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1. 03:12 AM - Re: first flight (Jerry Dotson)
2. 03:29 AM - Re: first flight (Jack)
3. 05:19 AM - Re: first flight (aerocarjake)
4. 05:22 AM - Re: first flight (Dan Yocum)
5. 06:00 AM - Re: Re: Tail Brace Wire Size (John Kuhfahl)
6. 06:04 AM - Re: first flight (Scott Knowlton)
7. 06:09 AM - Re: Tail Brace Wire Size (John Kuhfahl)
8. 06:18 AM - Re: first flight (Ryan M)
9. 06:46 AM - Re: first flight (Jack Phillips)
10. 06:46 AM - Re: first flight (Wayne Bressler)
11. 07:06 AM - Re: first flight (helspersew@aol.com)
12. 07:09 AM - Re: First Flight (Woodflier@aol.com)
13. 07:27 AM - Re: first flight (Jim Markle)
14. 08:08 AM - Re: first flight (womenfly2)
15. 09:02 AM - Re: first flight (Pieti Lowell)
16. 04:29 PM - Re: questions from a new guy... (echobravo4)
17. 05:38 PM - Tail Brace Wires--Again (John Kuhfahl)
18. 06:15 PM - Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (Richard Schreiber)
19. 07:04 PM - Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (Hans Van Der Voort)
20. 07:04 PM - Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (Greg Cardinal)
21. 07:25 PM - Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Don,
Congratulations.I know you are filled with pride. I would be. I sure hate you had
to take the wing off it. The setting for the picture is just perfect for a
Piet. Looks like it is straight from1933.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
now covering
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop
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Congratulations to Don and Barry! Be safe guys.
Jack
DSM
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald Lane
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 10:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight
Pietenpol N110DL made her first flight yesterday 8/25/11, at Bayboro NC,
piloted by Barry Triplett. He found the airplane to handle well and said it
flies like a Cub. One quick flight this morning and then we had to take off
the wings again and move her to safer ground before Irene gets here. Got
everything secured just before the rain started. Don Lane
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
That's just fantastic....! Congratulations................
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Fantastic news! Great picture, too!
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Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:07 PM, "Donald Lane" <dslane@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Pietenpol N110DL made her first flight yesterday 8/25/11, at Bayboro NC, p
iloted by Barry Triplett. He found the airplane to handle well and said it f
lies like a Cub. One quick flight this morning and then we had to take off t
he wings again and move her to safer ground before Irene gets here. Got eve
rything secured just before the rain started. Don Lane
> <Pietenpol First Flight 031a.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wire Size |
Gary,Jerry, all,I have lots of 1/8 stuff too and was going to use 1/8 for
that reason. My plans show 14 GA. "Hard Wire." and 325 SF Turnbuckle.Any
other thoughts on this?
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Absolutely beautiful pietenpol. Congrats!
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Lane <dslane@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight
Pietenpol N110DL made her first flight yesterday 8/25/11, at Bayboro NC, piloted
by Barry Triplett. He found the airplane to handle well and said it flies like
a Cub. One quick flight this morning and then we had to take off the wings
again and move her to safer ground before Irene gets here. Got everything secured
just before the rain started. Don Lane
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wire Size |
Thanks Ben...
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote:
> I used 3/32, I think that is what the plans call for. Probably saved a
> small insignificant amount of weight that I compensated for by adding a
> Maule tailwheel....
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> On 8/26/2011 6:18 PM, John Kuhfahl wrote:
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> What size tail brace wires are you using? I've seen 1/16th an 1/8th
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Congrats Don! N1=0A=0AAA=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: D
onald Lane <dslane@embarqmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol <pietenpol-list@matronic
s.com>=0ASent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:07 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List:
first flight=0A=0A=0A =0APietenpol N110DL made her first flight yesterday
=0A8/25/11, at Bayboro NC, piloted by Barry Triplett.- He found the airpl
ane =0Ato handle well and said it flies like a Cub. One quick flight this m
orning and =0Athen we had to take off the wings again and move her to safer
ground before =0AIrene gets here.- Got everything secured just before th
e rain =0Astarted.- Don =0ALane
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Way to go, Don! You've got a nice looking airplane. Glad the flight went
well, and I hope Irene is kind to you. I was in Florida earlier this week
when Irene blew by and there wasn't much wind or rain, but you're a lot
closer to the eye than I was then. Here is Raleigh, we've had rain and some
20 - 30 knot winds but nothing too bad.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald Lane
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight
Pietenpol N110DL made her first flight yesterday 8/25/11, at Bayboro NC,
piloted by Barry Triplett. He found the airplane to handle well and said it
flies like a Cub. One quick flight this morning and then we had to take off
the wings again and move her to safer ground before Irene gets here. Got
everything secured just before the rain started. Don Lane
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Now THAT is a beautiful flying machine! Very well done.
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:07 PM, "Donald Lane" <dslane@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Pietenpol N110DL made her first flight yesterday 8/25/11, at Bayboro NC, p
iloted by Barry Triplett. He found the airplane to handle well and said it f
lies like a Cub. One quick flight this morning and then we had to take off t
he wings again and move her to safer ground before Irene gets here. Got eve
rything secured just before the rain started. Don Lane
> <Pietenpol First Flight 031a.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Wow Don,
Congratulations, and your airplane is absolutely gorgeous!!! You should be
very proud.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Lane <dslane@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2011 9:10 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight
Pietenpol N110DL made her first flight yesterday 8/25/11, at Bayboro NC, pi
loted by Barry Triplett. He found the airplane to handle well and said it
flies like a Cub. One quick flight this morning and then we had to take off
the wings again and move her to safer ground before Irene gets here. Got
everything secured just before the rain started. Don Lane
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Time: 08:09:10 PM PST US
From: "Donald Lane" <dslane@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight
Pietenpol N110DL made her first flight yesterday 8/25/11, at Bayboro NC,
piloted by Barry Triplett. He found the airplane to handle well and
said it flies like a Cub. One quick flight this morning and then we had
to take off the wings again and move her to safer ground before Irene
gets here. Got everything secured just before the rain started. Don
Lane
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Congratulations, Don! That first flight is a real thrill. Hope you don't
sustain any damage during Irene but it looks like it's landing close to
Morehead City this morning. We were at Emerald Isle earlier this month - can't
imagine what the beach is like there right now. Best of luck.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
I've seen only a few Air Campers that, although ALL wonderful and magical in their
own way, REALLY fit my personal idea of a "true" Pietenpol.
For all the reasons Greg C mentioned...and more.
This is one such Pietenpol.
This goes on the wall in my shop.
Jim Markle
Pryor, OK
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Lane
Sent: Aug 26, 2011 10:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight
Pietenpol N110DL made her first flight yesterday
8/25/11, at Bayboro NC, piloted by Barry Triplett. He found the airplane
to handle well and said it flies like a Cub. One quick flight this morning and
then we had to take off the wings again and move her to safer ground before
Irene gets here. Got everything secured just before the rain
started. Don
Lane
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Wow! Very, very nice classic Pietenpol, love the colors ....they all should be
built like that.
... sooooooo, where is the YouTube video?
Congratulations and many more.
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Congrats Don & Barry for your very memorable Day 8/15/2011'
You could get great practice with crosswind landings with Irene.
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: questions from a new guy... |
John-
I just remembered that while i was waiting for my first delivery of wood
i started a 3D model of a Piet to pass the time-
It's not complete (due to working on the REAL one) but i think there is
enough there to get the paintjob across!
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Tail Brace Wires--Again |
I am still not sure what to do with my Tail Brace Wires. My plans show 14
GA. "Hard Wire." and 325 SF Turnbuckle.I heard from a few guys, but anyone
else? At this point I am going to use 1/8 in cable and fittings as that is
what I have been able to procure. A little heavy and draggy, but I like low
and slow. Any more thoughts?
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John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| Subject: | Tail Brace Wires--Again |
I made my first set out of 3/32" cable and turnbuckles. I didn't like the way tey
looked...too big and clunky. Once I saw tail brace wires made out of 1/16"
cables and turnbuckles, I decided to go that route. Its lighter and much nicer
looking. 1/8" cable as well as 3/32" is overkill. There are many Piets out there
with 1/16" cable flying safely.
Rick Schreiber
----- Original Message -----
From: John Kuhfahl
Sent: 8/27/2011 7:39:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
I am still not sure what to do with my Tail Brace Wires. My plans show 14 GA. "Hard
Wire." and 325 SF Turnbuckle.I heard from a few guys, but anyone else? At
this point I am going to use 1/8 in cable and fittings as that is what I have
been able to procure. A little heavy and draggy, but I like low and slow.
Any more thoughts?
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John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
I have 1/16 cable for tail bracing
Rated for 480 Lbs, figure the wood will break long for the Cable will
Hans
NX15KV
-----Original Message-----
From: John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 7:38 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
I am still not sure what to do with my Tail Brace Wires. My plans show 14 G
A. "Hard Wire." and 325 SF Turnbuckle.I heard from a few guys, but anyone e
lse? At this point I am going to use 1/8 in cable and fittings as that is
what I have been able to procure. A little heavy and draggy, but I like lo
w and slow. Any more thoughts?
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John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
3/32 cable and -16 turnbuckles work well. Using swaged MS cable fittings
instead of thimbles and Nicopress sleeves will give a nicely finished
look.
14 ga. hard wire has a tensile strength of approximately 700 - 750
pounds.
1/16" cable has a tensile strength of 480 pounds.
As Rick Schreiber mentioned, there are many Piets flying successfully
with 1/16" cable. Keep in mind the tail is constantly being battered
about in the propwash.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: John Kuhfahl
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
I am still not sure what to do with my Tail Brace Wires. My plans show
14 GA. "Hard Wire." and 325 SF Turnbuckle.I heard from a few guys, but
anyone else? At this point I am going to use 1/8 in cable and fittings
as that is what I have been able to procure. A little heavy and draggy,
but I like low and slow. Any more thoughts?
--
John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
What's wrong with rebar?
Clif
do not archive
I made my first set out of 3/32" cable and turnbuckles. I didn't like
the way tey looked...too big and clunky. Once I saw tail brace wires
made out of 1/16" cables and turnbuckles, I decided to go that route.
Its lighter and much nicer looking. 1/8" cable as well as 3/32" is
overkill. There are many Piets out there with 1/16" cable flying safely.
Rick Schreiber
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