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     0. 12:11 AM - Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 02:03 AM - Hi I'm new here. (Matthijs de Groot)
     2. 06:00 AM - Re: Re: bird strike (Jeff Wilson)
     3. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: bird strike (Greg Bacon)
     4. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: bird strike (Jim Markle)
     5. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: bird strike (Scott Knowlton)
     6. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: bird strike (C N Campbell)
     7. 10:22 AM - Re: Hi I'm new here. (helspersew@aol.com)
     8. 02:37 PM - Re: Hi I'm new here. (Hans Van Der Voort)
     9. 03:04 PM - Re: Hi I'm new here. (Ryan Mueller)
    10. 04:01 PM - Ironing problem (BYD)
    11. 04:30 PM - Re: Ironing problem (V Groah)
    12. 05:00 PM - Re: Ironing problem (Gboothe5)
    13. 05:15 PM - Re: Ironing problem (C N Campbell)
    14. 06:02 PM - Re: Ironing problem (Jerry Dotson)
    15. 06:30 PM - first run (bender)
    16. 06:50 PM - Re: first run (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    17. 06:51 PM - Re: first run (Jack Phillips)
    18. 07:02 PM - Re: Hi I'm new here. (K5YAC)
    19. 07:21 PM - Re: Ironing problem (kevinpurtee)
    20. 07:23 PM - Re: first run (Jim Boyer)
    21. 07:32 PM - Re: Ironing problem (BYD)
    22. 07:37 PM - Re: first run (Gene Rambo)
    23. 07:38 PM - Re: first run (BYD)
    24. 07:38 PM - Congrats (John Recine)
    25. 08:37 PM - Re: first run (aerocarjake)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind... | 
      
      
      Dear Listers,
      
      There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser.  Over the last
      few weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the
      Lists have meant to them.  I have included some of them below.  Please read over
      the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support
      and camaraderie you have found here.  
      
      We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions.  I really
      want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it
      take resources.  Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep
      the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that
      keeps things going.  Please make a Contribution today.
      
      If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time
      to do it!
      
      Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution
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      Or, drop a check in the mail:
      
      	Matronics / Matt Dralle
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      Thank you in advance for your support!
      
      Matt Dralle
      Matronics Email List Administrator
      
      
      ==================== A Few List Member Comments =====================
      
      I get a lot of useful information and satisfaction from belonging to
      your groups.  Somehow you foster a great sense of community without 
      the baggage that accompanies other lists.
      
                                                              Dave S.
      
      We do appreciate you running the lists spam and advertising free.
      
                                                              Jeff P.
      
      I am celebrating my first flight day and you and the lists deserve 
      a thanks since without it my build would have taken twice as long.
      
                                                              Chris L.
      
      I enjoy the list.  Have my morning coffee with it!
      
                                                              Buddy M.
      
      Your lists are the best investment of my time and money, bar none, 
      when it comes to interfacing with my fellow amateur builders.
      
                                                              Owen B.
      
      Keep it going!!  Thanks for taking over.
      
                                                              Wallace J.
      
      I enjoy the Pietenpol List a lot.
      
                                                              Malcolm Z.
      
      Thanks for your great site!  As a new CJ-6 owner, your web site is an 
      invaluable resource.
      
                                                              Ken B.
      
      Great informational source.
      
                                                              Fred S.
      
      Thanks for doing this!
      
                                                              Lance G.
      
      Thank you for the service i do enjoy the many hours I use on line with 
      the banter/ serious technical items.
      
                                                              Noel G.
      
      Thanks for the years of builder support.
      
                                                              Roy H.
      
      Great forum!
      
                                                              Roger C.
      
      Thank you VERY MUCH, Matt, for carrying on with this great service.  
      The "Europa" community really appreciates it.  All the best, Svein - now 
      celebrating 10 years as a subscriber, I think!
      
                                                              Svein J.
      
      Matt, I'm building a much nicer and safer airplane because of your efforts.
      
                                                              Robert D.
      
      21 years for you 9 years for me on the Zenith lists. Could not imagine 
      building and flying without Matronics.
      
                                                              Brian U.
      
      Thanks for ALL the hard work and time you put into maintaining these 
      forums.  As an EAA Tech counselor I recommend them often.
      
                                                              Paul M.
      
      This Pietenpol list is a huge part of the motivation that keeps me working 
      on my project. This has been a great place for meeting like minded folks 
      and getting help for the difficult parts.
      
                                                              Thomas S.
      
      Thanks for the excellent service Matt.
      
                                                              Frank S.
      
      Matt, I'm a Sonex building, but I have to say that the Piet group is without 
      a doubt the most interesting.
      
                                                              Ken M.
      
      I can't tell you how much I appreciate the Piet List. This is one of my sanity
      
      lifelines!
      
                                                              Daniel H.
      
      Your site has provided us over the years with excellent connections to others 
      for advice.  Good job!
      
                                                              Bob M.
      
      Kolb List is my #1 source!
      
                                                              Henry V.
      
      Matt, you do a great job with this site.  I've been with it since the 
      beginning!
      
                                                              John M.
      
      I am very grateful for all of your excellent work on the List.
      
                                                              Arthur L.
      
      Thank you for the service you provide us all!
      
                                                              Nicholas C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Hi I'm new here. | 
      
      
      Hi I am Matthijs de Groot from Holland (Texel)
      I got the Drawings in march this year.
      So far I have build the ribs and the tail section.
      Im planning to do the metal work this winter and start on the Ford A  
      motor I found pumping water at a farm in Holland.
      Im hoping to find someone that has CAD Drawings of all the metal  
      fittings so I can have them cut by a friend here in Holland. I found a  
      Dutch company selling the 4130 steel.
      For the rebuilding of my motor im looking for a( garage hand book)whit  
      all the tolerances so I can find out what is good and bad in my engine  
      so I can start making it like new.
      I found a Bendix S4LN type nr 10-51-360-37 Magneto I can buy for  
      450,- is this a good option?
      
      So 1 cad drawings metal fittings
             2 detailed motor info ford A 1928
             3 any info on magnetos(should I buy or look further).
      
      
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      As a rule of thumb, all birds dive when spooked. Never fly under soaring Turkey
      Vultures.
      
      Jeff Wilson 
      
      Do not archive
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Nov 28, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > My brother was flying under a flock of birds and when he got directly under the
      flock for some reason the birds dove down, their instincts were to get away
      from the predators, he got hit buy 3 birds from the top. Lesson one:Stay away
      from flying things.
      > Pieti Lowell
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359604#359604
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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      Also, birds of prey are territorial and may dive towards you to defend
      their airspace.  So, consider giving eagles, falcons, and hawks a little
      extra space.   Flying low around major rivers or lakes where eagles
      frequent is not a good idea.
      
      Greg Bacon
      
      Do not archive
      
      On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > As a rule of thumb, all birds dive when spooked. Never fly under soaring
      > Turkey Vultures.
      >
      > Jeff Wilson
      >
      > Do not archive
      >
      > Sent from my iPhone
      >
      > On Nov 28, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
      > wrote:
      >
      > Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
      > >
      > > My brother was flying under a flock of birds and when he got directly
      > under the flock for some reason the birds dove down, their instincts were
      > to get away from the predators, he got hit buy 3 birds from the top. Lesson
      > one:Stay away from flying things.
      > > Pieti Lowell
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Read this topic online here:
      > >
      > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359604#359604
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      >
      
      
      -- 
      Greg Bacon
      
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      Also, regarding bird strikes, at the speeds most Piets fly wouldn't it be a good
      idea to reinforce the trailing edge?
      
      :-)
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Jeff Wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com>
      >Sent: Nov 29, 2011 8:56 AM
      >To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: bird strike
      >
      >
      >As a rule of thumb, all birds dive when spooked. Never fly under soaring Turkey
      Vultures.
      >
      >Jeff Wilson 
      > 
      >Do not archive
      >
      >Sent from my iPhone
      >
      >On Nov 28, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> wrote:
      >
      >> 
      >> My brother was flying under a flock of birds and when he got directly under
      the flock for some reason the birds dove down, their instincts were to get away
      from the predators, he got hit buy 3 birds from the top. Lesson one:Stay away
      from flying things.
      >> Pieti Lowell
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >> 
      >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359604#359604
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >
      >
      
      
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      A larger protective headrest may prove safer as well.  
      :o)
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: bird strike
      
      
      Also, regarding bird strikes, at the speeds most Piets fly wouldn't it be a good
      idea to reinforce the trailing edge?
      
      :-)
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Jeff Wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com>
      >Sent: Nov 29, 2011 8:56 AM
      >To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: bird strike
      >
      >
      >As a rule of thumb, all birds dive when spooked. Never fly under soaring Turkey
      Vultures.
      >
      >Jeff Wilson 
      > 
      >Do not archive
      >
      >Sent from my iPhone
      >
      >On Nov 28, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> wrote:
      >
      >> 
      >> My brother was flying under a flock of birds and when he got directly under
      the flock for some reason the birds dove down, their instincts were to get away
      from the predators, he got hit buy 3 birds from the top. Lesson one:Stay away
      from flying things.
      >> Pieti Lowell
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >> 
      >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359604#359604
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >
      >
      
      
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      Jim, that was like the one that was going around a few years back:
      
      Two Lear Jet pilots were looking over a Cessna Citation and one  of them 
      said to the other, "There's just something about that Cessna that doesn't 
      look right and I can't figure out what it is."
      
      The other Lear pilot said, " I know what it is!"  "What's is it?", asked the 
      first pilot.
      
      "The wing has deice boots on the trailing edge," says the second pilot.  "I 
      wonder why?" asked the first.
      
      The answer, "In case the airplane gets overtaken by a fast-moving cold 
      front!"
      
      Please do not keep this!
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:31 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: bird strike
      
      
      > <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      >
      > Also, regarding bird strikes, at the speeds most Piets fly wouldn't it be 
      > a good idea to reinforce the trailing edge?
      >
      > :-)
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      >>From: Jeff Wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com>
      >>Sent: Nov 29, 2011 8:56 AM
      >>To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: bird strike
      >>
      >>
      >>As a rule of thumb, all birds dive when spooked. Never fly under soaring 
      >>Turkey Vultures.
      >>
      >>Jeff Wilson
      >>
      >>Do not archive
      >>
      >>Sent from my iPhone
      >>
      >>On Nov 28, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> 
      >>wrote:
      >>
      >>> <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
      >>>
      >>> My brother was flying under a flock of birds and when he got directly 
      >>> under the flock for some reason the birds dove down, their instincts 
      >>> were to get away from the predators, he got hit buy 3 birds from the 
      >>> top. Lesson one:Stay away from flying things.
      >>> Pieti Lowell
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Read this topic online here:
      >>>
      >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359604#359604
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hi I'm new here. | 
      
      
      Hi Matthijs,
      
      Welcome to the Piet list. There are others on this list who have already fo
      rged the road of the CAD drawings for all the steel parts. Hopefully one of
       them can pipe up and let you know how to proceed. A good resource for manu
      als on the Ford is Snyder's Antique Auto. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com
      /
      Remember, there is a wealth of knowledge if you search the Piet List archiv
      es.
      
      Good luck,
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Matthijs de Groot <getijsem@zonnet.nl>
      Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 4:03 am
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hi I'm new here.
      
      
      >
      Hi I am Matthijs de Groot from Holland (Texel)
       got the Drawings in march this year.
      o far I have build the ribs and the tail section.
      m planning to do the metal work this winter and start on the Ford A  
      otor I found pumping water at a farm in Holland.
      m hoping to find someone that has CAD Drawings of all the metal  
      ittings so I can have them cut by a friend here in Holland. I found a  
      utch company selling the 4130 steel.
      or the rebuilding of my motor im looking for a( garage hand book)whit  
      ll the tolerances so I can find out what is good and bad in my engine  
      o I can start making it like new.
       found a Bendix S4LN type nr 10-51-360-37 Magneto I can buy for  
      450,- is this a good option?
      So 1 cad drawings metal fittings
            2 detailed motor info ford A 1928
            3 any info on magnetos(should I buy or look further).
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| Subject:  | Re: Hi I'm new here. | 
      
      
      Welkom Matthijs,
      
      Nice to see another Pietenpol in Holland 
      Vroege Vogels in Lelystad has one in their collection. http://earlybirdsmus
      eum.nl/en/pietenpol-aircamper
      And their is one being build in Hoogeveen http://www.dutchnostalgicwings.nl
      /
      
      You can substitute 4130 with DIN 1.7218 steel, same composition but to a Ge
      rman standard.
      And perhaps easier to obtain in Europe
      
      Have Fun Building and Flying.
      
      Hans van der Voort
      
      NX15KV
      Waller, TX
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Matthijs de Groot <getijsem@zonnet.nl>
      Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 4:03 am
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hi I'm new here.
      
      
      >
      Hi I am Matthijs de Groot from Holland (Texel)
       got the Drawings in march this year.
      o far I have build the ribs and the tail section.
      m planning to do the metal work this winter and start on the Ford A  
      otor I found pumping water at a farm in Holland.
      m hoping to find someone that has CAD Drawings of all the metal  
      ittings so I can have them cut by a friend here in Holland. I found a  
      utch company selling the 4130 steel.
      or the rebuilding of my motor im looking for a( garage hand book)whit  
      ll the tolerances so I can find out what is good and bad in my engine  
      o I can start making it like new.
       found a Bendix S4LN type nr 10-51-360-37 Magneto I can buy for  
      450,- is this a good option?
      So 1 cad drawings metal fittings
            2 detailed motor info ford A 1928
            3 any info on magnetos(should I buy or look further).
      -
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| Subject:  | Re: Hi I'm new here. | 
      
      Better make sure you are of the athletic and bendable type before
      proceeding much further.....
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
      On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Hans Van Der Voort <hvandervoo@aol.com>wro
      te:
      
      > Welkom Matthijs,
      >
      > Nice to see another Pietenpol in Holland
      > Vroege Vogels in Lelystad has one in their collection.
      > http://earlybirdsmuseum.nl/en/pietenpol-aircamper
      > And their is one being build in Hoogeveen
      > http://www.dutchnostalgicwings.nl/
      >
      > You can substitute 4130 with DIN 1.7218 steel, same composition but to a
      > German standard.
      > And perhaps easier to obtain in Europe
      >
      > Have Fun Building and Flying.
      >
      > Hans van der Voort
      >
      > NX15KV
      > Waller, TX
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Matthijs de Groot <getijsem@zonnet.nl>
      > To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 4:03 am
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hi I'm new here.
      >
      nl>
      >
      > Hi I am Matthijs de Groot from Holland (Texel)
      > I got the Drawings in march this year.
      > So far I have build the ribs and the tail section.
      > Im planning to do the metal work this winter and start on the Ford A
      > motor I found pumping water at a farm in Holland.
      > Im hoping to find someone that has CAD Drawings of all the metal
      > fittings so I can have them cut by a friend here in Holland. I found a
      > Dutch company selling the 4130 steel.
      > For the rebuilding of my motor im looking for a( garage hand book)whit
      > all the tolerances so I can find out what is good and bad in my engine
      > so I can start making it like new.
      > I found a Bendix S4LN type nr 10-51-360-37 Magneto I can buy for
      > 450,- is this a good option?
      >
      > So 1 cad drawings metal fittings
      >        2 detailed motor info ford A 1928
      >        3 any info on magnetos(should I buy or look further).
      >
      > _blank>www.aeroelectric.com
      > /" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com
      > =_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com
      > blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      > " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      > p://forums.matronics.com
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      Is it just me, or do other builders find themselves stepping on the cord to the
      iron as they iron the fabric on their project?  You would think after once or
      twice a human would learn to avoid doing the same stupid thing over and over.
      But no......  Sheesh!
      
      
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      You are lucky to be far enough along for that to be a problem.  Count your 
      blessings.  Vic
      
      do not acrhive
      
      
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ironing problem
      > From: billsayre@ymail.com
      > Date: Tue=2C 29 Nov 2011 15:58:25 -0800
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > 
      > 
      > Is it just me=2C or do other builders find themselves stepping on the cor
      d to the iron as they iron the fabric on their project? You would think aft
      er once or twice a human would learn to avoid doing the same stupid thing o
      ver and over. But no...... Sheesh!
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      Ha! I know exactly what you mean, Bill! But, as Vic says, I'd rather be
      tripping over my iron cord all day long, than doing anything else (except
      flying)!
      
      
      Gary from Cool
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah
      Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 4:28 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ironing problem
      
      
      You are lucky to be far enough along for that to be a problem.  Count your
      blessings.  Vic
      
      do not acrhive
      
      
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ironing problem
      > From: billsayre@ymail.com
      > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:58:25 -0800
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > 
      > 
      > Is it just me, or do other builders find themselves stepping on the cord
      to the iron as they iron the fabric on their project? You would think after
      once or twice a human would learn to avoid doing the same stupid thing over
      and over. But no...... Sheesh!
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359773#359773
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      Put yourself a hook above the work and use an extention cord heavy enough to 
      carry the amperage.  Hook the cord in the hook to keep the cord off the 
      floor.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:58 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ironing problem
      
      
      >
      > Is it just me, or do other builders find themselves stepping on the cord 
      > to the iron as they iron the fabric on their project?  You would think 
      > after once or twice a human would learn to avoid doing the same stupid 
      > thing over and over.  But no......  Sheesh!
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359773#359773
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      Naw you don't have the market by yourself. I can even trip on the cord when it
      is on the bench and jerk it to the floor to recalibrate it. At least so far I
      have not caught a hot iron!
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      Baker, FL 32531
      
      Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      now covering
      21" wheels
      Lycoming O-235 C 2C
      Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      
      
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      OK.. its a little shaky... the video that is..
      but a big day.. only problem i see is  the antique tach seems to be reading twice
      the speed
      i'll hook up an electric tach and try again.... and adjust the idle
      that homebuilt prop isn't shaking...good sign
      
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9qwIzD7V8&feature=youtu.be
      
      
      jeff :D
      
      
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      Nice, Jeff! Congratulations!
      
      Do not archive
      ------Original Message------
      From: bender
      Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: first run
      Sent: Nov 29, 2011 6:28 PM
      
      
      OK.. its a little shaky... the video that is..
      but a big day.. only problem i see is  the antique tach seems to be reading twice
      the speed
      i'll hook up an electric tach and try again.... and adjust the idle
      that homebuilt prop isn't shaking...good sign
      
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9qwIzD7V8&feature=youtu.be
      
      
      jeff :D
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359785#359785
      
      
      Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
      
      
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      Man, does that sound SWEET!  Great job, Jeff.  When will we see this one at
      Brodhead?
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender
      Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:28 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: first run
      
      
      OK.. its a little shaky... the video that is..
      but a big day.. only problem i see is  the antique tach seems to be reading
      twice the speed
      i'll hook up an electric tach and try again.... and adjust the idle
      that homebuilt prop isn't shaking...good sign
      
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9qwIzD7V8&feature=youtu.be
      
      
      jeff :D
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359785#359785
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hi I'm new here. | 
      
      
      Welcome Matthijs!  Look forward to reading about your progress.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ironing problem | 
      
      
      Nothing better then the sound of a freshly calibrated iron smacking the concrete....
      
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/Georgetown, TX
      
      
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      OK.. its a little shaky... the video that is.. 
      
      
      Hey Jeff, 
      
      It sounds and looks really good.=C2- I like the open access to the right 
      side of the fuselage. 
      
      Cheers, 
      
      Jim B. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ironing problem | 
      
      
      
      Chuck Campbell wrote:
      > Put yourself a hook above the work and use an extention cord heavy enough to
      
      > carry the amperage.  Hook the cord in the hook to keep the cord off the 
      > floor.
      
      
      I'd probably hang myself!!!
      I do feel fortunate to be at this point though.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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      If the tach is reading double=2C you don't have a tach built for an engine 
      but probably a direct drive tach for a piece of machinery.  Engine tach's t
      ypically run off of the cam=2C 1/2 crankshaft speed.  There are plenty of o
      ld tachs out there without haveing to go electronic. Gene
       > Subject: Pietenpol-List: first run
      > From: jfaith@solairusaviation.com
      > Date: Tue=2C 29 Nov 2011 18:28:10 -0800
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > 
      om>
      > 
      > OK.. its a little shaky... the video that is..
      > but a big day.. only problem i see is  the antique tach seems to be readi
      ng twice the speed
      > i'll hook up an electric tach and try again.... and adjust the idle
      > that homebuilt prop isn't shaking...good sign
      > 
      > www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9qwIzD7V8&feature=youtu.be
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > jeff :D
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
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      Congratulations!  Sounds great!
      What type of ignition are you running?
      
      
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      She looks good and sounds as good as she looks. Nice job
      
      John
      
      Do not archive
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      
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      VERY NICE......!
      
      --------
      Jake Schultz - curator,
      Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      
      
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