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1. 06:19 AM - Re: Ok, so I cheated and am doing this backwards. (Dale McCleskey)
2. 08:46 AM - Re: cable tension (K5YAC)
3. 10:47 AM - Re: machined control horns? (dgaldrich)
4. 10:48 AM - Re: rib wedges and one more question (V Groah)
5. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: machined control horns? (Gboothe5)
6. 04:44 PM - Re: Re: machined control horns? (helspersew@aol.com)
7. 06:53 PM - Re: Re: machined control horns? (airlion)
8. 07:03 PM - Re: "The Last Original" Fly's Again (dwilson)
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Subject: | Re: Ok, so I cheated and am doing this backwards. |
Congratulations. You obviously couldn't do better than getting Dick's workmanship.
On route. I'm in Lebanon, TN (M-54) we have a grass strip, so come and see us.
Then on the trip to Brodhead I've used Ohio County (7K4) no grass, but it's a
good place to stop and friendly people, then due to various weather conditions
I've used Sullivan County (SIV) and Vermillion (DNV), Pontiac (PNT), and Dixon
Walgreen (C73), though my favorite of all it Dwight, Ill. (DTG). You get a grass
strip in a soybean field and to meet the elderly couple who run the tiny
airport. After they'd fueled my plane, on the way back from Brodhead, I found
they didn't take a credit card. They gave me a ticket and said mail them a check.
Such folks are what makes low and slow so extremely worthwhile because of
the people you meet along the way.
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Dale McCleskey
N7035N
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Subject: | Re: cable tension |
All I know is "ping" is too tight.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: machined control horns? |
Has anyone tried doing the control horns in sheet aluminum? I'm thinking .032
2024T3 bent like the steel ones but edge riveted. Might save a pound or two on
that long lever arm back to the tail for cg and would be easier to corrosion
treat.
I have a guess that they would be strong enough, though not as strong as the steel
version. The question is just how strong is strong enough. Since control
surface travel is limited by physical stops in most cases, the max load would
be aerodynamic. Any engineers out there have a clue on the aero load forces?
That sort of math makes my head hurt.
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Subject: | rib wedges and one more question |
just came in on the middle of this discussion as I have been away. We used
wedges as well. cut a long piece beveled and chopped it off to length to
glue in. Vic
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> From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: rib wedges and one more question
> Date: Thu=2C 29 Sep 2011 19:15:07 -0400
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> I used spruce wedges. A beveled spar would work fine=2C but is adding a
> considerable amount of weight for no benefit (in between the ribs).
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> You need the ribs with extra support at the root and tip to withstand the
> tension of the fabric=2C which can exert an incredible amount of force.
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> Jack Phillips
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> Smith Mountain Lake=2C Virginia
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> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kyle85
> Sent: Thursday=2C September 29=2C 2011 5:47 PM
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib wedges and one more question
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> Hello once again=2C just getting ready to start my wing c-section soon. M
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> first question is do I install wedges between the rib and the spar=2C lik
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> plans call for? OR do i oversize the spar and taper it down to facilitate
> the ribs. I do remember somthing awhile back about using plywood spacers
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> with the extra supports on the rib root and on the outer portion of the
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Subject: | Re: machined control horns? |
My first reaction was, "Why?" Then, I gave it some more
thought..........Why? You're driving Dan Helsper to drink!
Gary from Cool
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dgaldrich
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 10:45 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: machined control horns?
Has anyone tried doing the control horns in sheet aluminum? I'm thinking
.032 2024T3 bent like the steel ones but edge riveted. Might save a pound
or two on that long lever arm back to the tail for cg and would be easier to
corrosion treat.
I have a guess that they would be strong enough, though not as strong as the
steel version. The question is just how strong is strong enough. Since
control surface travel is limited by physical stops in most cases, the max
load would be aerodynamic. Any engineers out there have a clue on the aero
load forces? That sort of math makes my head hurt.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353640#353640
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Subject: | Re: machined control horns? |
I already do that........But it WILL take me to the next level!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 1:08 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: machined control horns?
My first reaction was, "Why?" Then, I gave it some more
hought..........Why? You're driving Dan Helsper to drink!
Gary from Cool
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mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dgaldrich
ent: Friday, September 30, 2011 10:45 AM
o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: machined control horns?
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Has anyone tried doing the control horns in sheet aluminum? I'm thinking
032 2024T3 bent like the steel ones but edge riveted. Might save a pound
r two on that long lever arm back to the tail for cg and would be easier to
orrosion treat.
I have a guess that they would be strong enough, though not as strong as th
e
teel version. The question is just how strong is strong enough. Since
ontrol surface travel is limited by physical stops in most cases, the max
oad would be aerodynamic. Any engineers out there have a clue on the aero
oad forces? That sort of math makes my head hurt.
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Subject: | Re: machined control horns? |
I have a suggestion. How about having a workshop set up where everyone that is
new to the game can learn all these new tricks. I would like to learn how to
make those control horns instead of using flat steel. We are getting a lot of
questions on how to do things that I think are simple,but then , again, I am
simple. I think that with all the tools that are available in Brodhead we could
set a workshop for our use. I can learn a lot better with hands on than listen
to someone talk for an hour. My 2 cents worth. Gardiner. PS New ribs are done
and now to build new wings. Always thinking of the next Brodhead trip
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From: "helspersew@aol.com" <helspersew@aol.com>
Sent: Fri, September 30, 2011 7:41:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: machined control horns?
I already do that........But itWILL take me to the next level!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 1:08 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: machined control horns?
My first reaction was, "Why?" Then, I gave it some more
thought..........Why? You're driving Dan Helsper to drink!
Gary from Cool
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dgaldrich
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 10:45 AM
<dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
Has anyone tried doing the control horns in sheet aluminum? I'm thinking
.032 2024T3 bent like the steel ones but edge riveted. Might save a pound
or two on that long lever arm back to the tail for cg and would be easier to
corrosion treat.
I have a guess that they would be strong enough, though not as strong as the
steel version. The question is just how strong is strong enough. Since
control surface travel is limited by physical stops in most cases, the max
load would be aerodynamic. Any engineers out there have a clue on the aero
load forces? That sort of math makes my head hurt.
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Subject: | Re: "The Last Original" Fly's Again |
Do you remember what she looked like just a couple of months ago during Brodhead?
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