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1. 02:30 AM - Re: Brodhead pictures (bubbleboy)
2. 04:00 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead pictures (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
3. 04:14 AM - Re: Brodhead pictures (bubbleboy)
4. 04:49 AM - Re: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (Greg Cardinal)
5. 04:57 AM - Parting out a Pietenpol (olflyr45)
6. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (Brett Phillips)
7. 07:29 AM - Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (jarheadpilot82)
8. 07:59 AM - Home from Brodhead and OSH (Woodflier@aol.com)
9. 08:14 AM - Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (Bill Church)
10. 08:58 AM - Re: Home from Brodhead and OSH (Dan Yocum)
11. 09:32 AM - Pusher pix from Valpo, IN (James Haklin)
12. 09:37 AM - Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (Billy McCaskill)
13. 09:46 AM - video over Brodhead (Dan Yocum)
14. 10:37 AM - Re: radial engine (xTrainwrecKx)
15. 10:39 AM - Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (ldmill)
16. 12:52 PM - Re: radial engine (Jerry Dotson)
17. 01:08 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead pictures (Ryan Mueller)
18. 01:20 PM - Re: Parting out a Pietenpol (Ryan Mueller)
19. 01:22 PM - Re: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet (Ryan Mueller)
20. 01:25 PM - Re: video over Brodhead (aerocarjake)
21. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: video over Brodhead (Dan Yocum)
22. 01:58 PM - Few short Brodhead videos... (Jim Markle)
23. 02:13 PM - Re: Home from Brodhead and OSH (Bill Church)
24. 02:59 PM - Re: Few short Brodhead videos... (jarheadpilot82)
25. 05:14 PM - Re: Home from Brodhead and OSH (IT Girl)
26. 06:31 PM - Re: Home from Brodhead and OSH (Jack Phillips)
27. 06:58 PM - Re: Few short Brodhead videos... (Gboothe5)
28. 07:19 PM - Re: SIGH! (IT Girl)
29. 07:32 PM - Re: Home from Brodhead and OSH (Gboothe5)
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead pictures |
Thank you for posting the pics! I was curious as to find out more about the pic
I have attached. Is that a Piet and is it the front or rear cockpit? The control
stick doesnt go forward so it makes me think its the forward seat but a lot
of controls if it is?
I was looking at all the leg room!
Can anyone else fill me in on this one?
Scotty
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Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead pictures |
Scotty, That is Bill Liimatainen's Sky Scout, beautiful one place Piet,
based at Brodhead.
Skip
<scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
> Can anyone else fill me in on this one?
>
> Scotty
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead pictures |
Thanks Skip...I was envious of all that leg room!
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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Subject: | Re: 1911 pusher, and piet |
And Minneapolis...
Greg Cardinal
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From: Gene Rambo
To: pietenpol-list
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet
there are pushers in the terminals in Rochester NY and Milwaukee too.
Gene
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1911 pusher, and piet
> From: glidermikeg@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:11:59 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
<glidermikeg@yahoo.com>
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> KM, is the pusher in the commercial terminal in Fargo? How long has
it been there?
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> Thanks,
> Mike Glasgow
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> HOMEBUILDER
> Will WORK for Spruce
> Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
> GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Subject: | Parting out a Pietenpol |
Fuselage frame, ready to cover. $1,000.
Tail group, covered, $1200
Steerable tailwheel assembly, $500
Miscellaneous small pieces
All this came from a flying airplane with about 200 hrs on it.
(865) 963-6978
wyliejohnson45@gmail.com
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Subject: | Re: 1911 pusher, and piet |
Mark brings up a good point about the canard. Most of the Curtiss
pushers that exist are of the later "headless" design, and they seem to be
much easier to fly than the canard equipped versions like the one built by
Bob Coolbaugh. Last fall, I spent some time watching Bob and Andrew King
fly off their 40 hours, and just from watching I could tell that the Ely
pusher is a real handful, particularly with regard to pitch control. Bob
pointed out that they had added screen door springs to the control column
in an effort to give some kind of feel to the pitch control and act as a
form of dampener. From an eyeball engineer's standpoint, it is easy to see
that an unusual amount (by modern standards) of control surface is devoted
to pitch control, both fore and aft, so it stands to reason that it would
be sensitive. At any rate, I'm amazed by Bob and Andrew's dedication to
flying and demonstrating this machine.
Brett Phillips
Strasburg, VA
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:31:07 -0400, mark lee <mlmarkelee7@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK and here is where I'm really straining the old memory.Is that Tulsa
> hung
> Curtis pusher built without a canard?Or if it has one isn't it a very
> different model than the 1911 flying replica.Also in the 60s there was a
> Ryan trainer at Harvey Young Airport overgrown with weeds.I wanted it so
> bad
> I could taste it.I saved up enough money that I had a fair offer by the
> time
> I was 15.My dad kept saying no.If nothing else I wanted to hang it in the
> hay loft to get it out of the weather.That's the kind of memories that
> just
> make me wonder"what if".
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Subject: | Re: 1911 pusher, and piet |
Here is a link to a very good discussion by Bob Coolbaugh of the flying characteristics
of the 1911 Curtiss Pusher-
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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Subject: | Home from Brodhead and OSH |
I touched down at Twin Rivers Airstrip in Glasgow, VA yesterday about 4
p.m. The flight home was about 12 hours total from Oshkosh, with an overnight
in Marion, IN. Weather was beautiful for the entire flight, but I hear I
left some messy stuff in OSH that came in yesterday (Wednesday) morning. It
was great meeting a lot of you in person that I've felt like I've known
through the list for years. Dan, Kevin and Shelly, John, Shad, Gary - Boothe
and Bell, Rob, Bill, Greg and a lot of others I look forward to seeing next
year, though I probably won't be flying the Piet in again for a few years
until my butt heals. Many thanks to Jack Phillips for the use of his prop and
his help in getting Nine Mike Lima airborne again after the gear trouble.
I think die springs are definitely in the works.
Thanks also to Jeff who got Jack and me primo parking for our Piets at
Oshkosh right next to the Brown Gate. That was a thrill. Good luck with you
project and let me know if I can be of any help as you progress.
Blue Skies to all of you.
Matt Paxton
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Subject: | Re: 1911 pusher, and piet |
Let's see...
Fargo,
Rochester,
Milwaukee,
Tulsa,
Minneapolis,...
Maybe we could just list the airports that DON'T have a pusher hanging in them.
BC
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Subject: | Re: Home from Brodhead and OSH |
Matt,
It was a pleasure meeting you and I'm very glad you made it back
unscathed.
We should corner Jack and see what he uses for his seat cushion - my
butt hurts too from flying too much in the Piet.
See you next year!
Dan
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On 07/28/2011 09:57 AM, Woodflier@aol.com wrote:
> I touched down at Twin Rivers Airstrip in Glasgow, VA yesterday about 4
> p.m. The flight home was about 12 hours total from Oshkosh, with an
> overnight in Marion, IN. Weather was beautiful for the entire flight,
> but I hear I left some messy stuff in OSH that came in yesterday
> (Wednesday) morning. It was great meeting a lot of you in person that
> I've felt like I've known through the list for years. Dan, Kevin and
> Shelly, John, Shad, Gary - Boothe and Bell, Rob, Bill, Greg and a lot of
> others I look forward to seeing next year, though I probably won't be
> flying the Piet in again for a few years until my butt heals. Many
> thanks to Jack Phillips for the use of his prop and his help in getting
> Nine Mike Lima airborne again after the gear trouble. I think die
> springs are definitely in the works.
> Thanks also to Jeff who got Jack and me primo parking for our Piets at
> Oshkosh right next to the Brown Gate. That was a thrill. Good luck with
> you project and let me know if I can be of any help as you progress.
> Blue Skies to all of you.
> Matt Paxton
>
> *
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>
> *
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Pusher pix from Valpo, IN |
Sorry this took so long to send. New laptop--needed different driver to
download pix. Hope this gets through.
Jim H
Almost finished Piet at VPZ
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Subject: | Re: 1911 pusher, and piet |
BTR, MSY, CMI, and IND don't have Curtiss Pushers hanging in the terminal buildings...
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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Subject: | video over Brodhead |
Hi all,
I took a short video while flying with the Black German, Dan Helsper,
over Brodhead this past weekend. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddUgZzWq0js
Dan
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
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Subject: | Re: radial engine |
This is so awesome... I want one!
Derek
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Subject: | Re: 1911 pusher, and piet |
Here's another pic of a dfferent Pusher and Piet. Took this pic on the way to Gardner,
Kansas several months ago. The pusher is the only known flying replica
(5/8 scale) of a French built Voison. The Voison was responsible for the first
air-air victory ever in WW1. It shot down a German plane. The replica cruises
at 50mph and was scratch designed/built by Corey Butcher of State Center, Iowa
- using Smithsonian plans as a starting point - within 2 years start to finish.
It uses a Geo Metro 3 cylinder engine.
Lorin
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Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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Subject: | Re: radial engine |
Sure is a waste of a fine airplane engine. I guess some Harley folks said
the same thing seeing Harleys on airplanes. I like Harleys too but don't
want to fly one. I had better go back to work on my Piet most forward
bulkhead. I just hate to call it a firewall.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead pictures |
If it was the rear cockpit you would have holes for the pilot's feet in the
plywood bulkhead....
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:26 AM, bubbleboy <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>wrote:
> scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
>
> Thank you for posting the pics! I was curious as to find out more about the
> pic I have attached. Is that a Piet and is it the front or rear cockpit? The
> control stick doesnt go forward so it makes me think its the forward seat
> but a lot of controls if it is?
>
> I was looking at all the leg room!
>
> Can anyone else fill me in on this one?
>
> Scotty
>
> --------
> Tamworth, Australia
> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
>
> www.scottyspietenpol.com
>
> Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347905#347905
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/5982485868_78b112c150_b_856.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Parting out a Pietenpol |
So what happened to the airplane?
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:54 AM, olflyr45 <wyliejohnson45@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Fuselage frame, ready to cover. $1,000.
> Tail group, covered, $1200
> Steerable tailwheel assembly, $500
> Miscellaneous small pieces
> All this came from a flying airplane with about 200 hrs on it.
> (865) 963-6978
> wyliejohnson45@gmail.com
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347909#347909
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Subject: | Re: 1911 pusher, and piet |
Well, you asked for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmFN9C9PVpg
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>wrote:
> billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Let's see...
> Fargo,
> Rochester,
> Milwaukee,
> Tulsa,
> Minneapolis,...
>
> Maybe we could just list the airports that DON'T have a pusher hanging in
> them.
>
>
> BC
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347926#347926
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Subject: | Re: video over Brodhead |
Thanks for posting - it's beyond words and makes me pine for the day...
I guess that kind of "simple flight" experience is what draws us to the Piet......!
Wonderful....................
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Subject: | Re: video over Brodhead |
Of course, I meant to say "The Black and Yellow German."
Glad you enjoyed it!
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Dan Yocum
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yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
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Subject: | Few short Brodhead videos... |
http://youtu.be/vk8HL6R31TI
http://youtu.be/BcYw7h8kl3g
http://youtu.be/Hjk1-EUJZ48
More later. Enjoy.
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Subject: | Re: Home from Brodhead and OSH |
Good to hear that the return home was uneventful, Matt. I think you had your share
of drama at the beginning of your journey. And I must say it was a pleasure
to meet the man behind the inspirational series of articles from a few years
ago. I am sure that there are many other builders out there that were also inspired
by your writing.
Must have been quite a feeling of satisfaction to land your Piet at both Brodhead
and Oshkosh, after a decade of building and dreaming.
In case there are some who have not read Matt's series of articles yet, here are
the links:
http://www.avweb.com/news/homeblts/182611-1.html
http://www.avweb.com/news/homeblts/182612-1.html
http://www.avweb.com/news/homeblts/182613-1.html
http://www.avweb.com/news/homeblts/181622-1.html
http://www.avweb.com/news/homeblts/183301-1.html
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: Few short Brodhead videos... |
The videos look great! Thanks for uploading them. great motivation.
Speaking of videos, did anyone video the Saturday discussions? I think that it
was Jeff Boatright who uploaded them to Youtube from Brodhead 2010. I was just
wondering if it was going to happen for Brodhead 2011. If you (whoever it may
be) are working on it, and just have not uploaded them to Youtube, thanks in
advance from those of us who were unable to attend.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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Subject: | Re: Home from Brodhead and OSH |
it was great meeting you all as well. Am glad you made it home safely. We hope
to see you all again in 2013!
"We should corner Jack and see what he uses for his seat cushion - my
butt hurts too from flying too much in the Piet."
Jack has a cane seat, which has a bit of give to it, and he has a cushion on top
of that, he said it is much more comfy. I believe that Dan Helsper has a similar
configuration. Both looked very comfy, and would be a nice addition to
the passenger seat of FBG.
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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Subject: | Home from Brodhead and OSH |
Thermo-rest foam is the magic answer. Works great but you still get tired
flying it.
Jack Phillips
Wondering when I will ever get to leave Oshkosh, with all this weather
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Home from Brodhead and OSH
Matt,
It was a pleasure meeting you and I'm very glad you made it back
unscathed.
We should corner Jack and see what he uses for his seat cushion - my
butt hurts too from flying too much in the Piet.
See you next year!
Dan
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On 07/28/2011 09:57 AM, Woodflier@aol.com wrote:
> I touched down at Twin Rivers Airstrip in Glasgow, VA yesterday about 4
> p.m. The flight home was about 12 hours total from Oshkosh, with an
> overnight in Marion, IN. Weather was beautiful for the entire flight,
> but I hear I left some messy stuff in OSH that came in yesterday
> (Wednesday) morning. It was great meeting a lot of you in person that
> I've felt like I've known through the list for years. Dan, Kevin and
> Shelly, John, Shad, Gary - Boothe and Bell, Rob, Bill, Greg and a lot of
> others I look forward to seeing next year, though I probably won't be
> flying the Piet in again for a few years until my butt heals. Many
> thanks to Jack Phillips for the use of his prop and his help in getting
> Nine Mike Lima airborne again after the gear trouble. I think die
> springs are definitely in the works.
> Thanks also to Jeff who got Jack and me primo parking for our Piets at
> Oshkosh right next to the Brown Gate. That was a thrill. Good luck with
> you project and let me know if I can be of any help as you progress.
> Blue Skies to all of you.
> Matt Paxton
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Few short Brodhead videos... |
Those are great, Jim!! I'll bet Ben's hair didn't stay in his face for long....
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Few short Brodhead videos...
http://youtu.be/vk8HL6R31TI
http://youtu.be/BcYw7h8kl3g
http://youtu.be/Hjk1-EUJZ48
More later. Enjoy.
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we will be there soon Tom
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
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Subject: | Home from Brodhead and OSH |
Matt,
The pleasure was all mine! You are the epitome of a Grass Roots Aviator!
Gary (Boothe)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Woodflier@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:57 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Home from Brodhead and OSH
I touched down at Twin Rivers Airstrip in Glasgow, VA yesterday about 4 p.m.
The flight home was about 12 hours total from Oshkosh, with an overnight in
Marion, IN. Weather was beautiful for the entire flight, but I hear I left
some messy stuff in OSH that came in yesterday (Wednesday) morning. It was
great meeting a lot of you in person that I've felt like I've known through
the list for years. Dan, Kevin and Shelly, John, Shad, Gary - Boothe and
Bell, Rob, Bill, Greg and a lot of others I look forward to seeing next
year, though I probably won't be flying the Piet in again for a few years
until my butt heals. Many thanks to Jack Phillips for the use of his prop
and his help in getting Nine Mike Lima airborne again after the gear
trouble. I think die springs are definitely in the works.
Thanks also to Jeff who got Jack and me primo parking for our Piets at
Oshkosh right next to the Brown Gate. That was a thrill. Good luck with you
project and let me know if I can be of any help as you progress.
Blue Skies to all of you.
Matt Paxton
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