---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/13/11: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:34 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! (Matt Dralle) 1. 08:32 AM - Re: "Flea" Vet's day (shad bell) 2. 12:37 PM - Re: I did it! (Timothy Willis) 3. 01:56 PM - Re: How to contact a local Piet? (j_dunavin) 4. 05:20 PM - Wing rib question (John Theron) 5. 05:30 PM - Re: Wing rib question (gboothe5@comcast.net) 6. 05:51 PM - Re: Wing rib question (Dave Millikan) 7. 06:10 PM - Re: Wing rib question (johnwoods@westnet.com.au) 8. 06:14 PM - Re: Wing rib question (Gary Boothe) 9. 06:30 PM - Re: "Flea" Vet's day (flea) 10. 06:39 PM - Re: Wing rib question (Greg Cardinal) 11. 06:47 PM - Wing rib profile questions (j_dunavin) 12. 07:08 PM - Re: Wing rib question (Dan Yocum) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:22 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. 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Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:12 AM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "Flea" Vet's day Flea, You might know a guy I work with.- He was a B-52 mech, then crew ch ief I believe, and about that time period at Minot.- His name is Terry We llman.- He stayed in for 20 then retired at went to the airlines.- - Shad --- On Sat, 11/12/11, flea wrote: From: flea Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vet's day USAF 89-92 Airframe structural repair, corrosion control. Minot AFB, Minot ND. B-52H KC-135A/R. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357657#357657 le, List Admin. le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:37:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I did it! From: Timothy Willis Congratulations, Shad. Good for you. Tim in central TX ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:56:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to contact a local Piet? From: "j_dunavin" Finally made it over to see Tim and his Piet! Great guy and it sure was nice of him to let me sit in his aircraft and ask a bunch of questions. I'm glad I got to sit in one finally. At first i didn't realize that his wing is 2" taller than the plans. I guess I'm going to have to do the same for ours. I also liked his raised turtle deck. Next time I'm bringing my dad... I'm not so sure he'll be able to get in and out very easily. Anyway i sure am glad i now know someone locally who has a piet whom we can go to for help. Thanks guys! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357767#357767 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:57 PM PST US From: John Theron Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre bent it anyway? John ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question From: gboothe5@comcast.net Tm8uIA0KU2VudCBvbiB0aGUgU3ByaW50riBOb3cgTmV0d29yayBmcm9tIG15IEJsYWNrQmVycnmu DQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9tOiBKb2huIFRoZXJvbiA8am9obm55 c2Ryb3BAZ29vZ2xlbWFpbC5jb20+DQpTZW5kZXI6IG93bmVyLXBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0LXNlcnZl ckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tDQpEYXRlOiBNb24sIDE0IE5vdiAyMDExIDAxOjE3OjQ0IA0KVG86IDxw aWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPg0KUmVwbHktVG86IHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1h dHJvbmljcy5jb21TdWJqZWN0OiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlzdDogV2luZyByaWIgcXVlc3Rpb24NCg0K SGFzIGFueW9uZSBoYWQgY2F1c2UgdG8gcHJlIGJlbmQgdGhlIGxvd2VyIHdpbmcgcmliIHNlY3Rp b24gZm9yd2FyZCBvZiB0aGUNCmZyb250IHNwYXIgb3IgaGF2ZSBwcmUgYmVudCBpdCBhbnl3YXk/ DQpKb2huDQoNCg= ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:02 PM PST US From: Dave Millikan Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question John, Just finished my r wing., all my ribs are done. I made matching 2 x 4 blocks with the curve ,soaked the ACS cap strips in w ater- over night and then clamped them in the "molds" -for 24 hrs worke d fine. Also took out the under camber (a pain to cover.) I made an outline of the rib on a flat table and used small blocks on both sides of the cap strip here and there. Put the outside blocks on the line , butspace the inside block about 1/8 ic h off the inside line. Take apart these spring loaded clothespins and you h ave nice little wedges this will accomadate small variations in cap strip t hickness. Dave Millikan--- Starduster Too N11DM and Pete- NX1QZ --- On Mon, 11/14/11, John Theron wrote: From: John Theron Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre-bent it anyway? John ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:22 PM PST US From: johnwoods@westnet.com.au Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Dave wrote: "Also took out the under camber (a pain to cover.)" Now you have a different aerofoil with different stall, centre of lift, etc. JohnW Perth Australia ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:54 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question John, I found no need to pre-bend the lower piece. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Theron Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:18 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre bent it anyway? John ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: "Flea" Vet's day From: "flea" I don't know, it was a long time ago, but maybe. I was 5 fms sheetmetal shop. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357782#357782 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:00 PM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Hi John, The ribs on NX18235 were built using spruce. I didn't pre-bend either the upper or lower capstrips. They went directly from the boiling water into the rib jig. I allowed the capstrips to dry and cool before installing the gussets using Aerolite. This worked very well for me. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: John Theron To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of the front spar or have pre bent it anyway? John ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib profile questions From: "j_dunavin" I'm ready to make my wing rib jig and would like to use the 1:1 print that we ordered with the plans. I would like to take a razor, cut it out, and then trace around it for the jig. However I got to looking at the plans and then I started taking measurements on the 1:1 drawing, and it does not seem to match. Should i not worry about it? Should i draw the rib on my jig, as per the plans? Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357786#357786 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:42 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing rib question Hi John, Good to hear from you - I hope you're doing well. I'm building a Piet with a GA30-612 airfoil to go along with N8031 and I found that I have to pre-bend the bottom capstrip to make it fit in the jig. Many have said this is not the case with the FC-10 airfoil. Depending on how many blocks you have (the more, the better), you may be able to stick it right into the jig like Greg did. Cheers! Dan On 11/13/2011 07:17 PM, John Theron wrote: > Has anyone had cause to pre bend the lower wing rib section forward of > the front spar or have pre bent it anyway? > John > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.