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1. 09:57 AM - undercamber (airlion)
2. 10:32 AM - Re: undercamber (Dan Yocum)
3. 01:35 PM - Re: undercamber (airlion)
4. 02:05 PM - Re: Retractable sliding step (Ryan Mueller)
5. 02:42 PM - Re: Retractable sliding step (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
6. 04:38 PM - Re: Retractable sliding step (helspersew@aol.com)
7. 05:13 PM - Rebuilding an A-65 (Dave Nielsen)
8. 05:42 PM - Re: Rebuilding an A-65 (Isablcorky@aol.com)
9. 05:43 PM - Re: Rebuilding an A-65 (Isablcorky@aol.com)
10. 10:42 PM - Re: Rebuilding an A-65 (bender)
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Why did Bernie put the undercamber on his airfoil? what does it do to the flight
characteristics, and what would happen if I installed a filler strip to make it
flat? Cheers, Gardiner
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Gardiner,
Do you have the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual? It's a good read and
outlines why Bernard used the airfoil that he did. He experimented with
a lot of them and this one was the best he could find. It's based
loosely on the Jenny airfoil, but is closer to one designed by Eiffel,
if I recall correctly.
The reason the Piet is faster than a Cub is because of the FC-10 airfoil.
Anyway, the manual is cheap - $6.95 + S&H from the EAA online store:
http://www.shopeaa.com/1932flyingandglidermanual.aspx
Cheers,
Dan
PS Stop dilly-dallying with "what-ifs" and get back to building! ;-)
On 09/22/2011 11:55 AM, airlion wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: airlion<airlion@bellsouth.net>
>
> Why did Bernie put the undercamber on his airfoil? what does it do to the flight
> characteristics, and what would happen if I installed a filler strip to make
it
> flat? Cheers, Gardiner
>
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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While I am building my ribs(only 6 more to go) I just keep thinking all kind of
what ifs. I should be able to start assembling my wings soon. Thanks for the
reply Dan. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sent: Thu, September 22, 2011 1:30:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: undercamber
Gardiner,
Do you have the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual? It's a good read and
outlines why Bernard used the airfoil that he did. He experimented with
a lot of them and this one was the best he could find. It's based
loosely on the Jenny airfoil, but is closer to one designed by Eiffel,
if I recall correctly.
The reason the Piet is faster than a Cub is because of the FC-10 airfoil.
Anyway, the manual is cheap - $6.95 + S&H from the EAA online store:
http://www.shopeaa.com/1932flyingandglidermanual.aspx
Cheers,
Dan
PS Stop dilly-dallying with "what-ifs" and get back to building! ;-)
On 09/22/2011 11:55 AM, airlion wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: airlion<airlion@bellsouth.net>
>
> Why did Bernie put the undercamber on his airfoil? what does it do to the
>flight
> characteristics, and what would happen if I installed a filler strip to make
it
> flat? Cheers, Gardiner
>
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable sliding step |
Looks good....just curious....which plans page has the step on it? I think I
forgot to order that one, just want to pick up a copy from the
family...thanks,
Ryan
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
<kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> Members:
>
> Here are some photos I made of my step which I created last year. The key
> here is light wall tubing slid inside another tube. The buttons are called
> step buttons found in aluminum canes or crutches. They will allow for my
> step to slide out and lock into the correct 6" length. Then push the button
> in and they slide back into the sleeve. I placed this set-up as as far back
> as I could under my seat. Used small pieces of ash bolted through my 1/4"
> thick floor!
>
> So now... flame away as I added MORE weight to the rear of the fuse! I will
> have the nicest easy to get into..outside control horned..looking Pietenpol
> "brick" in the country! However, I am keeping it to plans!
>
>
> *KMHeide*
>
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable sliding step |
..it comes as a suppliment when you order the gear leg plans, the orginal gear
legs.... no stinking cub landing gear here!
KMHeide
--- On Thu, 9/22/11, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Retractable sliding step
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 4:02 PM
> Looks good....just curious....which plans
> page has the step on it? I think I forgot to order that one,
> just want to pick up a copy from the family...thanks,
> Ryan
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Members:
> Here are some photos
> I made of my step which I created last year. The key here is
> light wall tubing slid inside another tube. The buttons are
> called step buttons found in aluminum canes or crutches.
> They will allow for my step to slide out and lock into the
> correct 6" length. Then push the button in and they
> slide back into the sleeve. I placed this set-up as as far
> back as I could under my seat. Used small pieces of ash
> bolted through my 1/4" thick floor!
>
> So now... flame away
> as I added MORE weight to the rear of the fuse! I will have
> the nicest easy to get into..outside control horned..looking
> Pietenpol "brick" in the country! However, I
> am keeping it to plans!
>
> KMHeide
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Retractable sliding step |
Ryan,
I thought I had made this all clear, when I discovered that "lost page" a c
ouple of years ago.......you need to monitor the list more attentively.....
. Sorry to be so harsh.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 22, 2011 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Retractable sliding step
com>
..it comes as a suppliment when you order the gear leg plans, the orginal g
ear
egs.... no stinking cub landing gear here!
KMHeide
-- On Thu, 9/22/11, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Retractable sliding step
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 4:02 PM
Looks good....just curious....which plans
page has the step on it? I think I forgot to order that one,
just want to pick up a copy from the family...thanks,
Ryan
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com
>
wrote:
Members:
Here are some photos
I made of my step which I created last year. The key here is
light wall tubing slid inside another tube. The buttons are
called step buttons found in aluminum canes or crutches.
They will allow for my step to slide out and lock into the
correct 6" length. Then push the button in and they
slide back into the sleeve. I placed this set-up as as far
back as I could under my seat. Used small pieces of ash
bolted through my 1/4" thick floor!
So now... flame away
as I added MORE weight to the rear of the fuse! I will have
the nicest easy to get into..outside control horned..looking
Pietenpol "brick" in the country! However, I
am keeping it to plans!
KMHeide
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| Subject: | Rebuilding an A-65 |
I am rebuilding an A-65 with practically all new parts. Can anyone tell me
if there is a specific orientation to the pistons and the connecting rod? T
he con rods have the oil holes in the bottom. Do the con rod numbers face t
he mags or the prop? How about the pistons. Or does it make a difference?
"Bat Cave" Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Retractable sliding step
Looks good....just curious....which plans page has the step on it? I think
I forgot to order that one, just want to pick up a copy from the family...t
hanks,
Ryan
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Members:
Here are some photos I made of my step which I created last year. The key h
ere is light wall tubing slid inside another tube. The buttons are called s
tep buttons found in aluminum canes or crutches. They will allow for my ste
p to slide out and lock into the correct 6" length. Then push the button in
and they slide back into the sleeve. I placed this set-up as as far back a
s I could under my seat. Used small pieces of ash bolted through my 1/4" th
ick floor!
So now... flame away as I added MORE weight to the rear of the fuse! I will
have the nicest easy to get into..outside control horned..looking Pietenpo
l "brick" in the country! However, I am keeping it to plans!
KMHeide
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding an A-65 |
In a message dated 9/22/2011 7:13:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
sentuchows@aol.com writes:
I am rebuilding an A-65 with practically all new parts. Can anyone tell me
if there is a specific orientation to the pistons and the connecting rod?
The con rods have the oil holes in the bottom. Do the con rod numbers face
the mags or the prop? How about the pistons. Or does it make a difference?
"Bat Cave" Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Retractable sliding step
Looks good....just curious....which plans page has the step on it? I think
I forgot to order that one, just want to pick up a copy from the
family...thanks,
Ryan
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
<_kmheidecpo@yahoo.com_ (mailto:kmheidecpo@yahoo.com) > wrote:
Members:
Here are some photos I made of my step which I created last year. The key
here is light wall tubing slid inside another tube. The buttons are called
step buttons found in aluminum canes or crutches. They will allow for my
step to slide out and lock into the correct 6" length. Then push the button
in and they slide back into the sleeve. I placed this set-up as as far back
as I could under my seat. Used small pieces of ash bolted through my 1/4"
thick floor!
So now... flame away as I added MORE weight to the rear of the fuse! I
will have the nicest easy to get into..outside control horned..looking
Pietenpol "brick" in the country! However, I am keeping it to plans!
KMHeide
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding an A-65 |
In a message dated 9/22/2011 7:13:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
sentuchows@aol.com writes:
I am rebuilding an A-65 with practically all new parts. Can anyone tell me
if there is a specific orientation to the pistons and the connecting rod?
The con rods have the oil holes in the bottom. Do the con rod numbers face
the mags or the prop? How about the pistons. Or does it make a difference?
"Bat Cave" Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 22, 2011 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Retractable sliding step
Looks good....just curious....which plans page has the step on it? I think
I forgot to order that one, just want to pick up a copy from the
family...thanks,
Ryan
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
<_kmheidecpo@yahoo.com_ (mailto:kmheidecpo@yahoo.com) > wrote:
Members:
Here are some photos I made of my step which I created last year. The key
here is light wall tubing slid inside another tube. The buttons are called
step buttons found in aluminum canes or crutches. They will allow for my
step to slide out and lock into the correct 6" length. Then push the button
in and they slide back into the sleeve. I placed this set-up as as far back
as I could under my seat. Used small pieces of ash bolted through my 1/4"
thick floor!
So now... flame away as I added MORE weight to the rear of the fuse! I
will have the nicest easy to get into..outside control horned..looking
Pietenpol "brick" in the country! However, I am keeping it to plans!
KMHeide
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Buy yourself a service manual and enroll in a mechanics trade school
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding an A-65 |
i have manuals at the hangar... i'll take a look
jeff
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