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1. 06:52 AM - Re: Aerolite glue (Bill Church)
2. 09:21 AM - Re: GN-1 short vid (Dan Yocum)
3. 11:08 AM - Photo (kevinpurtee)
4. 11:24 AM - Re: Photo (Dave Abramson)
5. 11:40 AM - Re: Photo (K5YAC)
6. 11:48 AM - NX53WE (Bob edson)
7. 11:59 AM - Re: Photo (TOM STINEMETZE)
8. 12:06 PM - Re: Photo (Jim Boyer)
9. 12:10 PM - Re: NX53WE (Jim Boyer)
10. 12:33 PM - Re: NX53WE (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
11. 01:52 PM - Re: NX53WE (K5YAC)
12. 02:08 PM - Re: Photo (kevinpurtee)
13. 02:27 PM - Re: Photo (Bill Church)
14. 02:28 PM - Re: Photo (kevinpurtee)
15. 02:30 PM - Re: Photo (kevinpurtee)
16. 02:32 PM - Re: Photo (K5YAC)
17. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Photo (Greg Cardinal)
18. 02:48 PM - Re: Photo (Bill Church)
19. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Photo (Jim Boyer)
20. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: Photo (Jim Boyer)
21. 03:22 PM - Re: NX53WE (helspersew@aol.com)
22. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Photo (Ben Charvet)
23. 04:07 PM - Re: Photo (Jerry Dotson)
24. 07:11 PM - Re: Photo (Piet2112)
25. 08:57 PM - Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the 1x1 for (PShipman)
26. 09:15 PM - Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the 1x1 for (K5YAC)
27. 09:17 PM - Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the 1x1 for (K5YAC)
28. 09:27 PM - Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the 1x1 for (PShipman)
29. 09:37 PM - Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the 1x1 for (K5YAC)
30. 09:53 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the 1x1 for (Ryan Mueller)
31. 10:08 PM - More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma (K5YAC)
32. 10:13 PM - Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the 1x1 fo (K5YAC)
33. 10:27 PM - Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the 1x1 fo (PShipman)
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| Subject: | Re: Aerolite glue |
Two points:
1) Rodney, when building a laminated spar or longeron, the grain directions of
the laminated strips should match. In the case of a spar, the resultant grain
should be horizontal, when the spar is standing upright. In other words, if you
look at the spar installed in the wing, the grain lines should look like a
very tall deck of cards (grain lines about 3/4" long). In the case of longerons,
since they are usually square, so the orientation isn't an issue. The grain
direction of the individual layers should stack on top of each other.
and
2) Very nice to see a post from Graham Hansen. As always, full of well thought
out, useful, practical advice, based on personal experience and logic. Thanks
for sharing, Graham.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: GN-1 short vid |
Great stuff, Larry! Congrats on getting her back in the air.
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On 10/02/2011 08:49 PM, TriScout wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "TriScout"<apfelcyber@yahoo.com>
>
> ..well, I flew the GN-1 last month and happened to have a little camera in my
pocket, so I captured some crude video during my maiden flight in it. It really
isn't a "maiden" flight since it's been flying since 1980, but it is first
hop w/it's 4th A65...as well as my first tailwheel flight in awhile...so it felt
maiden enough to me. I tried to play w/editing software on my Vista..seems
easy enough...what a blast. I felt like 16 again on first solo. I have 2 flts
in it, then back on the road for a couple weeks. In HKG as I write this. My wife
put it on "you-chube"..
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxpVnC4VqQ
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> Larry
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Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Did a static display at our airport on Saturday. Guy with a 1929 MG brought it
for a photo.
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Hi Kevin!
I am building one of those M-Type Mg's (that is a "Brooklands 12/12 replica"
Mine is in boxes and was wondering if you can send that picture to my e-mail
address?
Would like it for reference!!!!
Cheers!
Dave
davea@symbolicdisplays.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
kevinpurtee
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:06 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Photo
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Did a static display at our airport on Saturday. Guy with a 1929 MG brought
it for a photo.
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Cool pic Kevin.
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Mark Chouinard
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I think you will be able to see our piet,we have the tail feathers
painted. Bob
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Yeah, Kevin. Cool pic but TOO SMALL! How's a guy gonna make a wallpaper
out of that?
Stinemetze
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>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 10/3/2011 1:06 PM >>>
Did a static display at our airport on Saturday. Guy with a 1929 MG
brought it for a photo.
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Hi Kevin,
Looks good but wouldn't it be neat if you could pose in period clothes.
Jim B.
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Bob very nice colors and glossy too! What paint are you using? Whole Piet should
be beautiful.
Jim B.
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Great colors and shine Bob....can't wait to see the whole plane.
Brian
SLC-UT
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
edson
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 12:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX53WE
I think you will be able to see our piet,we have the tail feathers
painted. Bob
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Dang! I really like blue and yellow too! Although I've been forbidden to have
any thoughts of color scheme, in the back of my mind those two colors are one
of my favorite combinations. I saw a blue and yellow Culver Cadet on our field
last year that I really liked... dropped everything just to watch it taxi,
fuel and take back off.
Oh well, you weren't the first and I won't be the last if I choose that combo.
Looks really beautiful! Please tell us what you are using.
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Mark Chouinard
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I was in period clothes, Jim, but I wasn't in the picture. I was wearing an absolutely
adorable, red-sequined, strapless, flapper dress with .... uh.... well....
uh.... never mind...
(sorry)
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NX899KP
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I assume you had a cream colored purse and shoes, to go with the red dress ...
you know, to match the plane.
BC
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Ok. Let's see if I can attach a larger, but not too large version. Trying to
keep Ryan from getting mad at me 'cause I can never remember the instructions
for posting reasonably sized photos.
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That's better.
How'd you know, Bill? You weren't even there.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
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Bill was there, you just didn't recognize him because he was in drag too. I on
the other hand was NOT there... just going on what I was told.
Yep, that is a much better (and Mueller approved) photo.
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And notice how the crowd is ignoring the fabulous MG and flocking to the
Pietenpol...
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
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From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:26 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Photo
> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> Ok. Let's see if I can attach a larger, but not too large version.
> Trying to keep Ryan from getting mad at me 'cause I can never remember the
> instructions for posting reasonably sized photos.
>
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> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Just a lucky assumption, based on my knowledge of your impeccable sense of fashion
and style, Kevin.
BC
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shoot, there for a minute I thought we were going to see Shelley in a really pretty
dress.
Jim B.
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Much better photo Kevin; cool looking car too.
Jim B.
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I like it I like it!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bob edson <robertse@centurytel.net>
Sent: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 1:49 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX53WE
I think you will be able to see our piet,we have the tail feathers painted
. Bob
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The "it" boy of the skies!
Ben
On 10/3/2011 5:06 PM, kevinpurtee wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "kevinpurtee"<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> I was in period clothes, Jim, but I wasn't in the picture. I was wearing an
absolutely adorable, red-sequined, strapless, flapper dress with .... uh.... well....
uh.... never mind...
>
> (sorry)
>
> please do not archive
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> Kevin"Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
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Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Large pictures are easy to view. Just right click on the photo then left click
view picture
Cool picture too. When I saw the first pic my thought was the price of pixels must
have gone sky high from the size of that one.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
now covering
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop
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[quote="boyerjrb(at)comcast.net"]Hi Kevin,
Looks good but wouldn't it be neat if you could pose in period clothes.
Jim B.
> [b]
If Kevin were to pose, it should be in clothes, period.
Curt Merdan
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| Subject: | Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the 1x1 |
for
I know I am missing something very obvious ... but ...
Unwrapping and inventorying the fuselage kit from Aircraft Spruce reveals 16 pieces
of 1" x 1" x 25" ... AND ... 11 pieces of 1" x 1" x 37".
Plus there is all the normal wood to build the "improved" 1932 design ...
Are the extra pieces for building a stronger/heavier fuselage for a larger engine?
An inquiring (and confused) mind wants to know :P
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Perry Shipman
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the |
1x1 for
Sounds like tail section parts. If AS&S hasn't changed the part list too much,
the attached document should be helpful. I've copied the following text from
a previous thread I posted a while back.
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I know this wasn't requested, but with several new interested parties on the boards,
I figured I'd offer a list that has been very helpful to me. This might
be published elsewhere, but it was forwarded to me by someone here (probably Markle)
and I reference it often when trying to decide which pieces to use for
certain assemblies.
The original list that I received was compiled by Bob McKinley. I think he must
have been one of the Ohio guys as there was a Buckeye Piet sketch in the margin,
but I'm not sure. Certainly someone here knows of him. The list I recieved
was a scanned image of an old document that was typed up on a typewriter, and
some of the notes were difficult to make out. If I had that file I would offer
it too, but I'm afraid I've deleted it, or at least misplaced it among all my
Pietenpol goodies.
Anyhow, I used Bob's list to inventory my wood package when it was delivered. It
was pretty close to right on... the spar thickness was different (3/4" instead
of 1"), and Aircraft Spruce offered a couple of additional parts in the tail
section (I've noted all of these on the new list), otherwise it is very handy
in helping to sort out all the parts one might need to assemble this airplane,
whether you choose to purchase a wood package or cut your own parts.
All of Bob's notes are included in the notes section, but I've added a few of my
own to this modern version too IN BOLD.
I hope this helps some of you as much as it has helped me.
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Mark Chouinard
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the |
1x1 for
Oh, now I see FUSELAGE kit... I was thinking that you received the entire package.
I'm not sure what items are included in the wood package, but the list should
be helpful none the less.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the |
1x1 for
Mark ... thanks much for the list ... all of the fuselage items are there but in
addition there are the short 1 x 1 pieces that I mentioned ... far more than
called for ...
Pretty sure these are not for the tail as the tail kit has the longer pieces mentioned
in the list, not these short ones ...
If nothing else ... we have some really nice extra wood!
AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION :) ... the blueprints are not terrible clear on the wood/size
to use to frame up the seats (other than the white ash pieces) ... can you
give us an idea of what to use there?
Thanks
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Perry Shipman
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's all the |
1x1 for
Can't help you there... I haven't built my seats yet and don't have my plans handy.
Perhaps someone else will help.
As for the plans not being terribly clear... it is surprising how much information
is there... you may have to look in more than one place. I'm not saying that
the dimension you are looking for IS there, but it wouldn't surprise me to
find that other measurements might be interpolated to arrive a the one you are
looking for.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Kit from Aircraft Spruce ... what's |
all the 1x1 for
Long day, don't care to sift through the plans for you....but I would say:
if the plans don't see terribly clear....spend a little more time looking.
Find sheets that might have related views....the information is there. Kinda
like putting together a puzzle sometimes...and very satisfying when you see
the big picture
Ryan
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On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:25 PM, PShipman <perrytshipman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mark ... thanks much for the list ... all of the fuselage items are there
> but in addition there are the short 1 x 1 pieces that I mentioned ... far
> more than called for ...
>
> Pretty sure these are not for the tail as the tail kit has the longer
> pieces mentioned in the list, not these short ones ...
>
> If nothing else ... we have some really nice extra wood!
>
> AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION :) ... the blueprints are not terrible clear on the
> wood/size to use to frame up the seats (other than the white ash pieces) ...
> can you give us an idea of what to use there?
>
> Thanks
>
> --------
> Perry Shipman
> Lakeside, CA
>
>
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| Subject: | More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma |
I received a phone call earlier this evening from a girl named Angie Hyatt. My
first thought was, "ok, what are you selling Angie?" After she introduced herself
she went on to tell me that she lives in Owasso (a few miles from me and
my project) and that someone had forwarded her a copy of my writing from the
BPA Newsletter. Ok, now I'm listening! She said, "the man in the photo standing
in front of the Scout is my Great Grandfather, Orrin Hoopman... do you know
who he is?" I said, "well yes, I'm working on an airplane that he drew the
plans for." She replied, "Oh? You are building a Pietenpol?" I explained that
I am, hence the reason that I was involved with the newsletter. She didn't
have a full copy of the newsletter, just the one page and she didn't seem to
be fully aware of what BPA is.
Anyhow, she went on to tell me that her Great Grandfather (Hoopman) used to fly
10718 to go visit his girlfriend. She said, "Most of my family is in Cherry
Grove, Minnesota... my parents moved to Oklahoma with the Army just before I was
born." Angie's mother, Cathy Ryan lives just a few miles away in Broken Arrow,
Oklahoma... the same town where 10718 now resides... they are going to go
see it tomorrow.
Angie asked if she and her family could stop by to look at my project sometime
since we are right down the road. Of course I obliged. She added that her Grandmother
(Orrin Hoopman's daughter), Bernie Finke (wife of John Finke) would
be here this winter for a visit and asked if she could bring her by to look as
well. I told her I would fire up the heater.
Angie went to Brodhead in 1999 with her family and she said they had a wonderful
time, but she wasn't aware of the huge following for the design. I told her
that there is still a great interest in building and flying this design, and
that there is a fairly large group of people carrying on daily discussions and
debates about the very plans her Great Grandfather drew up.
Anyhow... I'm certainly no historian on all things Pietenpol, so we exchanged our
information and agreed to get together this week to look things over. I did
mention Chet Peek's book, "The Pietenpol Story"... she said that she has a copy,
but has never read it. I said, "You should, your Great Grandfather and a
man named Don Finke (maybe John's Dad?) are mentioned quite a bit."
Very interesting and out of the blue phone call. This story is obviously still
developing, so I'll post an update at a later time.
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Mark Chouinard
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Perry, I see you have met Ryan, our resident "short fuse". LOL! But he is right,
it is like a big puzzle. A LOT of things don't seem real evident at first
glance, or even second or third for that matter, but it's all there.
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i must say that what is fun about this IS the big puzzle aspect of it! There was
a comment made that there was really a lot of buried information in the plans,
etc. Sure finding that to be true. Every time I read back over a sheet I
see something new. Also reading the notes from the 1932 articles have a lot
of insights. Must say that this project is like a great wife (I've been married
to a great one for forty years ) ... every day this is something new to discover!
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Perry Shipman
Lakeside, CA
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