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1. 12:45 AM - Re: World's Smallest Airport (Wizzard187)
2. 04:19 AM - Re: Fw: Push pull set-up (Jack)
3. 07:25 AM - Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method (bender)
4. 07:40 AM - so much discussion about props (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
5. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method (helspersew@aol.com)
6. 08:28 AM - Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method (bender)
7. 10:33 AM - GN-1 PROJECT FOR SALE (Dan Gaston)
8. 04:31 PM - Re: Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method (helspersew@aol.com)
9. 08:54 PM - Push pull set-up (Oscar Zuniga)
10. 09:06 PM - Re: Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method (Gboothe5)
11. 11:17 PM - Re: so much discussion about props (shad bell)
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Subject: | Re: World's Smallest Airport |
You got look at this.
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From: jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2011 2:54 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: World's Smallest Airport
ail.com>
I thought that everyone might enjoy seeing some Athens, GA, local aviation
istory. My EAA Chapter president told me about this link, and I thought tha
t I
ould pass it on.
In short, back in the late 1940's, three brothers came back from the war an
d had
heir own flying circus. This video is a movie trailer for an upcoming
ocumentary being filmed about the Thrasher Brothers Aerial Circus. The othe
r
ink is an article written by the son of one of the Thrasher Brothers that
xpands the story a little bit. It is a view of a time when people were thri
lled
y the aerial exploits of these pilots, but before the spit and polish glitz
y
ir shows of today. Not quite the Dilhoefer Flying Circus, but still fun to
see.
Just a fun bit of history, and I also thought that everyone would enjoy see
ing
he twin ercoupe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R_76LHkU6I
http://flagpole.com/Weekly/slackpole/TheWorldsSmallestAirport-29Dec10
http://ercoupe.com/story_4.php
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emper Fi,
Terry Hand
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Subject: | Fw: Push pull set-up |
Ken I believe you are close. Preliminary rigging gives 19 degrees forward
and rear throw of the stick. This gives me 30 degrees up and 25 degrees
down elevator travel. All my controls are per plans with the exception of
my bellcrank. It is Ken Perkins design which is the same size but allows
less slack in the rear control cables.
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide
CPO/FAAOP
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:16 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Push pull set-up
Members:
I have set-up my push pull tubes with aircraft grade tie rod ends on the
bell crank and support swing arm behind the seat. The measured throw of the
stick is 20 degrees in either direction. Since I do not have my tail section
in place ( working on making original hinges) not sure what that equates to
in inches of movement ( other than stick movement fore and aft of 3.25
inches from neutral position. Question - am I in the ball park for elevator
throw? What is the acceptable movement of the stick throw? Any constructive
advice much appreciated. See photos (all connection professionally welded).
KMHeide
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Subject: | Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method |
You got it Oscar...
its a 76x42...
here it is installed
jeff
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Subject: | so much discussion about props |
Is there a resource that one can access that would help define the optimum
prop for a Piet? I am looking at the 72" 44 pitch as a possible candidate
for mounting on my Lycoming 0235 C1B. There is one available from one of the
guys on the airport and am considering it as a possible until I can get up
enough self confidence to try carving my own. Not to put the prop before
the Piet as it were but lately have been making some progress. I figure
being out of work in October I should be ale to make some substantial progress
so the plan is to build till I go broke! Its not a perfect plan, but a plan
nonetheless. Unless I find a the good fortune to land a job before then.
Please advise
Thanks
John
Do not archive
Less ya wanna
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Subject: | Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method |
Jeff,
You should be very proud of that prop. It is absolutely gorgeous.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Subject: | Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method |
Wouldn't have done it without your help Dan..
i've read lots of stuff about carving and didn't quite get it till i got The All-Power
Tool Method... and i'm not being paid to say it
i have friend that want me to carve wall hangers now...
depending on how this one works on the piet i may make spares or other shapes
and pitches
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Subject: | GN-1 PROJECT FOR SALE |
I have a GN-1 project for sale. Complete rib set built, tail feathers
built fuselage sides built. All wood necessary to complete, including
spars. All wood came from Aircraft Spruce. Laser cut 4130 fittings.
Continental A-65-8 with carb, mags,hub, logs on engine stand. For
details, just e-mail me. I would prefer not to part this out. $4,000.00
for all. I am located in Norwalk, ohio. Thank you, Dan Gaston.
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Subject: | Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method |
Jeff,
Thank you for the kind words. I myself was amazed at being able to do some
thing that I always considered as a "black art", but after having observed
Jerry Thornhill at OSH , and having done it myself, I thought that this sim
ple set of instructions should be written down and passed on to others. To
my knowledge this type of instruction does not exist in this basic form any
where else. I can't wait to see how your 42" pitch prop performs. It would
be great if you did a thrust test with the "Piet List-Industrial Fish Scale
". Then we all would have some hard data to compare.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 10:29 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method
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Wouldn't have done it without your help Dan..
i've read lots of stuff about carving and didn't quite get it till i got Th
e
ll-Power Tool Method... and i'm not being paid to say it
i have friend that want me to carve wall hangers now...
depending on how this one works on the piet i may make spares or other shap
es
nd pitches
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Subject: | Push pull set-up |
Ken;
What I have done many times when I needed to figure out
geometries is to get some cardboard, push pins, twine, sticks,
and similar materials and just mock up the assembly in 2-D to see if
it works. You make the cutouts full-size and then just tack
them flat to your work table and see how they work.
I'll bet that in 15-20 minutes you
could make up your bellcrank, control stick, and pushrod
assembly out of stuff you have laying around and then see
what kind of elevator travel you get with the available
fore-and-aft stick travel. Just put a couple of push pins
in the table as "control stops" to limit the stick travel,
then see what kind of up and down arc you get from the
"elevators"... which can be made out of anything.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method |
Jeff,
I am in procession of Dan's fish scales, waiting for time to re-pitch my
prop.or for someone in immediate need to ask for them. If you want to do
thrust test, and use Dan's scales, just email me off-list.
Gary
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helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method
Jeff,
Thank you for the kind words. I myself was amazed at being able to do
something that I always considered as a "black art", but after having
observed Jerry Thornhill at OSH , and having done it myself, I thought that
this simple set of instructions should be written down and passed on to
others. To my knowledge this type of instruction does not exist in this
basic form anywhere else. I can't wait to see how your 42" pitch prop
performs. It would be great if you did a thrust test with the "Piet
List-Industrial Fish Scale". Then we all would have some hard data to
compare.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 10:29 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop-carving CD, The All-Power Tool Method
Wouldn't have done it without your help Dan..
i've read lots of stuff about carving and didn't quite get it till i got The
All-Power Tool Method... and i'm not being paid to say it
i have friend that want me to carve wall hangers now...
depending on how this one works on the piet i may make spares or other
shapes
and pitches
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Subject: | Re: so much discussion about props |
If you find- 0-235c1-b prop, (especially a metal one) at a good price, it
should haul your piet nicely through the air.- At least you're not using
one of those "Crank Snappers" from GM.- Those require a massive set of T
estosterone carrying sphere shaped aparati which is suposedly inversly prop
ortional to the size of the aforementioned pilot's brain, and which may cau
se threads on this discussion group for weeks on end, resulting in a way ov
er weight aircraft and a run-on sentence my English teacher from high schoo
l would keep me after class, not the hot young one but the old gray haired
one who smells like Vicks Vapor Rub, and reminds me of the land lord lady f
rom the movie Kingpin!
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For All That Is Holy DO NOT ARCHIVE!
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Shad Bell
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