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0. 09:25 AM - Make Sure You're Listed -- List of Contributors Published Dec 1! (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:38 AM - Re: Corvair College 21 (Don Emch)
2. 06:12 AM - Re: New members and the urge to moderate the list (TOM STINEMETZE)
3. 07:27 AM - flying history (skellytown flyer)
4. 08:31 AM - Re: flying history (Michael Perez)
5. 09:12 AM - Re: Aluminum Head (womenfly2)
6. 10:25 AM - Re: Aluminum Head (Brett Phillips)
7. 11:23 AM - Re: Aluminum Head (Brett Phillips)
8. 12:04 PM - Re: New members and the urge to moderate the list (kevinpurtee)
9. 12:08 PM - Re: New home (kevinpurtee)
10. 12:34 PM - Re: Aluminum Head (899PM)
11. 12:57 PM - Re: Aluminum Head (womenfly2)
12. 01:19 PM - Re: Aluminum Head (bender)
13. 01:39 PM - Re: Aluminum Head (Brett Phillips)
14. 01:45 PM - Re: Aluminum Head (Brett Phillips)
15. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: Aluminum Head (helspersew@aol.com)
16. 03:41 PM - Re: Aluminum Head (dgaldrich)
17. 05:56 PM - Aluminum head (Lawrence Williams)
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| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed -- List of Contributors Published |
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair College 21 |
"...Most of you do not know me. I was subsribed to this list a few years ago, but
the chatter drove me away. I'm now back..."
Whew...I'd take the chatter any day over a "gasket blowing" response like the above.
This group is a little different than most of the groups out there. A
lot of these folks get the opportunity to meet face to face. This tends to keep
the long timers a little more civil. Besides we're all one "Pietple".
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: New members and the urge to moderate the list |
Hey! Who you callin' a "Senior" you...you.. Whippersnapper you. No that
probably should be... you Cranksnapper you.
Stinemetze
And the most thankful of Thanksgivings to all of you - especially Axel and
his better half.
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>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 11/20/2011 10:05 PM >>>
He also pointed out that any moderating that gets done usually occurs from
one of the informal "senior" members. If you relax, read the posts, spend
some time in the archives and mind your business, you'll figure out who
those people are. If you haven't been on the list for several years
you're probably not one of them.
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Well it's pre- Piet but I sure liked it.
http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/005/005k.html
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| Subject: | Re: flying history |
Great clip! Love the vintage footage like that.
I came across this DVD, Victory By Air, in Walmart for $5.00. It is the best archival
DVD I have seen. 95% of the entire DVD is actual footage. I just watched
some of it again over the weekend. (I've had it about a year.)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003R0G4PA/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=13392082529&ref=pd_sl_1ki9tx6syn_e
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
Keri Ann is right on. The Winfield repros seem to have one of the best combustion
chamber designs of the available high compression heads. The fact that they
are available in Aluminum from Red's headers and Sacramento Vintage Ford makes
them a logical choice for Ford powered Piets. Be careful about your choice
of compression ratio though, too much will cause detonation which quickly destroys
babbitt. Most of the car guys agree that 6:1 works the best for relatively
stock engines. I believe the Winfield heads from Sacramento Vintage Ford
can be machined to reduce the compression ratio in case Red's headers is out
of stock.
http://www.vintageford.com/sect_search.cfm?Line=4B&Category=Engine-%20Heads
Having said all that, I don't own one of these heads (wish I did though). The
engine I'm building up will use the Dan Price head that came with the project.
I also have a Dick McKee head from the mid '80's that will likely remain a landlubber
due to a spotty reputation.
Best Regards,
Brett Phillips
Strasburg, VA
NX311GP
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
Here's a thread from Fordbarn with some other sources:
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52395
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| Subject: | Re: New members and the urge to moderate the list |
Now now, Tom. Moderation.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well, my friend.
Shelley & Kevin
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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I see a buncha people working carrying stuff, Rick. Who's taking the pics???
[Wink]
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
Red's has these cast a couple times a year to meet demand. I waited several months
for a 7:1. I am running inserted mains and rods. Because my block had been
decked a couple times in its life, I have piston protrusion of about .040". I
had to machine piston clearance in my head to accommodate the piston protrusion
and the torqued head gasket thickness. I had several conversations with Larry
Brumfield and he was very adamant about a resultant squish area of about .040"-.060".
I machined clearance to result in a squish of .050", which yields a
CR of 6.7:1(which is exactly what the Funk heads were). My engine ran like the
proverbial "swiss watch" prior to the fiber cam gear self destructing.
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
My Model-A used a Dan Price 6:1 Aluminum head. Actual HP was 59 and turning an
Ash prop of 82" Dia. x 42 P with a 6 inch wide blade chord @ 1800 RPM in flight,
speed 73-MPH.
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
My engine ran like the proverbial "swiss watch" prior to the fiber cam gear self
destructing.
can you elaborate.. ?
i thought the fiber gears were OK... was there a problem ?
or the gear just broke ?
jeff in louisville.... close to running my A
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
Keri Ann: I'd like to chat with you some time about the prop you were using.
I also have some other questions if you have time.
Jeff: Do a search on the Fordbarn site for timing gears, and you will find that
many folks in the car hobby are known to carry a spare cam gear on long trips.
I have gathered that some reproduction fiber gears are not made to the same
standards that Ford used. Aluminum and Bronze gears are available from several
sources. They may be a little noisier though. I have an aluminum gear from
Bratton's.
Brett
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
Papa Mike:
Those Funk fellows were pretty slick, so I'm sure they had it pretty well figured
out. There are several guys who build Model A's for race cars that say a babbitted
engine can be built to reliably run over 8:1 compression. They say that
the key is to be careful with ignition timing and avoid any situation where
the engine pings or detonates. How was/is your engine timed? I've heard several
different settings suggested, anywhere from 28 to 32 degrees BTDC.
Brett
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
How do you know it was in fact 59 HP? 82 inches seems very long. What was t
he ground clearance?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: womenfly2 <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 2:57 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Head
My Model-A used a Dan Price 6:1 Aluminum head. Actual HP was 59 and turning
an
sh prop of 82" Dia. x 42 P with a 6 inch wide blade chord @ 1800 RPM in fli
ght,
peed 73-MPH.
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Head |
Disclaimer: I have no idea about Model A's.
Others have suggested this supplier but the web site shows that the latest production
run has been sold out. Might be worth a call...
http://www.secretsofspeed.com/LION.htm
Dave Aldrich
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Fred-
why in the world would you want an aluminum head? Get a good iron head (the heavier
the better) and you won't be perpetually fighting a tail-heavy aeroplane.
Larry
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