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1. 04:18 AM - How to contact a local Piet? (j_dunavin)
2. 05:15 AM - Re: Bryan's needs for electricals with an A-65 (Timothy Willis)
3. 05:17 AM - RePiet from Gardiner (Timothy Willis)
4. 05:20 AM - "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 05:22 AM - Holes in helmet box (helspersew@aol.com)
6. 05:39 AM - Re: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." (helspersew@aol.com)
7. 06:14 AM - Re: Re: Bryan's needs for electricals with an A-65 (Bryan Reed)
8. 06:20 AM - Re: New to List (Michael Perez)
9. 06:34 AM - Re: New to List (Bryan Reed)
10. 06:52 AM - Re: How to contact a local Piet? (Bill Church)
11. 06:56 AM - Re: 3D Piet (TOM STINEMETZE)
12. 07:05 AM - Re: How to contact a local Piet? (jarheadpilot82)
13. 08:09 AM - Re: New to List (Bill Church)
14. 08:13 AM - Re: How to contact a local Piet? (j_dunavin)
15. 08:32 AM - Stromberg Mixture (Andrew Eldredge)
16. 08:46 AM - Re: New to List (kevinpurtee)
17. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: New to List (Bryan Reed)
18. 09:05 AM - Covering question (santiago morete)
19. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: New to List (Bryan Reed)
20. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: New to List (Michael Perez)
21. 10:42 AM - Re: Covering question (helspersew@aol.com)
22. 11:00 AM - Is there nothing casein glue can't do? (Dan Yocum)
23. 11:04 AM - Re: How to contact a local Piet? (aerocarjake)
24. 12:22 PM - Re: Covering question (kevinpurtee)
25. 12:57 PM - Re: Stromberg Mixture (Andrew Eldredge)
26. 01:25 PM - Re: Covering question (Dan Yocum)
27. 02:50 PM - Re: How to contact a local Piet? (j_dunavin)
28. 03:43 PM - Re: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." (Gboothe5)
29. 03:43 PM - Re: Is there nothing casein glue can't do? (helspersew@aol.com)
30. 03:58 PM - Re: Re: How to contact a local Piet? (Gboothe5)
31. 04:10 PM - Re: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." (airlion)
32. 05:35 PM - Re: Is there nothing casein glue can't do? (Ryan Mueller)
33. 05:50 PM - Re: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." (Gene Rambo)
34. 06:40 PM - Re: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." (Kip and Beth Gardner)
35. 06:59 PM - Re: Is there nothing casein glue can't do? (Dan Yocum)
36. 07:14 PM - Re: Update on Mike "Tools" Danford's Trek back to GA (tools)
37. 09:23 PM - Re: Re: New to List (Dick N)
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Subject: | How to contact a local Piet? |
My understanding is that there is a local Pietenpol here is Freeport IL. I would
love to see it and try it on for size, ask questions ect.
How can i contact this guy?
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Subject: | Re: Bryan's needs for electricals with an A-65 |
Bryan,
You have a clear path toward success-- good choices all around. Since
you need power, some thoughts:
Chuck Gantzer (Wichita, KS) has a solar panel on his Piet, on the
starboard wing, as I recall. I think he added it for long
cross-country. Others on the Piet MB have talked about using a
cordless drill battery for a common battery solution. They are
recharging the light battery on the ground, but solar could work in
flight. (I have not seen this combo, but will look into it, as I aslo
have an A-65.)
Others have used major add-on antennas to augment their handheld
radio's reach. If you do, use an aluminum "ground plane" under the
"stick" antenna, or consider a genuine metal dipole, possible in a
wooden aeroplane.
I think the main LG solution of Kevin Purtee is hard to beat. The
split LG with springs absorbs shock, and is likely lighter than the
solid axle. The baby buggy wheels are great, and add to the "magnet"
appeal of the design. Be sure to include disc brakes and a steerable
tailwheel in your thinking. Jack Phillips has a very nice design on
the tailwheel assy., with a coil spring, to replace BP's Model T
spring. (I copied his.)
Jack Phillips' installation of radios is also a very neat idea and a
great use of space. Jack has his transponder and radio up there for
the spatial reasons he stated. This is also good ergonomics, since
those items are far less monitored normally than the other stuff lower
down in normal eye search. BTW putting your GPS up there puts the
screen out of the glare of the sun. That is my plan, if I EVER get
that far. (I hope never to need a transponder. but bet we will all
need the newest FAA stuff, in time.)
Good luck with your build.
Tim in central TX
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Subject: | RePiet from Gardiner |
Gardiner,
Great progress. Great stuff. Good for you.
Tim in central TX
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Subject: | "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." |
HEY, WAIT JUST ONE DOGGON (SP?) MINUTE!!!
For the record "Re-Piet" has been painted on my wings for close to a year
and now Gardiner is gonna swipe it my name just like Gene Rambo did with
Dan's paint scheme. (Now I understand your paint and angst Dan) Wow, is
there no shame or humanity left in this world?
All in jest, Gardiner, name her what you like, you will have earned it at
that point, but to avoid confusion, maybe "repiet II"??
Douwe
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Subject: | Holes in helmet box |
Hey Jack Phillips,
I was admiring the photo of your radio set-up in your center section. What
is the purpose of those small holes in the underside of the helmet box?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Subject: | Re: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." |
Finally, I am getting some some empathy from this group.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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PS. I have not been able to raise Gene Rambo. Are you out there?
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From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 7:20 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..."
HEY, WAIT JUST ONE DOGGON (SP?) MINUTE!!!
For the record =9CRe-Piet=9D has been painted on my wings for c
lose to a year and now Gardiner is gonna swipe it my name just like Gene Ra
mbo did with Dan=99s paint scheme. (Now I understand your paint and a
ngst Dan) Wow, is there no shame or humanity left in this world?
All in jest, Gardiner, name her what you like, you will have earned it at t
hat point, but to avoid confusion, maybe =9Crepiet II=9D??
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: Bryan's needs for electricals with an A-65 |
Tim,
Solar, something we have no shortage of here. I just looked at "Power
Film" on Ebay and it may be an option.
I had an alternator shaft seize coming back from Camarillo, CA one night
in the 172 and was able to run for 2-hours into GEU with battery only. That
was with nav lights and the stack full on. I still had battery on landing
for flaps and it fired right up after we changed out the alternator. I
am optimistic that a 12-volt marine battery would power a digital radio and
transponder for 10-plus hours. That exceeds my bladder limit by at least
8-hours.
Thanks,
Bryan
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Timothy Willis <timwillis01@gmail.com>wrote:
> timwillis01@gmail.com>
>
> Bryan,
>
> You have a clear path toward success-- good choices all around. Since
> you need power, some thoughts:
>
> Chuck Gantzer (Wichita, KS) has a solar panel on his Piet, on the
> starboard wing, as I recall. I think he added it for long
> cross-country. Others on the Piet MB have talked about using a
> cordless drill battery for a common battery solution. They are
> recharging the light battery on the ground, but solar could work in
> flight. (I have not seen this combo, but will look into it, as I aslo
> have an A-65.)
>
> Others have used major add-on antennas to augment their handheld
> radio's reach. If you do, use an aluminum "ground plane" under the
> "stick" antenna, or consider a genuine metal dipole, possible in a
> wooden aeroplane.
>
> I think the main LG solution of Kevin Purtee is hard to beat. The
> split LG with springs absorbs shock, and is likely lighter than the
> solid axle. The baby buggy wheels are great, and add to the "magnet"
> appeal of the design. Be sure to include disc brakes and a steerable
> tailwheel in your thinking. Jack Phillips has a very nice design on
> the tailwheel assy., with a coil spring, to replace BP's Model T
> spring. (I copied his.)
>
> Jack Phillips' installation of radios is also a very neat idea and a
> great use of space. Jack has his transponder and radio up there for
> the spatial reasons he stated. This is also good ergonomics, since
> those items are far less monitored normally than the other stuff lower
> down in normal eye search. BTW putting your GPS up there puts the
> screen out of the glare of the sun. That is my plan, if I EVER get
> that far. (I hope never to need a transponder. but bet we will all
> need the newest FAA stuff, in time.)
>
> Good luck with your build.
>
> Tim in central TX
>
>
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Welcome Bryan!- My only comment at this time would be: since it sounds li
ke you have the skills, (tools as well?) then you may want to think about b
uying your sitka in bulk and making all of your pieces parts from that. The
only pre-machined wood I bought were the wing spars.
This will be a great time for you...whatkind wood work have you done in the
past? I have been making furniture for the home from time to time.
Michael Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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Michael,
My thoughts exactly. I have looked at Aircraft Spruce and Wicks. Both seem quite
high priced for the wood. I am waiting for plans to verify their lists but
both seem light on quantity. Any opinion on the above? Several local builders
have told me to avoid Aircraft Spruce for the wood as Wicks is now the main
supplier for wood built market. ???? I have used Aircraft Spruce quite successfully
in the past on other items.
Thank you,
Bryan
--------
While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
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Subject: | Re: How to contact a local Piet? |
Well, you could probably use a telephone, or the postal system, or even email.
Those seem to be the most common methods used to contact people these days.
:)
Seriously, though, Freeport isn't that big a place. The Pietenpol you're looking
for is probably Tim Mickel's (N57TL).
http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Tim%20Mickel/images/DSCF0170.JPG
Bill C.
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Waldo:
I would love to see your 3D model and I bet it will help a bunch when
you get to building the real thing. I will not be one of your reviewers
as my Piet is still in the "now how do I make this work?" stage. I am
also a total novice at Google Sketchup but want to learn more. While
not the traditional route to build an Air Camper, your approach has some
real merit!
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, Ks.
N328X
>>> Charles Waldo <cwaldo.jr@gmail.com> 10/11/2011 9:52 PM >>>
Charles Waldo
(Wheres Waldo?)
cwaldo.jr@gmail.com
PS: You cant build a Pietenpol from this drawing. It was intended only
to show how all the pieces fit together. You still need to buy the plans
from the Pietenpol family to build the plane!
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Subject: | Re: How to contact a local Piet? |
It is Tim Mickel's Piet.
FWIW, you can look up aircraft registrations in any county in the U.S. by accessing
the FAA records-
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/StateCounty_Inquiry.aspx
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(I am trying to get in the habit of adding that last line for things that I don't
mind responding to, but probably have little value in retaining in order to
help builders in their projects)
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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Bryan,
Welcome to the group. Hope you have a good sense of humor - it will come in handy
while sifting through some of the posts.
Sounds like you have a pretty good grip on how you want to build your Piet. Stick
to the plans as much as possible, and keep it light.
16" motorcycle wheels (I assume that you are referring to the rim size) will probably
look a little small. Most builders use 18", 19" or 21" rims. Personally,
I think 20" would be perfect, but they're pretty scarce (as are the tires to
go with them).
As for wood - yes the prices for Sitka at Wicks and Aircraft Spruce do seem a bit
pricy, BUT.... the wood they send you will be milled to size, and inspected.
When you buy rough lumber, there can always be hidden flaws that you won't find
until you slice it up. Their prices reflect the waste that is inevitable.
I have heard good things about both suppliers. Having said that, I chose to buy
rough-sawn Sitka planks, and milled all my pieces. I bought planks from two
different local suppliers, and while one was less than half the price of the other,
I was much happier with the "expensive" plank, which I paid $18/bd ft for.
Every cubic inch of that plank was usable, whereas the other plank had some
unusable sections. As with most things, "ya gets what ya pays for". One bit of
advice - whether you choose to mill your own wood, or order pre-cut pieces -
order one or two of Aircraft Spruce's Bargain Bag of Spruce. Lost of good usable
smaller pieces of Sitka that you will definitely find a use for while building.
As has been pointed out before, the wood may seem expensive, but it actually accounts
for a small percentage of the overall cost of the aircraft.
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: How to contact a local Piet? |
Thanks Guys!!
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Subject: | Stromberg Mixture |
I'm in the process of re-installing my engine. I've run into a problem on
connecting up the mixture control, I have either lost some parts or the
ones I have are damaged. There is a copper sleeve that the cable goes
through. It appears a drilled head screw goes through the control arm and
into the copper sleeve. Looking closely at that connection, it looks like
the threads of the screw have been fouled, perhaps by having the tip of the
screw been cranked into the cable within the sleeve.
Feel free to wax verbose on the treatment of this connection. It would be
great if someone could post a picture of this side of the installation. I
am uncertain at this point if my trouble is that my parts are damaged or
that I am missing something/ hooking it up wrong. If I need replacements I
don't even know what to call them. It this something Fresno Airparts would
have?
Thanks for the help.
--
Andrew Eldredge
Provo, UT
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Welcome, Bryan. NX899KP (Fat Bottomed Girl) is a direct rip-off of Don Emch's
beautiful airplane, with the exception of fuselage color and corvair motor. She
has 19" wheels.
Sounds like you're right on track.
Look forward to seeing you at Brodhead.
I'll be in Gila Bend in November. Small world and all that.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Thanks for the info Bill. Still deciding on the wood. Milling everything
is not a problem if I need to. The other hand says just buy the ready made
and save my time for other dragons to slay.
Bryan
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> Bryan,
> Welcome to the group. Hope you have a good sense of humor - it will come in
> handy while sifting through some of the posts.
> Sounds like you have a pretty good grip on how you want to build your Piet.
> Stick to the plans as much as possible, and keep it light.
> 16" motorcycle wheels (I assume that you are referring to the rim size)
> will probably look a little small. Most builders use 18", 19" or 21" rims.
> Personally, I think 20" would be perfect, but they're pretty scarce (as are
> the tires to go with them).
> As for wood - yes the prices for Sitka at Wicks and Aircraft Spruce do seem
> a bit pricy, BUT.... the wood they send you will be milled to size, and
> inspected. When you buy rough lumber, there can always be hidden flaws that
> you won't find until you slice it up. Their prices reflect the waste that is
> inevitable. I have heard good things about both suppliers. Having said that,
> I chose to buy rough-sawn Sitka planks, and milled all my pieces. I bought
> planks from two different local suppliers, and while one was less than half
> the price of the other, I was much happier with the "expensive" plank, which
> I paid $18/bd ft for. Every cubic inch of that plank was usable, whereas the
> other plank had some unusable sections. As with most things, "ya gets what
> ya pays for". One bit of advice - whether you choose to mill your own wood,
> or order pre-cut pieces - order one or two of Aircraft Spruce's Bargain Bag
> of Spruce. Lost of good usable smaller pieces of Sitka that you will
> definitely!
> find a use for while building.
> As has been pointed out before, the wood may seem expensive, but it
> actually accounts for a small percentage of the overall cost of the
> aircraft.
>
> Bill C.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354807#354807
>
>
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Subject: | Covering question |
Hi everyone!=0AI have a one piece-wing and-was thinking-about making
an aluminum frame (large enough to allow the tank to be removed-if needed
) glued to the fabric like any inspection ring. If I have to-remove the t
ank, I-can cut the fabric and later cover the hole with an aluminum panel
screwed to the frame an maybe to-the rib caps if any distortion appears.
=0AAnyone see a problem with this?=0ASaludos=0A-=0ASantiago
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Kevin,
Give me a call (602) 826-2240 for your Gila Bend trip as I am only
30-minutes away. I ran an ultralight flight and ride school out of Gila Bend
airport about 10-years ago. Sign is still up on the old hangar.
I would love to pick your brain on your Piet. I have loads of of room and
you would certainly be welcome to stay at my place if you wanted.
It indeed is a small world.
BTW I think I found an engine but am working out shipping first. C-65 with
about mid time but I probably would go through it and do the cylinder work
for more hp.
Bryan
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:44 AM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>wrote:
> kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> Welcome, Bryan. NX899KP (Fat Bottomed Girl) is a direct rip-off of Don
> Emch's beautiful airplane, with the exception of fuselage color and corvair
> motor. She has 19" wheels.
>
> Sounds like you're right on track.
>
> Look forward to seeing you at Brodhead.
>
> I'll be in Gila Bend in November. Small world and all that.
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
>
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>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354814#354814
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>
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First a clarification...I ordered my spars and longerons pre-cut. The spars
came from Public Lumber and the longerons from Aircraft Spruce.
All my bulk lumber came from Public Lumber and one other place...who's name
escapes me at the moment. I kept the length within UPS shipping limits so
there was no "extra" charge of any kind.- I had very few bad spots in/on
all my wood and really enjoyed making the pieces myself.
Michael Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Covering question |
Santiago,
I see no reason that this would not work. Sounds like a very good idea to m
e. Glad to see you are back at it amigo!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar>
Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 11:05 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering question
Hi everyone!
I have a one piece wing and was thinking about making an aluminum frame (la
rge enough to allow the tank to be removed if needed) glued to the fabric l
ike any inspection ring. If I have to remove the tank, I can cut the fabric
and later cover the hole with an aluminum panel screwed to the frame an ma
ybe to the rib caps if any distortion appears.
Anyone see a problem with this?
Saludos
Santiago
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Subject: | Is there nothing casein glue can't do? |
This isn't Pietenpol related, but I thought some of you antique airplane
history and science-type people might find it interesting, anyway.
Those old time airplane designers sure knew their stuff. Even the "One
Dollar Piet" was built with milk glue. Now someone has created a fabric
out of casein protein and they're using it to make dresses. About a
gallon and a half of milk per dress.
Just think, you too could not only glue your Pietenpol together with
casein glue, but cover it with casein fabric.
Just don't quote Johnny from Airplane. Here, I'll do it for you:
"Where did you get that dress? It's AWFUL! And those shoes and that
coat. JEEEEEZ!"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/07/us-germany-fashion-milk-idUSTRE7953MG20111007
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Subject: | Re: How to contact a local Piet? |
I believe another way to "contact" a local piet is to yell "clear prop" :D :)
:(
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Subject: | Re: Covering question |
Santiago - Needs to be a really strong aluminum frame.
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NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: Stromberg Mixture |
Perhaps this would be a good replacement?
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/cablendbnut.php
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Andrew Eldredge
<andrew.eldredge@gmail.com>wrote:
> I'm in the process of re-installing my engine. I've run into a problem on
> connecting up the mixture control, I have either lost some parts or the
> ones I have are damaged. There is a copper sleeve that the cable goes
> through. It appears a drilled head screw goes through the control arm and
> into the copper sleeve. Looking closely at that connection, it looks like
> the threads of the screw have been fouled, perhaps by having the tip of the
> screw been cranked into the cable within the sleeve.
>
> Feel free to wax verbose on the treatment of this connection. It would be
> great if someone could post a picture of this side of the installation. I
> am uncertain at this point if my trouble is that my parts are damaged or
> that I am missing something/ hooking it up wrong. If I need replacements I
> don't even know what to call them. It this something Fresno Airparts would
> have?
>
> Thanks for the help.
> --
> Andrew Eldredge
> Provo, UT
>
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Provo, UT
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Subject: | Re: Covering question |
Hi Santiago,
I have go with Kevin on this one, and just go straight for the aluminum
cover screwed into t-nuts which are mounted in the rib caps. That's
what I ended up doing when I had to cut into my center section.
Go back a couple days in the archive and look for the message thread
about "Covering question". I posted a picture of how Ted Davis's New
Standard addresses this same problem.
Cheers,
Dan
On 10/12/2011 11:03 AM, santiago morete wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> I have a one piece wing and was thinking about making an aluminum frame
> (large enough to allow the tank to be removed if needed) glued to the
> fabric like any inspection ring. If I have to remove the tank, I can cut
> the fabric and later cover the hole with an aluminum panel screwed to
> the frame an maybe to the rib caps if any distortion appears.
> Anyone see a problem with this?
> Saludos
> Santiago
>
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: How to contact a local Piet? |
har har har :D
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Subject: | "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." |
.or, "Re-repiet".
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..."
HEY, WAIT JUST ONE DOGGON (SP?) MINUTE!!!
For the record "Re-Piet" has been painted on my wings for close to a year
and now Gardiner is gonna swipe it my name just like Gene Rambo did with
Dan's paint scheme. (Now I understand your paint and angst Dan) Wow, is
there no shame or humanity left in this world?
All in jest, Gardiner, name her what you like, you will have earned it at
that point, but to avoid confusion, maybe "repiet II"??
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: Is there nothing casein glue can't do? |
Dan,
OK. Milk?............ Dresses? .............I see that this po
st came in precisely at 1:00 PM. Should I give you the benefit of the doubt
, that you were still on your lunch break "transitioning" from your lunch h
our, back to work?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 1:00 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Is there nothing casein glue can't do?
This isn't Pietenpol related, but I thought some of you antique airplane
istory and science-type people might find it interesting, anyway.
Those old time airplane designers sure knew their stuff. Even the "One
ollar Piet" was built with milk glue. Now someone has created a fabric
ut of casein protein and they're using it to make dresses. About a
allon and a half of milk per dress.
Just think, you too could not only glue your Pietenpol together with
asein glue, but cover it with casein fabric.
Just don't quote Johnny from Airplane. Here, I'll do it for you:
"Where did you get that dress? It's AWFUL! And those shoes and that
oat. JEEEEEZ!"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/07/us-germany-fashion-milk-idUSTRE79
53MG20111007
oh, do not archive
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Subject: | Re: How to contact a local Piet? |
Here's Jack T's handy-dandy directory! I see that Tim Mickel's name and
contact info does not appear here. Maybe someone can provide it so that we
can make harassing phone calls late on Sunday night...
Gary from Cool
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Subject: | Re: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." |
I am sorry Douwe, I did not know your Piet was a RePeat. How about THE GA P
IETNUT since I am from Georgia. Gardiner
--- On Wed, 10/12/11, Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..."
=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHEY, WAIT JUST ONE DOGGON (SP?) MI
NUTE!!! =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AFor the record =9CRe-Piet=9D has be
en painted on my=0Awings for close to a year and now Gardiner is gonna swip
e it my name just like=0AGene Rambo did with Dan=99s paint scheme. (N
ow I understand your paint and=0Aangst Dan) =C2-Wow, is there no shame or
humanity left in this world? =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AAll in jest, Gardiner, na
me her what you like, you will have=0Aearned it at that point, but to avoid
confusion, maybe =9Crepiet II=9D?? =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0ADouwe
=0A=0A =C2- =0A=0ADo not archive =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: Is there nothing casein glue can't do? |
Apparently one has far more free time once they stop accelerating particles.
;) (sorry Dan, it is sad)
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(Trying to get in the habit of adding that last line, not because I don't
mind responding to things, but because I try to not to torture future
generations with the BS that spews from my fingers)
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:40 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Dan,
>
> OK. Milk?............ Dresses? .............I see that this
> post came in precisely at 1:00 PM. Should I give you the benefit of the
> doubt, that you were still on your lunch break "transitioning" from your
> lunch hour, back to work?
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 1:00 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Is there nothing casein glue can't do?
>
>
> This isn't Pietenpol related, but I thought some of you antique airplane
> history and science-type people might find it interesting, anyway.
>
> Those old time airplane designers sure knew their stuff. Even the "One
> Dollar Piet" was built with milk glue. Now someone has created a fabric
> out of casein protein and they're using it to make dresses. About a
> gallon and a half of milk per dress.
>
> Just think, you too could not only glue your Pietenpol together with
> casein glue, but cover it with casein fabric.
>
> Just don't quote Johnny from Airplane. Here, I'll do it for you:
>
> "Where did you get that dress? It's AWFUL! And those shoes and that
> coat. JEEEEEZ!"
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/07/us-germany-fashion-milk-idUSTRE7953MG20111007
>
>
> oh, do not archive
>
> " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> p://forums.matronics.com
> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
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>
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Subject: | "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." |
I responded to you=2C Dan. I am here=2C waiting for signs of intelligent l
ife. Gene do not archive
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "He's a four-flusher=2C Mary Beth..."
From: helspersew@aol.com
Finally=2C I am getting some some empathy from this group.
Dan Helsper
Puryear=2C TN
do not archive
PS. I have not been able to raise Gene Rambo. Are you out there?
-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wed=2C Oct 12=2C 2011 7:20 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "He's a four-flusher=2C Mary Beth..."
HEY=2C WAIT JUST ONE DOGGON (SP?) MINUTE!!!
For the record =93Re-Piet=94 has been painted on my wings for close to a ye
ar and now Gardiner is gonna swipe it my name just like Gene Rambo did with
Dan=92s paint scheme. (Now I understand your paint and angst Dan) Wow=2C
is there no shame or humanity left in this world?
All in jest=2C Gardiner=2C name her what you like=2C you will have earned i
t at that point=2C but to avoid confusion=2C maybe =93repiet II=94??
Douwe
Do not archive=85
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Subject: | Re: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..." |
Not asking for much, are you Gene?
Kip G.
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On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:
> I responded to you, Dan. I am here, waiting for signs of
> intelligent life.
>
> Gene
>
> do not archive
>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..."
> From: helspersew@aol.com
> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:37:04 -0400
>
> Finally, I am getting some some empathy from this group.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
> do not archive
>
> PS. I have not been able to raise Gene Rambo. Are you out there?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
> To: pietenpolgroup <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 7:20 am
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: "He's a four-flusher, Mary Beth..."
>
> HEY, WAIT JUST ONE DOGGON (SP?) MINUTE!!!
>
> For the record =93Re-Piet=94 has been painted on my wings for close to
a
> year and now Gardiner is gonna swipe it my name just like Gene Rambo
> did with Dan=92s paint scheme. (Now I understand your paint and angst
> Dan) Wow, is there no shame or humanity left in this world?
>
> All in jest, Gardiner, name her what you like, you will have earned
> it at that point, but to avoid confusion, maybe =93repiet II=94??
>
> Douwe
>
> Do not archive=85
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Is there nothing casein glue can't do? |
A man's gotta eat, besides I was up at 6AM monitoring a database schema
upgrade. Fun stuff. Spellbinding. Let me tell you. I might even
write some documentation for work, tonight. After hours. At home.
See, the problem with working with and on computers for a living is that
we're always at work - the users can always find us. We're just an
email or instant message away.
If, during the normal work day, I happen to run across an article about
casein glue dresses stuck alongside some obscure documentation on how to
create huge look-aside buffer tables in the Linux kernel ('cause,
really, that's where I'd put a headline about milk dresses), well,
that's just the way it goes.
At least I'm not on 24x7 pager duty, this week.
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On 10/12/2011 05:40 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> Dan,
> OK. Milk?............ Dresses? .............I see that this post came in
> precisely at 1:00 PM. Should I give you the benefit of the doubt, that
> you were still on your lunch break "transitioning" from your lunch hour,
> back to work?
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 1:00 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Is there nothing casein glue can't do?
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dan Yocum<yocum137@gmail.com <mailto:yocum137@gmail.com>>
>
> This isn't Pietenpol related, but I thought some of you antique airplane
> history and science-type people might find it interesting, anyway.
>
> Those old time airplane designers sure knew their stuff. Even the "One
> Dollar Piet" was built with milk glue. Now someone has created a fabric
> out of casein protein and they're using it to make dresses. About a
> gallon and a half of milk per dress.
>
> Just think, you too could not only glue your Pietenpol together with
> casein glue, but cover it with casein fabric.
>
> Just don't quote Johnny from Airplane. Here, I'll do it for you:
>
> "Where did you get that dress? It's AWFUL! And those shoes and that
> coat. JEEEEEZ!"
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/07/us-germany-fashion-milk-idUSTRE7953MG20111007
>
> oh, do not archive
>
> " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> p://forums.matronics.com
> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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Fermilab 630.840.6509
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: Update on Mike "Tools" Danford's Trek back to GA |
Made it to Chickamauga this evening. What a trip. Can't imagine a better time
of the year. While practically nothing happened as planned, it was twice the
trip I had hoped.
Tools
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Bryan
Are you anywhere near Madison, Wi.? If so there is a source in Madison Mc
Cormack Lumber and it might be worth a search around the country of other
sources also. Boat building shops are a good posibility.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Reed" <reed44@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to List
>
> Michael,
>
> My thoughts exactly. I have looked at Aircraft Spruce and Wicks. Both
> seem quite high priced for the wood. I am waiting for plans to verify
> their lists but both seem light on quantity. Any opinion on the above?
> Several local builders have told me to avoid Aircraft Spruce for the wood
> as Wicks is now the main supplier for wood built market. ???? I have used
> Aircraft Spruce quite successfully in the past on other items.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bryan
>
> --------
> While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
>
>
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>
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