Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/12/11


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 01:54 AM - Re: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM)
     2. 05:37 AM - Re: Diesel (Chris Rusch)
     3. 05:43 AM - Re: Best way to cut metal fittings? (olflyr45)
     4. 05:44 AM - Lucky Stiffs (Lawrence Williams)
     5. 05:48 AM - Progress!! (Chris Rusch)
     6. 05:55 AM - Head start on a project (olflyr45)
     7. 06:56 AM - Re: Progress!! (Pieti Lowell)
     8. 07:28 AM - Re: Progress!! (Jim Markle)
     9. 07:31 AM - Re: Progress!! (Chris Rusch)
    10. 07:33 AM - Introductions (Three-Wire)
    11. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
    12. 07:57 AM - Another question about the pilot's seat (Oscar Zuniga)
    13. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat (Ryan Mueller)
    14. 09:24 AM - Re: Introductions (Jerry Dotson)
    15. 12:16 PM - Re: Progress!! (aerocarjake)
    16. 04:06 PM - Re: Progress!! (Pieti Lowell)
    17. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Progress!! (Ryan Mueller)
    18. 05:48 PM - Ride swapping at Brodhead (shad bell)
    19. 05:52 PM - Re: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat (shad bell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:54:09 AM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
    Perhaps one of the seats from Oregon Aero is your simple solution. they use a memory foam that is super comfortable for long trips. Then you can still be a purist. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat > > Listers, > > Being a purist, (almost a parody of myself at this point) I'll have > to admit (albeit reluctantly) that the flat seat back gets to me > after only a short time. You know those two bones that kind of > stick out of your lower back? About 4-5 inches apart? At waist > level. Those two bones rub into that seat back and it becomes very > sore very fast. I am going to slide my rubber mouse pad down into > my pants behind my belt. That should fix it! This is technically a > part of my wardrobe, and not an alteration or addition to the BHP > plans. No comments please. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Church < > To: pietenpol-list < > Sent: Mon, Jul 11, 2011 12:22 pm > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat > > > Robert, > hanks for providing the photos. Looks good. You are doing some nice work there. > ope you didn't mind being "exposed". > see you made your seat bottom with slats. My original idea was to do the seat > ottom and back using slats, just like the Adirondack chairs, but then thought > t might get too heavy, so decided that plywood would be a better choice. Slats > s definitely easier than curving plywood. > 'll look for you at Brodhead. > Bill C. > > > ead this topic online here: > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345926#345926 > > > > -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - > -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse > -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, > -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > -= Photoshare, and much much more: > - > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > - > -========================-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! > - > -= --> http://forums.matronics.com > - > -========================-= - List Contribution Web Site - > -= Thank you for your generous support! > -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -======================= >


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    Time: 05:37:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Diesel
    From: "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@lakefield.net>
    well i know a little about it......My Dad (Lynn Rusch) built a Mercedes Benz Diesel powered Piet back it 1975-76 for Doug Rhode, i was only 8 years old at the time but i do remember it pretty good. Doug was the pilot at the time and it never had enough power to keep it in the air and on the maiden flight it nosed over coming down.......not real bad, but enough to say that engine wasnt going to work. I believe it ended up with a continental engine and traveled all around the country with a few different owners. The last i heard the plane is sitting in a storage shed 10 miles away from where it was built KMTW....i just happen to be finishing the sister plane that my dad was building for himself at the same time. I have a few newspaper clippings of the diesel powered piet, it was a big deal at the time. I remember my dad telling me they went to visit Bernard and discussed the engine installation/choice face to face.... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346036#346036


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    Time: 05:43:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Best way to cut metal fittings?
    From: "olflyr45" <wyliejohnson45@gmail.com>
    Ideally you would want to have 3 teeth of the saw blade in the metal during the cut. If you are cutting .060 sheet for instance the blade should have .020 between the teeth or 50 teeth per inch. This will prevent hanging and tearing the teeth off the blade. Of course with very thin stock you just can't get blades fine enough so get the finest pitch you can and feed the stock slowly. In doing the layout you need to make sure that the grain of the metal is in line with the stress that is going to be in the finished fitting to get maximum strength. If you look closely at the raw metal you can see a grain in it similar to what you see in a piece of wood. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346038#346038


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    Time: 05:44:44 AM PST US
    From: Lawrence Williams <lnawms@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Lucky Stiffs
    Kevin- Get a new airport and ditch the radio.........simple! Larry


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    Time: 05:48:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Progress!!
    From: "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@lakefield.net>
    Set the Mits engine in place for the first time.......i think it looks pretty cool! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346040#346040 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1718_665.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1717_678.jpg


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    Time: 05:55:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Head start on a project
    From: "olflyr45" <wyliejohnson45@gmail.com>
    I have a fuselage and tail group from a Pietenpol which has about 200 hrs on it. If you're going to build one this could get you in the air 6 months sooner. If interested Reply to wyliejohnson45@gmail.com and I'll send you pictures. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346041#346041


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    Time: 06:56:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Progress!!
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    Chris, Is there a thrust bearing in your Al shaft adapter housing ? A great installation. Looks like it will do the job. Is it direct connected. Do I see a blunter leading edge on the wing profile ?, Or is it all Pietenpol ? Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346051#346051


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    Time: 07:28:00 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Progress!!
    I think it looks WAY cool! That's pretty neat....it's gonna be fun seeing/hearing a prop spin in front of that engine! jm -----Original Message----- >From: Chris Rusch <rmdinfo@lakefield.net> >Sent: Jul 12, 2011 5:45 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress!! > > >Set the Mits engine in place for the first time.......i think it looks pretty cool! > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346040#346040 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1718_665.jpg >http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1717_678.jpg > >


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    Time: 07:31:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Progress!!
    From: "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@lakefield.net>
    Yes there are two timken bearings and a isolator ring seperating the crank from the prop spindle. The wing is riblet 612... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346055#346055


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    Time: 07:33:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Introductions
    From: "Three-Wire" <heap_r@hotmail.com>
    Ladies & Gentlemen, Ive been reading the posts of this group for a couple of years now and think its time to introduce myself. My wife and I have each wanted to build an airplane since before we met and settled on a Piet as hopefully our first of several. Last year we bought Ken Heides project to give ourselves a head-start on the Piet but life intervened and we havent been able to make any progress since bringing it home. Now my A&P schooling is done, work is stable for the time being, were perilously close to owning a house in an airpark outside of Wichita, and I think after Oshkosh we can start clearing out our small hangar and turn Kens project into our Piet. Weve been planning on tent camping at Brodhead Friday night through Sunday morning on our way to Oshkosh this year and Im looking forward to meeting some of the characters whose posts Ive read. Ive got a ton of questions about several aspects of the Piet and am excited to soak up some of the knowledge at Brodhead. So this is my Hello, thank you for sharing the wonderful wealth of information that is on these boards, and I hope to be able to contribute some of my own experiences over time. Thanks for listening, and I look forward to meeting you in less than two weeks. Rob Heap Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346058#346058


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    Time: 07:36:01 AM PST US
    From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
    Yea, that will work good till I cover the bottom of the fuse ;) Skip > [Original Message] > WoW!! Flip the flap up in flight and it looks like you've got quite a nice way to relieve yourself... :D > Lorin Miller


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    Time: 07:57:06 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Another question about the pilot's seat
    >Flip the flap up in flight and it looks like you've got >quite a nice way to relieve yourself... The relieving is not so bad; it's the cleanup afterwards that is no fun. Of course, I suppose you could put a disposable plastic liner in there prior to the flight. Yikes! Mr. Pietenpol would be shakin' his head at all this! Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 08:48:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Or....maybe he could superglue it to the inside of an adult diaper, then wear that. Nah, strike that....it's going to be fun watching Dan constantly shoving his hand down the back of his pants to search for his "mouse pad".... :) do not archive On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM < steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote: > <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> > > Perhaps one of the seats from Oregon Aero is your simple solution. they use > a memory foam that is super comfortable for long trips. Then you can still > be a purist. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: helspersew@aol.com > Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:34 > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > > > Listers, > > > > Being a purist, (almost a parody of myself at this point) I'll have > > to admit (albeit reluctantly) that the flat seat back gets to me > > after only a short time. You know those two bones that kind of > > stick out of your lower back? About 4-5 inches apart? At waist > > level. Those two bones rub into that seat back and it becomes very > > sore very fast. I am going to slide my rubber mouse pad down into > > my pants behind my belt. That should fix it! This is technically a > > part of my wardrobe, and not an alteration or addition to the BHP > > plans. No comments please. > > > > Dan Helsper > > Puryear, TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Church < > > To: pietenpol-list < > > Sent: Mon, Jul 11, 2011 12:22 pm > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat > > > > > > Robert, > > hanks for providing the photos. Looks good. You are doing some nice work > there. > > ope you didn't mind being "exposed". > > see you made your seat bottom with slats. My original idea was to do the > seat > > ottom and back using slats, just like the Adirondack chairs, but then > thought > > t might get too heavy, so decided that plywood would be a better choice. > Slats > > s definitely easier than curving plywood. > > 'll look for you at Brodhead. > > Bill C. > > > > > > ead this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345926#345926 > > > > > > > > -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - > > -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse > > -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, > > -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > > -= Photoshare, and much much more: > > - > > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > - > > -========================-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > > -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! > > - > > -= --> http://forums.matronics.com > > - > > -========================-= - List Contribution Web Site - > > -= Thank you for your generous support! > > -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > -======================= > > > >


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    Time: 09:24:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Introductions
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    Welcome Rob. I am one of those that is still walking but working on my Piet daily. It will fly. When.............? Just try to do SOMETHING each day however small it may be. That is my approach. I decided early on if it flies it depends on me entirely to finish it. I hope to fly this year. I have not started covering yet so I may be surprised and say I hope to fly it 2012. do not archive -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346081#346081


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    Time: 12:16:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Progress!!
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Looks like the island of "Mits-fits" toys...! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346103#346103


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    Time: 04:06:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Progress!!
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    Chris. Look me up at Brodhead, I will give you a Riblett ride. I also use a thrust bearing between the front main and the prop. With a prop extension a quick prop change is valuable to find the proper pitch and diameter. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346140#346140


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    Time: 05:05:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Progress!!
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    I'll bring the KY! please god do not archive On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>wrote: > Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> > > Chris. > Look me up at Brodhead, I will give you a Riblett ride. I also use a thrust > bearing between the front main and the prop. With a prop extension a quick > prop change is valuable to find the proper pitch and diameter. > Pieti Lowell > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346140#346140 > >


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    Time: 05:48:07 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Ride swapping at Brodhead
    Pieti Lowell, I might like to bum a ride in a Ford Piet myself.- I am 180 lbs, so if I am not to fat I would love to swap rides, that is if your not affraid of the corvair.- I am still not sure if we are heading up on wed , or thurs, if the weather is good and I can get a baby sitter for wed morn ing, I will try to blast off then.- I wouldn't mind catching a ride in a cont powered Pipet as well, just to compare it to our piet, it's the only o ne I have flown in. - Shad Bell NX92GB


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    Time: 05:52:27 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat
    Berrnie would agree that we DO reserve the right to get smarter!- OK now I will duck and avoid the cross fire - Shad --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote: From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat Or....maybe he could superglue it to the inside of an adult diaper, then we ar that. Nah, strike that....it's going to be fun watching Dan constantly s hoving his hand down the back of his pants to search for his "mouse pad"... . -:) do not archive On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM <steven .d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote: <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> Perhaps one of the seats from Oregon Aero is your simple solution. they use a memory foam that is super comfortable for long trips. Then you can still be a purist. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat > > Listers, > > Being a purist, (almost a parody of myself at this point) I'll have > to admit (albeit reluctantly) that the flat seat back gets to me > after only a short time. You know those two bones that kind of > stick out of your lower back? About 4-5 inches apart? At waist > level. Those two bones rub into that seat back and it becomes very > sore very fast. I am going to slide my rubber mouse pad down into > my pants behind my belt. That should fix it! This is technically a > part of my wardrobe, and not an alteration or addition to the BHP > plans. No comments please. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Church < > To: pietenpol-list < > Sent: Mon, Jul 11, 2011 12:22 pm > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another question about the pilot's seat > > > Robert, > hanks for providing the photos. Looks good. You are doing some nice work there. > ope you didn't mind being "exposed". > see you made your seat bottom with slats. My original idea was to do the seat > ottom and back using slats, just like the Adirondack chairs, but then tho ught > t might get too heavy, so decided that plywood would be a better choice. Slats > s definitely easier than curving plywood. > 'll look for you at Brodhead. > Bill C. > > > ead this topic online here: > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345926#345926 > > > -= - - - - -- The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - > -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse > -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, > -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > -= Photoshare, and much much more: > - > -= - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > - > -======================== -= - - - - - - - - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! > - > -= - --> http://forums.matronics.com > - > -======================== -= - - - - - - - List Contribution Web Site - > -= -Thank you for your generous support! > -= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Matt Dra lle, List Admin. > -= - --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -======================= > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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