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1. 04:05 AM - Re: pitot tube (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:43 AM - Pitot tube (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 05:20 AM - first flight (Donald Lane)
4. 05:56 AM - swaged fittings (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 05:57 AM - first flight (Jim Markle)
6. 05:57 AM - Don's plane (Douwe Blumberg)
7. 06:06 AM - Re: first flight (Amsafetc)
8. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again (Michael Perez)
9. 01:08 PM - Re: Windscreen sizing (Dan Yocum)
10. 01:25 PM - Re: Windscreen sizing (gboothe5@comcast.net)
11. 02:53 PM - Re: Windscreen sizing (Ken Bickers)
12. 06:55 PM - Top View (gboothe5@comcast.net)
13. 07:23 PM - Re: top view (Gboothe5)
14. 08:53 PM - Windshield height (Oscar Zuniga)
15. 09:24 PM - Re: Re: Windshield height (Amsafetc)
16. 09:42 PM - Re: Windshield height (Gerry Holland)
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What a Beauty! There was a discussion on this list a few weeks ago about
static ports. Think the general consensus was that either way is fine.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob edson
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: pitot tube
We have our piet assembled for precover inspection on Thursday and stuart
systems is coming Saturday,Sunday and Monday to demonstrate their covering
system. I am installing the pitot tube and (question) do I need the static
tube in the open cockpit installation? Bob I'll try to attach some
photos.
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Bob,
Another gorgeous Piet coming off the line. You should be very proud. If the
y all make it to Brodhead that will really be something.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
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The wing walkers were there for safety, as I have no brakes and there is
a big ditch either side of the taxiway. I am the one on the left wing,
Barry Triplett is the pilot.
Don
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There are two basic types of "swaged" fittings. One is typically done at
home and is called a "nicopress" sleeve, this it he most common and is
covered in Bingiles' books extensively. They're easy to do and strong, but
they look a bit clunky compared to the other type.
The other type is a true swaged fitting and utilizes a stainless fitting
that is swaged on by an expensive tool that usually only owned by companies
such as marine, aircraft or some EAA chapters. This type is strong and very
professional. If you want to go this route, you can have Aircraft spruce
swage the fittings you purchase onto your cables for not much money, or find
a marine shop who can do it like Greg did.
Douwe
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Thanks Don,
I'm also using a Model A and it's exciting to find out you need a couple extra
people to hold that beast back!!!
Well, we can dream, right? But it does seem to really climb nicely. Maybe it's
the perspective of the camera but it was neat watching it climb after take off.
Maybe you could (if you haven't already) give us an idea of what went into
the engine. I think it's great information but if you prefer, and have the
time, a summary of the engine specs would sure be appreciated. Or if you've already
done that and I can look it up myself, let me know where.
So having someone there for safety is something I never even thought about and
that is a great idea.
Now would you PLEASE take the music off that YouTube video so we can go back to
watching it?!?!?!
Again, congrats! Very exciting/motivating....
Jim
Pryor, OK
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From: Donald Lane
Sent: Aug 31, 2011 7:17 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: first flight
The wing walkers were there for safety, as I have
no brakes and there is a big ditch either side of the taxiway. I am the
one on the left wing, Barry Triplett is the pilot.
Don
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Congratulations Don!!
She climbs like a homesick angel, very impressive!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Great job on the Piet and the video production and the background music was r
eally good
Thanks for making it available
John
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 30, 2011, at 1:02 PM, "Donald Lane" <dslane@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Here is the link to N110DL
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E71g17X1fSU
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> Don Lane
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Brace Wires--Again |
Crew, here is a picture of the swage on fittings I used. Also, the other picture
represents the swager I have. It is a very expensive unit, but does include
all dies for the various cable size end fittings as well as dies for the various
sizes of single and double shank ball fittings. Go/No Go gauge and tools included.
If interested in having these types of fittings installed, email me directly.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Windscreen sizing |
I raised the height of my windscreens about 3" on N8031 after flying with th
e originals somewhere between my nose and forehead for the first 20+ hours. T
he tops are about 18" above the top longeron.
However, I've been getting some low frequency, high amplitude (loud!) harmon
ic buffeting in my ears and I'm almost convinced it's because the front wind
screen is TOO high, pushing so much air up which bounces off the center sect
ion and back into the rear 'pit. I'd also like to create a higher rake to t
he front windscreen, like on all the biplanes of the '20's and '30's, but I'
m not sure I'll be able to accomplish that.
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Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Aug 29, 2011, at 6:20 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> The top of my windscreen is above my eyes, but below the top of my head, a
s shown below:
>
> <image001.jpg>
>
> If I had it to do over again, I would make the top of the windscreen even w
ith or slightly above the top of my head, as John Hofmann=99s N502R ha
s it in the picture below:
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> The windshields on John Hofmann=99s =9C502 Rocket=9D are
taller, and you can comfortably fly behind them with no goggles or sunglass
es, as shown below:
>
>
>
> <image003.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: Windscreen sizing |
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| Subject: | Re: Windscreen sizing |
Dan, how much clearance would you estimate you now have between the
top edge of your windscreen and the bottom of the wing? I'm curious
if others with tall windscreens have also gotten the harmonic
buffeting that you are describing. Cheers, Ken
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:23 PM, <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> "...but I'm not sure I'll be able to accomplish that..."
>
> What do you mean by that, Dan? Is not possible...or, do you need help? If
> it's the latter, I'm willing.
>
> Gary
>
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:05:51 -0400
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Windscreen sizing
> I raised the height of my windscreens a= bout 3" on N8031 after flying with
> the originals somewhere between my nose a= nd forehead for the first 20+
> hours. The tops are about 18" above the top lo= ngeron.
> However, I've been getting some low f= requency, high amplitude (loud!)
> harmonic buffeting in my ears and I'm almos= t convinced it's because the
> front windscreen is TOO high, pushing so much a= ir up which bounces off the
> center section and back into the rear 'pit. &nbs= p;I'd also like to create
> a higher rake to the front windscreen, like on all= the biplanes of the
> '20's and '30's, but I'm not sure I'll be able to accom= plish that.
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
> "I fly because it relea= ses my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> On Aug 29= , 2011, at 6:20 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
>
> The top of my windscreen is above my ey= es, but below the top of my head,
> as shown below:
>
>
> <image001.jpg><= /font>
>
>
> If I had it to do over again, I would m= ake the top of the windscreen even
> with or slightly above the top of my head, as= John Hofmann=99s N502R
> has it in the picture below:<= /font>
>
>
> Jack Phillips<= /p>
>
> NX899JP
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> The windshields on John Hofmann=99s =9C502 Rocket=9D are
> talle= r, and you can comfortably fly behind them with no goggles or
> sunglasses, as shown below:
>
>
> <image003.jpg>
>
>
>
>
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List,
I'm 'on the road.' Does someone have a top view drawing they could send to me?
Gary
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
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Thanks, Curt!!
From: Curtis Merdan [mailto:curtdm@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:05 PM
Subject: top view
I'm only inside on the computer because it's still hot outside.
Curt
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| Subject: | Windshield height |
Ken;
In my opinion, Corky made the windscreens on 41CC just about the
perfect height. They could be maybe just a whisker taller, but
certainly no shorter or narrower. There are ample pix of the airplane out
there, but if you want to get an idea of proportion (Ken, I know you've
seen them in person, but still...), check here:
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CorkyPiet.html
Scout is set up just about the same as Ernie Moreno's Piet, as you
can see from the 5th image down here, which shows this perfectly:
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/piets.html
Also see the 8th and 9th images on that page.
When it's warm, about all that happens when you leave the lee of
the windshield is that you get buffeted. When it's cold, it
is really an icy blast when you lean your head to one side or
the other or peer over the top. This kind of maneuver is essential
when you're S-turning during taxi, when you're slipping to a landing,
when you're in the flare during landing, when you're looking for
traffic, etc.- and I will echo what others have said: a little bit
taller and wider is better. In my case (I wear contact lenses) when
I get in a strong wind my contacts dry out and diminish the clarity
of my vision, so it's all around better for me to stay out of the
direct slipstream.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield height |
No you're not mean. Even if you're the black and yellow German, to sneaker o
h wait to boot, thats it
Do not archive or he'll never where he's got the secret papers hid
John
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 30, 2011, at 9:27 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> FUUUuuNNNNeyeeeeee (not laughing). I am a FULL 5 ft. 7" I'll have you know
. And also a big FYI to some (y'all know who you are) I am not mean.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
> do not archive
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 3:26 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Windshield height
>
>
> Let's see... Dan is 1'7" so that windscreen mus be about 17'4".
>
>
> helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
> > Scale the photo?
>
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> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield height |
Hi from England!
Another area with icy blasts!
I have attached a image of my old Corben windshield. I constructed it
using the guidance of a member of this forum.
Very pleased and I felt it looked good. It did not shelter me nearly
good enough so I have added 3 extra panels around it using thin
brackets.
It's all in 4mm Lexan. It's a bit of a dogs dinner but works and retains
the general framed style I like.
No googles needed until real winter and my R/T transmission are returned
as 5's and very clear.
Just an idea for those with framed windshields.
Regards
Gerry
Gerry Holland
gholland@content-stream.co.uk
+44 (0)7808 402404
White Ox Mead, Bath. England
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