jon,
I'd love a picture of N8031 in flight, if you can slow down enough!
Hopefully, the weather will cooperate more this year and you can stick
around longer.
Look me up whenever you get to Brodhead - N8031 is the mostly yellow and
dark blue Piet.
Thanks!
Dan
do not archive
On 07/06/2011 10:17 PM, dog67@aol.com wrote:
> COunt me in - but only if I can chip in.
> BTW - I am bringing my lilttle yellow Glastar to Brodhead, on the way to
> Osh, and was hoping to take the doors off and do some air-to-air
> photography of Piet's in flight. If anyone would like a pic of their
> bird, I'd like the practice.
> Thanks
> jon apfelbaum
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 8:52 pm
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov
<mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>>
>
> Jack,
>
> I'll only take you up on your offer if I can give you a ride in my Piet.
>
> See you there!
> Dan
>
> On 07/06/2011 07:40 PM, Jack wrote:
>> Susan andI would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there
>> Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking abou
t
>> havingbratsand hamburgers Fridayaround 11:00 to 12:00. Anytakersplease
>> let me know. We will have ourmotor homeparked in the SW 40.It=99s
a green
>> and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like tohave friends join us in
>> Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails, date and time to be determined.
>> Can=99t wait!
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> DSM
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
> --
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<http://fermigrid.fnal.gov/>
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Hey Skip...
I plan to be there early Saturday morning. I was going to take the Chief, but
since it isn't quite finished in the interior and looks a little funny I'll probably
take the Piet. See you then!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Jack, please count Theresa and I in as well... and I'll see you at Oshkosh for
that drink too. Ha! This is going to be awesome!
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Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | 1935 Pilot's catalogue...! |
Hello list,
I found a 1938 "Karl Ort" catalog in an antique store two weeks ago and then bought
this 1935 version on eBay. I had never heard of Karl Ort but this is an AMAZING
reference for the kind of pilot and airplane supplies that were available
in the mid 1930's. OK, so I know the Piet was designed in 1928 and generally
considered a 1929 design, but this is as close as I could find to a vintage
parts catalog...!
The 1938 catalog has lots more jewelry and novelties (clocks, desk radios with
an art deco look, etc..) than this 1935 version, which is loaded airplane construction
parts and materials (instruments, plywood, tubing, dope, etc...) most
of which no longer are listed in the 1938 version - interesting evolution.
WARNING: The attachment is 6MB - but be it known that the original scan was over
80MB before I compressed it. So it is not quite as easy to read in the compressed
version, sorry......
Enjoy.........
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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part B
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Thanks for sharing some great history!
Curtis Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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Wow, that's pretty neat.
Very interesting how much they had to offer. I guess a lot of it was probably war
surplus.
Good deals on instruments (Zenith Height gauge, Johnson Airspeed Indicator, etc)
and hardware (turnbuckles, shackles, etc.) and Sitka Spruce! An 18 foot long
spar (1" x 5") for the tidy sum of $5.25!
Thanks for sharing.
Bill C.
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Subject: | Brodhead get-together |
Wow Jack,
You are going to have to float a loan in order to pay for the food at this
shindig. Methinks we all better bring chairs and a few bucks for the jar :
O) Thanks for doing this. Somebody should have thought of this a long time
ago :O) Can't wait to meet everyone.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Subject: | 1935 Pilot's catalogue...! |
Chin up, Sport! My plans are dated "1937"!
Thanks,
Gary
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1935 Pilot's catalogue...!
Hello list,
I found a 1938 "Karl Ort" catalog in an antique store two weeks ago and then
bought this 1935 version on eBay. I had never heard of Karl Ort but this is
an AMAZING reference for the kind of pilot and airplane supplies that were
available in the mid 1930's. OK, so I know the Piet was designed in 1928 and
generally considered a 1929 design, but this is as close as I could find to
a vintage parts catalog...!
The 1938 catalog has lots more jewelry and novelties (clocks, desk radios
with an art deco look, etc..) than this 1935 version, which is loaded
airplane construction parts and materials (instruments, plywood, tubing,
dope, etc...) most of which no longer are listed in the 1938 version -
interesting evolution.
WARNING: The attachment is 6MB - but be it known that the original scan was
over 80MB before I compressed it. So it is not quite as easy to read in the
compressed version, sorry......
Enjoy.........
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Jake,
Wow that is cool. I especially like the "Elgin" gauges. I didn't realize th
ey had made any aircraft gauges. I lived in Elgin, IL., home of the famous
Elgin National Watch Company, for 17 years. I searched high and low for a
vintage Elgin aircraft clock. Found one on Ebay, and it is in my Piet, stil
l proudly ticking away. Thanks for sharing this.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: aerocarjake <flight.jake@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 4:18 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1935 Pilot's catalogue...!
part B
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ewport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Jack,
What a great offer! Jan and I will be there. We will have a car there, so let
us know if we can get any supplies.
Charlie and Jan McFarland
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Subject: | Re: Routed Fuse slats |
Mark=2C
As you know=2C we routed our frame work other than the bottom longeron and
the uprights that carry the control shaft=2C which we left to plan. The th
ing is we did it before assembly. That allowed us to do it on a table shap
er- router. Much easier to manage. I admit the weight savings is not grea
t but neither is the loss of strength. We have been told over and over tha
t the plane is overbuilt.
The folks on this forum are very nice and in spite of kidding you a bit are
here to help you. We have learned a lot from the site and those on it. T
hank you all. Vic 414MV Putting on fabric.
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Routed Fuse slats
From: mark.rbrts1@gmail.com
Thanks guys...
I do think you are correct. THe weight savings is minimal and the risk of s
crewing up something is too great. I have already started on the inside of
the left side. I thing I will just do the same on the right and call it eve
n.
Thanks for the advice! And=2C thank to the group for being friendly enough
to ask a question MOST would think rather stupid=2C as the real answer woul
d be "Build it to plans=2C dummy!"
This is a great bunch to share ideas with=2C and I appreciate the respect o
ffered to answer even stupid questions!
Mark
On Wed=2C Jul 6=2C 2011 at 8:32 AM=2C Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> w
rote:
I routed my spars=2C which -- after quite a bit of head scratching to
figure out a way to jig everything in place -- turned out to be
comparatively simple. I took a bunch of pictures=2C which I can share=2C
if that would be useful.
I didn't try to route the fuselage pieces. I think the weight savings
would be hard to justify=2C relative to the risk of screwing something
up.
Besides routers produce a lot of torque. If you raise the tail of the
fuselage with the router spinning=2C you'll be dealing with p-factor=2C
too. If you aren't quick with your feet=2C you might find yourself off
the side of your shop.
Ken
On Wed=2C Jul 6=2C 2011 at 8:39 AM=2C Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
ca>
>
> Sorry=2C I have no first-hand experience to offer. I don't believe that m
any builders have routed their fuselage members=2C so there likely won't be
a lot of feedback to your question.
>
> I guess you already know the risks involved (having had one cut wander of
f of center). One small slip=2C and you're into re-building=2C rather than
building. I'm not convinced that the benefits outweigh (hey=2C there's a pu
n) the risks.
> I imagine that the weight savings are minimal=2C and the actual doing of
the work sounds like a pain in the butt (especially with the fuse assembled
). Additionally=2C routing WILL weaken the structure=2C so you really have
to be careful where the routing is done=2C to ensure that critical componen
ts are not compromised.
> I'd keep the routing to a minimum. That's what I did (I have none).
>
> Bill C.
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Holy cow what a response, this will be a great time! Susan is already
taking charge. I appreciate all the kind remarks and thoughts. No need for
side dishes or donations. Just show up with your smile, willingness to
help, drink of choice, lounge chair and hopefully not an umbrella. May the
weather gods be with us for Brodhead and Oshkosh!
Safe travels to all!
Jack
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:03 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Looks like it's a party, great! Will miss you Jim, you're on Dan, thanks.
All friends are welcome. Just bring what you plan to drink and we will
handle the rest. Let's hope for CALM weather!
Keep the replies coming in.
Jack and Susan
DSM
Tom W.I copied you, hope you can make it too!
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there
Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about
having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers please
let me know. We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. It's a green
and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in
Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails, date and time to be determined.
Can't wait!
Jack
DSM
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Gunna need a bigger motor home.
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Holy cow what a response, this will be a great time! Susan is already
taking charge. I appreciate all the kind remarks and thoughts. No need for
side dishes or donations. Just show up with your smile, willingness to
help, drink of choice, lounge chair and hopefully not an umbrella. May the
weather gods be with us for Brodhead and Oshkosh!
Safe travels to all!
Jack
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:03 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Looks like it's a party, great! Will miss you Jim, you're on Dan, thanks.
All friends are welcome. Just bring what you plan to drink and we will
handle the rest. Let's hope for CALM weather!
Keep the replies coming in.
Jack and Susan
DSM
Tom W.I copied you, hope you can make it too!
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together
Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there
Thursday evening and depart Saturday for Oshkosh. We were thinking about
having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00. Any takers please
let me know. We will have our motor home parked in the SW 40. It's a green
and white 37 foot Itasca. We would also like to have friends join us in
Oshkosh (Camp Scholler) for cocktails, date and time to be determined.
Can't wait!
Jack
DSM
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I know many but I don't know all name tags?
John
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-----Original message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 23:12:14 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead get-together
Wow Jack,
You are going to have to float a loan in order to pay for the food at this
shindig. Methinks we all better bring chairs and a few bucks for the jar
:O) Thanks for doing this. Somebody should have thought of this a long time
ago :O) Can't wait to meet everyone.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Subject: | Invitation to connect on LinkedIn |
LinkedIn
------------
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Tom
Tom Travis
Independent Aviation & Aerospace Professional
Sherman/Denison, Texas Area
Confirm that you know Tom Travis
https://www.linkedin.com/e/-wv0hti-gpuh1wmj-5d/isd/3468049304/PfCSJXwD/
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Shirts are encouraged too....Gardiner.... ;-)
I dunno...last year's weather was fun:
http://www.youtube.com/user/rmpanzer23#p/u/7/OayCWX5REXg
Thanks Gene. Which reminds me....if anyone needs to have precious,
irreplaceable family memories forever wiped from their camera cards, make
sure to look me up. Can also remove photos of GN-1's, or the remnants of
your memories of the long night you had after too much boiled fish and
scotch. :-)
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> ** ** ** ** **
>
> Holy cow what a response, this will be a great time! Susan is already
> taking charge. I appreciate all the kind remarks and thoughts. No need
for
> side dishes or donations. Just show up with your smile, willingness to
> help, drink of choice, lounge chair and hopefully not an umbrella. May t
he
> weather gods be with us for Brodhead and ****Oshkosh****!****
>
> Safe travels to all!****
>
> Jack****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:03 AM
>
> *To:* **pietenpol-list@matronics.com**
> *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together ****
>
> ** **
>
> Looks like it=92s a party, great! Will miss you Jim, you=92re on Dan, th
anks.
> All friends are welcome. Just bring what you plan to drink and we will
> handle the rest. Let=92s hope for CALM weather!****
>
> Keep the replies coming in=85****
>
> Jack and Susan****
>
> DSM****
>
> Tom W=85I copied you, hope you can make it too!****
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:40 PM
> *To:* **pietenpol-list@matronics.com**
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Get-together ****
>
> ** **
>
> Susan and I would like to host a lunch at Brodhead. We plan to be there
> Thursday evening and depart Saturday for ****Oshkosh****. We were
> thinking about having brats and hamburgers Friday around 11:00 to 12:00.
> Any takers please let me know. We will have our motor home parked in the
> SW 40. It=92s a green and white 37 foot **Itasca**. We would also like
to
> have friends join us in **Oshkosh** (****Camp** **Scholler****) for
> cocktails, date and time to be determined. Can=92t wait!****
>
> Jack****
>
> DSM****
>
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>
> * *
>
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>
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Subject: | Brodhead get-together |
Doc Mosher will have name tags for all, as soon as you register.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Amsafetyc@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead get-together
I know many but I don't know all name tags?
John
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-----Original message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 23:12:14 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead get-together
Wow Jack,
You are going to have to float a loan in order to pay for the food at
this
shindig. Methinks we all better bring chairs and a few bucks for the jar
:O) Thanks for doing this. Somebody should have thought of this a long
time
ago :O) Can't wait to meet everyone.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
&~2=03
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Just thinking about marginal late arrivals having to make the choice of docs
line or Jacks motor home. Would be nice to have the option of choice jacks
and on time or docs and missing jacks
John
Just looking at options
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From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 8, 2011 01:54:45 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead get-together
Doc Mosher will have name tags for all, as soon as you register.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Amsafetyc@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead get-together
I know many but I don't know all name tags?
John
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-----Original message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 23:12:14 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead get-together
Wow Jack,
You are going to have to float a loan in order to pay for the food at this
shindig. Methinks we all better bring chairs and a few bucks for the jar
:O) Thanks for doing this. Somebody should have thought of this a long time
ago :O) Can't wait to meet everyone.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
&~2
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Mary & I will be there. Looking forward to it. Let us know how we can help.
- Pat
Patrick Hoyt
N63PZ - 601XL/Corvair 99.99%
Piet/A65 - Under Construction with a bunch of good friends
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead get-together |
I'm not quite sure what to make of your post....there's talk of doc's, and
choice jacks....looking at all the options....you do understand Brodhead is
not a key party? Although we will grease you up if need be..after some
scotch...and glorious Muenster curds from Decatur Dairy....
please do not archive
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:17 PM, amsafetyc@aol.com <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote
:
> Just thinking about marginal late arrivals having to make the choice of
> docs line or Jacks motor home. Would be nice to have the option of choice
> jacks and on time or docs and missing jacks
>
> John
>
> Just looking at options
>
>
> Do not archive
>
> *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless*
>
>
> -----Original message-----
>
> *From: *Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>*
> To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *
> Sent: *Fri, Jul 8, 2011 01:54:45 GMT+00:00*
> Subject: *RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead get-together
>
> ** ** **
>
> Doc Mosher will have name tags for all, as soon as you register.****
>
> ** **
>
> Jack Phillips****
>
> NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94****
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia****
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *
> Amsafetyc@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:30 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead get-together****
>
> ** **
>
> I know many but I don't know all name tags?
>
> John
>
> Do not archive
>
> *Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless*****
>
>
> -----Original message-----****
>
> *From: *helspersew@aol.com*
> To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com*
> Sent: *Thu, Jul 7, 2011 23:12:14 GMT+00:00*
> Subject: *Pietenpol-List: Brodhead get-together****
>
> Wow Jack,****
>
> ****
>
> You are going to have to float a loan in order to pay for the food at thi
s
> shindig. Methinks we all better bring chairs and a few bucks for the jar
> :O) Thanks for doing this. Somebody should have thought of this a long t
ime
> ago :O) Can't wait to meet everyone.****
>
> ****
>
> Dan Helsper****
>
> ****Puryear**, **TN********
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> **
>
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> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
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> *http://forums.matronics.com*
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> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution*
>
> * *
>
> &~2
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead get-together |
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Subject: | FW: RV10-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... |
Here's a shot that appeared on the RV List. I'd like to see something
similar with Pietenpols, but it would probably have to be a Jenny or a
Sopwith Camel, rather than a P-51 Mustang
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Subject: | Re: FW: RV10-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... |
Yeah, a Mustang won't hang....it brought to mind this vid...pretty cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6PnKUEFX8g
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
> Here's a shot that appeared on the RV List. I'd like to see something
> similar with Pietenpols, but it would probably have to be a Jenny or a
> Sopwith Camel, rather than a P-51 Mustang
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Hi Jack,
Arlene and I would=C2- like to come as well. Can we bring something; i.e.
need beer or brats?
Jim B.
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
In the spirit of "piling on" Sue and I will be there. Just make sure there's no
lutefisk. This IS Wisconsin, you know, and someone might try to sneak some
in.
Dave and Sue Aldrich
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345407#345407
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead Get-together |
Sorry, eating the lye fish is sort of a rite........live it, love it. And
after that...the braunschweiger.....I look forward to when you beg for some
cheese...and they give you Limburger....... ;-)
do not archive
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:51 PM, dgaldrich <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
>
> In the spirit of "piling on" Sue and I will be there. Just make sure
> there's no lutefisk. This IS Wisconsin, you know, and someone might try to
> sneak some in.
>
> Dave and Sue Aldrich
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345407#345407
>
>
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