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     1. 01:54 AM - Re: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM)
     2. 05:37 AM - Re: Diesel (Chris Rusch)
     3. 05:43 AM - Re: Best way to cut metal fittings? (olflyr45)
     4. 05:44 AM - Lucky Stiffs (Lawrence Williams)
     5. 05:48 AM - Progress!! (Chris Rusch)
     6. 05:55 AM - Head start on a project (olflyr45)
     7. 06:56 AM - Re: Progress!! (Pieti Lowell)
     8. 07:28 AM - Re: Progress!! (Jim Markle)
     9. 07:31 AM - Re: Progress!! (Chris Rusch)
    10. 07:33 AM - Introductions (Three-Wire)
    11. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
    12. 07:57 AM - Another question about the pilot's seat (Oscar Zuniga)
    13. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat (Ryan Mueller)
    14. 09:24 AM - Re: Introductions (Jerry Dotson)
    15. 12:16 PM - Re: Progress!! (aerocarjake)
    16. 04:06 PM - Re: Progress!! (Pieti Lowell)
    17. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Progress!! (Ryan Mueller)
    18. 05:48 PM - Ride swapping at Brodhead (shad bell)
    19. 05:52 PM - Re: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat (shad bell)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Another question about the pilot's seat | 
      
      
      Perhaps one of the seats from Oregon Aero is your simple solution. they use a memory
      foam that is super comfortable for long trips. Then you can still be a purist.
      
      
      Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: helspersew@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
      
      
      > 
      > Listers,
      > 
      > Being a purist, (almost a parody of myself at this point) I'll have 
      > to admit (albeit reluctantly) that the flat seat back gets to me 
      > after only a short time. You know those two bones that kind of 
      > stick out of your lower back? About 4-5 inches apart? At waist 
      > level. Those two bones rub into that seat back and it becomes very 
      > sore very fast. I am going to slide my rubber mouse pad down into 
      > my pants behind my belt. That should fix it! This is technically a 
      > part of my wardrobe, and not an alteration or addition to the BHP 
      > plans. No comments please.
      > 
      > Dan Helsper
      > Puryear, TN
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Bill Church <
      > To: pietenpol-list <
      > Sent: Mon, Jul 11, 2011 12:22 pm
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
      > 
      > 
      > Robert,
      > hanks for providing the photos. Looks good. You are doing some nice work there.
      
      > ope you didn't mind being "exposed".
      > see you made your seat bottom with slats. My original idea was to do the seat
      
      > ottom and back using slats, just like the Adirondack chairs, but then thought
      
      > t might get too heavy, so decided that plywood would be a better choice. Slats
      
      > s definitely easier than curving plywood.
      > 'll look for you at Brodhead.
      > Bill C.
      > 
      > 
      > ead this topic online here:
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345926#345926
      > 
      > 
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      well i know a little about it......My Dad  (Lynn Rusch) built a Mercedes Benz Diesel
      powered Piet back it 1975-76 for Doug Rhode, i was only 8 years old at the
      time but i do remember it pretty good. Doug was the pilot at the time and it
      never had enough power to keep it in the air and on the maiden flight it nosed
      over coming down.......not real bad, but enough to say that engine wasnt going
      to work. I believe it ended up with a continental engine and traveled all
      around the country with a few different owners. The last i heard the plane is
      sitting in a storage shed 10 miles away from where it was built KMTW....i just
      happen to be finishing the sister plane that my dad was building for himself
      at the same time. I have a few newspaper clippings of the diesel powered piet,
      it was a big deal at the time. I remember my dad telling me they went to visit
      Bernard and discussed the engine installation/choice face to face....
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346036#346036
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Best way to cut metal fittings? | 
      
      
      Ideally you would want to have 3 teeth of the saw blade in the metal during the
      cut.  If you are cutting .060 sheet for instance the blade should have .020 between
      the teeth or 50 teeth per inch.  This will prevent hanging and tearing
      the teeth off the blade.  Of course with very thin stock you just can't get blades
      fine enough so get the finest pitch you can and feed the stock slowly.  
           In doing the layout you need to make sure that the grain of the metal is in
      line with the stress that is going to be in the finished fitting to get maximum
      strength.  If you look closely at the raw metal you can see a grain in it
      similar to what you see in a piece of wood.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346038#346038
      
      
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      Kevin-
      
      Get a new airport and ditch the radio.........simple!
      
      Larry
      
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      Set the Mits engine in place for the first time.......i think it looks pretty cool!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346040#346040
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1718_665.jpg
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| Subject:  | Head start on a project | 
      
      
      I have a fuselage and tail group from a Pietenpol which has about 200 hrs on it.
      If you're going to build one this could get you in the air 6 months sooner.
      If interested Reply to wyliejohnson45@gmail.com and I'll send you pictures.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346041#346041
      
      
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      Chris,
      Is there a thrust bearing in your Al shaft adapter housing ? A great installation.
      Looks like it will do the job. Is it direct connected.
      Do I see a blunter leading edge on the wing profile ?, Or is it all Pietenpol ?
      Pieti Lowell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346051#346051
      
      
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      I think it looks WAY cool!  That's pretty neat....it's gonna be fun seeing/hearing
      a prop spin in front of that engine!
      
      jm
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Chris Rusch <rmdinfo@lakefield.net>
      >Sent: Jul 12, 2011 5:45 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress!!
      >
      >
      >Set the Mits engine in place for the first time.......i think it looks pretty
      cool!
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346040#346040
      >
      >
      >Attachments: 
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1718_665.jpg
      >http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1717_678.jpg
      >
      >
      
      
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      Yes there are two timken bearings and a isolator ring seperating the crank from
      the prop spindle.
      The wing is riblet 612...
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346055#346055
      
      
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      Ladies & Gentlemen,
      
      Ive been reading the posts of this group for a couple of years now and think its
      time to introduce myself.  My wife and I have each wanted to build an airplane
      since before we met and settled on a Piet as hopefully our first of several.
      Last year we bought Ken Heides project to give ourselves a head-start on the
      Piet but life intervened and we havent been able to make any progress since
      bringing it home.
      
      Now my A&P schooling is done, work is stable for the time being, were perilously
      close to owning a house in an airpark outside of Wichita, and I think after
      Oshkosh we can start clearing out our small hangar and turn Kens project into
      our Piet.  
      
      Weve been planning on tent camping at Brodhead Friday night through Sunday morning
      on our way to Oshkosh this year and Im looking forward to meeting some of
      the characters whose posts Ive read.  Ive got a ton of questions about several
      aspects of the Piet and am excited to soak up some of the knowledge at Brodhead.
      
      So this is my Hello, thank you for sharing the wonderful wealth of information
      that is on these boards, and I hope to be able to contribute some of my own experiences
      over time.  Thanks for listening, and I look forward to meeting you
      in less than two weeks.
      
      Rob Heap
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346058#346058
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Another question about the pilot's seat | 
      
      
      Yea, that will work good till I cover the bottom of the fuse ;)
      Skip
      
      
      > [Original Message]
      > WoW!!  Flip the flap up in flight and it looks like you've got quite a
      nice way to relieve yourself... :D
      
      > Lorin Miller
      
      
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| Subject:  | Another question about the pilot's seat | 
      
      
      
      >Flip the flap up in flight and it looks like you've got
      >quite a nice way to relieve yourself...
      
      The relieving is not so bad; it's the cleanup afterwards that is no fun.
      Of course, I suppose you could put a disposable plastic liner in there
      prior to the flight.
      
      Yikes!  Mr. Pietenpol would be shakin' his head at all this!
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
      Medford, OR
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Another question about the pilot's seat | 
      
      Or....maybe he could superglue it to the inside of an adult diaper, then
      wear that. Nah, strike that....it's going to be fun watching Dan constantly
      shoving his hand down the back of his pants to search for his "mouse
      pad"....  :)
      
      do not archive
      
      On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM <
      steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:
      
      > <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      >
      > Perhaps one of the seats from Oregon Aero is your simple solution. they use
      > a memory foam that is super comfortable for long trips. Then you can still
      > be a purist.
      >
      > Blue Skies,
      > Steve D
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: helspersew@aol.com
      > Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:34
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >
      >
      > >
      > > Listers,
      > >
      > > Being a purist, (almost a parody of myself at this point) I'll have
      > > to admit (albeit reluctantly) that the flat seat back gets to me
      > > after only a short time. You know those two bones that kind of
      > > stick out of your lower back? About 4-5 inches apart? At waist
      > > level. Those two bones rub into that seat back and it becomes very
      > > sore very fast. I am going to slide my rubber mouse pad down into
      > > my pants behind my belt. That should fix it! This is technically a
      > > part of my wardrobe, and not an alteration or addition to the BHP
      > > plans. No comments please.
      > >
      > > Dan Helsper
      > > Puryear, TN
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: Bill Church <
      > > To: pietenpol-list <
      > > Sent: Mon, Jul 11, 2011 12:22 pm
      > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
      > >
      > >
      > > Robert,
      > > hanks for providing the photos. Looks good. You are doing some nice work
      > there.
      > > ope you didn't mind being "exposed".
      > > see you made your seat bottom with slats. My original idea was to do the
      > seat
      > > ottom and back using slats, just like the Adirondack chairs, but then
      > thought
      > > t might get too heavy, so decided that plywood would be a better choice.
      > Slats
      > > s definitely easier than curving plywood.
      > > 'll look for you at Brodhead.
      > > Bill C.
      > >
      > >
      > > ead this topic online here:
      > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345926#345926
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Introductions | 
      
      
      Welcome Rob. I am one of those that is still walking but working on my Piet daily.
      It will fly. When.............? Just try to do SOMETHING each day however
      small it may be. That is my approach. I decided early on if it flies it depends
      on me entirely to finish it. I hope to fly this year. I have not started covering
      yet so I may be surprised and say I hope to fly it 2012.
      
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      Baker, FL 32531
      
      Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
      using Lycoming O-235
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346081#346081
      
      
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      Looks like the island of "Mits-fits" toys...!
      
      --------
      Jake Schultz - curator,
      Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346103#346103
      
      
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      Chris.
      Look me up at Brodhead, I will give you a Riblett ride. I also use a thrust bearing
      between the front main and the prop. With a prop extension a quick prop change
      is valuable to find the proper pitch and diameter.
      Pieti Lowell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346140#346140
      
      
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      I'll bring the KY!
      
      please god do not archive
      
      On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>wrote:
      
      > Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
      >
      > Chris.
      > Look me up at Brodhead, I will give you a Riblett ride. I also use a thrust
      > bearing between the front main and the prop. With a prop extension a quick
      > prop change is valuable to find the proper pitch and diameter.
      > Pieti Lowell
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346140#346140
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Ride swapping at Brodhead | 
      
      Pieti Lowell, I might like to bum a ride in a Ford Piet myself.- I am 180
       lbs, so if I am not to fat I would love to swap rides, that is if your not
       affraid of the corvair.- I am still not sure if we are heading up on wed
      , or thurs, if the weather is good and I can get a baby sitter for wed morn
      ing, I will try to blast off then.- I wouldn't mind catching a ride in a 
      cont powered Pipet as well, just to compare it to our piet, it's the only o
      ne I have flown in.
      -
      Shad Bell
      NX92GB
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Another question about the pilot's seat | 
      
      Berrnie would agree that we DO reserve the right to get smarter!- OK now 
      I will duck and avoid the cross fire
      -
      Shad
      
      --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
      
      
      Or....maybe he could superglue it to the inside of an adult diaper, then we
      ar that. Nah, strike that....it's going to be fun watching Dan constantly s
      hoving his hand down the back of his pants to search for his "mouse pad"...
      . -:)
      
      
      do not archive
      
      
      On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM <steven
      .d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:
      
      <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
      
      Perhaps one of the seats from Oregon Aero is your simple solution. they use
       a memory foam that is super comfortable for long trips. Then you can still
       be a purist.
      
      Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: helspersew@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
      
      
      >
      > Listers,
      >
      > Being a purist, (almost a parody of myself at this point) I'll have
      > to admit (albeit reluctantly) that the flat seat back gets to me
      > after only a short time. You know those two bones that kind of
      > stick out of your lower back? About 4-5 inches apart? At waist
      > level. Those two bones rub into that seat back and it becomes very
      > sore very fast. I am going to slide my rubber mouse pad down into
      > my pants behind my belt. That should fix it! This is technically a
      > part of my wardrobe, and not an alteration or addition to the BHP
      > plans. No comments please.
      >
      > Dan Helsper
      > Puryear, TN
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Bill Church <
      > To: pietenpol-list <
      > Sent: Mon, Jul 11, 2011 12:22 pm
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
      >
      >
      > Robert,
      > hanks for providing the photos. Looks good. You are doing some nice work 
      there.
      > ope you didn't mind being "exposed".
      > see you made your seat bottom with slats. My original idea was to do the 
      seat
      > ottom and back using slats, just like the Adirondack chairs, but then tho
      ught
      > t might get too heavy, so decided that plywood would be a better choice. 
      Slats
      > s definitely easier than curving plywood.
      > 'll look for you at Brodhead.
      > Bill C.
      
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