---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/24/11: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:38 AM - Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (carson) 2. 03:04 AM - Re: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (Jack) 3. 03:19 AM - Re: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (Jack) 4. 03:50 AM - Re: so i have been using poplar (Kyle85) 5. 05:34 AM - Re: Lycoming O-235 to purchase (skellytown flyer) 6. 05:45 AM - Re: Lycoming O-235 to purchase (carson) 7. 06:18 AM - Re: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (Gboothe5) 8. 06:41 AM - New Guy (Lawrence Williams) 9. 07:22 AM - Re: New Guy (jim_markle@mindspring.com) 10. 07:24 AM - Re: previous post cut off (Michael Perez) 11. 07:30 AM - Re: New Guy (Ryan Mueller) 12. 11:57 AM - Re: EAA866 sets skydive record (Jim Ash) 13. 02:25 PM - Re: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (Jim Boyer) 14. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (Michael Perez) 15. 03:15 PM - Re: EAA866 sets skydive record (Ben Charvet) 16. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (Gboothe5) 17. 04:10 PM - Cover (Gboothe5) 18. 04:45 PM - Re: Cover (Jim Boyer) 19. 04:53 PM - Re: Cover (Gboothe5) 20. 05:49 PM - Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (Bill Church) 21. 06:25 PM - Piet friendly intercom systems (tools) 22. 06:38 PM - Re: Cover (V Groah) 23. 06:52 PM - Re: Cover (Bill Church) 24. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: Cover (Gboothe5) 25. 07:31 PM - pietenpol in school (cutlertxs@comcast.net) 26. 07:50 PM - Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (carson) 27. 08:16 PM - Re: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (Gboothe5) 28. 08:35 PM - Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (carson) 29. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank (Gboothe5) 30. 09:53 PM - Center section - covering the cutout (Greg Bacon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:51 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank From: "carson" For the guys that have riveted there tank What type of rivets have you used? And how good is the pro seal? Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355843#355843 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:47 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Carson, the fuel tank sealant is very good, Vans sells it here http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1319450335-180-648&bro wse=misc&product=proseal I used plain steel pop-rivets. Jack DSM -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:36 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank For the guys that have riveted there tank What type of rivets have you used? And how good is the pro seal? Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355843#355843 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:48 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Try pasting this... http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1319450335-180-648&bro wse=misc&product=proseal -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:02 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Carson, the fuel tank sealant is very good, Vans sells it here http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1319450335-180-648&bro wse=misc&product=proseal I used plain steel pop-rivets. Jack DSM -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:36 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank For the guys that have riveted there tank What type of rivets have you used? And how good is the pro seal? Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355843#355843 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:30 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: so i have been using poplar From: "Kyle85" Gary, Thanks for the link. I guess there really is no question these woods are dramatically different. A lot of other good info on that site as well. -Kyle Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355847#355847 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:31 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lycoming O-235 to purchase From: "skellytown flyer" I had hoped more good info would be on for you by now. -the prices I have heard posted since-haven't sounded too out of line.as soon as I said what I did about the 235 I got to thinking it may be the O-290 that was the one that seemed to be the more expensive one to get parts for.sorry if I gave any bad info. either way if that case and crank is use-able- it sounds to me like a good deal.if the weight is in the green- that should be a heck of a power plant on a Piet.might be awful heavy with a starter but I bet they aren't that hard to prop.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355853#355853 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:42 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lycoming O-235 to purchase From: "carson" I Have done some searches and the weight should be close to the Corvair but Jerry should have a better idea I think around 250lbs but don't quote me on that it was a while ago Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355854#355854 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:43 AM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Carson, I used Avex pop rivets...had a bunch leftover from a previous project. The heads of my rivet gun and puller are concaved out so that they leave a domed head on the rivet...pretty cool. This was done according to the Zodiac 601 plans. Pro-seal worked great, but I have only run 5 gals of fuel thru the tank. Gary from Cool -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:36 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank For the guys that have riveted there tank What type of rivets have you used? And how good is the pro seal? Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355843#355843 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:39 AM PST US From: Lawrence Williams Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Guy Welcome to the list. We are always looking for ways to build Air Campers more quickly. Out-sourcing all the "Hard stuff" is a great idea and straightening out those impossible plans is a great idea, too. I agree about those Ford engine cranks....never did really see why people ever used them in the first place. Practically any other 4 cylinder car engine would be a good choice and there shouldn't be any major problems modifying them to turn a prop. I for one, am anxious to hear of your progress. Sounds like you've set a realistic deadline for yourself and have some wonderful ideas to bring the old bird into the 21st century. Can't wait to check out your paint scheme because I've been stumped trying to figure out something that would make mine look more modern. Even though you don't have any hands-on experience, you sound very knowledgeable and might consider making and selling DVD's as you progress with your assembly for those of us who don't have your vision or talents and for future builders. It would be a shame for them to build to-th- plans when there is fresh thinking and newer ideas to be taken advantage of. Looking forward to pictures of your project!! Larry ps. maybe I missed it but you didn't say where you are from. I get the feeling that it could be south somewhere. 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Hey! HEY!- You better watch yourself Danny.- I can't be associated with the original posting. It is OBVIOUS those ideas are clearly NOT the b est improvements/mods. for the Pietenpol...if they were I would have come u p with them first. The ideas posted can easily be improved, which I will do as soon as I figure out how to butt weld my aluminum fuel tank using a han dheld propane torch and SS welding wire. - DO NOT ARCHIVE Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:26 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Guy From: Ryan Mueller It's all the HUGE pictures that people post to the list choking down the Matronics server.... Ryan Do not archive Sent from my mobile device On Oct 24, 2011 7:24 AM, wrote: > ** Is anyone else getting Matronics messages slow? I'm SURE this message > went out several days ago but I'm JUST receiving it today!? > > I usually get these notes quicker but this one took a LOT longer than I > would have expected.... > > Oh....it's from Larry.......never mind. > > ------------------------------ > *From: * Lawrence Williams > *Sender: * owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > *Date: *Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:39:04 -0700 (PDT) > *To: *Pietlist > *ReplyTo: * pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: New Guy > > Welcome to the list. > > We are always looking for ways to build Air Campers more quickly. > Out-sourcing all the "Hard stuff" is a great idea and straightening out > those impossible plans is a great idea, too. I agree about those Ford engine > cranks....never did really see why people ever used them in the first place. > Practically any other 4 cylinder car engine would be a good choice and there > shouldn't be any major problems modifying them to turn a prop. > > I for one, am anxious to hear of your progress. Sounds like you've set a > realistic deadline for yourself and have some wonderful ideas to bring the > old bird into the 21st century. Can't wait to check out your paint scheme > because I've been stumped trying to figure out something that would make > mine look more modern. > > Even though you don't have any hands-on experience, you sound very > knowledgeable and might consider making and selling DVD's as you progress > with your assembly for those of us who don't have your vision or talents and > for future builders. It would be a shame for them to build to-th- plans when > there is fresh thinking and newer ideas to be taken advantage of. > > Looking forward to pictures of your project!! > > Larry > > ps. maybe I missed it but you didn't say where you are from. I get the > feeling that it could be south somewhere. Belize, perhaps??? > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:57:38 AM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA866 sets skydive record I'm guessing your w&b was a little off. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Charvet Sent: Oct 23, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA866 sets skydive record A cute photoshopped picture of our young eagles program last weekend Do not archive Ben Charvet Titusville Fl Subject: EAA866 sets skydive record EAA866 sets 8 jumper skydive record from antique aeroplane over Dunn Airpark. Roger Scruggs aerialcam@tvphotog.com www.tvphotog.com www.flickr.com/av8rtv www.youtube.com/tvphotogcom www.youtube.com/surf4tv 321 795-6545 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:25:57 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Hey Gary, How about an update photo of your covering job on your Piet? Thanks, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:27 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank The wing tank pictures I have seen posted, it appears that the inside baffl es and outer end "rib" pieces have flanges bent on both the ends and the bo ttom. If one set of bends are made across the grain, then the other set of bends on that same piece would be with the grain. (yes?) I assume the material was oriented so that all bends were diagonal to the g rain. Is this correct?--- Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:15:18 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA866 sets skydive record Young eagles don't weigh much.... On 10/24/2011 2:54 PM, Jim Ash wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash > > I'm guessing your w&b was a little off. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Charvet > Sent: Oct 23, 2011 3:48 PM > To: Pietenpol list > Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA866 sets skydive record > > > A cute photoshopped picture of our young eagles program last weekend > > Do not archive > > Ben Charvet > Titusville Fl > > > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:39:04 -0400 > Subject: EAA866 sets skydive record > EAA866 sets 8 jumper skydive record from antique aeroplane over Dunn Airpark. > > > Roger Scruggs > aerialcam@tvphotog.com > www.tvphotog.com > www.flickr.com/av8rtv > www.youtube.com/tvphotogcom > www.youtube.com/surf4tv > 321 795-6545 > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:33:28 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Why would you assume that? Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank The wing tank pictures I have seen posted, it appears that the inside baffles and outer end "rib" pieces have flanges bent on both the ends and the bottom. If one set of bends are made across the grain, then the other set of bends on that same piece would be with the grain. (yes?) I assume the material was oriented so that all bends were diagonal to the grain. Is this correct? Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:30 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cover Ah-ha! You tried to catch me, Jim! I almost included paint pictures Gary from Cool From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Hey Gary, How about an update photo of your covering job on your Piet? Thanks, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:59 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cover Gary its looking really good; why not the paint pictures? I would certainly never copy your paint scheme unlike some others! Kinda looks like you are going for the German WW1 look with those green square (ekco bond) outlines. Glad to see you have trained your son so well; since he lives so close to me maybe he can help me cover some this winter? How about borrowing some 1/8" clecos from you when we meet for Patrick and Mary for lunch? I need about 15 if you have that many to spare for a month. Thanks, Jim ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:54 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cover Jim =93 got clecos up the wazoo!! Don=99t be afraid to remind me as we get closer to the date Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cover Gary its looking really good; why not the paint pictures? I would certainly never copy your paint scheme unlike some others! Kinda looks like you are going for the German WW1 look with those green square (ekco bond) outlines. Glad to see you have trained your son so well; since he lives so close to me maybe he can help me cover some this winter? How about borrowing some 1/8" clecos from you when we meet for Patrick and Mary for lunch? I need about 15 if you have that many to spare for a month. Thanks, Jim ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:44 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank From: "Bill Church" Sometimes... no, A LOT of times it is necessary to have bends that are across the grain and also with the grain. When bends are made parallel to the grain, a larger radius needs to be used to avoid over-stressing the metal (cracking). That's life. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355912#355912 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet friendly intercom systems From: "tools" Having a difficult time with comms in the Piet. Is there a simple PTT intercom system available? They all seem to be VOX only until you get to the five hundred buck range. Would also like independently adjustable volume. Thanks, Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355916#355916 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:42 PM PST US From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cover Hey you two=2C gary and Jim=2C Where are you both in your progress. I have not been watching the list as closely as I should and am out of the loop. Sounds like paint has been put on. GREAT! I would like to hear about and see the progress shots. We have been doing almost nothing this fall. Hope to get busy come early w inter. Want to fly next spring. Wish us luck=2C we will need it=2C no han ger in sight yet. Vic N414MV Tulare Ca. do not archive From: gboothe5@comcast.net Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cover Jim ' got clecos up the wazoo!! Don=92t be afraid to remind me as we get closer to the date=85 Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer Sent: Monday=2C October 24=2C 2011 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cover Gary its looking really good=3B why not the paint pictures? I would certain ly never copy your paint scheme unlike some others! Kinda looks like you are going for the German WW1 look with those green squ are (ekco bond) outlines. Glad to see you have trained your son so well=3B since he lives so close to me maybe he can help me cover some this winter? How about borrowing some 1/8" clecos from you when we meet for Patrick and Mary for lunch? I need about 15 if you have that many to spare for a month. Thanks=2C Jim http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics .comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:03 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cover From: "Bill Church" That was close, Gary. You almost let slip your plan for a black and yellow paint scheme. BC do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355921#355921 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:59 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cover No. Yellow and Black...oops! Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:49 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cover That was close, Gary. You almost let slip your plan for a black and yellow paint scheme. BC do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355921#355921 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:44 PM PST US From: cutlertxs@comcast.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: pietenpol in school I'm a middle school science teacher that is having one of my science classe s building a Pietenpol.=C2- I was just featured in our community's newspa per.=C2- Here's a link to see what we're doing.=C2- http://www.theolymp ian.com/2011/10/24/1849966/physics-fanaticism-taking-flight.html Scott ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:38 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank From: "carson" Hay Jack have you made inspection holes through the top like Gary to get the sealant in? Gary are those covers screwed on and how have you sealed underneath? I think I am going to start again and rivet the tank Thanks Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355926#355926 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:26 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Carson, I first made 'backer plates' to receive sheet metal screws, but the covers are sealed and held in place with the screws. Inner tank repairs will require screw removal, then working the covers loose from the sealant...sorta like on a Mooney. Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Hay Jack have you made inspection holes through the top like Gary to get the sealant in? Gary are those covers screwed on and how have you sealed underneath? I think I am going to start again and rivet the tank Thanks Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355926#355926 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:10 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank From: "carson" Thanks Gary One more question did you make the backer plates thick enough so the screws did not go all the way through? carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355928#355928 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:43 PM PST US From: "Gboothe5" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Backer plates are only .040. Screws are set in sealant, too. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:33 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending 5052 Fuel Tank Thanks Gary One more question did you make the backer plates thick enough so the screws did not go all the way through? carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355928#355928 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:53:22 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section - covering the cutout From: Greg Bacon Hello Everyone, The Mountain Piet center section is ready for covering, see pic attached. Can someone give me some advice on the best way to cover the cutout? By the way, the wing panel is 95% varnished and almost ready for covering as well. My goal is to fly Mountain Piet sometime this Winter. Should make it to Brodhead in 2012. 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