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1. 03:27 AM - Re: Piet vs. GN-1 (John Franklin)
2. 05:05 AM - Re: alternative construction materials (Jack Phillips)
3. 05:05 AM - Re: Piet vs. GN-1 (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
4. 05:15 AM - Re: Parting out a Pietenpol (olflyr45)
5. 05:19 AM - Re: Piet vs. GN-1 (Jack Phillips)
6. 05:37 AM - Re: Piet vs. GN-1 (Dale McCleskey)
7. 06:11 AM - Re: cabanes (Pieti Lowell)
8. 06:32 AM - Re: Piet vs. GN-1 (Bill Church)
9. 06:42 AM - Wash Out (Pieti Lowell)
10. 06:50 AM - Re: Piet vs. GN-1 (steve@wotelectronics.com)
11. 07:19 AM - Re: cabanes (Bill Church)
12. 08:09 AM - Re: Where to find good, cheap turnbuckles (Michael Perez)
13. 08:10 AM - Re: Wing Strut Cable Length Change (Michael Perez)
14. 08:42 AM - metal bender (Timothy Willis)
15. 09:44 AM - Re: Piet vs. GN-1 (FlyBoy57)
16. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: Piet vs. GN-1 (Ryan Mueller)
17. 01:24 PM - Re: metal bender (Bill Church)
18. 01:31 PM - Bob Edson's piet pictures (Dan Yocum)
19. 01:46 PM - Re: Re: source for Eisemann magneto parts? (Dan Yocum)
20. 03:04 PM - Re: Bob Edson's piet pictures (Bill Church)
21. 03:58 PM - Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly (IT Girl)
22. 04:21 PM - Re: Re: source for Eisemann magneto parts? (helspersew@aol.com)
23. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly (shad bell)
24. 04:42 PM - Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly (IT Girl)
25. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: source for Eisemann magneto parts? (Dan Yocum)
26. 05:09 PM - Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly (IT Girl)
27. 06:35 PM - M.E.R.F.I. Ohio area pieters (shad bell)
28. 07:12 PM - Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly (kevinpurtee)
29. 07:53 PM - Does anybody recognize this... (Bill Church)
30. 08:02 PM - Re: Does anybody recognize this... (K5YAC)
31. 08:05 PM - Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly (K5YAC)
32. 08:13 PM - Re: Re: Does anybody recognize this... (Jim Markle)
33. 08:19 PM - Re: Does anybody recognize this... (Bill Church)
34. 09:51 PM - Re: Does anybody recognize this... (K5YAC)
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Subject: | Re: Piet vs. GN-1 |
Donato,
I'm building a GN-1 and I recommend you build the Piet. There is more support
for the Piet, and any desirable feature that the GN-1 has can be done on the Piet
as a modification. Of course you risk running afoul of the dreaded "Piet
Police", but other than that, no problem. I don't think there is much difference
as far as flying goes but perhaps someone else can comment on that.
Good luck,
John F.
Richmond, TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: FlyBoy57 <donato_m@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 1, 2011 9:34 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet vs. GN-1
>
>
>I have all of the Pietenpol plans and just purchased the GN-1 plans. I have read
some great posts on the pros and cons of each, but I need more details. I
am not 100% sure at this time which airplane I should build.
>
>Can anyone please tell me why you chose to build and fly the GN-1 over the original
Pietenpol? Do they fly the same? Any major cost differences or building
skills needed?
>
>Thanks a bunch, please send me all of your thoughts pros and cons.
>
>Blue skies,
>Donato
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348327#348327
>
>
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Subject: | alternative construction materials |
All I can say is "Why?"
If you want a steel tube airplane, build one. If you want an aluminum
airplane, build one.
If you want a Pietenpol, build it as close to the plans as possible and you
will have a good flying airplane.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
letchik.ivan@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: alternative construction materials
I was wondering if anyone has built a Pietenpol Air Camper or Sky Scout with
materials other than wood or less wood? I know that the Pietenpol was
designed to make use of wood in its construction. There is also a
supplemental plan drawn by Bernard Pietenpol which uses metal tubing to
construct the fuselage.
Has anyone built a Pietenpol using more metal than the original plans called
for? For example using light metal tubing for the tail and stabilizer
section, or perhaps aircraft grade aluminum for the wing ribs or spar, or
maybe sheet aluminum on the leading edge of the wing or in place of plywood
on the fuselage, or any other combination. Would the aircraft weigh more if
constructed in the way I just described? Could a more powerful engine
overcome the added weight of having used heavier construction materials? I
know the L4 / J3 Piper Cub is built with all metal structural components
covered with cloth skin and is powered by a 65 hp Continental engine, so I
am wondering if similar construction technique could be used on a Pietenpol?
Tom
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Donato,
I have some hours in both. They fly virtually the same. I would build a
Piet. The Piet has more cachet.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: FlyBoy57 <donato_m@hotmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 8/1/2011 10:38:51 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet vs. GN-1
>
>
> I have all of the Pietenpol plans and just purchased the GN-1 plans. I
have read some great posts on the pros and cons of each, but I need more
details. I am not 100% sure at this time which airplane I should build.
>
> Can anyone please tell me why you chose to build and fly the GN-1 over
the original Pietenpol? Do they fly the same? Any major cost differences
or building skills needed?
>
> Thanks a bunch, please send me all of your thoughts pros and cons.
>
> Blue skies,
> Donato
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348327#348327
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Parting out a Pietenpol |
The guy who owned it got to be in such bad shape that he had to quit flying. We
bought it for the engine. Both of us are too big to get in it so we're passing
the parts along to people who can use them. That's better than letting it
sit somewhere and rot away.
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I agree with Skip. I've flown both and they fly virtually identical. The
Pietenpol has some advantages that the GN-1 doesn't, and the advantage the
GN-1 had at one time (the ability to use then-cheap Cub or Champ parts) no
longer applies.
Besides, it's cooler to describe your airplane as "the first truly
successful homebuilt design, dating from 1929" than "this is sort of a copy
of the world's first truly successful homebuilt design, which was done in
1929, but this copy was designed in the late 1950's".
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
skipgadd@earthlink.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet vs. GN-1
<skipgadd@earthlink.net>
Donato,
I have some hours in both. They fly virtually the same. I would build a
Piet. The Piet has more cachet.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: FlyBoy57 <donato_m@hotmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 8/1/2011 10:38:51 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet vs. GN-1
>
>
> I have all of the Pietenpol plans and just purchased the GN-1 plans. I
have read some great posts on the pros and cons of each, but I need more
details. I am not 100% sure at this time which airplane I should build.
>
> Can anyone please tell me why you chose to build and fly the GN-1 over
the original Pietenpol? Do they fly the same? Any major cost differences
or building skills needed?
>
> Thanks a bunch, please send me all of your thoughts pros and cons.
>
> Blue skies,
> Donato
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348327#348327
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Piet vs. GN-1 |
I've got nearly 200 hours on my GN-1 and I love it. Haven't flown a Piet to compare.
But I'm no hope for reason. I built (completed) the GN-1 because I found
a partially built project and finished it. It was on the gear with a gear, cowl,
and engine mount and gas tank off a cub. I've since had to replace the tank
(rust) and the gear (had been repaired with inferior tubing), so don't know
how much that really saved. If I were starting over I'd choose the long Piet
version. One other note is I have the front cockpit door, and while it's controversial
on the list, I wouldn't take for it. Have been able to fly a bunch of
my more "mature" buddies who would never have been able to climb in without it.
--------
Dale McCleskey
N7035N
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Bill:
Great Pictures, and excellent work.
I will just touch on the subject lightly once again, Bill Rewey received my initial
information from H. Riblett a number of years ago an ask if he could reproduce
to others, I suggested he get in touch with Harold R. to pursue his thoughts.
I do not know if Bill flew a Riblett airfoil.
Bill Church with his back ground, In my opinion has a good idea of the 11/16" dimension
to get the 1 degree that Harold said is the angle required for his foil,
I think that the proper angle would depend on the power you have up front and the
speed you are comfortable with. I like around 80 and that requires less angle
than 65 MPH. Why I suggested same length, with 0200
Keep in mind that when I received my Engineering Degree, the Freiden Machine required
a week-end to produce formulas to allow my Thesis to be accepted At IIT.
On the torsional Vibrations of a V 6 Diesel crankshaft, when it was never conceived
as practical. Thank God we never relied on the computer, or we may be
on Mars by now.
Pieti Lowell
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Subject: | Re: Piet vs. GN-1 |
Donato,
You have both sets of plans, so you should be able to see the differences between
the two designs. While I don't have a set of GN-1 plans, the "improvements"
that I have been able to discern don't seem to fall within the definition of
that word. The most noticable changes are:
1. Plywood fuselage side skins run all the way back to the tailpost, rather than
stopping at the rear cockpit. This feature adds strength and weight where it
is not needed - why bother?.
2. The use of Piper Cub landing gear. Surplus Cub landing gear is no longer readily
available, so IF you can find a set, they will not be cheap. But more importantly,
the landing gear attach points do not line up with the rear lift strut
attach points. Structurally, this does not make sense, and aesthetically it
isn't right either. So, if you will need to build your own gear, why not make
a set of gear that was designed for the plane that you're building, as opposed
to building a replica of landing gear that was designed for a different plane.
3. Different cabane strut mounting brackets. For some reason, Grega redesigned
the mounting brackets for the cabane attachments, and in doing so, eliminated
the possibility of tilting the cabanes fore or aft, for W&B adjustment. As a result,
the GN-1 does not offer much ability to compensate for CG that varies from
the norm, other than adding ballast, or building a new motor mount. One of
the beauties of the Pietenpol design is the ability to tilt the cabanes, and
effectively move the wing back (actually, it moves the entire fuselage forward)
to account for tail heaviness. This is a far superior method than adding ballast
in the nose or tail.
So, from a design perspective, I personally cannot see any benefit of these three
"improvements". And, since the feedback from pilots that have flown both seems
to indicate no noticeable difference in flight characteristics, one would
have to wonder why one would choose the GN-1 over the Pietenpol plans.
I think that the reason why many builders chose the GN-1 over the Pietenpol was
that for many years, the GN-1 plans were only $25, whereas the Pietenpol plans
were two or three times that price. However, a savings of $25 or $50 on the
overall cost of an aircraft is extremely insignificant, and really should not
have been a deciding factor. But people can be funny sometimes.
Bill C.
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It is important that a little wash-out is necessary in order to make nice gentle
stalls and good landings.
Some of the wings that I saw at Brodhead had no washout, gap-seals are necessary
but do not take the place of washout.
I suggest 1/2" to1.0" if there is no dihedral, it makes a great difference during
the stall. As the stall moves outward the stability increases when control
decreases.
If wash-out is applied to the wing, is the angle of incident required to be also
changed ?
Has anyone read the article about the adjustable angle of incident airplane that
was featured in the 30's ? I read it many years ago and don't remember all the
facts. That is the price one pays for getting in their 80's. You all will have
to deal with it one day , so take notes.
Pieti Lowell
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I have a GN-1, built (finished) in 1983. It has about 700 hours total
time on it, about 400 of those are mine. I've also flow "true" Piets,
and they fly nearly identical. My wing does have negative camber, and
to me is visually identical to the Piet wing.
The wing is much higher than the Piet, which makes getting in and out
much easier. However, I wonder if this doesn't slow my plane down due
to the elevator being trimmed down to counteract the up-pitching moment
from the wing's drag being so far above the cg & thrustline (in addition
to the up-pitching moment of the wing itself).
My plane has a J3 cowl and a modified J3 gear. I like the Jenny gear
far better, and a lot of the custom Piet cowls look more antique than
mine. It is a really good plane, well built, reliable, and no serious
flaws or bad flight characteristics. I got a little too close to a
small thunderstorm cell once, trying to sneak around it and scared
myself nearly to death. The turbulence ripped the gap seals off the
elevators and jerked me hard into the straps for a few minutes but the
plane held together (as Axle says, "I didn't like it much"). The Cub
gear is indestructible on a plane this light. With the big tires I can
land on any terrain...I am confident the fuselage would break before the
gear. It is really fun to fly and as far as nearly anyone else knows,
it is an antique. But I know better...I wish it was a Piet. Even so,
I'd say it is about 90% Piet. It draws a crowd at any fly-in, but
probably wouldn't at Broadhead where everyone knows better...I intend to
make it one day. When I bought it I had about 75 hours of total flight
time...I didn't know much. 7 years later, I know a little more about
antiques.
I'm waiting for Mike Cuy to die so I can buy his Piet, unless he'll
trade it for a GN-1 straight up, right now. I will even throw in a ride
with the 2nd greatest flyer in the world.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 08:16:57 -0400, Jack Phillips wrote:
> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> I agree with Skip. I've flown both and they fly virtually identical.
> The
> Pietenpol has some advantages that the GN-1 doesn't, and the
> advantage the
> GN-1 had at one time (the ability to use then-cheap Cub or Champ
> parts) no
> longer applies.
>
> Besides, it's cooler to describe your airplane as "the first truly
> successful homebuilt design, dating from 1929" than "this is sort of
> a copy
> of the world's first truly successful homebuilt design, which was
> done in
> 1929, but this copy was designed in the late 1950's".
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> skipgadd@earthlink.net
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:03 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet vs. GN-1
>
> <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
>
> Donato,
> I have some hours in both. They fly virtually the same. I would build
> a
> Piet. The Piet has more cachet.
> Skip
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: FlyBoy57 <donato_m@hotmail.com>
>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: 8/1/2011 10:38:51 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet vs. GN-1
>>
>> <donato_m@hotmail.com>
>>
>> I have all of the Pietenpol plans and just purchased the GN-1 plans.
>> I
> have read some great posts on the pros and cons of each, but I need
> more
> details. I am not 100% sure at this time which airplane I should
> build.
>>
>> Can anyone please tell me why you chose to build and fly the GN-1
>> over
> the original Pietenpol? Do they fly the same? Any major cost
> differences
> or building skills needed?
>>
>> Thanks a bunch, please send me all of your thoughts pros and cons.
>>
>> Blue skies,
>> Donato
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348327#348327
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Bob,
That is very impressive progress for one year. Wow.
Just to be clear, when you say you were told to make the cabanes the same length,
do you mean the same length as the Pietenpol plans show, or the same length
front and back?
I was mentioned in a couple of replies to your question, so I thought I should
chime in. First, a disclaimer; I have built standard Pietenpol airfoil ribs for
my plane, not Riblett airfoil ribs. The calculations that I did were in response
to some questions that came up here on the List, and are theoretical - not
proven. However, they seem to make sense, and appear to be in concurrence with
Lowell's real-world experience. As far as we know, Lowell has the only flying
example of an Air camper with the Riblett wing.
Here's a link to the calculations:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336915&highlight=#336915
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: Where to find good, cheap turnbuckles |
Thank you, however, since one of the 8 are broke, it would not really help
me. That's too bad...your plane with those wires would have been sweet.
Michael Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
--- On Mon, 8/1/11, John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com> wrote:
From: John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where to find good, cheap turnbuckles
There are of course 8 wires--a left and right thread on each end--that is 1
6 threads. I got 12 threads free, 3 still frozen, and broke one off.- I w
as very gentle, but it broke. One of the wires is also pitted. I was going
to try to "save" these, but when one broke, I gave up. But sure, I might co
nsider giving these up if you want to mess with them.
=0A
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> w
rote:
=0AJohn, if there is a way for you to remove the flying wires intact, (say
without cutting them off), I would be interested in having them. Assuming y
ou plan on throwing them away, we can work out a deal.
=0A
Michael Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
=0A
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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Subject: | Re: Wing Strut Cable Length Change |
Understood. I'll wait until the rest of the plane is together and the final wing
location is determined.
Thanks for the intell.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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I have shown a couple of fellow Piet builders my little metal bender.
They liked it. , esp. Others may be interested.
It comes from Lee Valley Tools, a great source for many things. Here
is a link to the item, priced at $22.50:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32011&cat=1,43456,43407
I have a Harbor Freight 18 inch brake for longer pieces, esp. aluminum
sheet, but for steel I really like the controllability and leverage I
get with this item in my big vise.
I bent up all the control horns using the Lee Valley item, but not
using the sharp male side. (Looking at a picture will make more
sense.) I used only the "V" female side in that application, with
various punches or round bars on the other side, to impart radiused
bends instead of sharp bends. (Then I hammered the piece a lot with a
big rubber hammer, to soften the many minor bends into something
smoother.)
On all the other pieces with straight bends, the rig works well out of
the box, even on .090 in. thick 4130 steel.
Tim in central TX
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Subject: | Re: Piet vs. GN-1 |
First I want to thank all of you who posted a response I really appreciate your
thoughts. I'm staying with the original Pietenpol plans. The support for this
airplane is overwhelming and that's important to me. You guys are the greatest,
thanks again.
I'm sure I will post more questions as I move along. Ordering the spruce wood
today from Aircraft Spruce.
Oh, I do want to mention I attended Jack's presentation at Oshkosh and he helped
me out there too. Kudos to Jack. I also attended the EAA Woodworking Workshop
and learned allot there too.
Thanks again, Blue skies,
Donato
Future Pietenpol builder/owner
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Subject: | Re: Piet vs. GN-1 |
Yet another reason to avoid putting in a front door: "Sorry Hank, you're too
big and stove up to get in, but I can fly your lovely granddaughter just
fine"
do not archive
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Dale McCleskey
<dale.mccleskey@lifeway.com>wrote:
> dale.mccleskey@lifeway.com>
>
> I've got nearly 200 hours on my GN-1 and I love it. Haven't flown a Piet to
> compare. But I'm no hope for reason. I built (completed) the GN-1 because I
> found a partially built project and finished it. It was on the gear with a
> gear, cowl, and engine mount and gas tank off a cub. I've since had to
> replace the tank (rust) and the gear (had been repaired with inferior
> tubing), so don't know how much that really saved. If I were starting over
> I'd choose the long Piet version. One other note is I have the front cockpit
> door, and while it's controversial on the list, I wouldn't take for it. Have
> been able to fly a bunch of my more "mature" buddies who would never have
> been able to climb in without it.
>
> --------
> Dale McCleskey
> N7035N
>
>
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Subject: | Re: metal bender |
Tim,
I have the exact same tool. It is very handy for bending small parts.
I found the surface texture of the dies to be a bit rough, so I smoothed them and
put a little bit of a radius on the male die (using a file).
The actual radius achieved in bending depends more on the alloy and thickness of
the material and the opening dimension of the female die than it does on the
radius of the male die. That's just the nature of bending metal. Of course, if
the metal being bent is soft, the radius becomes more important.
Lee Valley sure makes some nice woodworking tools.
Bill C
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Subject: | Bob Edson's piet pictures |
Bob sent me some pictures of his plane which he's agreed to let me
forward to the list. In his former lives he's been a cabinet maker and
fine instrument artisan and it really shows in the quality of his work.
It's outstanding quality in my humble opinion.
I see hints of Helsper and Cardinal in his project, too.
He'll hang the wings in a couple of weeks and start covering soon after
that. I suspect we'll see him at Brodhead, next year.
Enjoy!
Dan
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Subject: | Re: source for Eisemann magneto parts? |
They replied to my email sent through TAP. $3.50 per spring/brush. $17
for 2 sets plus s&h. Can't be beat.
Thanks,
Dan
On 08/01/2011 09:38 PM, Don Emch wrote:
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> Definitely call them. Great people to deal with but they just don't do "modern".
You can just describe to them what you need over the phone and they'll send
it out. They don't do Visa. Just check or C.O.D. If you are in a bind you
can tell them and usually they will send it out before they receive the payment.
I've bought a lot of stuff from them...always good quality.
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> NX899DE
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Subject: | Re: Bob Edson's piet pictures |
Nice!
Just wondering how anyone could accomplish all of that work, with that level of
workmanship, in just one year. Amazing.
BC
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Subject: | Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly |
I thoroughly enjoyed hanging out with all of you. A great time was had by all,
often at my expense!
I look forward to next year!
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IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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Subject: | Re: source for Eisemann magneto parts? |
Were those S&H Green Stamps? ................Sorry, showing my age. (You DI
D say that they didn't do modern)
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: source for Eisemann magneto parts?
They replied to my email sent through TAP. $3.50 per spring/brush. $17
or 2 sets plus s&h. Can't be beat.
Thanks,
an
n 08/01/2011 09:38 PM, Don Emch wrote:
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Definitely call them. Great people to deal with but they just don't do
modern". You can just describe to them what you need over the phone and
hey'll send it out. They don't do Visa. Just check or C.O.D. If you are
in a
ind you can tell them and usually they will send it out before they receive
the
ayment. I've bought a lot of stuff from them...always good quality.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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ermilab 630.840.6509
ocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
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Subject: | Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly |
We will all have to pitch in again next time for some nice mellons.
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly
I thoroughly enjoyed hanging out with all of you.- A great time was had b
y all, often at my expense!
I look forward to next year!
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Subject: | Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly |
I thoroughly enjoyed hanging out with all of you. A great time was had by all,
often at my expense!
I look forward to next year!
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IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
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Subject: | Re: source for Eisemann magneto parts? |
I asked - they don't accept green stamps. Strangely, they would accept Canad
ian Tire Dollars...
;-)
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yocum137@gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:18 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> Were those S&H Green Stamps? ................Sorry, showing my age. (You D
ID say that they didn't do modern)
>
> Dan Helsper
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> From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 3:47 pm
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: source for Eisemann magneto parts?
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>
> They replied to my email sent through TAP. $3.50 per spring/brush. $17
> for 2 sets plus s&h. Can't be beat.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>
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e in a
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ve the
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Subject: | Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly |
I come fully stocked!.....stacked?
Whatever
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Subject: | M.E.R.F.I. Ohio area pieters |
Anyone planning on flying to the Mid Eastern Reg. Fly-in at Urbana Ohio (Gr
imes Field)-this year?- I will probably head over on Saturday sept 10th
.- They are restoring a B-17 there and have a little museum with a B-25 a
nd A-26 and snj etc.- I hope a few of you can make it.- Mike C., Don E.
, Frank P.-Mr. Emo,-and others, if you want to stop off here (or somewh
ere along the route)-on the way and fly over as a group that would be fun
.- It is close enough that you could fly over and back in a day and sleep
well in your own bed that night.- It would be a good cap on a good flyin
g season, I don't think the boss will allow me to make Lee Bottom this year
, My honey do list just got bigger after returning from Brodhead.
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Let me know,
Shad
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Subject: | Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly |
I am blessed:).
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Subject: | Does anybody recognize this... |
Picture taken at Brodhead 2011.
Anyone recognize this ... gentleman?
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Subject: | Re: Does anybody recognize this... |
The hat says Markle. LOL!
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Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: A Great big Thank You To Kevin and Shelly |
Indeed you are.
kevinpurtee wrote:
> I am blessed:).
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Subject: | Re: Does anybody recognize this... |
I was wondering where my hat was. If anyone can figure out who that bafoon is...please
let me know!!!
Looks like I'm taking parts off Jack's....no, I won't go there.
Thank you Bill
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Subject: | Re: Does anybody recognize this... |
Oh, hey! I didn't even notice that there was an airplane in the background. It
was mostly obscured.
Nice to have the clothes match the plane.
BC
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Subject: | Re: Does anybody recognize this... |
Nevermind the airplane... YEAH baby... Yeah!
Bill Church wrote:
> Oh, hey! I didn't even notice that there was an airplane in the background. It
was mostly obscured.
> Nice to have the clothes match the plane.
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