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1. 05:40 AM - first flight (Donald Lane)
2. 06:04 AM - Re: first flight (Jack)
3. 10:04 AM - first flight (Donald Lane)
4. 10:30 AM - Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (Michael Perez)
5. 11:07 AM - Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (dgaldrich)
6. 12:06 PM - Re: first flight (Jim Markle)
7. 01:26 PM - Re: Windshield height (K5YAC)
8. 02:20 PM - Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (Jerry Dotson)
9. 04:03 PM - Re: first flight (Ryan Mueller)
10. 05:24 PM - C-85 on eBay (Jack)
11. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (John Kuhfahl)
12. 06:02 PM - Re: first flight (Charles Campbell)
13. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (mark lee)
14. 06:29 PM - Re: Re: Windshield height (helspersew@aol.com)
15. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Windshield height (gboothe5@comcast.net)
16. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: Windshield height (Ryan Mueller)
17. 07:01 PM - pitot tube (Bob edson)
18. 07:17 PM - Re: first flight (Clif Dawson)
19. 07:31 PM - Re: Re: Windshield height (Ken Bickers)
20. 07:44 PM - Re: first flight (Gboothe5)
21. 08:51 PM - Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (Jerry Dotson)
22. 09:34 PM - Re: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (Greg Cardinal)
23. 10:31 PM - Re: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (mark lee)
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We are still dealing with the aftermath of Irene.
Video available soon
Do not archive
Don L
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Congratulations!
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:38 AM, "Donald Lane" <dslane@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> We are still dealing with the aftermath of Irene.
> Video available soon
> Do not archive
> Don L
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Here is the link to N110DL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E71g17X1fSU
Don Lane
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
The hard wire way is also TB free.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
--- On Mon, 8/29/11, John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Brace Wires--Again
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 7:42 PM
> No turnbuckles? John
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011
> at 8:36 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
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> I am using 1/16th cable with swaged on
> fittings. (still building)
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
For those of you doing (or who did) swaged fittings, what tooling did you use to
swage the fittings to the cable? I'm looking at some VERY expensive machines
on line that seem to be the ticket but I'll be darned if I'm going to spend
more than I am on my engine for a one time thing. I live in sailboat country
but most sailboat cabling is larger than the 3/32 +/- we use on the tail feathers
otherwise I'd see if I can talk them into doing some fittings. I can't see
the AN fittings being soft enough to use a nicopress tool. So what's the scoop?
Inquiring minds want to know...
Dave Aldrich
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Donald! That was great! Thanks for sharing.
Wonder why you had someone on each strut walking the plane out to the field....maybe
they were just walking along (?) but it really looked like they had a specific
role in the process. If so, what is their role at that point?
Very cool video.
Jim
Pryor, OK
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Lane
Sent: Aug 30, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight
Here is the link to N110DL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E71g17X1fSU
Don Lane
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield height |
Let's see... Dan is 1'7" so that windscreen mus be about 17'4".
helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
> Scale the photo?
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Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
Dave all the cable swagers I have seen were a hydraulic device either hand pumped
or electric.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
now covering
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
How the hey did you fit in there?! You're not properly sized at all! ;-)
Ryan
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On Aug 30, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Donald Lane wrote:
> Here is the link to N110DL
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E71g17X1fSU
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> Don Lane
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No reserve...No smoke :-)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160644743568&s
sPageName=ADME:B:SS:MOTORS:1123
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
I have a poor-mans swager-got it from aircraft spruce. Be sure to get the
go-no-go guage as well. If you did a good swage that guage will tell you.
All for $20-30 when I bought it. John
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>wrote:
> jdotson@centurylink.net>
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> Dave all the cable swagers I have seen were a hydraulic device either hand
> pumped or electric.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> now covering
> 21" wheels
> Lycoming O-235
> Jay Anderson CloudCars prop
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351042#351042
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President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
They are his brakes.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: first flight
> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> Donald! That was great! Thanks for sharing.
>
> Wonder why you had someone on each strut walking the plane out to the
> field....maybe they were just walking along (?) but it really looked like
> they had a specific role in the process. If so, what is their role at
> that point?
>
> Very cool video.
>
> Jim
> Pryor, OK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Donald Lane
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> Sent: Aug 30, 2011 12:02 PM
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> To: pietenpol
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight
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> Here is the link to N110DL
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E71g17X1fSU
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> Don Lane
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
Yes there are good less expensive tools. Some work well and you don't need
to spend a fortune. They aren't for mass production and are slower to use.
But be sure to get the go no go gauge. I used to make my own cables for hang
gliding and have been able to make nice cables. The EAA has a good video on
the subject that you can see for free on their site. The tool that they use
isn't cheap but it's high quality and he shows how to use it and the go no
go gauge properly. I think most people are pleasantly surprised at how easy
this is to do well.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:23 PM, John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a poor-mans swager-got it from aircraft spruce. Be sure to get the
> go-no-go guage as well. If you did a good swage that guage will tell you.
> All for $20-30 when I bought it. John
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>wrote:
>
>> jdotson@centurylink.net>
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>> Dave all the cable swagers I have seen were a hydraulic device either hand
>> pumped or electric.
>>
>> --------
>> Jerry Dotson
>> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
>> Baker, FL 32531
>>
>> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
>> now covering
>> 21" wheels
>> Lycoming O-235
>> Jay Anderson CloudCars prop
>>
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351042#351042
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield height |
FUUUuuNNNNeyeeeeee (not laughing). I am a FULL 5 ft. 7" I'll have you know.
And also a big FYI to some (y'all know who you are) I am not mean.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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-----Original Message-----
From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:26 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshield height
Let's see... Dan is 1'7" so that windscreen mus be about 17'4".
elspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
Scale the photo?
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield height |
And a tremendously pleasant individual to boot
Ryan
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On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:27 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> FUUUuuNNNNeyeeeeee (not laughing). I am a FULL 5 ft. 7" I'll have you
know. And also a big FYI to some (y'all know who you are) I am not mean.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
> do not archive
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:26 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshield height
>
>
> Let's see... Dan is 1'7" so that windscreen mus be about 17'4".
>
>
> helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
> > Scale the photo?
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> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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We have our piet assembled for precover inspection on Thursday and
stuart systems is coming Saturday,Sunday and Monday to demonstrate their
covering system. I am installing the pitot tube and (question) do I need
the static tube in the open cockpit installation? Bob I'll try to
attach some photos.
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
This vid has been blocked here for music copyrite
infringement from The Orchard Music and EMI.
clif
http://www..youtube.com/watch?v=E71g17X1fSU
Don Lane
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield height |
Okay, seriously, I did print the picture and try to scale it. It
appears that Dan's windscreen is approximately one hairline high --
maybe a hairline and a half.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> And a tremendously pleasant individual to boot
> Ryan
> do not archive
> On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:27 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
> FUUUuuNNNNeyeeeeee (not laughing). I am a FULL 5 ft. 7" I'll have you know.
> And also abig FYI to some (y'all know who you are) I am not mean.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:26 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshield height
>
>>
>
> Let's see... Dan is 1'7" so that windscreen mus be about 17'4".
>
>
> helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
>> Scale the photo?
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> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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> Read this topic online here:
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Interesting that you bring that up, Clif..I wanted to say that, although I
enjoyed the clip (before being blocked), the music of that engine was
drowned out.and I really missed that. Anyhow.Well Done, Don!!
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
I think that Dave Aldrich was referring to the type fitting shown in this picture.
The swagers you guys are talking about is for Nicopress sleeves made from
copper or aluminum. It takes serious pressure to swage that stainless MS fitting.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
now covering
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Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
Hi Dave,
All of the swaging on NX18235 was done by a local boat shop. The charge was
about $4.00 per fitting 8 years ago.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
> <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
>
> For those of you doing (or who did) swaged fittings, what tooling did you
> use to swage the fittings to the cable? I'm looking at some VERY
> expensive machines on line that seem to be the ticket but I'll be darned
> if I'm going to spend more than I am on my engine for a one time thing. I
> live in sailboat country but most sailboat cabling is larger than the 3/32
> +/- we use on the tail feathers otherwise I'd see if I can talk them into
> doing some fittings. I can't see the AN fittings being soft enough to use
> a nicopress tool. So what's the scoop? Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> Dave Aldrich
>
> do not archive
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351030#351030
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
You are right and that type of fitting isn't what I thought you needed
swaged. If you have a chance to get pics of yours being done they would be
good to see.
do not archive
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Greg Cardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net>wrote:
> gcardinal@comcast.net>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> All of the swaging on NX18235 was done by a local boat shop. The charge was
> about $4.00 per fitting 8 years ago.
>
> Greg Cardinal
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:05 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again
>
>
>> dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
>>
>> For those of you doing (or who did) swaged fittings, what tooling did you
>> use to swage the fittings to the cable? I'm looking at some VERY expensive
>> machines on line that seem to be the ticket but I'll be darned if I'm going
>> to spend more than I am on my engine for a one time thing. I live in
>> sailboat country but most sailboat cabling is larger than the 3/32 +/- we
>> use on the tail feathers otherwise I'd see if I can talk them into doing
>> some fittings. I can't see the AN fittings being soft enough to use a
>> nicopress tool. So what's the scoop? Inquiring minds want to know...
>>
>> Dave Aldrich
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/**viewtopic.php?p=351030#351030<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351030#351030>
>>
>>
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