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0. 06:49 AM - PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years Strong!! (Matt Dralle)
1. 02:11 PM - Re: Pietenpol Air Camper: One Person Injured In Plane Crash (Peter Bichier)
2. 02:24 PM - Re: Pietenpol (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
3. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Km Heide and Seek (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
4. 02:29 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol Air Camper: One Person Injured In Plane Crash (Jack Phillips)
5. 04:12 PM - Anyone need some ash? (dgaldrich)
6. 05:57 PM - Getting in a few last flights before it's too cold (shad bell)
7. 06:16 PM - Re: Getting in a few last flights before it's too cold (kevinpurtee)
8. 06:24 PM - Matronics Fund Raising Drive (kevinpurtee)
9. 06:26 PM - Re: Getting in a few last flights before it's too cold (Jason Holmes)
10. 06:36 PM - Re: Matronics Fund Raising Drive (Ryan Mueller)
11. 06:43 PM - A Nice Evening in Titusville FL with Ben & Carol Charvet (kevinpurtee)
12. 06:53 PM - Re: Re: Getting in a few last flights before it's too cold (Jack Phillips)
13. 07:31 PM - As luck would have it and so the rant is now early but the rant nonetheless (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
14. 08:11 PM - Re: As luck would have it and so the rant is now early but the rant nonetheless (gboothe5@comcast.net)
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Subject: | PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years |
Strong!!
Dear Listers,
This year marks 21 years of the Email Lists and Forums at Matronics! I've been
running these forums for nearly half my life! I've made some great friends over
the years and had countless email and personal conversations with builders
about aircraft building and flying. What a great community of people! The advice,
support, and friendship has be invaluable over the years.
To support the continued operation and upgrade of the List servers, each November
I hold a PBS-like fund raiser. It is solely through the Contributions of List
members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising
to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing
banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web
site pages including:
* Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com
* Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search
* Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
* Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com
You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience
that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - airplanes!
During the month of November, I will be sending out List messages every couple
of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular
messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year we've got another terrific line up of free gifts to go along
with the various Contribution levels. Many of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists
and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
* Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
* Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, and Andy for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-8 Builder (and Rebuilder) and Flyer
RV-6 Rebuilder and Flyer
RV-4 Builder
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Air Camper: One Person Injured In Plane |
Crash
Sad news for Pietenpol drivers indeed...
I'm glad I'm in the part of OH where trees are not very common except when I fly
by the rivers...
I guess no one then knows this piet? It would be interesting to know what engine
he has (couldn't see anything from the pictures).
As for the "landing" options other than abort the take off sooner, I can't see
much other options than hit the trees... My Dad crashed and survived "landing"
an Piper Apache in the Amazon and he told me he aimed between two big trees and
tried to maintain his attitude until the end... (but that's another story).
I'm curious on the shoulder harness on a Piet; from where are they mounted, the
one I fly doesn't and I look into it, but doesn't seem to have much options on
where to mount them unless you rip the fuselage skin of.
Indeed I hope Ronald is as lucky as my Dad!
just about to hop on a Piet!
safe flying!
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560 Dreamer
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Can someone please advise if Ryan Mueller actually built a pietenpol?
KMHeide
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Subject: | Re: Km Heide and Seek |
Typical know-it-all aviator who think his shit does not stink! Let me guess...
you actually built a pietenpol?
You are one o the several reason s people onth is list never try to write in with
questions or seek advice! Arrogant, condesending, and disrespectful so called
avaitors like you make is so enjoyable for others...
Spew away... I for one likes to enjoy the stupidity you spew as the "expert" in
Pietenpols!
KMHeide
Do Archive!
--- On Mon, 10/31/11, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Km Heide and Seek
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, October 31, 2011, 10:18 PM
> I think someone's a f*cktard (woops,
> did I say that out loud)
> Ryan
> do not archive (yes, this tag is your
> friend,guaranteed)
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> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011
> at 7:33 PM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
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> --> Pietenpol-List message
> posted by: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
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> attempt to fly that, you are wrong. The Piet that was
> heaviest on the tail of our sample group at Brodhead was a
> full 200lbs lighter on the tail than yours. Either your math
> is wrong, or you need to throw something overboard...
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Air Camper: One Person Injured In Plane |
Crash
According to the FAA registry:
Check for printing
N-number : N486LB
Aircraft Serial Number : 2
Aircraft Manufacturer : BROCHETTI LOUIS
Model : PIETENPOL AIRCAMPER
Engine Manufacturer : CONT MOTOR
Model : A&C75 SERIES
Aircraft Year : 1990
Owner Name : CATCHPOLE RONALD D
Owner Address : 8457 KING GRAVES RD NE
WARREN, OH, 44484-1112
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : 21-Apr-2010
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental
Approved Operations : Amateur Built
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Bichier
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Air Camper: One Person Injured In
Plane Crash
<pbichie@UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
Sad news for Pietenpol drivers indeed...
I'm glad I'm in the part of OH where trees are not very common except when I
fly by the rivers...
I guess no one then knows this piet? It would be interesting to know what
engine he has (couldn't see anything from the pictures).
As for the "landing" options other than abort the take off sooner, I can't
see much other options than hit the trees... My Dad crashed and survived
"landing" an Piper Apache in the Amazon and he told me he aimed between two
big trees and tried to maintain his attitude until the end... (but that's
another story).
I'm curious on the shoulder harness on a Piet; from where are they mounted,
the one I fly doesn't and I look into it, but doesn't seem to have much
options on where to mount them unless you rip the fuselage skin of.
Indeed I hope Ronald is as lucky as my Dad!
just about to hop on a Piet!
safe flying!
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560 Dreamer
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356584#356584
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Subject: | Anyone need some ash? |
Hi folks
I just KNOW someone will make something from the subject but seriously, I have
a good source of ash for those who need it for the cross members and/or engine
logs. I can deliver to Sun n Fun this spring for free, most anywhere in FL for
the same, or the cost of UPS/USPS/Fedex anywhere. Contact me off line with
your needs.
Dave Aldrich
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Subject: | Getting in a few last flights before it's too cold |
I got about an hr on the piet today.- It was in the mid 50's and just a b
it of a breeze, clear and dusty from the harvesters.- The midwest is an a
wsome place to fly this time of year, you can land in about 90% of the area
under you, it is mostly flat cut off fields.- I am shooting to break the
300hr mark on 92GB before putting it up for the winter, 2.5 hrs to go.-
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Shad
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Subject: | Re: Getting in a few last flights before it's too cold |
Ya know, Shad, it's getting cold in Austin, too. Almost unbearable. I'm going
to gut it out on Saturday, though. Supposed to be in the upper 70s but we'll
fly anyway.
I'll have to put on jeans instead of shorts.
Congratulations on 300 hours! You and Cool Gary have a really nice airplane.
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Matronics Fund Raising Drive |
I made enough of a donation to get a new kneeboard. Need one for the Piet. Money
well spent. In addition to being informative, this forum is pure entertainment.
Give if you can.
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Getting in a few last flights before it's too cold |
Shad,
I'll keep my eye out for you as I get some time in on Bill's Champ Saturday
morning at Centerburg. The weather forecast looks good (may be a little
cold though).
Good luck on the 300 hours.
Jason Holmes
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 8:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Getting in a few last flights before it's too cold
I got about an hr on the piet today. It was in the mid 50's and just a bit
of a breeze, clear and dusty from the harvesters. The midwest is an awsome
place to fly this time of year, you can land in about 90% of the area under
you, it is mostly flat cut off fields. I am shooting to break the 300hr
mark on 92GB before putting it up for the winter, 2.5 hrs to go.
Shad
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Subject: | Re: Matronics Fund Raising Drive |
I sent mine in....enough to get the W&B Handbook....which I am sending to
Ken...
Ryan
do not archive
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:21 PM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>wrote:
> kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
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> I made enough of a donation to get a new kneeboard. Need one for the
> Piet. Money well spent. In addition to being informative, this forum is
> pure entertainment. Give if you can.
>
> do not archive
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> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | A Nice Evening in Titusville FL with Ben & Carol Charvet |
Got to spend a very pleasant evening with Ben Charvet and his lovely wife, Carol.
Ben's got a beautiful red & cream piet which he flies a lot. Really nice!
He's also got a Model A truck project which is truly cool. Thanks for letting
me stop by, guys!
Jerry Dotson was nice enough to check in with me after my plea for Piet visits
in Florida. He's 6 hours away so we'll make that happen another time. I really
appreciate him calling. He's in the panhandle so I'm hoping he'll let us
stop by when we finally make the trip to Sun & Fun.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | Re: Getting in a few last flights before it's too |
cold
Yes they do. I really enjoyed getting to fly my first Corvair powered
Pietenpol at Brodhead this year, thanks to Shad and Gary. Now I need to get
up in a Model A powered version.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 9:14 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Getting in a few last flights before it's too
cold
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Ya know, Shad, it's getting cold in Austin, too. Almost unbearable. I'm
going to gut it out on Saturday, though. Supposed to be in the upper 70s
but we'll fly anyway.
I'll have to put on jeans instead of shorts.
Congratulations on 300 hours! You and Cool Gary have a really nice
airplane.
do not archive
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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Subject: | As luck would have it and so the rant is now early but |
the rant nonetheless
Yes its true, as Luck would have it and early this year down trodden and
out of work I decided to try my luck at magnanimous gestures of proactive yes
its true lawn care. I got the old tractor battery charged up drove the
cart down to the brush pile and warmed up the tractor I had just repaired.
Full scale deck rebuild, hangar style, zerks and all. Sears doesn't put them
in so you blow out mower spindles when the bearings go away. Not this guy
juss too dam smart for the old Sears dry bearing trick.
So smart as I am, I got the rebuilt out fueled her up with the special
blend of my secret treated, naturalized and stabilized fuel, yes sir I did
that and proud to tell ya bout it. I got me a good cut going and drover over
the leaves on the ground reducing the rake out and blower time. I am all
over this. The next morning at 0810 or there about's I noticed the white stuff
beginning to appear and more and more appeared until the grass became
white and the leaves mulched an driven down into the depths of the rhizomes and
tillers of the fescue, I was doing it and without might I say without the
encouraging tone of my lovely life partner and voice of all knowledge, yes
the Princess of the Nile and she who shall not be denied.
There we were all ground up the lawn white with yes the noreaster snow of
the east coast whopper wet snow storm in full force. Life is good and the
lawn officially dead, nothing could have survived that bit of weather, not
even the trees and branches fallen due to the storm. But yet well before the
official beginning of Buildapalooza 2011 and 12. some how being out of work
gives buildapalooza much less meaning but still a viable on my calendar
and no longer the holiday of the troll as in a real hangar, no more cellar
dweller for me.
Paying for the hangar well that plan has yet to experience some additional
growth and development issues that need to be ironed out. Not withstanding
though, here we are on the cusp of Buildapalooza and ding dong the yard is
dead ding done the stinkin yard is dead, hi ho the merry O the stinking
yard is dead. But now since all the leaves have yet to fall it looks like we
have another tractor day of leaf grinding to continue the weed and weed
growth cycle.
It just seems too early for the dead yard rant but its here and so here is
the annual dead yard rant with 4 part harmony and feeling. Ding dong the
yard is dead, ding dong the stinkin yard is dead now back to Lancaster
Aeroplan Works for more building, gluing and rebuilding septin it gets cold in
there and the ceiling is next , no sense trying to heat the upper space and
letting the heat go away. So tarp city here we come in preparation for you
guessed it Buildapalooza 2011- 2012. I wonder if I'll actually get anything
accomplished. The problem with having a shop and tools there is so much
other stuff you can do and make its just amazing how quickly the hours of
light and warmth seem to evaporate in the mangar that's short for man hangar.
Okay got to keep focused flying machines. Oh yes and with the gas grill 2
fridges filled with adult and adulterated beverage its no big thing to throw
a dog or 3 on the grill for lunch. If I ever get to building life will
return to good and accomplishments abound but for now the stinkin yard is
dead! Thanks be to snow........and early storms. note to self rebuild carb on
snowblower
John
Go in peace the rant has ended!
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Subject: | Re: As luck would have it and so the rant is now early |
but the rant nonetheless
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