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Fri 10/07/11


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     1. 05:36 AM - Tig Welding 101 (Kringle)
     2. 05:38 AM - Re: Tig Welding 101 (Jerry Dotson)
     3. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: Tig Welding 101 (Michael Perez)
     4. 06:13 AM - Re: Tig Welding 101 (jarheadpilot82)
     5. 06:19 AM - Re: Tig Welding 101 (Kringle)
     6. 06:35 AM - Re: Re: Tig Welding 101 (Dave Nielsen)
     7. 06:37 AM - Re: Tig Welding 101 (Jerry Dotson)
     8. 09:14 AM - Re: Tig Welding 101 (Barry Davis)
     9. 09:39 AM - Google satellite photo (Bill Church)
    10. 09:55 AM - MSP to CHA ferry flight itinerary. (tools)
    11. 09:58 AM - Re: Google satellite photo (Wayne Bressler)
    12. 10:07 AM - Re: MSP to CHA ferry flight itinerary. (airlion)
    13. 10:16 AM - Re: Tig Welding 101 (Kringle)
    14. 10:22 AM - Re: MSP to CHA ferry flight itinerary. (tools)
    15. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: Tig Welding 101 (Max Hegler)
    16. 07:07 PM - 3M Fastbond 30-NF (Oscar Zuniga)
    17. 07:30 PM - Re: 3M Fastbond 30-NF (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
    18. 07:44 PM - Re: 3M Fastbond 30-NF (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:36:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Tig Welding 101
    From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    After three evening classes at the local community college and 9 hours of practice tig welding, this is my best. I asked the instructor if he would climb into my aircraft for a ride if he saw these welds and he assured me he would. He tig welds all day for a living and said he would be happy to to do my welding for me if I wasn't comfortable with it. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354258#354258 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tig_weld_982.jpg


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    Time: 05:38:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tig Welding 101
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    I would ride with you. Good looking weld -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 now covering 21&quot; wheels Lycoming O-235 Jay Anderson CloudCars prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354259#354259


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    Time: 06:11:33 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Tig Welding 101
    TIG welding is great! Good for you to take the time to learn how to do it properly. Looks great. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 06:13:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tig Welding 101
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    To my untrained eye the weld looks really nice. I just wish I had a community college in my town that taught a night course on welding! Very nice. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354263#354263


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    Time: 06:19:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tig Welding 101
    From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    I'm also fortunate to only live 20 minutes from the Hobart Institute of Welding which offers world class instruction. However, it is too expensive for a hobbyist like me to attend. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354266#354266


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    Time: 06:35:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tig Welding 101
    From: Dave Nielsen <sentuchows@aol.com>
    Wow, That's better then what I can do. "Bat Cave" Dave -----Original Message----- From: Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 9:20 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tig Welding 101 I'm also fortunate to only live 20 minutes from the Hobart Institute of Wel ding hich offers world class instruction. However, it is too expensive for a obbyist like me to attend. -------- ohn ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354266#354266 -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 06:37:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tig Welding 101
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    I went to a Hobart seminar in Atlanta in the mid 60's. It was not a hands on just classroom. They were teaching us how to weld armor plate for military airplanes. It was a good school. Basically how to treat the stuff so the welds didn't crack. Fairchild Aircraft paid the bill. We were building pilot and co-pilot armor underneath the seats for C-123's headed for Vietnam. It was thin but enough to stop small arms fire. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 now covering 21&quot; wheels Lycoming O-235 C 2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354269#354269


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    Time: 09:14:38 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Tig Welding 101
    Cut this piece in half across the weld with a bandsaw and check your penetration with a magnifying glass. That will tell you if your temp is correct. Wouldn't hurt to cut open several welds as you change from plate to tube, etc while you are still learning. Can't be too careful when your butt is a couple hundred feet in the air. Barry -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tig Welding 101 After three evening classes at the local community college and 9 hours of practice tig welding, this is my best. I asked the instructor if he would climb into my aircraft for a ride if he saw these welds and he assured me he would. He tig welds all day for a living and said he would be happy to to do my welding for me if I wasn't comfortable with it. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354258#354258 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tig_weld_982.jpg


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    Time: 09:39:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Google satellite photo
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    I read that Google Maps recently updated the satellite image used for Wittman Regional Airport at Oshkosh to use photos taken at some point during AirVenture 2011. So I just had a look, and it's true. I managed to find 3 Pietenpols. Jack and Matt are parked in their Primo spot, beside the Brown Arch. And I found Kevin's Piet in the Vintage area (I just looked for a pair of Crocs). Screen captures are attached. Kind of fun to see which planes you can identify. There are also a few RVs, Bonanzas, Cessnas .... zzzzzzzz Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354286#354286 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/899kp_osh_205.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenposh_183.jpg


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    Time: 09:55:52 AM PST US
    Subject: MSP to CHA ferry flight itinerary.
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    This whole flight planning on my own is hard work! Tried to get Delta to work me up a flight plan... but their software was a little confused by the speeds and altitudes. Anyhoo, if weather permits, gonna try to get out Monday morning. Not withstanding a little dodging airports, here's the plan. OEO (Osceola WI); Y51 (Veroqua WI, fuel stop); C37 (Brodhead WI, fuel stop); C77 (Poplar Grove, fly by, maybe a quick landing); DTG (Dwight IL, overnight courtesy Joe, thanks!). DTG; SIV (Sullivan IN, fuel stop); [7k4, ohio county if necessary for fuel]; M54 (Lebanon TN, fuel and meet Dale hopefully, thanks!) then last leg to 9A5 (Lafayette GA, mission complete). Each day is about 375 miles. I have been offered headsets, intercoms, GPS and all sorts of goodies by folks here for the trip, but I think I'm covered and really really appreciate the offers. I have two hand held gps's, a radio, good headsets, intercom (flying with my 18yr old son). He is printing up the trip using satellite data courtesy runwayfinder.com and we've got current vfr sectionals I'm plotting today. Always willing to divert this way or that if anyone is around a nearby airfield and wants to share a cup of coffee or something. Really looking forward to this trip! If weather keeps us out on Monday, gonna try again after the 20th. Cheers, Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354288#354288


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    Time: 09:58:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Google satellite photo
    From: Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
    If you look at the brown square on the roof if the building next to the tower, I'm pretty sure that little black dot of a person is me. :) I also found my car in the B lot. No plane... Wayne Bressler Taildraggers, Inc. www.taildraggersinc.com On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:37 PM, "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > I read that Google Maps recently updated the satellite image used for Wittman Regional Airport at Oshkosh to use photos taken at some point during AirVenture 2011. So I just had a look, and it's true. > I managed to find 3 Pietenpols. Jack and Matt are parked in their Primo spot, beside the Brown Arch. And I found Kevin's Piet in the Vintage area (I just looked for a pair of Crocs). Screen captures are attached. > Kind of fun to see which planes you can identify. > > There are also a few RVs, Bonanzas, Cessnas .... zzzzzzzz > > Bill C. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354286#354286 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/899kp_osh_205.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenposh_183.jpg > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:07:09 AM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: MSP to CHA ferry flight itinerary.
    what kind of plane are you flying? ----- Original Message ---- From: tools <n0kkj@yahoo.com> Sent: Fri, October 7, 2011 12:53:35 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: MSP to CHA ferry flight itinerary. This whole flight planning on my own is hard work! Tried to get Delta to work me up a flight plan... but their software was a little confused by the speeds and altitudes. Anyhoo, if weather permits, gonna try to get out Monday morning. Not withstanding a little dodging airports, here's the plan. OEO (Osceola WI); Y51 (Veroqua WI, fuel stop); C37 (Brodhead WI, fuel stop); C77 (Poplar Grove, fly by, maybe a quick landing); DTG (Dwight IL, overnight courtesy Joe, thanks!). DTG; SIV (Sullivan IN, fuel stop); [7k4, ohio county if necessary for fuel]; M54 (Lebanon TN, fuel and meet Dale hopefully, thanks!) then last leg to 9A5 (Lafayette GA, mission complete). Each day is about 375 miles. I have been offered headsets, intercoms, GPS and all sorts of goodies by folks here for the trip, but I think I'm covered and really really appreciate the offers. I have two hand held gps's, a radio, good headsets, intercom (flying with my 18yr old son). He is printing up the trip using satellite data courtesy runwayfinder.com and we've got current vfr sectionals I'm plotting today. Always willing to divert this way or that if anyone is around a nearby airfield and wants to share a cup of coffee or something. Really looking forward to this trip! If weather keeps us out on Monday, gonna try again after the 20th. Cheers, Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354288#354288


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    Time: 10:16:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tig Welding 101
    From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    Here is a cross cut of the piece. Thanks for the advice. -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354292#354292 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cross_cut_002_178.jpg


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    Time: 10:22:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: MSP to CHA ferry flight itinerary.
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    This one! Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354293#354293


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    Time: 01:10:22 PM PST US
    From: Max Hegler <maxhegler@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Tig Welding 101
    Jerry=2C Thanks to you and you workmates! I flew AC-130 Gunships in SEA and the armo r in my seat pan stopped a round that would have put a big dent in my butt if not worse! Always wanted to thank whoever put the armor there. Even if i t was C-123's that you worked on=2C the AC-130's got the same treatment. Take Care=2CMax > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tig Welding 101 > From: jdotson@centurylink.net > Date: Fri=2C 7 Oct 2011 06:35:39 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > .net> > > I went to a Hobart seminar in Atlanta in the mid 60's. It was not a hands on just classroom. They were teaching us how to weld armor plate for milit ary airplanes. It was a good school. Basically how to treat the stuff so t he welds didn't crack. Fairchild Aircraft paid the bill. We were building p ilot and co-pilot armor underneath the seats for C-123's headed for Vietnam . It was thin but enough to stop small arms fire. > > -------- > Jerry Dotson > 59 Daniel Johnson Rd > Baker=2C FL 32531 > > Started building NX510JD July=2C 2009 > now covering > 21&quot=3B wheels > Lycoming O-235 C 2C > Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354269#354269 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 07:07:03 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: 3M Fastbond 30-NF
    I snooped around online for the Fastbond and found it alright, but nothing less than5 gal. pail of the product. When you find it in a quart, it's like $230! Makes nosense when the 5 gal. pail is $45. Any good source for a quart at a decent price? I'm not doing fabric work at themoment, but getting ready to start on a pair of skin-on-wood-frame kayaks that usepolyester fabric over the frame. Most people staple the fabric but I think cementwould be much nicer and thought I might try the Fastbond. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 07:30:28 PM PST US
    From: johnwoods@westnet.com.au
    Subject: Re: 3M Fastbond 30-NF
    Oscar, Try this eBay link: http://compare.ebay.com/like/170688019527?_lwgsi=y&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar JohnW Perth, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, 8 October, 2011 10:04:24 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3M Fastbond 30-NF I snooped around online for the Fastbond and found it alright, but nothing less than5 gal. pail of the product. When you find it in a quart, it's like $230! Makes nosense when the 5 gal. pail is $45. Any good source for a quart at a decent price? I'm not doing fabric work at themoment, but getting ready to start on a pair of skin-on-wood-frame kayaks that usepolyester fabric over the frame. Most people staple the fabric but I think cementwould be much nicer and thought I might try the Fastbond. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 07:44:27 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: 3M Fastbond 30-NF
    For what it's worth the Stewart glue I have looks and behaves just like the waterbased contact cement I used some years ago to glue arborite. Clif I snooped around online for the Fastbond and found it alright, but nothing less than5 gal. pail of the product. When you find it in a quart, it's like $230! Makes nosense when the 5 gal. pail is $45. > > Oscar Zuniga




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