Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Fri 07/29/11


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 04:17 AM - Re: Re: Home from Brodhead and OSH (Jack)
     2. 06:30 AM - Thrust (skellytown flyer)
     3. 06:43 AM - Re: Thrust (Gboothe5)
     4. 07:21 AM - Re: Thrust (Piet2112)
     5. 08:54 AM - Re: Contact Brodhead EAA chapter for me... (Dick N)
     6. 09:17 AM - Fw: Re: Thrust (gboothe5@comcast.net)
     7. 09:28 AM - Piet Reunion 2012? (Jeff Wilson)
     8. 09:49 AM - 2 Kiwi Piets with Toyota engines (Michael Silvius)
     9. 09:50 AM - Re: Piet Reunion 2012? (Dan Yocum)
    10. 11:44 AM - Brodhead Plans (Ben Charvet)
    11. 01:39 PM - Re: Brodhead Plans (namrednos)
    12. 01:51 PM - Re: 2 Kiwi Piets with Toyota engines (Dan Yocum)
    13. 02:29 PM - Re: 2 Kiwi Piets with Toyota engines (Michael Silvius)
    14. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: Thrust (Gboothe5)
    15. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: Thrust (Jim Boyer)
    16. 03:48 PM - Re: Re: Thrust (Gboothe5)
    17. 04:29 PM - Re: 2 Kiwi Piets with Toyota engines (mark lee)
    18. 04:33 PM - Hey Skip (sentuchows@aol.com)
    19. 06:00 PM - I-Fly 700, was Brodhead Plans (Ben Charvet)
    20. 06:54 PM - Re: Hey Skip (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
    21. 10:06 PM - Re: Re: Thrust (Clif Dawson)
    22. 11:18 PM - Re: Contact Brodhead EAA chapter for me... (aerocarjake)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:17:49 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Home from Brodhead and OSH
    Jack, your Piet looked great right up front! Jack DSM OSH Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:29 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Home from Brodhead and OSH <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Thermo-rest foam is the magic answer. Works great but you still get tired flying it. Jack Phillips Wondering when I will ever get to leave Oshkosh, with all this weather -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Home from Brodhead and OSH Matt, It was a pleasure meeting you and I'm very glad you made it back unscathed. We should corner Jack and see what he uses for his seat cushion - my butt hurts too from flying too much in the Piet. See you next year! Dan do not archive On 07/28/2011 09:57 AM, Woodflier@aol.com wrote: > I touched down at Twin Rivers Airstrip in Glasgow, VA yesterday about 4 > p.m. The flight home was about 12 hours total from Oshkosh, with an > overnight in Marion, IN. Weather was beautiful for the entire flight, > but I hear I left some messy stuff in OSH that came in yesterday > (Wednesday) morning. It was great meeting a lot of you in person that > I've felt like I've known through the list for years. Dan, Kevin and > Shelly, John, Shad, Gary - Boothe and Bell, Rob, Bill, Greg and a lot of > others I look forward to seeing next year, though I probably won't be > flying the Piet in again for a few years until my butt heals. Many > thanks to Jack Phillips for the use of his prop and his help in getting > Nine Mike Lima airborne again after the gear trouble. I think die > springs are definitely in the works. > Thanks also to Jeff who got Jack and me primo parking for our Piets at > Oshkosh right next to the Brown Gate. That was a thrill. Good luck with > you project and let me know if I can be of any help as you progress. > Blue Skies to all of you. > Matt Paxton > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 06:30:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Thrust
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    I know there was some discussion of a pull scale being brought to the big gathering. did anyone ever get around to doing a comparison on the various planes with it? that will be a fun and interesting article to read about I hope. I know there was too much fun being had to devote a lot of time to it but just wondering. Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347990#347990


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    Time: 06:43:49 AM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Thrust
    That would have been an interesting project, Raymond, but never happened. The scales are now firmly in my possession (even if temporary), and I am awaiting an appropriate time to run my flying contraption outside and do a full throttle run-up (wife needs to be gone!). I don't know much about prop thrust, and what it means in a test like this, but I am looking for somewhere between 250-290 lbs. Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skellytown flyer Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 6:28 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Thrust <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> I know there was some discussion of a pull scale being brought to the big gathering. did anyone ever get around to doing a comparison on the various planes with it? that will be a fun and interesting article to read about I hope. I know there was too much fun being had to devote a lot of time to it but just wondering. Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347990#347990


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    Time: 07:21:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Thrust
    From: "Piet2112" <curtdm@gmail.com>
    Gary, Although it would be a pleasure to meet your bride when I visit, if she's not there and you haven't done a full-throttle run-up, I'd be glad to assist. Your neighbors will complain about the noise but they'll get over it. Curt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347994#347994


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    Time: 08:54:15 AM PST US
    From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Contact Brodhead EAA chapter for me...
    Jake I sent it off to Mike Weeden at Brodhead. If you need to get a hold of him in the future his address is; blueleader@wekz.net Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:47 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Contact Brodhead EAA chapter for me... > <flight.jake@gmail.com> > > Could someone at Brodhead please contact the Brodhead EAA chapter > treasurer for me. I wrote them a modest check for their building campaign > many months ago and right away got a nice thank you letter back - but the > check has never been cashed....?!?!?!?? > > I want to make sure the funds go to their new hangar project..... > > Thanks.......... > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347310#347310 > > >


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    Time: 09:17:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Thrust
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    ------Original Message------ Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Thrust Sent: Jul 29, 2011 7:50 AM Curt, That's a mighty attractive offer! Wonder how much it's going to cost me to get her to leave for awhile... Gary Do not archive ------Original Message------ From: Piet2112 ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Thrust Sent: Jul 29, 2011 7:19 AM Gary, Although it would be a pleasure to meet your bride when I visit, if she's not there and you haven't done a full-throttle run-up, I'd be glad to assist. Your neighbors will complain about the noise but they'll get over it. Curt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347994#347994 Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry


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    Time: 09:28:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Piet Reunion 2012?
    From: Jeff Wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com>
    I know the reunion at Brodhead is usually always the weekend before Airventure but because I need to plan a year in advance, I just want to verify that it is indeed going to be the Thursday, Friday and Saturday of July 19, 20 and 21, 2012. Because with a little luck and spousal cooperation, I'll be flying a brand new Pietenpol up to Brodhead and then on to Oshkosh next year. Can anyone verify this for me? Jeff Wilson N899WT St. Louis Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 09:49:18 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Silvius" <silvius@gwi.net>
    Subject: 2 Kiwi Piets with Toyota engines
    http://nzcivair.blogspot.com/2009/02/parasol-wings-at-ashburton.html Aircamper ZK-PRB which was built by Evan and Penny Belworthy at Cust in Canterbury. It was first registered on 26/6/97. It was originally powered by a converted Ford Model A engine, then a converted Ford Cortina engine, and now is powered by a converted Toyota Hilux engine. ZK-JBF which is a customised Pietenpol Aircamper. It was registered on 16/6/06 to Andrew Fairhall at Blenhiem. It is also powered by a converted Toyota Hilux engine. Michael


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    Time: 09:50:53 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Piet Reunion 2012?
    EAA says Airventure is July 23-29, 2012, so the Pietenpol Reunion will be the 3 days prior: http://www.eaa.org/calendar/eventdetail.aspx?id=7013 Cheers, Dan On 07/29/2011 11:25 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Wilson<jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com> > > I know the reunion at Brodhead is usually always the weekend before Airventure but because I need to plan a year in advance, I just want to verify that it is indeed going to be the Thursday, Friday and Saturday of July 19, 20 and 21, 2012. Because with a little luck and spousal cooperation, I'll be flying a brand new Pietenpol up to Brodhead and then on to Oshkosh next year. > > Can anyone verify this for me? > > Jeff Wilson > N899WT > St. Louis > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 11:44:14 AM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Brodhead Plans
    After hearing all your posts last week about Brodhead, I planned out the trip on my I-fly 700 gps. Took off this morning and pointed the nose at 320 degrees. When I turned around I was only 14 hrs 15 min from being there. Sure hope to make it next year -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center


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    Time: 01:39:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead Plans
    From: "namrednos" <namrednos@yahoo.com>
    Ben how do you like your Ifly 700. Is it big in the cockpit. Is it bright enough. Is it better than the Anywhere Maps GPS Thanks Scott -------- Scott Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348024#348024


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    Time: 01:51:42 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: 2 Kiwi Piets with Toyota engines
    Neat! Isn't the hilux engine the one that the Top Gear guys drowned in the ocean, crashed through a camper, and ultimately dropped off a building during a demolition and it survived? On 07/29/2011 12:46 PM, Michael Silvius wrote: > http://nzcivair.blogspot.com/2009/02/parasol-wings-at-ashburton.html > Aircamper ZK-PRB which was built by Evan and Penny Belworthy at Cust in > Canterbury. It was first registered on 26/6/97. It was originally > powered by a converted Ford Model A engine, then a converted Ford > Cortina engine, and now is powered by a converted Toyota Hilux engine. > ZK-JBF which is a customised Pietenpol Aircamper. It was registered on > 16/6/06 to Andrew Fairhall at Blenhiem. It is also powered by a > converted Toyota Hilux engine. > Michael > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 02:29:23 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Silvius" <silvius@gwi.net>
    Subject: Re: 2 Kiwi Piets with Toyota engines
    Dan: The one on Top Gear was the diesel vesion of the Tacoma/Hilux. Unfortunately they never sold those in the US. The photo of ZK-PRB shows a carb, so I suspect it is the venrable R-22 (gasoline) engine. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_y93A2MLIpKw/SZKGqT8PEiI/AAAAAAAAAGs/sIHoz1abOzI/s1600-h/IMG_1023.JPG Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov> > Neat! Isn't the hilux engine the one that the Top Gear guys drowned in > the ocean, crashed through a camper, and ultimately dropped off a building > during a demolition and it survived? > > > On 07/29/2011 12:46 PM, Michael Silvius wrote: >> http://nzcivair.blogspot.com/2009/02/parasol-wings-at-ashburton.html


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    Time: 03:08:00 PM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Thrust
    Curt (and others), Well, that wasn't so bad. apparently, in N. Calif, the price for getting one's wife to leave long enough to conduct full throttle run-ups in front of the house is the cost of a new 24"+ monitor...which just goes to prove, again, that everyone has their price! (your individual results may vary). For those that do not know, Curt is a Southwest pilot from Flower Mound, Texas, (I only recruit the best), and my Piet may never again have such a high time pilot behind the stick! He is making the 1-hr trip from Sacramento, during a lay-over. Curt - this is not a 1-man job, and your help will be most appreciated! Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gboothe5@comcast.net Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:16 AM Subject: Fw: Pietenpol-List: Re: Thrust ------Original Message------ Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Thrust Sent: Jul 29, 2011 7:50 AM Curt, That's a mighty attractive offer! Wonder how much it's going to cost me to get her to leave for awhile... Gary Do not archive ------Original Message------ From: Piet2112 ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Thrust Sent: Jul 29, 2011 7:19 AM Gary, Although it would be a pleasure to meet your bride when I visit, if she's not there and you haven't done a full-throttle run-up, I'd be glad to assist. Your neighbors will complain about the noise but they'll get over it. Curt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347994#347994 Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR


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    Time: 03:18:43 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Thrust
    HI Gary, What do you suppose the cost of getting my next door neighbor to be gone would be? He is the Santa Rosa police chief; most of my other neighbors are older and can't hear anyway! I wonder if Tom is a computer guru? Cheers, Jim B.


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    Time: 03:48:50 PM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Thrust
    Well, Jim, I=99m no expert, but I am told that Police Chiefs come at a higher pricepossibly more than a Piet builder could afford. Maybe even more than an RV builder could afford. However, he would never make it to Chief without developing a taste for scotch or whiskey. A case of JD would do if he were a whisky drinker, but if he=99s a scotch man, 1 bottle of =98Oban=99 Single Malt Scotch would suffice. Jack Phillips will attest to that. Now you know what goes on at =98The Cove.=99 Here=99s the good news, though.I=99m only doing a full throttle run-up to test the pitch on my home made prop. You should suffice with just a partial run-up Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Thrust HI Gary, What do you suppose the cost of getting my next door neighbor to be gone would be? He is the Santa Rosa police chief; most of my other neighbors are older and can't hear anyway! I wonder if Tom is a computer guru? Cheers, Jim B.


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    Time: 04:29:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 2 Kiwi Piets with Toyota engines
    From: mark lee <mlmarkelee7@gmail.com>
    It's hard to get an idea of the prop length.Is that prop direct drive? On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net> wrote: > > Dan: > > The one on Top Gear was the diesel vesion of the Tacoma/Hilux. > Unfortunately they never sold those in the US. > The photo of ZK-PRB shows a carb, so I suspect it is the venrable R-22 > (gasoline) engine. > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_**y93A2MLIpKw/SZKGqT8PEiI/** > AAAAAAAAAGs/sIHoz1abOzI/s1600-**h/IMG_1023.JPG<http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_y93A2MLIpKw/SZKGqT8PEiI/AAAAAAAAAGs/sIHoz1abOzI/s1600-h/IMG_1023.JPG> > > Michael > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov> > > > Neat! Isn't the hilux engine the one that the Top Gear guys drowned in >> the ocean, crashed through a camper, and ultimately dropped off a building >> during a demolition and it survived? >> >> >> >> On 07/29/2011 12:46 PM, Michael Silvius wrote: >> >>> http://nzcivair.blogspot.com/**2009/02/parasol-wings-at-**ashburton.html<http://nzcivair.blogspot.com/2009/02/parasol-wings-at-ashburton.html> >>> >> > >


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    Time: 04:33:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Hey Skip
    From: sentuchows@aol.com
    Hey Skip, Did Gary Barger make it up to Brodhead this year . ??? Dave? ?


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    Time: 06:00:59 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: I-Fly 700, was Brodhead Plans
    I have the GPS mounted via the suction cup provided to an aluminum plate I fastened under the instrument panel. It is bright enough, as I have a flop and not a cutout in my center section so its rarely in the sun. I haven't played with an Anywhere Maps GPS, but I think the price of the I-Fly is hard to beat. Of course you could argue that I won't be doing all that many cross-countries, but handling a sectional in a Pietenpol ain't much fun either. Ben On 7/29/2011 4:36 PM, namrednos wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "namrednos"<namrednos@yahoo.com> > > Ben how do you like your Ifly 700. Is it big in the cockpit. Is it bright enough. Is it better than the Anywhere Maps GPS > > Thanks Scott > > -------- > Scott > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348024#348024 > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center


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    Time: 06:54:37 PM PST US
    From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Hey Skip
    Dave, I talked to Gary about a week before Brodhead. He said It was too hot for him this year. A lot of folks at Brodhead ask about him. He is almost a legend there as the first year he went there, think it was 1991, he showed up about 10PM on his motor cycle from N Carolina and refused to be shown where to camp until he saw a Pietenpol in person. I guess the Brodhead folks thought that was kind of cool. I heard your North End cook out was great. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 7/29/2011 7:34:15 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hey Skip Hey Skip, Did Gary Barger make it up to Brodhead this year . Dave


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    Time: 10:06:41 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Thrust
    Why don't you just ask him to help. It's an engine. He's a guy. Tell him you'll help him build up one for his lawn mower. Clif Confucius--"An inconvenience is an unrecognized opportunity." Well, Jim, I=99m no expert, but I am told that Police Chiefs come at a higher price However, he would never make it to Chief without developing a taste for scotch or whiskey. Gary


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    Time: 11:18:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Contact Brodhead EAA chapter for me...
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Thanks Dick..... hope Paul and the guys at ROTEC were fun this year...... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348055#348055




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