Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 11/13/11


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     0. 12:34 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 08:32 AM - Re: "Flea" Vet's day (shad bell)
     2. 12:37 PM - Re: I did it! (Timothy Willis)
     3. 01:56 PM - Re: How to contact a local Piet? (j_dunavin)
     4. 05:20 PM - Wing rib question (John Theron)
     5. 05:30 PM - Re: Wing rib question (gboothe5@comcast.net)
     6. 05:51 PM - Re: Wing rib question (Dave Millikan)
     7. 06:10 PM - Re: Wing rib question (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
     8. 06:14 PM - Re: Wing rib question (Gary Boothe)
     9. 06:30 PM - Re: "Flea" Vet's day (flea)
    10. 06:39 PM - Re: Wing rib question (Greg Cardinal)
    11. 06:47 PM - Wing rib profile questions (j_dunavin)
    12. 07:08 PM - Re: Wing rib question (Dan Yocum)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:34:22 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
    in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 08:32:12 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: "Flea" Vet's day
    Flea, You might know a guy I work with.- He was a B-52 mech, then crew ch ief I believe, and about that time period at Minot.- His name is Terry We llman.- He stayed in for 20 then retired at went to the airlines.- - Shad --- On Sat, 11/12/11, flea <jimgriggs@yahoo.com> wrote: From: flea <jimgriggs@yahoo.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day USAF 89-92 Airframe structural repair, corrosion control. Minot AFB, Minot ND. B-52H KC-135A/R. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357657#357657 le, List Admin. le, List Admin.


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    Time: 12:37:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: I did it!
    From: Timothy Willis <timwillis01@gmail.com>
    Congratulations, Shad. Good for you. Tim in central TX


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    Time: 01:56:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: How to contact a local Piet?
    From: "j_dunavin" <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
    Finally made it over to see Tim and his Piet! Great guy and it sure was nice of him to let me sit in his aircraft and ask a bunch of questions. I'm glad I got to sit in one finally. At first i didn't realize that his wing is 2" taller than the plans. I guess I'm going to have to do the same for ours. I also liked his raised turtle deck. Next time I'm bringing my dad... I'm not so sure he'll be able to get in and out very easily. Anyway i sure am glad i now know someone locally who has a piet whom we can go to for help. Thanks guys! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357767#357767


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    Time: 05:20:57 PM PST US
    From: John Theron <johnnysdrop@googlemail.com>
    Subject: Wing rib question
    Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre bent it anyway? John


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    Time: 05:30:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing rib question
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
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    Time: 05:51:02 PM PST US
    From: Dave Millikan <n11dmx@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing rib question
    John, Just finished my r wing., all my ribs are done. I made matching 2 x 4 blocks with the curve ,soaked the ACS cap strips in w ater- over night and then clamped them in the "molds" -for 24 hrs worke d fine. Also took out the under camber (a pain to cover.) I made an outline of the rib on a flat table and used small blocks on both sides of the cap strip here and there. Put the outside blocks on the line , butspace the inside block about 1/8 ic h off the inside line. Take apart these spring loaded clothespins and you h ave nice little wedges this will accomadate small variations in cap strip t hickness. Dave Millikan--- Starduster Too N11DM and Pete- NX1QZ --- On Mon, 11/14/11, John Theron <johnnysdrop@googlemail.com> wrote: From: John Theron <johnnysdrop@googlemail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre-bent it anyway? John


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    Time: 06:10:22 PM PST US
    From: johnwoods@westnet.com.au
    Subject: Re: Wing rib question
    Dave wrote: "Also took out the under camber (a pain to cover.)" Now you have a different aerofoil with different stall, centre of lift, etc. JohnW Perth Australia


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    Time: 06:14:54 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Wing rib question
    John, I found no need to pre-bend the lower piece. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Theron Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:18 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre bent it anyway? John


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    Time: 06:30:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: "Flea" Vet's day
    From: "flea" <jimgriggs@yahoo.com>
    I don't know, it was a long time ago, but maybe. I was 5 fms sheetmetal shop. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357782#357782


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    Time: 06:39:00 PM PST US
    From: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Wing rib question
    Hi John, The ribs on NX18235 were built using spruce. I didn't pre-bend either the upper or lower capstrips. They went directly from the boiling water into the rib jig. I allowed the capstrips to dry and cool before installing the gussets using Aerolite. This worked very well for me. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: John Theron To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre bent it anyway? John


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    Time: 06:47:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Wing rib profile questions
    From: "j_dunavin" <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
    I'm ready to make my wing rib jig and would like to use the 1:1 print that we ordered with the plans. I would like to take a razor, cut it out, and then trace around it for the jig. However I got to looking at the plans and then I started taking measurements on the 1:1 drawing, and it does not seem to match. Should i not worry about it? Should i draw the rib on my jig, as per the plans? Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357786#357786


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    Time: 07:08:42 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Wing rib question
    Hi John, Good to hear from you - I hope you're doing well. I'm building a Piet with a GA30-612 airfoil to go along with N8031 and I found that I have to pre-bend the bottom capstrip to make it fit in the jig. Many have said this is not the case with the FC-10 airfoil. Depending on how many blocks you have (the more, the better), you may be able to stick it right into the jig like Greg did. Cheers! Dan On 11/13/2011 07:17 PM, John Theron wrote: > Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of > the front spar or have pre bent it anyway? > John > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."




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