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1. 02:30 AM - Re: Re: TheStewart System (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
2. 03:29 AM - Re: Re: TheStewart System (Jack)
3. 08:56 AM - Re: slow flying (Jim Boyer)
4. 01:20 PM - Re: slow flying (Dan Yocum)
5. 09:44 PM - Re: TheStewart System (coxwelljon)
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| Subject: | Re: TheStewart System |
Jon Wrote:
I am planning on using 3M Fastbond 30-NF water based contact cement and Latex paint.
Jon,
I was looking at the same product.
3M Fastbond is available in Australia but the Stewart ekobond doesn't appear to
be.
Looking at the MSDS for both products, the ingredients are the same.
See link for Ekobond MSDS:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/70168988/Stewart-Systems-EkoBond-MSDS
And attached PDF for Fastbond MSDS.
I'm also considering using Latex as final coat. I like the semi-closs finish which
I think is in character with the Aircamper.
Still a long way to go before covering but I have a lot of time to do research
right now as I'm miles away from my project.
Have been for the last two years and will be for at least another two months.
Sure am looking forward to getting back to building again.
JohnW,
Perth, Australia
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| Subject: | Re: TheStewart System |
Jon and others thanks for the help!
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of coxwelljon
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TheStewart System
<coxwelljon@frontiernet.net>
the ecobond is great, and doesn't stink. Works great with Latex too!
I am planning on using 3M Fastbond 30-NF water based contact cement and
Latex paint. I have researched this some and find that Fastbond may be the
same product as the Ekobond. I cannot guarantee that but I have a friend
that used the stewart system and we are going to do some experimentation
with some left over Ekobond and Fastbond. Fastbond is considerably cheaper
but hard to find in small quantities. I got mine through Granger
(http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/3M-Contact-Adhesive-3XH48) at about $40
per quart. You can get it for around $50 per gal in 5 gal quantities. It
comes in green and neutral just like the Stewart System.
I plan to use a high grade of white latex for an undercoat as it has the
highest percentage of titanium dioxide which is a refractory and reflects
ultra violet. (Titanium dioxide is used to get very bright whites and is
used in sun screen for UV protection) and then a color coat over that.
My friend was quite happy with the Stewart System but found it is very
susceptible to humidity at lower temperatures. He got a blush that actually
changed the color and had to redo a wing. He is using a maroon base with
cream trim He was doing it in the basement of a solar home which only had
wood heat. I think the lower temperature meant a higher relative humidity.
I know some epoxy formulations will blush at high humidity.
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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Hi Dan,
We had a customer ruin the engine in one of our rental Cessna 182 from flying too
slow. The rear cylinders were not getting enough cooling air due to higher
angle of attack at such low airspeed.
Jim B.
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Ah, good point. But, the 182 has a big 6-cyl O-470 engine and mine is
only an A-65. Still, that's something to consider, but at lower RPMs
less heat is generated, too.
On 10/06/2011 10:53 AM, Jim Boyer wrote:
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> Hi Dan,
>
> We had a customer ruin the engine in one of our rental Cessna 182 from
> flying too slow. The rear cylinders were not getting enough cooling air
> due to higher angle of attack at such low airspeed.
>
> Jim B.
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Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: TheStewart System |
John Woods wrote:
> Jon Wrote:
> I am planning on using 3M Fastbond 30-NF water based contact cement and Latex
paint.
>
> Jon,
>
> I was looking at the same product.
> 3M Fastbond is available in Australia but the Stewart ekobond doesn't appear
to be.
> Looking at the MSDS for both products, the ingredients are the same.
>
> See link for Ekobond MSDS:
> http://www.docstoc.com/docs/70168988/Stewart-Systems-EkoBond-MSDS
>
> And attached PDF for Fastbond MSDS.
>
> I'm also considering using Latex as final coat. I like the semi-closs finish
which I think is in character with the Aircamper.
>
> Still a long way to go before covering but I have a lot of time to do research
right now as I'm miles away from my project.
> Have been for the last two years and will be for at least another two months.
> Sure am looking forward to getting back to building again.
>
> JohnW,
> Perth, Australia
John W,
Thanks for sharing that. They are not identical but oh so close.
Jon
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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