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1. 02:09 AM - ANy Pietenpols in the Detroit area? (jarheadpilot82)
2. 04:28 AM - Re: Re: Sign Off (Jack)
3. 05:27 AM - Re: Idea about front cockpit side door (giacummo)
4. 05:28 AM - Re: Re: prop progress (Gboothe5)
5. 06:23 AM - Re: Sign Off (TOM STINEMETZE)
6. 06:45 AM - Re: Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts (amsafetyc@aol.com)
7. 06:47 AM - Any one here (amsafetyc@aol.com)
8. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: questions from a new guy... (amsafetyc@aol.com)
9. 06:54 AM - Re: Idea about front cockpit side door (jarheadpilot82)
10. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Sign Off (Charles Campbell)
11. 07:02 AM - Re: questions from a new guy... (jarheadpilot82)
12. 07:15 AM - Re: questions from a new guy... (dgaldrich)
13. 07:32 AM - Re: Hotel Key Cards (dgaldrich)
14. 08:10 AM - Fuselage pass through sealing (TOM STINEMETZE)
15. 08:45 AM - Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (Bill Church)
16. 08:48 AM - Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (Bill Church)
17. 08:59 AM - Re: Trial Wing Fit (caldwrl)
18. 09:06 AM - Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (TOM STINEMETZE)
19. 09:22 AM - Re: Re: Trial Wing Fit (gboothe5@comcast.net)
20. 10:18 AM - Re: Idea about front cockpit side door (giacummo)
21. 10:29 AM - Re: Sign Off (TriScout)
22. 11:03 AM - Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (kevinpurtee)
23. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: Idea about front cockpit side door (Doug Dever)
24. 11:24 AM - Re: Sign Off (TriScout)
25. 11:24 AM - Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (TOM STINEMETZE)
26. 12:01 PM - Re: prop progress (bender)
27. 12:50 PM - Re: questions from a new guy... (Billy McCaskill)
28. 12:59 PM - Re: Re: questions from a new guy... (Amsafetyc@aol.com)
29. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: prop progress (helspersew@aol.com)
30. 01:32 PM - Re: prop progress (bender)
31. 02:17 PM - Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (Bill Church)
32. 02:51 PM - Re: questions from a new guy... (Jerry Dotson)
33. 04:43 PM - Re: Re: questions from a new guy... (helspersew@aol.com)
34. 04:54 PM - Re: questions from a new guy... (echobravo4)
35. 04:59 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (helspersew@aol.com)
36. 05:12 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (Jack Phillips)
37. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (Jack)
38. 05:49 PM - Re: Re: questions from a new guy... (Amsafetyc@gmail.com)
39. 07:00 PM - Re: Re: questions from a new guy... (Dan Yocum)
40. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing (shad bell)
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| Subject: | ANy Pietenpols in the Detroit area? |
I will be on a layover in Detroit this next Wednesday afternoon through Thursday
afternoon, and I wondered if there were any Piets in that area.
If you are within a short drive of Detroit, I would like to meet you and take a
look at your Piet, if your time would allow.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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Shelley the link is down, could you attach photos, thanks!
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of IT Girl
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
Nice visit with Larry, very pretty ship! Here is a pic of the boys :)
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: Idea about front cockpit side door |
How different it look.
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Mario Giacummo
http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
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| Subject: | Re: prop progress |
Wish you could, too. It's going to be a 9-day marathon, as my wife will be
on a quilting retreat for the whole week!!
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: prop progress
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Gary from Cool - It was an opportunity to jack with you. How could I not?
Wish I could visit and help you cover. Looks spectacular.
Love,
Axel
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Ler:
Awesome paint scheme, Captain dude! I considered the "hawk" scheme myself
but thought a Piet could not pull it off since there were no wheel spats
to put the claws on. Got to admit that it works on yours.
Stinemetze
N328X (SpaceShip0.1)
>>> "TriScout" <apfelcyber@yahoo.com> 8/20/2011 8:11 PM >>>
Well folks.. I,ve tinkered all I can. I taxi tested and tweaked her.
Brakes hold up to about 1600 r's.. which is the way I like them. Not a
drop of oil in the cowl after run up. 684hrs TT airframe.. A65-8 (this
planes 4th engine). Annual Conditional Inp..signed off today by DAR.
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| Subject: | Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts |
Crank was sent out for magnaflux so I believe sludge tubes were knocked out
and cleaned during the process. I got aluminium push rods and 1 oil pump
gear and one steel gear. So I am planning those replacments along with the
rod bolts and nuts wrist pin plugs crank gear bolt and lock and the bearings
and rings as consumables. And a full engine gasket and seal kit
John
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From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>
Sent: Sat, Jul 2, 2011 20:37:16 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: lycoming 0235 C1B experts
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
John,
I just built an O-235 C2C which is very close to being exactly the same.
There are some AD's that need to be tended to oil pump gears,push rod
material, carb venturi and float material, maybe some more. I remember the
pushrods and float being reading the AD's closely to determine if it
applied. The oil pump is very clear in that it requires 2 hardened steel
gears. My log book lied. It was written that the oil pump AD had been done
and it had not. Make sure you knock the sludge tubes out of the crank and
clean the krud out. If you are very careful you can reuse them as it is
experimental. I bought an oak dowel the same OD as the sludge tube and
sanded it to fit. Measure them to make sure they are still a press fit
before you reuse them. If they are not removed and cleaned odds are very
great you will have bearing problems as the oil distribution goes around the
OD of those tubes. They make like a centrifuge when the engine is running.
Some of the krud the filters miss is cap!
tured within that cavity. That was not Lycoming's intent. They figured out
how to make the crank without those things in later years. I can really find
fault though as my crank was in great condition after 2050 hours.
I found Dart Aircraft Parts in Waco, Tx the most reasonable. A guy named
Steve was nice to deal with. Note I didn't say cheap. Piston rings were $110
per cylinder !
The big picture was intentional as I wanted you to see what collects in
there.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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In Monterey mexico tonight? just arrived and finished dinner
John
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| Subject: | Re: questions from a new guy... |
In our cultural and socio anthropological network we strive to both be a
part of a culture and yet be individually distinguished and recognized. We
mostly do that by appearence first then by persona. Animals do it by marking
scent and color. So how do I make my Piet reflect me? Color design
customizations and a variety of other methods dependant upon the builders
creativity mechanical aptitude and skill level. If we were really interested
in same same plans built we should all buy spam cans and be done with it
Just my opinion
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From: Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 14:41:58 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: questions from a new guy...
Mike,
I know Prunedale! ...and I think "tinkering" is the perfect word!
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MPB
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: questions from a new guy...
Its funny. You always hear that advise from experienced builders "stick to
the plans". The RV crowd says it, boats designs, etc. Yet we can never
seem to avoid "tinkering" with the design (I'll refrain from saying
"improving"). I guess its part of what draws someone to building, but I
appreciate the advise. Like so many discussions the airfoil one seems to
have strong opinions on both sides that will warant some more research.
Thanks again,
Mike
BTW- Gary asked where I am located and I noticed he is from Cool, CA. I
live in Prunedale near Monterey Bay. I have family in Placerville. Small
world...
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| Subject: | Re: Idea about front cockpit side door |
Just one more option for a step. I saw this on a Grega, and I don't know if that
is an acceptable option for a step, or it creates stress on the gear like a
weld bar would.
Not the look that I want, even if it is an acceptable option, but I thought I would
post it anyway. Your thoughts?
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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My computer couldn't find either pic. How about trying again!
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From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sign Off
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> Nice visit with Larry, very pretty ship! Here is a pic of the boys :)
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| Subject: | Re: questions from a new guy... |
1. What is your favorite color? (A little touchy-feely, I know, but you certainly
would not want to paint it your LEAST favorite color.)
2. Is there an airplane that you have seen before that you would like to make the
Piet look similar to? There are tons of examples of Piets in Warbird colors,
Piets painted like Golden Age airplanes that have been seen in museums, etc.
3. What do you think looks like you? Another touchy-feely question, but your car,
motorcycle, boat, AND airplane are a reflection of you. Otherwise we would
all drive black or white cars.
Just a couple of thoughts. I already have my paint scheme designed, and I am just
startin on the wing ribs. But I know what I want to the airplane to look like
and what I want it to reflect of me.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Re: questions from a new guy... |
Just paint it yellow and black like everybody else and be done with it. :D :D
:D
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Hotel Key Cards |
Other sources besides Snopes agree with the fact that hotel key cards are NOT a
security issue. I spend a LOT of time in hotels of various flavors and NONE
encode any personal information on the cards. Ran into one of the IT guys from
Hyatt at the bar one night and asked him what safeguards they use. 1. The
key card machine is a stand alone, dedicated, separate machine from the billing
one in some properties. 2. The card writer they buy is capable of writing
only one track of data. 3. On properties with any kind of integration, the software
"firewalls" the personal information. 4. On some properties, personal
data isn't even kept on site so the local computer data base doesn't have direct
access to it.
Dave
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| Subject: | Fuselage pass through sealing |
Fellow aircraft nuts:
There are a lot of places where cables or other devices must pass through
the cloth covering on a Piet. Never before having covered anything I am
curious how these pass throughs are dealt with, particularly if the
objects passing through are flexible such as cables or rubber brake lines.
Any photos would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom Stinemetze
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage pass through sealing |
Tom,
As is often the case, it's Tony Bingelis to the rescue (see attached article).
I've gotta say that having access to the entire library of back issues of Sport
Aviation, with "search" functions is practically worth the annual EAA membership
fees. That only took about three minutes to find.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage pass through sealing |
Tom,
As is often the case, it's Tony Bingelis to the rescue (see attached article).
I've gotta say that having access to the entire library of back issues of Sport
Aviation, with "search" functions is practically worth the annual EAA membership
fees. That only took about three minutes to find.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Trial Wing Fit |
Hey Gary,
Wow, looks great. By my estimate, you are about six months ahead of me. I am
completing the left wing this week, adding the safety shaft to the Corvair crank,
and prepping it for the college at Barnwell in the fall. The right wing
mod comes next, then I can fit them just as you are doing now. Hopefully I will
be covering by late winter or early spring.
Robert (in hot-as -hell Holly Lake)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage pass through sealing |
Bill:
Thanks for the article. I am less concerned about making devices to pass
through a solid object like the firewall than I am passing through a cloth
surface. Nevertheless, this will be a useful thing to have around.
Tom
>>> "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca> 8/22/2011 10:43 AM >>>
Tom,
As is often the case, it's Tony Bingelis to the rescue (see attached
article).
I've gotta say that having access to the entire library of back issues of
Sport Aviation, with "search" functions is practically worth the annual
EAA membership fees. That only took about three minutes to find.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Trial Wing Fit |
Yeah, hot as Hell is right! We've been watching...
You really are making progress, though, and I'm glad you are going to Barnwell...
Gary
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Trial Wing Fit
Sent: Aug 22, 2011 8:57 AM
Hey Gary,
Wow, looks great. By my estimate, you are about six months ahead of me. I am
completing the left wing this week, adding the safety shaft to the Corvair crank,
and prepping it for the college at Barnwell in the fall. The right wing
mod comes next, then I can fit them just as you are doing now. Hopefully I will
be covering by late winter or early spring.
Robert (in hot-as -hell Holly Lake)
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| Subject: | Re: Idea about front cockpit side door |
folowing with the joint point, may be this could be the solution, not number by
the moment, but it looks better than simple bolts, and have the adventage that
it could be possible to reduce the bolts diameter.
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Mario Giacummo
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Thanks about the paint scheme Stinemetze.. I like it as well, but I cannot claim
that idea. I bought the airframe a yr ago on Barnstormers. I just had to toss
a motor and corkscrew upon it, then assemble it at the hangar for instant gratification.
Even though that sounds simple, the ol' learning curve was literally
climbing like a mountain goat from all the good advice shared ..as well as
studying maintenance guides, etc..
After running into Kevin(and family), I'm beginning to see what you guys mean about
the whole Piet/GN-1 community. It would be kinda neat to try the whole Brodhead
thing next yr in it.
Sadly, I'm already in CHS hauling off to Germany now.. Will be home for 2 wks starting
Sept 12th. Will get it airborne then...whether it be Kevin, myself, etc..
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage pass through sealing |
Tom - You use a soldering iron to burn the hole in the fabric then you run the
line or whatever through the hole. The hole is basically self-cauterizing. If
you're worried about the aesthetics you can use a leather patch, a rubber grommet
or even a hard plastic doo-dad to give a more finished look.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Idea about front cockpit side door |
Why re invent the wheel.- Just buy Keri Ann's plans.- Proven design.-
https://sites.google.com/site/pietenpolplanpackages/pietenpol-plan-package
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attempted upload of Kevin taxiing
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage pass through sealing |
Thanks Kevin. That's what I needed.
Tom
>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 8/22/2011 1:00 PM >>>
Tom - You use a soldering iron to burn the hole in the fabric then you run
the line or whatever through the hole. The hole is basically self-cauteriz
ing. If you're worried about the aesthetics you can use a leather patch,
a rubber grommet or even a hard plastic doo-dad to give a more finished
look.
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first coat of spar varnish really made it shine..
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But doesn't Dan Helsper have the black and yellow scheme copyrighted and trademarked?
Anyone else using this would be in violation! Note: I did not say subject
to being violated, you are all on your own for that...
;)
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Dan is the Black and yellow German
John
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Veeeery pretty. Did you burn those numbers in?
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Puryear, TN
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first coat of spar varnish really made it shine..
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Hey Dan...
i used metal punches...you don't have to hit too hard
all the props i've seen look like they were punched too
easy to do
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Doh!
I didn't notice that you clearly asked about passing through the cloth covering.
Sorry.
I'll pay more attention next time.
Bill C.
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John I have never been known for any expertise in decorating but if you want your
Piet to be an expression of you I the you ought to consider the trim. I tried
my best on this so take it for what it is. It is a FlyBaby cowl but with your
talents I'm sure you could make it look much better than I did.
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59 Daniel Johnson Rd
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Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
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Dave,
Just for your information, it is black and yellow, not yellow and black. :O
).......but don't tell Rambo...............or little Will..................
..
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Puryear, TN
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Just paint it yellow and black like everybody else and be done with it. :
D :D
D
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are you asking what color to paint your plane? :D
with all the concern about "manufacturing" in your
hanger do you think you can paint in there?!
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Hi Tom,
I never liked the glued-on leather patches that I saw at Brodhead (and othe
r places). Inevitably the leather patch would start to peel off and curl up
at the edges. Looked really ratty to me. So what I did is come up with a r
eal innovative idea. I blatantly and unapologetically copied what I had see
n someone else do. Glue a patch of leather on to the fabric, and then cover
it with another patch of ceconite. Really works slick and will never look
ratty. I think I copied this from Larry Williams?? Maybe?? Can't remember n
ow.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
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Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:25 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Thanks Kevin. That's what I needed.
Tom
>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 8/22/2011 1:00 PM >>>
Tom - You use a soldering iron to burn the hole in the fabric then you run
the line or whatever through the hole. The hole is basically self-cauteriz
ing. If you're worried about the aesthetics you can use a leather patch, a
rubber grommet or even a hard plastic doo-dad to give a more finished look
.
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I did much the same thing, but used a piece of aluminum with a slot in it
for the cable, then sandwiched it between the fabric and a pinked-edge
fabric patch, as seen below:
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Hi Tom,
I never liked the glued-on leather patches that I saw at Brodhead (and other
places). Inevitably the leather patch would start to peel off and curl up at
the edges. Looked really ratty to me. So what I did is come up with a real
innovative idea. I blatantly and unapologetically copied what I had seen
someone else do. Glue a patch of leather on to the fabric, and then cover it
with another patch of ceconite. Really works slick and will never look
ratty. I think I copied this from Larry Williams?? Maybe?? Can't remember
now.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
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From: TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:25 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Thanks Kevin. That's what I needed.
Tom
>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 8/22/2011 1:00 PM >>>
Tom - You use a soldering iron to burn the hole in the fabric then you run
the line or whatever through the hole. The hole is basically
self-cauterizing. If you're worried about the aesthetics you can use a
leather patch, a rubber grommet or even a hard plastic doo-dad to give a
more finished look.
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I like both ideas, thanks!
Jack
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I did much the same thing, but used a piece of aluminum with a slot in it
for the cable, then sandwiched it between the fabric and a pinked-edge
fabric patch, as seen below:
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Hi Tom,
I never liked the glued-on leather patches that I saw at Brodhead (and other
places). Inevitably the leather patch would start to peel off and curl up at
the edges. Looked really ratty to me. So what I did is come up with a real
innovative idea. I blatantly and unapologetically copied what I had seen
someone else do. Glue a patch of leather on to the fabric, and then cover it
with another patch of ceconite. Really works slick and will never look
ratty. I think I copied this from Larry Williams?? Maybe?? Can't remember
now.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
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Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:25 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Thanks Kevin. That's what I needed.
Tom
>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 8/22/2011 1:00 PM >>>
Tom - You use a soldering iron to burn the hole in the fabric then you run
the line or whatever through the hole. The hole is basically
self-cauterizing. If you're worried about the aesthetics you can use a
leather patch, a rubber grommet or even a hard plastic doo-dad to give a
more finished look.
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That would be looked upon by a lesser man as an impossibility but for me , I
have a plan!
For which you will have to witness for yourself sir
I would not could not in a barn. I would not could not on a farm, I would
not couldn't with a stranger I would not could not in my hangar. I would not
could here or there I would not could not anywhere. I would not could not,
Sam I am
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: questions from a new guy...
are you asking what color to paint your plane? :D
with all the concern about "manufacturing" in your
hanger do you think you can paint in there?!
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You did NOT do that! Please say it isn't so! I've seen your craftsmanship and
that is the work of a hack... saw... after someone said, "Hold my beer and WATCH
THIS!"
:-o
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Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:48 PM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
> John I have never been known for any expertise in decorating but if you want
your Piet to be an expression of you I the you ought to consider the trim. I tried
my best on this so take it for what it is. It is a FlyBaby cowl but with
your talents I'm sure you could make it look much better than I did.
>
>
> please do not archive
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
> using Lycoming O-235
>
>
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350263#350263
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One more trick is to sew the leather to the Dacron doyley with rib stitch c
hord or simmilar(spelling), then glue the dacron (with the leather sewed to
it) patch to the fabric on the fuselage. It is sewed on so it won't come o
ff, and the dacron sticks to dacron very well.- There are 100 ways to ski
n that cat, I have seen 1/16" ply sandwiched in there as well.
-
Shad
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Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
I like both ideas, thanks!
Jack
DSM
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
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I did much the same thing, but used a piece of aluminum with a slot in it f
or the cable, then sandwiched it between the fabric and a pinked-edge fabri
c patch, as seen below:
-
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Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
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Hi Tom,
-
I never liked the glued-on leather patches that I saw at Brodhead (and othe
r places). Inevitably the leather patch would start to peel off and curl up
at the edges. Looked really ratty to me. So what I did is come up with a r
eal innovative idea. I-blatantly and unapologetically copied what I had s
een someone else do. Glue a patch of leather on to the fabric, and then cov
er it with another patch of ceconite. Really works-slick and will never l
ook ratty. I think I copied this from Larry Williams?? Maybe?? Can ' t reme
mber now.
-
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
-
-----Original Message-----
From: TOM STINEMETZE < TOMS@mcpcity.com >
Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 1:25 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage pass through sealing
Thanks Kevin.- That ' s what I needed.
-
Tom
>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 8/22/2011 1:00 PM >>>
Tom - You use a soldering iron to burn the hole in the fabric then you run
the line or whatever through the hole.- The hole is basically self-cauter
izing.- If you ' re worried about the aesthetics you can use a leather pa
tch, a rubber grommet or even a hard plastic doo-dad to give a more finishe
d look.
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