---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/27/11: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:50 AM - Re: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (Richard Schreiber) 2. 05:51 AM - Fuel Tank Bending forms (Pieti Lowell) 3. 06:05 AM - Re: Landing gear (Richard Schreiber) 4. 06:42 AM - Re: Aileron Pulley Mount (Michael Perez) 5. 07:16 AM - Re: Landing gear (Bill Church) 6. 01:12 PM - Brodhead pictures (Ken Bickers) 7. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (Gene Rambo) 8. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (mark lee) 9. 08:46 PM - Re: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (Jim Markle) 10. 10:33 PM - Re: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (mark lee) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:45 AM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet I think Bob Coolbaugh was flying the leg from Plymouth to Porter Co. There were low ceilings and a stiff wind out of the North. Watching the Curtiss on final was like watching some of the early films of the Wright brothers flying the Wright B flyer. As Bob came in on final the Curtiss Pusher did not seem stable in pitch. You could see him climbing and decending in fairly rapid oscilations. I heard that the wind was giving him some problems. Rick Schreiber ----- Original Message ----- From: shad bell Sent: 7/27/2011 12:45:15 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet Jack P., I don't think they had 164 C.I. Corvairs in 1929 either, oh well, thats what you get these days I guess. It was neat to see it head west to Valpo, the wind kicked up just enough that it looked like he had to wrestle it a little. "You meet the neatest airplanes in a Pietenpol" Shad --- On Tue, 7/26/11, James Haklin wrote: From: James Haklin Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet Look closely, it has a dummy radiator in front of the engine. Jim H. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Jack Phillips wrote: Just saw it at OSH. I had no idea they had six cylinder Continentals in 1911. Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet It was built by Bob Coolbaugh and I think his goal was to complete it for the 100th anniversary of naval flight - the Pusher was the first AC to fly off a carrier in 1911. Google on "Bob Coolbaugh curtiss pusher" and there's tons of stuff out there. Enjoy, Dan do not archive On 07/26/2011 04:00 PM, Dave Abramson wrote: > Hi Shad, do you know the story behind the 1911 pusher? Who built it, how > long it took, how it flys???? Love those old airplanes!!! > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of > *shad bell > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:36 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet > > Scott, It is based at my place in Centerburg, OH. I am very > fortunate to live on a grass airport community, it works out for Dad > as well, no hangar rent/ and an airplane in my back > yard............now if I could only get my own airplane done. > Shad > > --- On *Tue, 7/26/11, namrednos //* wrote: > > > From: namrednos > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 2:22 PM > > > > > Here is a picture I took at Lee-Bottom last year. It helped me > make up my mind that I wanted to build a Piet. Where do you keep > her, Indiana? > Scott > > -------- > Scott > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=34 > http://forums.mat > - List Contribution Web Site; &nb; http://www.===================== > > > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ======================== www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== " rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:49 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Tank Bending forms From: "Pieti Lowell" Hi Gang: Did anyone get to see the forms that I gave Doc.? These Maple blocks were cut to fit the 612 airfoil and almost 3 inches thick. One clamps the precut Aluminum between these blocks leaving 1/2" wide tab all the way around and with a hammer turn the edges 90 Deg,, one left and one right . The strap clamps that were there are used to hold the flat sheet around the ends, and welding will be very easy and non warping, I had 4 tanks made this way. I also left 2 cardboard rib forms that are marked to show where you punch the stitch holes, 1 for the prop blast area with closer distant than the second one 2, balance of the stitching.When rolled on the surface of the wing, transfer the marks, punch holes and with a strong light, the stitch is a one man job. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347826#347826 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:24 AM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear The only plans available are the ones in the manual. I used the drawings of the fittings only as a guide, especially the fittings on the inside and outside parts of the wooden gear legs. These fittings need to be matched to the actual gear legs you construct. I don't recall what gage I used. I'll measure and repost later today. Rick Schreiber ----- Original Message ----- From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP Sent: 7/27/2011 1:42:45 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear Members: My pietenpol manual has the Landing Gear and Metal Fittings section. Is there suposed to be a ful size drawing in my plans? am I missing a plan or suppliment? Needing to order the metal to make the vee fittings. Seeking thickness and amount of material needed but can't read build manual small print. KMHeide Hawley, MN No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:40 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Pulley Mount Thanks Ben. I will be adding guides once the new hardware is correct. To clarify, I am not saying the plans are wrong, I just messed mine up! Since I made them once, doing them again should go a little quicker. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:00 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear From: "Bill Church" Ken, I assume that when you say "the manual", you are referring to the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual, and therefore you are asking about the straight axle, Jenny-style gear. I agree that the tiny drawing in the EAA reprint is extremely difficult to read, but there is a larger drawing available. The Pietenpol family offers for sale a large scale drawing for the original landing gear. See this link, and scroll down to Product#7: http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/Product.html Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347838#347838 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:53 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead pictures From: Ken Bickers Kevin just posted a bunch of photos from Brodhead 2011. You'll find them at http://www.flickr.com/photos/coloradokevbot or on the Pietenpol group in Facebook. We had fun. Thanks especially to Jack for the great brat lunch on Friday and to all the Pietenpol drivers for making the event possible. Cheers, Ken ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:35:37 PM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet there are pushers in the terminals in Rochester NY and Milwaukee too. Gene do not archive > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher=2C and piet > From: glidermikeg@yahoo.com > Date: Tue=2C 26 Jul 2011 19:11:59 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > KM=2C is the pusher in the commercial terminal in Fargo? How long has it been there? > > Thanks=2C > Mike Glasgow > do not archive > > -------- > HOMEBUILDER > Will WORK for Spruce > Long flights=2C smooth air=2C and soft landings=2C > GliderMike=2C aka Mike Glasgow > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347806#347806 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet From: mark lee Seems like there was a Pusher hanging in the Tulsa Airport many years ago. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Gene Rambo wrote: > there are pushers in the terminals in Rochester NY and Milwaukee too. > > Gene > do not archive > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet > > From: glidermikeg@yahoo.com > > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:11:59 -0700 > > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > glidermikeg@yahoo.com> > > > > KM, is the pusher in the commercial terminal in Fargo? How long has it > been there? > > > > Thanks, > > Mike Glasgow > > do not archive > > > > -------- > > HOMEBUILDER > > Will WORK for Spruce > > Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, > > GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347806#347806 > > > > > > > > > > > >================= > > > > > > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:19 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet Still is..... -----Original Message----- From: mark lee Sent: Jul 27, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet Seems like there was a Pusher hanging in the Tulsa Airport many years ago. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet From: mark lee OK and here is where I'm really straining the old memory.Is that Tulsa hung Curtis pusher built without a canard?Or if it has one isn't it a very different model than the 1911 flying replica.Also in the 60s there was a Ryan trainer at Harvey Young Airport overgrown with weeds.I wanted it so bad I could taste it.I saved up enough money that I had a fair offer by the time I was 15.My dad kept saying no.If nothing else I wanted to hang it in the hay loft to get it out of the weather.That's the kind of memories that just make me wonder"what if". On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Jim Markle wrote: > jim_markle@mindspring.com> > > Still is..... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mark lee > > Sent: Jul 27, 2011 6:10 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet > > > Seems like there was a Pusher hanging in the Tulsa Airport many years ago. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.