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1. 03:28 AM - Re: Engine Run Video (Boothe, Gary)
2. 05:31 AM - Dining with Axel & Shelly (gboothe5@comcast.net)
3. 05:51 AM - Piets to Brodhead (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 06:06 AM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (gboothe5@comcast.net)
5. 06:56 AM - Continental Engine Questions (jeff wilson)
6. 08:00 AM - Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (xTrainwrecKx)
7. 08:02 AM - Re: secret wepon tape (womenfly2)
8. 08:28 AM - Re: Piets to Brodhead (indyaquanaut)
9. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (Dick Navratil)
10. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (Dan Yocum)
11. 12:00 PM - Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (kevinpurtee)
12. 12:08 PM - Dan Helsper's in the pattern (kevinpurtee)
13. 12:11 PM - Re: Engine Run Video (caldwrl)
14. 01:39 PM - Re: Re: Engine Run Video (gboothe5@comcast.net)
15. 02:01 PM - Small Update (John Hofmann)
16. 03:04 PM - Re: Continental Engine Questions (Ryan Mueller)
17. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: Piets to Brodhead (Ryan Mueller)
18. 03:20 PM - Re: Small Update (Ryan Mueller)
19. 03:28 PM - Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. (bubbleboy)
20. 04:16 PM - Made in time for dinner! (gboothe5@comcast.net)
21. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (Jack Phillips)
22. 06:17 PM - Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. (dgaldrich)
23. 06:32 PM - Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (TriScout)
24. 07:18 PM - Re: Re: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (Jack)
25. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (Dan Yocum)
26. 07:25 PM - Re: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (Dan Yocum)
27. 07:35 PM - Re: Engine Run Video (Jim Boyer)
28. 11:10 PM - Re: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Video |
Thanks! See you there!
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>
Sent: Tue Jul 19 22:14:54 2011
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run Video
Hi Gary,
Your Corvair sounds good. It must be really neat to be able to sit in
it and start the engine now.
Congratulations; Arlene and I will see you in Brodhead.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Dining with Axel & Shelly |
Departing - Sacramento...Destination - Brodhead.
Gary
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| Subject: | Piets to Brodhead |
Drove up here to PG yesterday and over nighted. Getting all my last minute
business stuff done this a.m. Sometime later this morning I'll pack up the
Aeronca and fly my camping stuff (including the super-sized fish scale for
Gary) over to C-37 and dump off. Then back to PG to get NX929DH ready. Not
sure when that will be. Hopefully these winds will not be as bad as everyb
ody is saying. Right now they are light. So as of right now the plan is to
arrive at Brodhead today sometime.
This is the last time I will get a chance to check this list today, so if a
ny of you boys are getting close to C-77 give me a call (815) 298-5680. May
be we can hook-up.
Everybody fly safe, ya hear?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
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| Subject: | Continental Engine Questions |
Hey Guys and Gals,
-
Here's a couple technical questions for those of you not pre-occupied with
the Brodhead reunion this year.
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Question #1- We have mounted a 0-200 on our chapter Piet and removed the
----------------- -alternator-and sta
rter.- We have covered the the alternator mount with
-------------------aluminum plate and
plan to do the same over the starter cavity. But
------------------ here is the question
, there is oil pumped to the starter gears, if we remove
------------------ the gears and cover
the hole, will that cause an oil pressure drop
------------------ because that oil cha
nnel isn't hitting any resistance?
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Question #2- Where can we find a DIY guide for running this engine on Auto
gas. Around
------------------- here the only aut
o gas we can get includes 10% Ethanol. We're good with
------------------- the fuel tank and
line. Its all aluminum-with brass fittings.
-
Jeff Wilson
Chapter 64
KCPS
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
Sorry about the misfortune... glad you guys are okay.
Enjoy your time at Brodhead and I will hold things steady here in Afghanistan.
Just please... pleeeeeeease post some pics for me and the rest of the fellas that
could not make it out this year. :D
Very respectfully,
Derek
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| Subject: | Re: secret wepon tape |
>From a post I did on the J3 forum as a curiosity question to the members on this
topic.
> Well, when Charlie Horton tried it on the prop of his Comanche 400, his rate
of climb went from 1800 fpm to 500 fpm. That's a performance improvement I can
do without.
>
> More telling, Greg Deetman did extensive and rigourous flight testing on it for
his 136 page Master's Degree thesis at the University of Tennessee. Page 71
of 136 sums it up. When optimally placed, there was no discernible performance
increase. When non-optimally placed, the performance degradation ranged from
about 4% to 11%.
>
> Performance of dimples is very Reynolds number specific, and our aircraft only
transiently pass through that small range of Reynolds numbers. This is a performance
"enhancement" I don't need.
>
> P.S. Vortilator tape works better, and it doesn't always work.
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| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
Dale McCleskey wrote:
> I'm planning to leave Lebanon TN sometime Thursday, fly part way and find a nice,
soft hotel bed Thursday night. So plan to be in by noon on Friday, provided
I don't turn my sectional upside down and wind up in L.A. (that's lower Alabama
btw).
Dale, I'm just on the north side of Indianapolis (KTYQ) - Indianapolis Executive
Airport. If you make it this far Thursday and have an interest, I can probably
find you a hanger to put your bird in Thurs. night. I also have a spare bedroom
you can use. I plan on going to Broadhead Saturday in my Cessna 170. Don't
have my Piet done yet. If interested let me know.
Dave Esslinger
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
Luckily, I know you are kidding. If not I would have flown down there
today but I already decided not to go 40 kt cross wind at 3000 ft.
Gusting to 30 kts at Brodhead. Not for me in a Piet, I've done it
before never again. There is always tomorrow. For now I'll sleep in
the airconditioning tonight.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Rambo
To: pietenpol-list
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at
Brodhead!!!
J.C., I've never heard such whining! "it was IFRRRRR" "we had to
drive an HOOOOUR AND A HALFFFF, EACH WAYYYYYY" "it was 6 PMMMMMM"
(gets dark at 9) "we were TOO TIIIIIIRED to THIIIIINK about flying"
"my P hurts" oh, wait, did I think that out loud?
boy, in my day, we'd get up at 3 in the morning, an hour and a half
before we went to bed, walk an hour and a half, every hour, in the snow,
barefoot, uphill, both ways, over broken glass, with spikes, to change a
propeller with our bare hands, being beaten to death by our Dad the
whole time with a board full of rusty nails, to get the PRIVILEGE of
flying a Pietenpol a couple of hours before dark, and be damned glad to
get it!
you know, you tell the kids today about this and they just don't
believe it!
Pussies!!
do not archive, what's the point?
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From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at
Brodhead!!!
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:32:11 -0400
We didn=92t make it out today. Weather was IFR until about 2:30 or
3:00, and we had to drive an hour and a half each way back to my hangar
at Smith Mountin Lake to get my spare prop for Matt=92s plane. By the
time we got the new prop installed and the bungees fixed, it was 6:00 PM
and we were too tired to think about flying. We=92ll launch as early as
we can in the morning and see how far we can get. Forecast looks pretty
good. With luck, we might make it all the way, landing Brodhead by
about 7:00 PM
Jack Phillips & Matt Paxton
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Hofmann
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:36 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at
Brodhead!!!
I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No
issues at all on the trip up.
Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give
out on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight
turn. No damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may
have been loose and went a bit over center, then were unable to come
back. They are replacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his
hangar and tightening the bungees. With any luck may get across the
mountains of WV today.
-john-
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ttp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
I'm not sure what forecast you're tuned into, but at Madison the winds
are currently 220 at 04kts.
Winds aloft for Rockford are here:
http://www-frd.fsl.noaa.gov/mab/soundings/reply-skewt.cgi?data_source=MAPS&lon=-104.67&lat=39.87&airport=RFD
This afternoon the TAF says winds will be 230 at 13mph, gusting to
20mph. The trees on the SW side of the field will do a lot blocking the
crosswind component.
Fly safe, everyone. See you tomorrow.
Dan
On 07/20/2011 10:46 AM, Dick Navratil wrote:
> Luckily, I know you are kidding. If not I would have flown down there
> today but I already decided not to go 40 kt cross wind at 3000 ft.
> Gusting to 30 kts at Brodhead. Not for me in a Piet, I've done it before
> never again. There is always tomorrow. For now I'll sleep in the
> airconditioning tonight.
> Dick N.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gene Rambo <mailto:generambo@msn.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:44 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at
> Brodhead!!!
>
> J.C., I've never heard such whining! "it was IFRRRRR" "we had to
> drive an HOOOOUR AND A HALFFFF, _EACH WAYYYYYY_" "it was 6 PMMMMMM"
> (gets dark at 9) "we were TOO TIIIIIIRED to THIIIIINK about flying"
> "my P hurts" oh, wait, did I think that out loud?
>
> boy, in my day, we'd get up at 3 in the morning, an hour and a half
> before we went to bed, walk an hour and a half, every hour, in the
> snow, barefoot, uphill, both ways, over broken glass, with spikes,
> to change a propeller with our bare hands, being beaten to death by
> our Dad the whole time with a board full of rusty nails, to get the
> PRIVILEGE of flying a Pietenpol a couple of hours before dark, and
> be damned glad to get it!
>
> you know, you tell the kids today about this and they just don't
> believe it!
>
>
> Pussies!!
>
>
> do not archive, what's the point?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at
> Brodhead!!!
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:32:11 -0400
>
> We didnt make it out today. Weather was IFR until about 2:30 or
> 3:00, and we had to drive an hour and a half each way back to my
> hangar at Smith Mountin Lake to get my spare prop for Matts plane.
> By the time we got the new prop installed and the bungees fixed, it
> was 6:00 PM and we were too tired to think about flying. Well
> launch as early as we can in the morning and see how far we can get.
> Forecast looks pretty good. With luck, we might make it all the way,
> landing Brodhead by about 7:00 PM
>
> Jack Phillips & Matt Paxton
>
> *From:*owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *John Hofmann
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:36 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at
> Brodhead!!!
>
> I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No
> issues at all on the trip up.
>
> Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee
> give out on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during
> a tight turn. No damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the
> bungees may have been loose and went a bit over center, then were
> unable to come back. They are replacing the prop with the St Croix
> that Jack has at his hangar and tightening the bungees. With any
> luck may get across the mountains of WV today.
>
> -john-
>
> *
>
> st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> ttp://forums.matronics.com
> =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> *
>
> *
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
> *
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> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
It's flyable with minimal drama. Kinda bumpy is all. In fact, I may go try again
in a few...
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Dan Helsper's in the pattern |
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Video |
Gary... what a great video. I look forward to your aircraft flying around Holly
Lake Ranch some day. I hope to have my 'vair running by year's end. See you
at Brodhead... hopefully Friday afternoon if the old Stinson holds together
and the rain stays away.
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Robert Caldwell
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Video |
Thanks! I'll be looking for you!
------Original Message------
From: Robert Caldwell
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Run Video
Sent: Jul 20, 2011 2:09 PM
Gary... what a great video. I look forward to your aircraft flying around Holly
Lake Ranch some day. I hope to have my 'vair running by year's end. See you
at Brodhead... hopefully Friday afternoon if the old Stinson holds together
and the rain stays away.
--------
Robert Caldwell
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Matt Paxton was not able to fix his gear in time to take off for
Brodhead so is staying behind. Jack Phillips blasted off after the fog
lifted:
"The fog is getting thicker."
"And Leon's getting larrrgerrr."
Last I heard he crossed the Ohio River at 12:32 CDT. I think he will
stop short of Brodhead and come in tomorrow, but one never knows. I had
my Cub up for an hour today. Interesting thermal activity in this 98
degree heat. I will try to take some pictures and post them tonight for
those who can't make it for Holy Week.
-john-
http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Engine Questions |
What kind of carb?
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:53 AM, jeff wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey Guys and Gals,
>
> Here's a couple technical questions for those of you not pre-occupied with
> the Brodhead reunion this year.
>
>
> Question #1- We have mounted a 0-200 on our chapter Piet and removed the
> alternator and starter. We have covered the the
> alternator mount with
> aluminum plate and plan to do the same over the starter
> cavity. But
> here is the question, there is oil pumped to the starter
> gears, if we remove
> the gears and cover the hole, will that cause an oil
> pressure drop
> because that oil channel isn't hitting any resistance?
>
> Question #2- Where can we find a DIY guide for running this engine on Auto
> gas. Around
> here the only auto gas we can get includes 10% Ethanol.
> We're good with
> the fuel tank and line. Its all aluminum with brass
> fittings.
>
> Jeff Wilson
> Chapter 64
> KCPS
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
Where's Broadhead?
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM, indyaquanaut <dave@granitebydesign.us>wrote:
> dave@granitebydesign.us>
>
>
> Dale McCleskey wrote:
> > I'm planning to leave Lebanon TN sometime Thursday, fly part way and find
> a nice, soft hotel bed Thursday night. So plan to be in by noon on Friday,
> provided I don't turn my sectional upside down and wind up in L.A. (that's
> lower Alabama btw).
>
>
> Dale, I'm just on the north side of Indianapolis (KTYQ) - Indianapolis
> Executive Airport. If you make it this far Thursday and have an interest, I
> can probably find you a hanger to put your bird in Thurs. night. I also have
> a spare bedroom you can use. I plan on going to Broadhead Saturday in my
> Cessna 170. Don't have my Piet done yet. If interested let me know.
>
> Dave Esslinger
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347178#347178
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Small Update |
Thanks for the update. Thank god Jack's got the Cloudcars....cause if Leon
gets any larger....we're gonna need more grease....
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:58 PM, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>wrote:
> Matt Paxton was not able to fix his gear in time to take off for Brodhead
> so is staying behind. Jack Phillips blasted off after the fog lifted:
>
> "The fog is getting thicker."
> "And Leon's getting larrrgerrr."
>
> Last I heard he crossed the Ohio River at 12:32 CDT. I think he will stop
> short of Brodhead and come in tomorrow, but one never knows. I had my Cub up
> for an hour today. Interesting thermal activity in this 98 degree heat. I
> will try to take some pictures and post them tonight for those who can't
> make it for Holy Week.
>
> -john-
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
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| Subject: | Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
Im organising the cutting of metal parts as we speak. I have sourced 4130 at a
wholesale price through a friend. I contacted a local laser cutter and asked if
it was something his machines could do. He said that being for an aircraft,
he thought it needed to be water cut and not laser cut. I know other builders
who have had their parts laser cut so it must be ok I would assume. Does laser
produce more heat and maybe that is where hes coming from?
Just wanted to put it out there and see what others thought before I go back to
him.
Scotty
--------
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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| Subject: | Made in time for dinner! |
Met Shelly, Axel, Gary & Shad, Dan Helsper...Life is good!
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
And tell me, oh great sage, exactly what airplane are YOU flying to Brodhead
this year? Oh that's right, you didn't finish yours yet.
As an update, Matt tried the plane this morning and the landing gear gave
out again, but not as bad since he put shorter safety cables on it. I
launched about 10:15, as soon as Beckley WV was reporting VFR (they lied -
when I got there it was maybe 1000' broken. Note that the ridges around
Beckley are at least 1500' higher than the airport, so the tops of the
mountains were in the clouds and I had to fly through the valley that I-64
follows). Made it as far as Marion IN. Marion is about 4 hours from
Brodhead and it was 6:30 when I landed here, so I tied the plane down and
took the courtesy car to a hotel. I should be at Brodhead by 11:00 or so
tomorrow morning.
Matt called me at my second fuel stop and said he has put new bungees on and
the landing gear is good, so he's planning to leave early tomorrow morning
and come to Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
J.C., I've never heard such whining! "it was IFRRRRR" "we had to drive
an HOOOOUR AND A HALFFFF, EACH WAYYYYYY" "it was 6 PMMMMMM" (gets dark at
9) "we were TOO TIIIIIIRED to THIIIIINK about flying" "my P hurts" oh,
wait, did I think that out loud?
boy, in my day, we'd get up at 3 in the morning, an hour and a half before
we went to bed, walk an hour and a half, every hour, in the snow, barefoot,
uphill, both ways, over broken glass, with spikes, to change a propeller
with our bare hands, being beaten to death by our Dad the whole time with a
board full of rusty nails, to get the PRIVILEGE of flying a Pietenpol a
couple of hours before dark, and be damned glad to get it!
you know, you tell the kids today about this and they just don't believe it!
Pussies!!
do not archive, what's the point?
_____
From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
We didn't make it out today. Weather was IFR until about 2:30 or 3:00, and
we had to drive an hour and a half each way back to my hangar at Smith
Mountin Lake to get my spare prop for Matt's plane. By the time we got the
new prop installed and the bungees fixed, it was 6:00 PM and we were too
tired to think about flying. We'll launch as early as we can in the morning
and see how far we can get. Forecast looks pretty good. With luck, we
might make it all the way, landing Brodhead by about 7:00 PM
Jack Phillips & Matt Paxton
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No issues
at all on the trip up.
Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give out
on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight turn. No
damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may have been
loose and went a bit over center, then were unable to come back. They are
replacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his hangar and
tightening the bungees. With any luck may get across the mountains of WV
today.
-john-
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| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
A bunch of the parts will be welded in any event so the very localized heat from
the laser shouldn't be much of an issue. Since the original plans used a weaker
type of steel, then the very slight loss of strength on the unwelded parts
shouldn't be much of a factor. The only issue might be the difference in temper
across a narrow area allowing local stress areas prone to cracks. Proper
annealing should make it good to go.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's movie..something..."magnificent
Flying something..something..flying machines " ..
I just assembled the GN1 I bought, but couldn't get the Annual scheduled on time
for me to make it this year. Just watched the Lindbergh (Jimmy Stewart) movie
and now am studying the feasibility of trying to non-stopper next year KLNC-C37
(800sm). I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with a hand-crank pump
might work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt. Hmm... interesting.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
Be safe Jack and all flying or driving!
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at
Brodhead!!!
And tell me, oh great sage, exactly what airplane are YOU flying to Brodhead
this year? Oh that's right, you didn't finish yours yet.
As an update, Matt tried the plane this morning and the landing gear gave
out again, but not as bad since he put shorter safety cables on it. I
launched about 10:15, as soon as Beckley WV was reporting VFR (they lied -
when I got there it was maybe 1000' broken. Note that the ridges around
Beckley are at least 1500' higher than the airport, so the tops of the
mountains were in the clouds and I had to fly through the valley that I-64
follows). Made it as far as Marion IN. Marion is about 4 hours from
Brodhead and it was 6:30 when I landed here, so I tied the plane down and
took the courtesy car to a hotel. I should be at Brodhead by 11:00 or so
tomorrow morning.
Matt called me at my second fuel stop and said he has put new bungees on and
the landing gear is good, so he's planning to leave early tomorrow morning
and come to Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
J.C., I've never heard such whining! "it was IFRRRRR" "we had to drive
an HOOOOUR AND A HALFFFF, EACH WAYYYYYY" "it was 6 PMMMMMM" (gets dark at
9) "we were TOO TIIIIIIRED to THIIIIINK about flying" "my P hurts" oh,
wait, did I think that out loud?
boy, in my day, we'd get up at 3 in the morning, an hour and a half before
we went to bed, walk an hour and a half, every hour, in the snow, barefoot,
uphill, both ways, over broken glass, with spikes, to change a propeller
with our bare hands, being beaten to death by our Dad the whole time with a
board full of rusty nails, to get the PRIVILEGE of flying a Pietenpol a
couple of hours before dark, and be damned glad to get it!
you know, you tell the kids today about this and they just don't believe it!
Pussies!!
do not archive, what's the point?
_____
From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
We didn't make it out today. Weather was IFR until about 2:30 or 3:00, and
we had to drive an hour and a half each way back to my hangar at Smith
Mountin Lake to get my spare prop for Matt's plane. By the time we got the
new prop installed and the bungees fixed, it was 6:00 PM and we were too
tired to think about flying. We'll launch as early as we can in the morning
and see how far we can get. Forecast looks pretty good. With luck, we
might make it all the way, landing Brodhead by about 7:00 PM
Jack Phillips & Matt Paxton
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No issues
at all on the trip up.
Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give out
on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight turn. No
damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may have been
loose and went a bit over center, then were unable to come back. They are
replacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his hangar and
tightening the bungees. With any luck may get across the mountains of WV
today.
-john-
st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
ttp://forums.matronics.com
=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
Jack,
What's your route around Chicago? I'll be launching at about 9:30-10:00 fro
m Olson in 502R. We might be able to join up at PG. Then I'll drop off the
beets and gear, pick up John and fly back to Olson to pick up my Piet.
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:31 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> And tell me, oh great sage, exactly what airplane are YOU flying to Brodhe
ad this year? Oh that=99s right, you didn=99t finish yours yet.
>
> As an update, Matt tried the plane this morning and the landing gear gave o
ut again, but not as bad since he put shorter safety cables on it. I launch
ed about 10:15, as soon as Beckley WV was reporting VFR (they lied =93
when I got there it was maybe 1000=99 broken. Note that the ridges a
round Beckley are at least 1500=99 higher than the airport, so the top
s of the mountains were in the clouds and I had to fly through the valley th
at I-64 follows). Made it as far as Marion IN. Marion is about 4 hours fro
m Brodhead and it was 6:30 when I landed here, so I tied the plane down and t
ook the courtesy car to a hotel. I should be at Brodhead by 11:00 or so tom
orrow morning.
>
> Matt called me at my second fuel stop and said he has put new bungees on a
nd the landing gear is good, so he=99s planning to leave early tomorro
w morning and come to Brodhead.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:45 PM
> To: pietenpol-list
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!
!
>
> J.C., I've never heard such whining! "it was IFRRRRR" "we had to driv
e an HOOOOUR AND A HALFFFF, EACH WAYYYYYY" "it was 6 PMMMMMM" (gets dark a
t 9) "we were TOO TIIIIIIRED to THIIIIINK about flying" "my P hurts" oh, w
ait, did I think that out loud?
>
> boy, in my day, we'd get up at 3 in the morning, an hour and a half before
we went to bed, walk an hour and a half, every hour, in the snow, barefoot,
uphill, both ways, over broken glass, with spikes, to change a propeller wi
th our bare hands, being beaten to death by our Dad the whole time with a bo
ard full of rusty nails, to get the PRIVILEGE of flying a Pietenpol a couple
of hours before dark, and be damned glad to get it!
>
> you know, you tell the kids today about this and they just don't believe i
t!
>
>
>
>
> Pussies!!
>
>
> do not archive, what's the point?
>
>
>
>
> From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!
!
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:32:11 -0400
>
> We didn=99t make it out today. Weather was IFR until about 2:30 or 3
:00, and we had to drive an hour and a half each way back to my hangar at Sm
ith Mountin Lake to get my spare prop for Matt=99s plane. By the time
we got the new prop installed and the bungees fixed, it was 6:00 PM and we w
ere too tired to think about flying. We=99ll launch as early as we ca
n in the morning and see how far we can get. Forecast looks pretty good. W
ith luck, we might make it all the way, landing Brodhead by about 7:00 PM
>
> Jack Phillips & Matt Paxton
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:36 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!
!
>
> I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No issue
s at all on the trip up.
>
> Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give out
on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight turn. No
damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may have been loo
se and went a bit over center, then were unable to come back. They are repla
cing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his hangar and tightening t
he bungees. With any luck may get across the mountains of WV today.
>
> -john-
>
>
> st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> ttp://forums.matronics.com
> =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
Don't forget potty breaks. And stretch breaks.
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:29 PM, "TriScout" <apfelcyber@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's movie..something..."magnificent
Flying something..something..flying machines " ..
>
> I just assembled the GN1 I bought, but couldn't get the Annual scheduled on time
for me to make it this year. Just watched the Lindbergh (Jimmy Stewart) movie
and now am studying the feasibility of trying to non-stopper next year KLNC-C37
(800sm). I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with a hand-crank
pump might work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt. Hmm... interesting.
Larry
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347246#347246
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Video |
Hi Gary,
You are probably in Brodhead now so will see you tomorrow. Arlene and I are in
Waterloo tonight and will be there around noon or just after tomorrow.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines.
Some really neat stuff and some cheesy crap.
Great airplanes though.
So if the crank is in the front seat and your in
the back............?
Clif
>
> Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's
> movie..something..."magnificent Flying something..something..flying
> machines " ..
I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with a hand-crank pump might
work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt. Hmm... interesting. Larry
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