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1. 03:09 AM - Its official! My Pietenpol virginity was taken today! (bubbleboy)
2. 03:17 AM - Re: Re: Introductions (Jack Phillips)
3. 04:15 AM - Re: Colorado Pietenpols (Dangerous Dave)
4. 06:56 AM - anybody near OK City? (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 07:37 AM - Engine Run (Gboothe5)
6. 08:06 AM - Fuse Ply (echobravo4)
7. 08:28 AM - Re: Engine Run (V Groah)
8. 08:42 AM - Re: anybody near OK City? (jim_markle@mindspring.com)
9. 08:44 AM - Re: Engine Run (jim_markle@mindspring.com)
10. 08:44 AM - Re: anybody near OK City? (Steve Ruse)
11. 08:57 AM - Re: anybody near OK City? (Jack Phillips)
12. 09:06 AM - Re: Engine Run (Bill Church)
13. 09:07 AM - Re: Engine Run (Jack Phillips)
14. 09:10 AM - Re: Engine Run (Gboothe5)
15. 09:22 AM - Re: Engine Run (Pieti Lowell)
16. 09:42 AM - Re: Engine Run (K5YAC)
17. 09:44 AM - Re: Engine Run (K5YAC)
18. 09:48 AM - Re: Engine Run (V Groah)
19. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: Engine Run (Gboothe5)
20. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: Engine Run (Gboothe5)
21. 11:19 AM - Re: Engine Run (Gboothe5)
22. 12:32 PM - Re: Fuse Ply (kevinpurtee)
23. 01:08 PM - Re: Engine Run (K5YAC)
24. 03:31 PM - Re: Introductions (Billy McCaskill)
25. 04:18 PM - Re: Re: Introductions (Jack Phillips)
26. 05:04 PM - Re: Introductions (Billy McCaskill)
27. 05:09 PM - Met one of your old Brodhead friends today (Ben Charvet)
28. 06:05 PM - Re: Re: Introductions (Jack Phillips)
29. 06:07 PM - Re: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today (Jack Phillips)
30. 06:13 PM - Brodhead (Dick Navratil)
31. 06:19 PM - Re: Brodhead (Jack Phillips)
32. 06:27 PM - Re: Introductions (Billy McCaskill)
33. 06:51 PM - Re: Re: Introductions (mark lee)
34. 07:34 PM - For Tim Willis - Apologies to the group and do not archive (kevinpurtee)
35. 08:04 PM - Re: Brodhead (Dick Navratil)
36. 08:28 PM - Re: anybody near OK City=?UTF-8?B?Pw==? (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
37. 08:35 PM - Re: anybody near OK City=?UTF-8?B?Pw==? (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
38. 08:41 PM - Re: anybody near OK City? (K5YAC)
39. 08:44 PM - Re: Re: Introductions (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
40. 08:47 PM - Re: anybody near OK City? (jim_markle@mindspring.com)
41. 08:51 PM - Aussie Piet for sale (bubbleboy)
42. 08:55 PM - Re: anybody near OK City=?UTF-8?B?Pw==? (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
43. 08:59 PM - Re: Re: Introductions (Gboothe5)
44. 09:16 PM - Re: anybody near OK City? (K5YAC)
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| Subject: | Its official! My Pietenpol virginity was taken today! |
Today I was lucky enough to have my first ride in a Pietenpol Air Camper. A fellow
Piet owner about 4 hours from me invited me down for a flight and to discuss
what things he would change if building one from scratch.
This Piet is powered with a Subaru EA81 with a belt driven reduction unit. The
controls were really quite sensitive but nice to fly. He has tape along the aileron
hinge line.
He is very happy with the landing gear which is apparently straight off a Piper
Colt. I eyeballed it and the axle line appears to be straight under the leading
edge of the wing. He stated the seat on this one was built straight up and
down and becomes very uncomfortable on a longer jaunt. He has entry doors to both
pilot and passenger sections and I admit it was reasonably easy to get in
and out and would have been a challenge with out them. Anyone have a sketch or
suggestions on how to add doors?
Something he mentioned was the engine had no offset which is why he thinks to fly
in balance, he needed to make a large deflection of the rudder trim tab. Its
very noticeable when standing behind it. What do folk do about building in some
side and down thrust? Mine being a Corvair swinging the prop in the other
direction, will I need left offset rather than the usual right?
We went for an hours flight and did the beaches at 500 feet and climbed higher
and did steep turns and he demonstrated the stall. It was very benign with a slight
shudder and the right wing drops. It doesnt drop abruptly but definitely
drops.
The experience was fantastic albiet a little cold on my face but what a thrill!
It gives me greater inspiration to get mine finished now. Overall for a home
built I was very impressed. It was great to be able to discuss what modifications
he thought would make a more user friendly plane...
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
I'll see what I can do, Ken. Or you can order it yourself from:
http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken_P
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 2:45 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
Hey Jack P - I've been wanting to get myself a CS(squared) t-shirt for a
while now. If you see any for sale at Brodhead, could you get me one
(large)? Of course, if you go through all that trouble, I'll be happy to buy
one for you, too... If you don't already have one, that is. I'll pick it
up at the August 1114 meeting.
Ken P
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
As previously stated by Ken,I have an O 235 putting out 125 @sea level.
At 78 F density altitude of 8000' I am off in 650-800' at 1175lbs.Can get up to
14,000' on a cool morning.I wouldn't have a smaller engine on a bet unless you
just want to fly in the winter and fly east to cranksnappin country.dave
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| Subject: | anybody near OK City? |
Hey all,
I'm leaving Sunday night for Oklahoma City (Norman actually, just south)
where I'll be working for about three weeks.
Wanted to see if anybody is building or flying around that area who is up
for a visit.
Douwe
805 573 3564
douweblumberg@earthlink.net
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All,
Last night's intended engine run never actually happened.but I wouldn't
describe it as a 'bust.' Several very good things happened, and, after all,
this has been a learning process all the way through.
I was very fortunate to have quality people at my side: Jim Markle, Mike
Weaver, Chris Tracy.just to name a few. As he says, Jim "grew up on a farm,"
and guys like that know stuff. Mike Weaver is an electronics guru, and Chris
Tracy.well he provided incentive. I think there is truth to the rumor that
Jack Phillips offered Chris $100 to throw a monkey wrench in the works,
'cause I am SURE I had everything wired up right.and I did see Chris' hands
in the compartment at one time.
Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried my
condensers, and we simply ran out of time. I'm disappointed for Markle to
have put so much effort into seeing the Beast come to life, and for Chris,
too, who really did want to hear a Corvair; but I came out on top! Not only
did I learn some stuff about electronics, how distributors work, etc., Mike
Weaver brought a friend, a workmate, a fellow pilot...who owns a large
hanger!!! Do you know how HUGE that is here in California!! We struck a good
relationship right off, and I am now assured a home for my Pietenpol! If
nothing else came out of the day than that.I am a Winner!
Well, I'll try to make some progress on the engine run, but Brodhead is just
around the corner and I am reminded that I have some other obligations.
See all y'all in Brodhead,
Gary
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OK, i know everybody is packing and dreaming of beets and fumunda around
a crackling fire, but, i'm stuck here in PA "having" to work on my Piet!
i was wondering if anybody had used the caulking tube T-88 with the
mixing tube? it seems like a good idea for mixing large quantities of
glue, like gluing on the ply sides and bottom to the fuse.
Thanks, and everybody have fun!
hopefully will get out there next year
Earl
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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good news=2C bad news=2C that is the way of it some times. I am happy that
you are so close to having a real airplane. It is a thrill to hear the en
gine come to life for the first time. It is like the machine is born. It
will happen soon. Hope we can have our Piets side by side somewhere next s
eason. It is so nice that you have a support group like that in your area.
We are envious of the hanger offer. We have been on the wait list for thre
e years and are up to eight down on the list for a T hanger and 16 for a re
al one. Like you said=2C hangers are a premium here in California. Keep
up the good work and keep us posted.
Vic 414MV being fabriced and painted.
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
All=2C
Last night=92s intended engine run never actually happened=85but I wouldn
=92t describe it as a =91bust.=92 Several very good things happened=2C and
=2C after all=2C this has been a learning process all the way through.
I was very fortunate to have quality people at my side: Jim Markle=2C Mike
Weaver=2C Chris Tracy=85just to name a few. As he says=2C Jim =93grew up on
a farm=2C=94 and guys like that know stuff. Mike Weaver is an electronics
guru=2C and Chris Tracy=85well he provided incentive. I think there is trut
h to the rumor that Jack Phillips offered Chris $100 to throw a monkey wren
ch in the works=2C =91cause I am SURE I had everything wired up right=85and
I did see Chris=92 hands in the compartment at one time.
Anyhow=2C we determined that I had made a basic error=2C that may have frie
d my condensers=2C and we simply ran out of time. I=92m disappointed for Ma
rkle to have put so much effort into seeing the Beast come to life=2C and f
or Chris=2C too=2C who really did want to hear a Corvair=3B but I came out
on top! Not only did I learn some stuff about electronics=2C how distributo
rs work=2C etc.=2C Mike Weaver brought a friend=2C a workmate=2C a fellow p
ilot=85..who owns a large hanger!!! Do you know how HUGE that is here in Ca
lifornia!! We struck a good relationship right off=2C and I am now assured
a home for my Pietenpol! If nothing else came out of the day than that=85I
am a Winner!
Well=2C I=92ll try to make some progress on the engine run=2C but Brodhead
is just around the corner and I am reminded that I have some other obligati
ons=85
See all y=92all in Brodhead=2C
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: anybody near OK City? |
I'm just an hour (well, maybe a bit more) NE of OKC so please stop by if you can
while in the area....plenty of room if you want to come up over the weekend
and hang out.
JM
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
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| Subject: | Re: anybody near OK City? |
Douwe,
I live in Norman and keep my GN-1 at a strip south of town. I'd be glad
to get together sometime. Bryce Reid lives on the west side of OK and
is just getting started with his Piet. Give me a call anytime...we do
have a 10 week old baby girl who keeps me fairly busy lately, but I'm
sure I can find some time to get together.
Steve Ruse
405-209-9010
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From: Douwe Blumberg
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
Hey all,
I'm leaving Sunday night for Oklahoma City (Norman actually, just south)
where I'll be working for about three weeks.
Wanted to see if anybody is building or flying around that area who is
up for a visit.
Douwe
805 573 3564
douweblumberg@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | anybody near OK City? |
Douwe,
Does this mean you won't be at Brodhead?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
Hey all,
I'm leaving Sunday night for Oklahoma City (Norman actually, just south)
where I'll be working for about three weeks.
Wanted to see if anybody is building or flying around that area who is up
for a visit.
Douwe
805 573 3564
douweblumberg@earthlink.net
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Well, that's too bad that you weren't able to get the beast to come to life on
schedule, but overall, it sounds like you really came out on top.
And in the whole story, there wasn't even one reference to "things" going missing,
following a visit. Remarkable restraint on your part, Gary (and relief on
the part of JM, I'm sure).
Bill C.
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I didn't pay Chris $100. He did it for $20
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
All,
Last night's intended engine run never actually happened.but I wouldn't
describe it as a 'bust.' Several very good things happened, and, after all,
this has been a learning process all the way through.
I was very fortunate to have quality people at my side: Jim Markle, Mike
Weaver, Chris Tracy.just to name a few. As he says, Jim "grew up on a farm,"
and guys like that know stuff. Mike Weaver is an electronics guru, and Chris
Tracy.well he provided incentive. I think there is truth to the rumor that
Jack Phillips offered Chris $100 to throw a monkey wrench in the works,
'cause I am SURE I had everything wired up right.and I did see Chris' hands
in the compartment at one time.
Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried my
condensers, and we simply ran out of time. I'm disappointed for Markle to
have put so much effort into seeing the Beast come to life, and for Chris,
too, who really did want to hear a Corvair; but I came out on top! Not only
did I learn some stuff about electronics, how distributors work, etc., Mike
Weaver brought a friend, a workmate, a fellow pilot...who owns a large
hanger!!! Do you know how HUGE that is here in California!! We struck a good
relationship right off, and I am now assured a home for my Pietenpol! If
nothing else came out of the day than that.I am a Winner!
Well, I'll try to make some progress on the engine run, but Brodhead is just
around the corner and I am reminded that I have some other obligations.
See all y'all in Brodhead,
Gary
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Vic,
I am anxiously awaiting pics of your cover process..!
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
good news, bad news, that is the way of it some times. I am happy that you
are so close to having a real airplane. It is a thrill to hear the engine
come to life for the first time. It is like the machine is born. It will
happen soon. Hope we can have our Piets side by side somewhere next season.
It is so nice that you have a support group like that in your area.
We are envious of the hanger offer. We have been on the wait list for three
years and are up to eight down on the list for a T hanger and 16 for a real
one. Like you said, hangers are a premium here in California. Keep up the
good work and keep us posted.
Vic 414MV being fabriced and painted.
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
All,
Last night's intended engine run never actually happened.but I wouldn't
describe it as a 'bust.' Several very good things happened, and, after all,
this has been a learning process all the way through.
I was very fortunate to have quality people at my side: Jim Markle, Mike
Weaver, Chris Tracy.just to name a few. As he says, Jim "grew up on a farm,"
and guys like that know stuff. Mike Weaver is an electronics guru, and Chris
Tracy.well he provided incentive. I think there is truth to the rumor that
Jack Phillips offered Chris $100 to throw a monkey wrench in the works,
'cause I am SURE I had everything wired up right.and I did see Chris' hands
in the compartment at one time.
Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried my
condensers, and we simply ran out of time. I'm disappointed for Markle to
have put so much effort into seeing the Beast come to life, and for Chris,
too, who really did want to hear a Corvair; but I came out on top! Not only
did I learn some stuff about electronics, how distributors work, etc., Mike
Weaver brought a friend, a workmate, a fellow pilot...who owns a large
hanger!!! Do you know how HUGE that is here in California!! We struck a good
relationship right off, and I am now assured a home for my Pietenpol! If
nothing else came out of the day than that.I am a Winner!
Well, I'll try to make some progress on the engine run, but Brodhead is just
around the corner and I am reminded that I have some other obligations.
See all y'all in Brodhead,
Gary
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Did you check Jim's big pockets ? for cookies etc.
Pieti Lowell
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If it isn't too embarrassing, could you elaborate on this comment when you get
time?
> Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried my condensers,
and we simply ran out of time.
What mistake? How is it to be corrected?
Perhaps you could just describe it over a cold one at Brodhead? I am an electronics
guy, but I didn't grow up on a farm OR sleep at a Holiday Inn Express, so
I would just like to learn more about what NOT to do.
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I have no idea why my text is in BOLD after the quote... didn't mean for it to
be that way, that's just the way it appears every time I post a quote.
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We have the tail covered=2C the fuselage covered and painted but no graphic
s installed yet. The graphics are made but not installed. The paint must
dry first. The gear is painted and ready to install. We will start reins
talling the gear this week. We hope to have the tail painted by the end of
next week. We are going to put the main part of the plane together and wr
ap it up then do the wings. The shop=2Cas you know=2C is not large and we
must shuffle things around to make room to do the wings. We should have an
airplane by spring. We will send you photos soon.
Vic 414MV
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
Vic=2C
I am anxiously awaiting pics of your cover process=85.!
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
Sent: Saturday=2C July 16=2C 2011 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
good news=2C bad news=2C that is the way of it some times. I am happy that
you are so close to having a real airplane. It is a thrill to hear the en
gine come to life for the first time. It is like the machine is born. It
will happen soon. Hope we can have our Piets side by side somewhere next s
eason. It is so nice that you have a support group like that in your area.
We are envious of the hanger offer. We have been on the wait list for thre
e years and are up to eight down on the list for a T hanger and 16 for a re
al one. Like you said=2C hangers are a premium here in California. Keep
up the good work and keep us posted.
Vic 414MV being fabriced and painted.
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
All=2C
Last night=92s intended engine run never actually happened=85but I wouldn
=92t describe it as a =91bust.=92 Several very good things happened=2C and
=2C after all=2C this has been a learning process all the way through.
I was very fortunate to have quality people at my side: Jim Markle=2C Mike
Weaver=2C Chris Tracy=85just to name a few. As he says=2C Jim =93grew up on
a farm=2C=94 and guys like that know stuff. Mike Weaver is an electronics
guru=2C and Chris Tracy=85well he provided incentive. I think there is trut
h to the rumor that Jack Phillips offered Chris $100 to throw a monkey wren
ch in the works=2C =91cause I am SURE I had everything wired up right=85and
I did see Chris=92 hands in the compartment at one time.
Anyhow=2C we determined that I had made a basic error=2C that may have frie
d my condensers=2C and we simply ran out of time. I=92m disappointed for Ma
rkle to have put so much effort into seeing the Beast come to life=2C and f
or Chris=2C too=2C who really did want to hear a Corvair=3B but I came out
on top! Not only did I learn some stuff about electronics=2C how distributo
rs work=2C etc.=2C Mike Weaver brought a friend=2C a workmate=2C a fellow p
ilot=85..who owns a large hanger!!! Do you know how HUGE that is here in Ca
lifornia!! We struck a good relationship right off=2C and I am now assured
a home for my Pietenpol! If nothing else came out of the day than that=85I
am a Winner!
Well=2C I=92ll try to make some progress on the engine run=2C but Brodhead
is just around the corner and I am reminded that I have some other obligati
ons=85
See all y=92all in Brodhead=2C
Gary
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Mark,
For the price of a beet, I will gladly spill the beans...
But, for now, suffice it to say that the condensers connect to the NEG side
of the coils, NOT the POS side! :-O What's the fix? New condensers and move
the wires to the right side...
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:40 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Run
If it isn't too embarrassing, could you elaborate on this comment when you
get time?
> Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried
my condensers, and we simply ran out of time.
What mistake? How is it to be corrected?
Perhaps you could just describe it over a cold one at Brodhead? I am an
electronics guy, but I didn't grow up on a farm OR sleep at a Holiday Inn
Express, so I would just like to learn more about what NOT to do.
--------
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Having had the opportunity to enjoy Jim's company several times, I have
devised a system to preserve the sanctity of my tools...I'm sure JM's
working on counter-measures...
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Run
Well, that's too bad that you weren't able to get the beast to come to life
on schedule, but overall, it sounds like you really came out on top.
And in the whole story, there wasn't even one reference to "things" going
missing, following a visit. Remarkable restraint on your part, Gary (and
relief on the part of JM, I'm sure).
Bill C.
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.and took every opportunity to say, "I knew it wouldn't start!"
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
I didn't pay Chris $100. He did it for $20
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
All,
Last night's intended engine run never actually happened.but I wouldn't
describe it as a 'bust.' Several very good things happened, and, after all,
this has been a learning process all the way through.
I was very fortunate to have quality people at my side: Jim Markle, Mike
Weaver, Chris Tracy.just to name a few. As he says, Jim "grew up on a farm,"
and guys like that know stuff. Mike Weaver is an electronics guru, and Chris
Tracy.well he provided incentive. I think there is truth to the rumor that
Jack Phillips offered Chris $100 to throw a monkey wrench in the works,
'cause I am SURE I had everything wired up right.and I did see Chris' hands
in the compartment at one time.
Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried my
condensers, and we simply ran out of time. I'm disappointed for Markle to
have put so much effort into seeing the Beast come to life, and for Chris,
too, who really did want to hear a Corvair; but I came out on top! Not only
did I learn some stuff about electronics, how distributors work, etc., Mike
Weaver brought a friend, a workmate, a fellow pilot...who owns a large
hanger!!! Do you know how HUGE that is here in California!! We struck a good
relationship right off, and I am now assured a home for my Pietenpol! If
nothing else came out of the day than that.I am a Winner!
Well, I'll try to make some progress on the engine run, but Brodhead is just
around the corner and I am reminded that I have some other obligations.
See all y'all in Brodhead,
Gary
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Hi Earl - I started off with the caulking gun style and very quickly went to the
small plastic graduated mixing cups. I personally would not bother with the
caulking gun. When you have a big job you just mix a couple of cups. The stuff
takes forever to set up so there's no rush.
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NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:
> and took every opportunity to say, I knew it wouldnt start!
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
Since the topic has drifted from introductions to engine choices, for whatever
it might be worth, I witnessed a homebuilt aircraft crash just after takeoff this
afternoon, and it was powered by--- wait for it--- a Continental C-65. So
the idea that "real" aircraft engines are somehow better/safer/more reliable
than converted auto engines doesn't hold a lot of water with me right now. "Real"
airplane can engines fail too....
The plane was a Zenith CH-601 (or 701, not sure), was losing power and didn't sound
right. It was mushing along about 30 to 40 degrees nose-high, and steadily
losing altitude. When the pilot realized he wasn't going to clear the house
and trees across the street from the end of the runway, he switched off the
mags and intentionally pancaked it, nose first, into the grass at the end of the
end of the runway from about 40-50' AGL. He was less than 100 feet from crossing
the fence at the north end of the field. The pilot and passenger were
able to walk away, but taken by ambulance to the local hospital to be checked
out. It will be a LONG time before that plane flies again, if ever.
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Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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Well, which was it? The 601 is designed for 65 - 115 hp and is a nice
looking airplane. The 701 is designed for 80 - 120 hp and looks like the
box a Sonex came in. If it was a 701 it would be pretty underpowered with
an A65 in it.
Sounds like the engine was making power, just not enough of it. A lot of
questions need to be answered before you go and blame the engine.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Very Defensive of his Continentals
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
McCaskill
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 6:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
Since the topic has drifted from introductions to engine choices, for
whatever it might be worth, I witnessed a homebuilt aircraft crash just
after takeoff this afternoon, and it was powered by--- wait for it--- a
Continental C-65. So the idea that "real" aircraft engines are somehow
better/safer/more reliable than converted auto engines doesn't hold a lot of
water with me right now. "Real" airplane can engines fail too....
The plane was a Zenith CH-601 (or 701, not sure), was losing power and
didn't sound right. It was mushing along about 30 to 40 degrees nose-high,
and steadily losing altitude. When the pilot realized he wasn't going to
clear the house and trees across the street from the end of the runway, he
switched off the mags and intentionally pancaked it, nose first, into the
grass at the end of the end of the runway from about 40-50' AGL. He was
less than 100 feet from crossing the fence at the north end of the field.
The pilot and passenger were able to walk away, but taken by ambulance to
the local hospital to be checked out. It will be a LONG time before that
plane flies again, if ever.
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Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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Well, it wasn't the prettiest design I've ever seen, it was a side by side 2 place
high wing STOL design, and definitely C-65 powered. The pilot didn't seem
to be in the mood to answer a bunch of questions about which model of Zenith
it was when I and a bunch of other witnesses went to check on him and his passenger.
This plane had no problems climbing out on previous flights earlier in
the day while I was there, so I don't think it was underpowered with the C-65.
The engine definitely sounded not up to snuff, and was not running as it should
have been on that takeoff attempt. The runway there is paved, 3050 ft long,
and he taxied all the way to the south end of runway 36 to begin his takeoff
run, and never got over about 80 feet high. By the time he passed the hanger
I was standing in directly adjacent to the north end of the paved part of runway
36 he was at about 60 feet AGL, losing altitude and on the verge of stalling.
We all thought at first he was demonstrating the slow-flight characteristics
of the plane when we all realized the engine sounded sick and he was losing
altitude. Engine failed, plain and simple. End result- gravity 1, "real"
airplane engine 0.
In my opinion, the pilot probably should have aborted the takeoff a lot earlier
than he did, regardless of engine type, and try to figure out the problem on
the ground instead of substantially bending up his airplane. With over 3000'
of runway available, he had time to land a lot earlier than he did.
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| Subject: | Met one of your old Brodhead friends today |
I ran into Alan Wise at a fly-in breakfast this morning. I hadn't seen
him in a few years but he looks good. He told me he made 3 trips from
Florida to Brodhead when he had his Pietenpol. I guess if he can do it,
I should try for next year. The wife has offered to drive a chase
vehicle. You guys think of me while consuming brats and beets.
Ben Charvet
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
Definitely sounds like a 701 (the 601 is low wing), and the 701 is designed
to have a Rotax 912 engine of 80 hp so it would be considerably underpowered
with an A65 (there is no C-65). If the builder put the wrong engine in it,
who's to say how well he prepared that engine. Continentals are reliable,
but they can be screwed up just as well as any other engine by poor
maintenance or a plugged vent in a fuel system or anything else. I wouldn't
jump to conclusions yet until the NTSB figures out the cause of the
accident.
A true engine failure (such as a broken crankshaft) would typically cause
the engine to quit completely. Of course it could be a stuck valve, which
would cause a loss of power, but with that much runway he should have
realized the loss of power and aborted the takeoff.
Continentals can and will fail for various reasons, but overall they are
very reliable engines.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
McCaskill
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
Well, it wasn't the prettiest design I've ever seen, it was a side by side 2
place high wing STOL design, and definitely C-65 powered. The pilot didn't
seem to be in the mood to answer a bunch of questions about which model of
Zenith it was when I and a bunch of other witnesses went to check on him and
his passenger. This plane had no problems climbing out on previous flights
earlier in the day while I was there, so I don't think it was underpowered
with the C-65. The engine definitely sounded not up to snuff, and was not
running as it should have been on that takeoff attempt. The runway there is
paved, 3050 ft long, and he taxied all the way to the south end of runway 36
to begin his takeoff run, and never got over about 80 feet high. By the
time he passed the hanger I was standing in directly adjacent to the north
end of the paved part of runway 36 he was at about 60 feet AGL, losing
altitude and on the verge of stalling. We all thought at first he was
demonstrating !
the slow-flight characteristics of the plane when we all realized the
engine sounded sick and he was losing altitude. Engine failed, plain and
simple. End result- gravity 1, "real" airplane engine 0.
In my opinion, the pilot probably should have aborted the takeoff a lot
earlier than he did, regardless of engine type, and try to figure out the
problem on the ground instead of substantially bending up his airplane.
With over 3000' of runway available, he had time to land a lot earlier than
he did.
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Met one of your old Brodhead friends today |
Still time to do it this year, Ben. Come on up to Virginia and fly with
Matt Paxton and me. We're planning to leave Tuesday morning and arrive by
early afternoon Wednesday in Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:06 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
I ran into Alan Wise at a fly-in breakfast this morning. I hadn't seen
him in a few years but he looks good. He told me he made 3 trips from
Florida to Brodhead when he had his Pietenpol. I guess if he can do it,
I should try for next year. The wife has offered to drive a chase
vehicle. You guys think of me while consuming brats and beets.
Ben Charvet
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Hey all
I just got home frme OSH and Brodhead. Anybody know who dropped off 2
sets of wing ribs and tail section at the hangar? They all look real
nice. Also there were a lot of guys working at Brodhead today, Mowing
washing and doing lots of cleaning. It was very impressive. Oh, I
delivered the fuselage there today also.
Dick N.
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Which Pietenpol are your bringing this year, Dick?
Jack Phillips
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick
Navratil
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Hey all
I just got home frme OSH and Brodhead. Anybody know who dropped off 2 sets
of wing ribs and tail section at the hangar? They all look real nice. Also
there were a lot of guys working at Brodhead today, Mowing washing and doing
lots of cleaning. It was very impressive. Oh, I delivered the fuselage
there today also.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
You are correct, it was an A-65 and not a C-65, that was a typo on my part. But
whatever the case, this pilot's day didn't end well when he made the decision
to try to continue the flight with a faltering engine. You pay your money and
take your chances, whatever engine you choose. I only make the point that
Continental engines can fail just like any other engine, or mechanical device
in general, no matter how staunchly defended they might be. But hey, at least
his crank didn't snap before the ground rose up rapidly to meet him...
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
This sort of thing happens.I've been there when no one walked away.It takes
awhile for your nerves to settle after you have witnessed something like
that.I hope that hang gliding etc helps me not to depend to much on any
engine.Who knows why he didn't put it down if he had the room.I'd bet that
the cause of the problem could happen to any engine.Pilots teasing each
other probably started with the Wright bothers giving each other a hard
time.If someone wires a Yugo on a plane then we really will have reason to
object.Now it will be just my luck to have a Yugo engine turn out to be
wonderful.
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> Definitely sounds like a 701 (the 601 is low wing), and the 701 is designed
> to have a Rotax 912 engine of 80 hp so it would be considerably
> underpowered
> with an A65 (there is no C-65). If the builder put the wrong engine in it,
> who's to say how well he prepared that engine. Continentals are reliable,
> but they can be screwed up just as well as any other engine by poor
> maintenance or a plugged vent in a fuel system or anything else. I
> wouldn't
> jump to conclusions yet until the NTSB figures out the cause of the
> accident.
>
> A true engine failure (such as a broken crankshaft) would typically cause
> the engine to quit completely. Of course it could be a stuck valve, which
> would cause a loss of power, but with that much runway he should have
> realized the loss of power and aborted the takeoff.
>
> Continentals can and will fail for various reasons, but overall they are
> very reliable engines.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
> McCaskill
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:02 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
>
>
> Well, it wasn't the prettiest design I've ever seen, it was a side by side
> 2
> place high wing STOL design, and definitely C-65 powered. The pilot didn't
> seem to be in the mood to answer a bunch of questions about which model of
> Zenith it was when I and a bunch of other witnesses went to check on him
> and
> his passenger. This plane had no problems climbing out on previous flights
> earlier in the day while I was there, so I don't think it was underpowered
> with the C-65. The engine definitely sounded not up to snuff, and was not
> running as it should have been on that takeoff attempt. The runway there
> is
> paved, 3050 ft long, and he taxied all the way to the south end of runway
> 36
> to begin his takeoff run, and never got over about 80 feet high. By the
> time he passed the hanger I was standing in directly adjacent to the north
> end of the paved part of runway 36 he was at about 60 feet AGL, losing
> altitude and on the verge of stalling. We all thought at first he was
> demonstrating !
> the slow-flight characteristics of the plane when we all realized the
> engine sounded sick and he was losing altitude. Engine failed, plain and
> simple. End result- gravity 1, "real" airplane engine 0.
>
> In my opinion, the pilot probably should have aborted the takeoff a lot
> earlier than he did, regardless of engine type, and try to figure out the
> problem on the ground instead of substantially bending up his airplane.
> With over 3000' of runway available, he had time to land a lot earlier than
> he did.
>
> --------
> Billy McCaskill
> Urbana, IL
> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346698#346698
>
>
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| Subject: | For Tim Willis - Apologies to the group and do not archive |
Tim - Forgot your e-mail at the hangar. Here's the link we discussed:
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0BOIXHH5JnvmaTPQUAZ9I4vGTcAzU4uDP
Do not archive and for goodness sake ignore this if you're not Tim.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Hey Jack, hopefully both of them. I have a friend flying the A-65 down,
which is for sale at this point, and I am going up to OSH and will be in
the Rotec booth all week.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:16 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Which Pietenpol are your bringing this year, Dick?
Jack Phillips
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick
Navratil
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:11 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Hey all
I just got home frme OSH and Brodhead. Anybody know who dropped off 2
sets of wing ribs and tail section at the hangar? They all look real
nice. Also there were a lot of guys working at Brodhead today, Mowing
washing and doing lots of cleaning. It was very impressive. Oh, I
delivered the fuselage there today also.
Dick N.
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comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: anybody near OK City=?UTF-8?B?Pw==? |
No trip to Oklahoma is ever complete without an attempted Markle visit. The
good news is Mark is close and more than willing to share half a beet with
ya. Now that the kegrrator is gone no more frosty mugs of Shiner just a
couple of cans of who knows what.
A real Eddie at heart just no white shoes.
Truth is its certainly worth the drive to visit and hang with Markle and
Mark good folks good friends.
John
Do not archive
Safe in the morning and dangerous all the rest of the day
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From: jim_markle@mindspring.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2011 15:43:48 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
I'm just an hour (well, maybe a bit more) NE of OKC so please stop by if you
can while in the area....plenty of room if you want to come up over the
weekend and hang out.
JM
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| Subject: | Re: anybody near OK City=?UTF-8?B?Pw==? |
Markle
Are you planning on returning Gary s rotors or you planning on just laughing
about it?
Do not archive
Les Yawanna
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From: jim_markle@mindspring.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2011 15:43:48 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
I'm just an hour (well, maybe a bit more) NE of OKC so please stop by if you
can while in the area....plenty of room if you want to come up over the
weekend and hang out.
JM
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| Subject: | Re: anybody near OK City? |
Half a beer... ha! Yep, that's true. We'll make due with whatever we've got.
Thanks for reminding me that I need to get some beer for the hangar fridge.
:D
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
Truth is engines are mechanical machines and all mechanical things fail.
Some more frequently than others and yes fuel starvation is the highest
cause of engine failure followed by crank snapping.
No need to
Do not archive we already know these facts to be self evidennt that all
engines are not created equal.
" Use the right tool for the right job"
John payne NSC 16mm B&W
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-----Original message-----
From: Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net>
Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2011 22:32:41 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
Since the topic has drifted from introductions to engine choices, for
whatever it might be worth, I witnessed a homebuilt aircraft crash just
after takeoff this afternoon, and it was powered by--- wait for it--- a
Continental C-65. So the idea that "real" aircraft engines are somehow
better/safer/more reliable than converted auto engines doesn't hold a lot of
water with me right now. "Real" airplane can engines fail too....
The plane was a Zenith CH-601 (or 701, not sure), was losing power and
didn't sound right. It was mushing along about 30 to 40 degrees nose-high,
and steadily losing altitude. When the pilot realized he wasn't going to
clear the house and trees across the street from the end of the runway, he
switched off the mags and intentionally pancaked it, nose first, into the
grass at the end of the end of the runway from about 40-50' AGL. He was
less than 100 feet from crossing the fence at the north end of the field.
The pilot and passenger were able to walk away, but taken by ambulance to
the local hospital to be checked out. It will be a LONG time before that
plane flies again, if ever.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Aussie Piet for sale |
Hi all.....just letting the group know and more particularly, any Aussie who may
be after a Pietenpol Air Camper. Andrew Carter has advertised his here.
www.pietenpol.com.au
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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| Subject: | Re: anybody near OK City=?UTF-8?B?Pw==? |
You'll have to show it to me next time I am in for a visit
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-----Original message-----
From: jim_markle@mindspring.com
Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 03:50:17 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
I'm using a "real" Pietenpol engine....don't need no stinkin' condensers!!
However, Gary had (I mean "has") one of the neatest wire crimping tools I've
ever seen!
I was able to once again admire his workmanship. It's gonna be a beauty!
JM
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From: "Amsafetyc@gmail.com" <amsafetyc@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
Markle
Are you planning on returning Gary s rotors or you planning on just laughing
about it?
Do not archive
Les Yawanna
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-----Original message-----
From: jim_markle@mindspring.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2011 15:43:48 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
I'm just an hour (well, maybe a bit more) NE of OKC so please stop by if you
can while in the area....plenty of room if you want to come u
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
I know Jim by now=85I had a third rotor in my pocket=85
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Amsafetyc@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
Truth is engines are mechanical machines and all mechanical things fail.
Some more frequently than others and yes fuel starvation is the highest
cause of engine failure followed by crank snapping.
No need to
Do not archive we already know these facts to be self evidennt that all
engines are not created equal.
" Use the right tool for the right job"
John payne NSC 16mm B&W
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net>
Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2011 22:32:41 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
Since the topic has drifted from introductions to engine choices, for
whatever it might be worth, I witnessed a homebuilt aircraft crash just
after takeoff this afternoon, and it was powered by--- wait for it--- a
Continental C-65. So the idea that "real" aircraft engines are somehow
better/safer/more reliable than converted auto engines doesn't hold a
lot of
water with me right now. "Real" airplane can engines fail too....
The plane was a Zenith CH-601 (or 701, not sure), was losing power and
didn't sound right. It was mushing along about 30 to 40 degrees
nose-high,
and steadily losing altitude. When the pilot realized he wasn't going to
clear the house and trees across the street from the end of the runway,
he
switched off the mags and intentionally pancaked it, nose first, into
the
grass at the end of the end of the runway from about 40-50' AGL. He was
less
than 100 feet from crossing the fence at the north end of the field. The
pilot and passenger were able to walk away, but taken by ambulance to
the
local hospital to be checked out. It will be a LONG time before that
plane
flies again, if ever.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: anybody near OK City? |
He may not have it for long... Kevin and I will be out there tomorrow... might
be something WE need more than Jim. You've seen his place John... he'd never
miss it. I know this... If he asks me to sand those ribs again with that piece
of wax paper that he calls sand paper, I'm definitely going to have to lift
something for my effort. Ha!
Just kidding Jim... can't wait to see you guys. Give me a shout if you need help
with anything.
amsafetyc(at)gmail.com wrote:
> You'll have to show it to me next time I am in for a visit
>
> Do not archive
>
> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
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> -----Original message-----
> From: jim_markle@mindspring.com
> To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com"
> Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 03:50:17 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: anybody near OK City?
>
> I'm using a "real" Pietenpol engine....don't need no stinkin' condensers!!
>
> However, Gary had (I mean "has") one of the neatest wire crimping tools I've
> ever seen!
>
> I was able to once again admire his workmanship. It's gonna be a beauty!
>
> JM
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> --
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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