Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 08/21/11


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:35 AM - Re: Sign Off (Jack)
     2. 09:38 AM - Trial Wing Fit (Gary Boothe)
     3. 09:48 AM - Re: Trial Wing Fit (Jack Phillips)
     4. 10:09 AM - Re: Trial Wing Fit (Jack)
     5. 10:16 AM - Re: Trial Wing Fit (V Groah)
     6. 11:18 AM - Re: Trial Wing Fit (airlion)
     7. 11:28 AM - Re: Trial Wing Fit (Gboothe5)
     8. 01:33 PM - Re: Sign Off (TriScout)
     9. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: Sign Off (Dan Yocum)
    10. 02:28 PM - prop progress (bender)
    11. 02:47 PM - Re: prop progress (Billy McCaskill)
    12. 02:53 PM - Re: prop progress (helspersew@aol.com)
    13. 03:09 PM - Re: prop progress (bender)
    14. 03:20 PM - Re: prop progress (Gboothe5)
    15. 05:09 PM - Re: Idea about front cockpit side door (echobravo4)
    16. 05:39 PM - Re: Trial Wing Fit (aerocarjake)
    17. 06:26 PM - Re: Sign Off (TriScout)
    18. 06:54 PM - Re: Re: Sign Off (Dan Yocum)
    19. 07:39 PM - Re: Sign Off (IT Girl)
    20. 07:52 PM - Re: prop progress (kevinpurtee)
    21. 08:00 PM - Re: Sign Off (kevinpurtee)
    22. 08:36 PM - Re: Trial Wing Fit (Jim Boyer)
    23. 09:27 PM - Re: Trial Wing Fit (Amsafetyc@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:35:19 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Sign Off
    Congratulations! I understand and share your feelings with still a good year to go before completing my ship. Be safe overseas! Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TriScout Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sign Off Well folks.. I,ve tinkered all I can. I taxi tested and tweaked her. Brakes hold up to about 1600 r's.. which is the way I like them. Not a drop of oil in the cowl after run up. 684hrs TT airframe.. A65-8 (this planes 4th engine). Annual Conditional Inp..signed off today by DAR. It feels good.. very easy to taxi...as if I've been sitting in it 20yrs. But even w/17,000 hrs under my belt, it sure would give me a warm fuzzy to find someone to take her around the patch before I haul off in it. Any takers? This is not your simple ol' 747 that I'm used to, but rather, an intimidating GN-1. After the sign off, I sat in silence.. staring at it over a crappacino... Oh well.. heading overseas Monday for a few weeks.. (around the world in 80 delays). I'll stare at it some more starting mid-Sept... Ler Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350085#350085 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf4687_149.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf4683_758.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf4684_158.jpg


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    Time: 09:38:44 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Trial Wing Fit
    All, While we had the wings in place, my son & I also did a preliminary W & B. Adding some guestimates for fabric and paint, and using a W & B form that Jack Phillips sent out a while back (his dimensions are very close to mine), I estimated empty wt to be about 660 lbs, and CG looks good! Note the handy sliding conduit "struts" that I borrowed from Mike & Vic Groah.they work great, and gave me the opportunity to exactly measure my strut lengths, as my hickory struts will have little, if any, adjustment. Cover starts on September 10th. It was a great weekend. Gary


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    Time: 09:48:10 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Trial Wing Fit
    Very Cool, Gary! You will LOVE covering it. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:36 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Trial Wing Fit All, While we had the wings in place, my son & I also did a preliminary W & B. Adding some guestimates for fabric and paint, and using a W & B form that Jack Phillips sent out a while back (his dimensions are very close to mine), I estimated empty wt to be about 660 lbs, and CG looks good! Note the handy sliding conduit "struts" that I borrowed from Mike & Vic Groah.they work great, and gave me the opportunity to exactly measure my strut lengths, as my hickory struts will have little, if any, adjustment. Cover starts on September 10th. It was a great weekend. Gary


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    Time: 10:09:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trial Wing Fit
    From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
    Gary looks great! Jack Textor Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:36 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > All, > > > > While we had the wings in place, my son & I also did a preliminary W & B. A dding some guestimates for fabric and paint, and using a W & B form that Jac k Phillips sent out a while back (his dimensions are very close to mine), I e stimated empty wt to be about 660 lbs, and CG looks good! Note the handy sli ding conduit =9Cstruts=9D that I borrowed from Mike & Vic Groah they work great, and gave me the opportunity to exactly measure my str ut lengths, as my hickory struts will have little, if any, adjustment. > > > > Cover starts on September 10th. It was a great weekend > > > > Gary > > <Trial Wing Fit, 8-20-11 015, s.jpg> > <Trial Wing Fit, 8-20-11 021, s.jpg>


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    Time: 10:16:14 AM PST US
    From: V Groah <vgroah@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Trial Wing Fit
    lookin good Gary=2C You are moving along great. Thanks for the photos. L ooks like a flyer for next spring. Vic From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Trial Wing Fit Very Cool=2C Gary! You will LOVE covering it. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake=2C Virginia From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Sunday=2C August 21=2C 2011 12:36 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Trial Wing Fit All=2C While we had the wings in place=2C my son & I also did a preliminary W & B. Adding some guestimates for fabric and paint=2C and using a W & B form tha t Jack Phillips sent out a while back (his dimensions are very close to min e)=2C I estimated empty wt to be about 660 lbs=2C and CG looks good! Note t he handy sliding conduit =93struts=94 that I borrowed from Mike & Vic Groah =85they work great=2C and gave me the opportunity to exactly measure my str ut lengths=2C as my hickory struts will have little=2C if any=2C adjustment . Cover starts on September 10th. It was a great weekend=85 Gary


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    Time: 11:18:42 AM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Trial Wing Fit
    looks great Gary. Cover it with clear so we can see all the good work. --- On Sun, 8/21/11, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Trial Wing Fit =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AVery Cool,=0A Gary !=C2 - You will LOVE covering it. =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AJack Phillips =0A=0ANX89 9JP =0A=0ASmith Mountain Lake, Virginia =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-pi etenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe =0ASent: Sunday, August 21, 2011=0A12:36 PM =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Trial=0AWing Fit =0A=0A=0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AAll, =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AWhile=0Awe had the wings in place, my son & I also did a preliminary W & B.=0AAdding some guestimates for fabric and paint, and u sing a W & B form that=0AJack Phillips sent out a while back (his dimension s are very close to mine), I=0Aestimated empty wt to be about 660 lbs, and CG looks good! Note the handy=0Asliding conduit =9Cstruts=9D th at I borrowed from Mike & Vic=0AGroahthey work great, and gave me the opportunity to exactly measure my=0Astrut lengths, as my hickory struts will have little, if any, adjustment. =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0ACover=0Astarts on September 10th. It was a great weekend =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AGary =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 11:28:13 AM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Trial Wing Fit
    Ha! That=99s what my son saidthe wonders of Photoshop. Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Trial Wing Fit looks great Gary. Cover it with clear so we can see all the good work. --- On Sun, 8/21/11, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Trial Wing Fit Very Cool, Gary ! You will LOVE covering it. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:36 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Trial Wing Fit All, While we had the wings in place, my son & I also did a preliminary W & B. Adding some guestimates for fabric and paint, and using a W & B form that Jack Phillips sent out a while back (his dimensions are very close to mine), I estimated empty wt to be about 660 lbs, and CG looks good! Note the handy sliding conduit =9Cstruts=9D that I borrowed from Mike & Vic Groahthey work great, and gave me the opportunity to exactly measure my strut lengths, as my hickory struts will have little, if any, adjustment. Cover starts on September 10th. It was a great weekend Gary http://www.matronics="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http:/========== =============


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    Time: 01:33:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sign Off
    From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber@yahoo.com>
    Thanks all.. Just got back from the aerodrome, where I met Kevin, his son, and Purdee wife. Some good Piet folk indeed. Kevin was kind enough to taxi test my machine, confirming my thoughts that it had a good feel to her. I will take his advice and gap seal the ailerons before I fly it. I was already planning to do that prior to flying. Thanks again Kevin and family for stopping by. Looking forward to next time we meet up.. yeah, would like to make brodhead.. that would be nice... Ler Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350136#350136


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    Time: 02:12:38 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Sign Off
    Blue painters tape works just fine for short *and* long term use. I put some on mine last year at Brodhead and haven't taken it off, yet. On 08/21/2011 03:30 PM, TriScout wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "TriScout"<apfelcyber@yahoo.com> > > Thanks all.. > > Just got back from the aerodrome, where I met Kevin, his son, and Purdee wife. Some good Piet folk indeed. Kevin was kind enough to taxi test my machine, confirming my thoughts that it had a good feel to her. I will take his advice and gap seal the ailerons before I fly it. I was already planning to do that prior to flying. > > Thanks again Kevin and family for stopping by. Looking forward to next time we meet up.. > > yeah, would like to make brodhead.. that would be nice... > > Ler > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350136#350136 > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 02:28:32 PM PST US
    Subject: prop progress
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    Well .. work kept me away from home the last month but i hit the prop hard the last day or so... I put some stain on it and look forward to the clear....but heres the idea Balancing was pretty easy... can't wait to see it run Dan H ... dude.... i can't thank you enough for putting the info together...i'm looking forward the next one already jeff faith Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350140#350140 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop2_106.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop_199.jpg


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    Time: 02:47:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: prop progress
    From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
    WOW! That is definitely the most beautiful prop I've ever seen! Absolutely gorgeous! What kind of wood is that? -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350141#350141


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    Time: 02:53:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: prop progress
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Jeff, Let me be the first to congratulate you. It looks absolutely AWESOME!!!! V ery cool. After Cool Gary is done with the industrial fish scale you shoul d see how she pulls. Way to go. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. -----Original Message----- From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:28 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop progress > Well .. work kept me away from home the last month but i hit the prop hard the ast day or so... put some stain on it and look forward to the clear....but heres the idea Balancing was pretty easy... can't wait to see it run Dan H ... dude.... i can't thank you enough for putting the info together.. .i'm ooking forward the next one already eff faith ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350140#350140 ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop2_106.jpg ttp://forums.matronics.com//files/prop_199.jpg -======================== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 03:09:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: prop progress
    From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
    Thanks guys... its ash Billy... i got the wood from the same place dan did... its a 76x42 and 3 inch thick hub i copied a camel prop shape that i found on woodenpropeller.com not as swoopy as dans but i dig it i'm looking forward to making it shiny and i'm thinking about painting the tips like the old fabric covered tips.. no fabric, just paint this is the coolest thing i've made in the piet so far jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350143#350143


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    Time: 03:20:02 PM PST US
    From: "Gboothe5" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: prop progress
    Or.as Axel named us, I am "Gary From Cool." Gary Bell is, "Cool Gary." Somehow, I think I got short end of the stick.I just don't know.maybe that's why I'm not "Cool Gary".. Jeff - that is absolutely beautiful!! Let me know when you are ready to run your engine, and I'll send the scales (if you want to do a pull test). I need to re-pitch my prop and cover the fuselage before I will be ready for another run. You're welcome to the scales.. Gary From Cool From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop progress Jeff, Let me be the first to congratulate you. It looks absolutely AWESOME!!!! Very cool. After Cool Gary is done with the industrial fish scale you should see how she pulls. Way to go. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. -----Original Message----- From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 4:28 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop progress Well .. work kept me away from home the last month but i hit the prop hard the last day or so... I put some stain on it and look forward to the clear....but heres the idea Balancing was pretty easy... can't wait to see it run Dan H ... dude.... i can't thank you enough for putting the info together...i'm looking forward the next one already jeff faith Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350140#350140 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop2_106.jpg <http://forums.matronics.com/files/prop2_106.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop_199.jpg <http://forums.matronics.com/files/prop_199.jpg> " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:09:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Idea about front cockpit side door
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    well, here is another solution.... -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350150#350150 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_low_wing_101.jpg


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    Time: 05:39:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trial Wing Fit
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Must be an exciting day...... I'm happy for your progress........... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350151#350151


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    Time: 06:26:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sign Off
    From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber@yahoo.com>
    I was thinking a rocket science approach like maybe leather..like the Bucker Jungmeister would look really nice. Don't have a pic, but I believe they do leather on top and bottom, then lace it up really nice. I'll try the tape thing...I just might settle for that, so long as it works. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350153#350153


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    Time: 06:54:16 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Sign Off
    The blue painters tape is a "temporary" fix, don't get me wrong. Just don't let lack pretty leather gap seals delay your first flight. -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." On Aug 21, 2011, at 8:23 PM, "TriScout" <apfelcyber@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I was thinking a rocket science approach like maybe leather..like the Bucker Jungmeister would look really nice. Don't have a pic, but I believe they do leather on top and bottom, then lace it up really nice. I'll try the tape thing...I just might settle for that, so long as it works. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350153#350153 > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 07:39:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sign Off
    From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
    Nice visit with Larry, very pretty ship! Here is a pic of the boys :) -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of &quot;Axel&quot; NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350160#350160 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2706_267.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2706_214.jpg


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    Time: 07:52:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: prop progress
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Gary from Cool - It was an opportunity to jack with you. How could I not? Wish I could visit and help you cover. Looks spectacular. Love, Axel do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350161#350161


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    Time: 08:00:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sign Off
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Nice plane! Really hoping Larry will let me fly it once the gaps are sealed. The plane is a GN-1 and the fuselage is shorter then mine. Don't know enough about the differences to know if that's standard GN-1 per-the-plans. Anyway, the difference is significant in terms of how I fit in the cockpit. I'm a bit taller than Larry and considerably fatter. He fits fine. do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350164#350164


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    Time: 08:36:38 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Trial Wing Fit
    Hi Gary, We are still in SD and wishing we could see your Piet up close; it is looking very good. Congratulations. Jim and Arlene


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    Time: 09:27:11 PM PST US
    From: "Amsafetyc@aol.com" <Amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Trial Wing Fit
    Looking good Gary, really nice you must be excited John Do not archive Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 16:39:41 GMT+00:00 Subject: Pietenpol-List: Trial Wing Fit All, While we had the wings in place, my son & I also did a preliminary W & B. Adding some guestimates for fabric and paint, and using a W & B form that Jack Phillips sent out a while back (his dimensions are very close to mine), I estimated empty wt to be about 660 lbs, and CG looks good! Note the handy sliding conduit "struts" that I borrowed from Mike & Vic Groah.they work great, and gave me the opportunity to exactly measure my strut lengths, as my hickory struts will have little, if any, adjustment. Cover starts on September 10th. It was a great weekend. Gary




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