---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/30/11: 27 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:20 AM - [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! (Matt Dralle) 1. 03:51 AM - Re: first run (Jack) 2. 04:27 AM - Re: Ironing problem (helspersew@aol.com) 3. 04:53 AM - Re: first run (helspersew@aol.com) 4. 05:11 AM - Piets in the Charlotte NC area? (Jim Markle) 5. 05:43 AM - Congratulations Jeff! (Douwe Blumberg) 6. 05:51 AM - Welcome Matthijs! (Douwe Blumberg) 7. 06:34 AM - Need an address (TOM STINEMETZE) 8. 06:46 AM - Re: first run (bender) 9. 07:45 AM - Re: Congratulations Jeff! (bender) 10. 07:51 AM - Re: Need an address (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com) 11. 08:09 AM - Re: Need an address (John Franklin) 12. 08:42 AM - Re: Hi I'm new here. (Bill Church) 13. 09:07 AM - Re: Piets in the Charlotte NC area? (Bill Church) 14. 09:07 AM - Mike Cuy Video (TOM STINEMETZE) 15. 09:28 AM - Re: Mike Cuy Video (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com) 16. 10:00 AM - helping the newbies?? (Lawrence Williams) 17. 10:49 AM - Re: helping the newbies?? (jarheadpilot82) 18. 11:12 AM - Re: Re: Hi I'm new here. (helspersew@aol.com) 19. 11:53 AM - Re: helping the newbies?? (kevinpurtee) 20. 12:42 PM - Re: Mike Cuy Video (Ryan Mueller) 21. 12:50 PM - Re: Mike Cuy Video (Jack Phillips) 22. 12:52 PM - Re: Mike Cuy Video (TOM STINEMETZE) 23. 01:04 PM - Re: Mike Cuy Video (TOM STINEMETZE) 24. 01:22 PM - Re: Leading edge attachment (Bill Church) 25. 07:28 PM - Nailing ribs to spars (tdudley@umn.edu) 26. 08:23 PM - Re: Nailing ribs to spars (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:56 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my birthday again, 48 of them, in fact! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. Below are a few more of the nice comments from Listers I've received this year. Please read them over and see if you don't agree. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few More List Member Comments ===================== I never would have ended up with the great flying airplane I have without the help of people on the Pietenpol list. Thanks for giving us the medium to communicate our questions, tips and suggestions. Matt P. Thanks for the hard work and maintaining the site commercial free. Good luck for the future and this site has been a source of great friendship. Peter B. It is a great resource. Jim G. Thanks so much for your continuing support of the homebuilt community. Gerald A. You are doing an outstanding job running the list's. Keep it going. Bill V. Thanks for keeping this valuable information source going. Best of all the forums. George A. Another Great year on the RV-List! Thomas E. Still the best source of information (& opinion) for builders on a wide range of issues. Martin H. Matt, thanks for hosting and maintaining the lists! Rumen D. It is a great resource. Bryan R. Thanks for your continuing interest in Van's RV8 kitplanes. Peter C. I'm no longer building or flying but like to keep in touch with the current generation of builders. Best wishes to a great list system. Gerry C. A great list that is most useful for builders. Graham H. Thanks for this wonderful tool! Ralph C. Thanks for a great service to the experimental aviation community. Douglas D. Great topics and loads of useful info keep the subject matter relevant. George H. Thanks for keeping this going. Richard R. Great facility and well managed. Victor F. Thanks for a great service. John D. Thank you for you time and efforts they have made Aviation a better place for everyone. Jim W. I still enjoy getting the list in the morning. Don M. You provide a great resource. David M. You have probably saved a few necks over the years. Robert F. Thank you for being there. Benjamin B. You perform a great service. Bruce M. Thank you for providing this invaluable resource. William D. ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:15 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: first run Jeff great video, congratulations! Before flying you should add the plywood the right side, it adds a bunch of strength and you will be warmer... :) Jack DSM NX1929T Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bender Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: first run OK.. its a little shaky... the video that is.. but a big day.. only problem i see is the antique tach seems to be reading twice the speed i'll hook up an electric tach and try again.... and adjust the idle that homebuilt prop isn't shaking...good sign www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9qwIzD7V8&feature=youtu.be jeff :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359785#359785 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ironing problem From: helspersew@aol.com Just be glad its the iron cord. Several times I stepped on the rib stitch c ord and.....rrrrrrriiiipp! Dang! Another patch! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: BYD Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 6:01 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ironing problem Is it just me, or do other builders find themselves stepping on the cord to the ron as they iron the fabric on their project? You would think after once o r wice a human would learn to avoid doing the same stupid thing over and over . ut no...... Sheesh! ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359773#359773 - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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Beautiful sounds!! Does your homemade prop make a lot-o -wind? You can get a small gearbox made by www.bobsspeedometer.com to compe nsate. Nice ignition system. Hey, how did you get that N number 1929F? I tr ied every which way to get anything with 1929 in it for years. You dawg! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: bender Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 8:31 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: first run > OK.. its a little shaky... the video that is.. ut a big day.. only problem i see is the antique tach seems to be reading wice the speed 'll hook up an electric tach and try again.... and adjust the idle hat homebuilt prop isn't shaking...good sign www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9qwIzD7V8&feature=youtu.be eff :D ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359785#359785 - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on -= the Contribution link below to find out more about -= this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided -= by: -= -= * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com -= * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com -= * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com - -= List Contribution Web Site: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution - -= Thank you for your generous support! - -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. - -======================== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:55 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets in the Charlotte NC area? I'll be there in a few weeks and would really appreciate seeing or just getting together for a visit.... Let me know (offlist)..... Hope everyone has a good and safe holiday season! jm...in Toronto, where hospitality (Church family in particular) is THE best!!.... do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:50 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Congratulations Jeff! Congrats Jeff! Truly a big day. Running one's engine for the first time is a big motivational boost, especially when it's mounted on the fuse. Great plane!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:02 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Welcome Matthijs! Welcome Mattijs to the world of Pietenpols!! Seems like a lot of Hollanders are attracted to this beautiful little plane, I'm half Dutch myself. Am going back next fall to visit some family as a matter of fact. As has been mentioned, the archives are a great place to start researching your questions. Another suggestion would be to contact the Brodhead Pietenpol Association and inquire about purchasing back issue magazines (magazines from previous years). There are still some people building and flying Fords, but back in the eighties and nineties there were a LOT, so there are many articles pertaining specifically to the Ford. You can contact them at bpan@tds.net Pretty much any part or accessory you need for that engine is available in the states. Feel free to let us know what you are having a hard time finding and I'm sure some of us with some Ford experience will be happy to help point you in the right direction. Douwe ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:28 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need an address Sorry to bother the list with this question but my home computer lost it's hard drive containing all my passwords, e-mail addresses, etc. Would somebody please send me Mike Cuy's e-mail address. Thanks for the help! Tom Stinemetze N328X do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:27 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: first run From: "bender" Thanks guys.. I guess i got lucky Dan... reserved it last year..i played in the faa site for a long time to find the number that fit My tach was new old stock..dated 1931 and i was told it was from a tiger moth...i got it and the airspeed from the same guy... maybe the Moth had another gear to slow it down.. i was just going to hook up an electric tach till i got a speed reducer for the mechanical one and see where i was running. i dig the sound... my buddy here at work expected it to be louder the ignition is a dual point with the coil switcher like the corvair guys use.. all grins here jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359899#359899 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:30 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Congratulations Jeff! From: "bender" Thanks Douwe... i really should come and see you someday.. you're so close jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359903#359903 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:10 AM PST US From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Need an address Group, Saw this ad in our local online classifieds. O-235-C for sale $1500. I know nothing about it or have any affiliation...Just passing it on. http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=18258480&cat=151&lpid=&se arch Brian SLC-UT ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:37 AM PST US From: John Franklin Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Need an address Tom, This is the address I have: "Cuy Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" Hope it works! John F. -----Original Message----- From: TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Nov 30, 2011 8:31 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need an address Sorry to bother the list with this question but my home computer lost it's hard drive containing all my passwords, e-mail addresses, etc. Would somebody please send me Mike Cuy's e-mail address. Thanks for the help! Tom Stinemetze N328X do not archive ________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:21 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi I'm new here. From: "Bill Church" Welcome to the group, Matthijs. Since nobody else has mentioned it yet, I'll caution against making the metal fittings before the wooden structure is built. Many builders have thought the same idea before, but, because each Air Camper is hand-built by different individuals, each Air Camper will be slightly different, and therefore, the metal fittings will also need to be made to fit that actual plane which they will be used on. The differences will be small, but probably big enough to make many pre-fabricated parts useless. The fittings MIGHT fit if built as-drawn, but it is highly likely that many will not. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359909#359909 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:36 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in the Charlotte NC area? From: "Bill Church" Oftentimes the quality of hospitality is determined by the character and personality of the guest. The pleasure was all ours, Jim. Weird, though... after Jim left, I went out to my garage workshop, and now I seem to be missing some sawdust... What a pigsty. Sorry about the mess, Jim - next time I promise I'll tidy up and vacuum beforehand. BC do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359911#359911 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:40 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video I have just been in contact with Mike Cuy about his famous "How I Built My Pietenpol" video that has been such an inspiration to many of us. Unfortunately, Mike's master VHS tape has bitten the dust, kicked the bucket, gone to the laaast roundup, etc. and he is unable to manufacture any more DVD's. I got his permission to send a help message out to the group to see if anyone has one of the new DVD versions, or for that matter one of the old VHS versions, and would be willing to copy and share. I have two of the old VHS versions that, unfortunatly, are not usable any more or I would offer to do this myself. Any takers? Thanks, Tom Stinemetze N328X ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:40 AM PST US From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video I have a copy of his DVD. Brian SLC-UT 801-882-0213 From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:05 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video I have just been in contact with Mike Cuy about his famous "How I Built My Pietenpol" video that has been such an inspiration to many of us. Unfortunately, Mike's master VHS tape has bitten the dust, kicked the bucket, gone to the laaast roundup, etc. and he is unable to manufacture any more DVD's. I got his permission to send a help message out to the group to see if anyone has one of the new DVD versions, or for that matter one of the old VHS versions, and would be willing to copy and share. I have two of the old VHS versions that, unfortunatly, are not usable any more or I would offer to do this myself. Any takers? Thanks, Tom Stinemetze N328X ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:00:52 AM PST US From: Lawrence Williams Subject: Pietenpol-List: helping the newbies?? Hey JM, be careful about who you tell to "Search the archives". They are mo re about,"Congratulations", or "I wish mine was as nice as yours" or "What I did in the war" or some other well-meaning but totally useless post rathe r than good solid info. We need to use a WHOLE LOT more "do not archive" spots in most of our posts so that the archives are meaningful and helpful to someone 5 years from no w. Unfortunately, as they stand there is a bunch of garbage that must be wa ded through and disregarded just to get to the occasional nugget of helpful info. -Might be a good new year's resolution! Larry W. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: helping the newbies?? From: "jarheadpilot82" Larry, You got me to thinking about using the "Do Not Archive" words more often. So, I have actually added it to my signature as most of what I have to say is probably not worth saving long-term. That way, my default is to not archive. If I feel that it is important, then I have to consciously erase the phrase. Don't know if that is the right way, but just a thought. -------- Do Not Archive Semper Fi, Terry Hand Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359922#359922 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:44 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi I'm new here. From: helspersew@aol.com I agree Bill. I had to make my straight-axle landing gear fittings about 4 times each, and that was AFTER I had the gear legs made. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Bill Church Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 10:42 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Hi I'm new here. > Welcome to the group, Matthijs. Since nobody else has mentioned it yet, I'll caution against making the met al ittings before the wooden structure is built. any builders have thought the same idea before, but, because each Air Campe r is and-built by different individuals, each Air Camper will be slightly differ ent, nd therefore, the metal fittings will also need to be made to fit that actu al lane which they will be used on. The differences will be small, but probabl y ig enough to make many pre-fabricated parts useless. The fittings MIGHT fit if uilt as-drawn, but it is highly likely that many will not. Bill C. ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359909#359909 - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on -= the Contribution link below to find out more about -= this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided -= by: -= -= * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com -= * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com -= * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com - -= List Contribution Web Site: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution - -= Thank you for your generous support! - -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. - -======================== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:42 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: helping the newbies?? From: "kevinpurtee" Well done, Larry. Congratulations. Wish mine was as nice as yours. What war? do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359926#359926 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:42:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video From: Ryan Mueller Congratulations... Tom, Mikee miscounted and sent me two when I ordered the DVD version, I'll send one to you. Ryan do not archive On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM, wrote: > **** > > I have a copy of his DVD.**** > > ** ** > > Brian**** > > SLC-UT**** > > 801-882-0213**** > > ** ** > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *TOM STINEMETZE > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:05 AM > *To:* Matronics Pietenpol List > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video**** > > ** ** > > *I have just been in contact with Mike Cuy about his famous "How I Built > My Pietenpol" video that has been such an inspiration to many of us. > Unfortunately, Mike's master VHS tape has bitten the dust, kicked the > bucket, gone to the laaast roundup, etc. and he is unable to manufacture > any more DVD's. I got his permission to send a help message out to the > group to see if anyone has one of the new DVD versions, or for that matter > one of the old VHS versions, and would be willing to copy and share. I > have two of the old VHS versions that, unfortunatly, are not usable any > more or I would offer to do this myself.***** > > **** > > *Any takers?***** > > **** > > *Thanks,***** > > *Tom Stinemetze***** > > *N328X***** > > **** > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *www.aeroelectric.com* > > *www.buildersbooks.com* > > *www.homebuilthelp.com* > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:48 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video Better yet, send it back to Mike as his new Master Do Not Archive Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video Congratulations... Tom, Mikee miscounted and sent me two when I ordered the DVD version, I'll send one to you. Ryan do not archive On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM, wrote: I have a copy of his DVD. Brian SLC-UT 801-882-0213 From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:05 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video I have just been in contact with Mike Cuy about his famous "How I Built My Pietenpol" video that has been such an inspiration to many of us. Unfortunately, Mike's master VHS tape has bitten the dust, kicked the bucket, gone to the laaast roundup, etc. and he is unable to manufacture any more DVD's. I got his permission to send a help message out to the group to see if anyone has one of the new DVD versions, or for that matter one of the old VHS versions, and would be willing to copy and share. I have two of the old VHS versions that, unfortunatly, are not usable any more or I would offer to do this myself. Any takers? Thanks, Tom Stinemetze N328X www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution _blank">www.aeroelectric.com .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:46 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video Thanks Ryan that will solve my dilema nicely. By the way, my brother the mechanic was at the house for Thanksgiving last week and we spent quite a bit of time planning out the Corvair assembly. Should be happening pretty soon now. I will take lots of photos and make them available. Tom ____ | ____ \8/ o/ \o >>> Ryan Mueller 11/30/2011 2:39 PM >>> Congratulations... Tom, Mikee miscounted and sent me two when I ordered the DVD version, I'll send one to you. Ryan do not archive On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM, wrote: I have a copy of his DVD. Brian SLC-UT 801-882-0213 ( tel:801-882-0213 ) From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:05 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video I have just been in contact with Mike Cuy about his famous "How I Built My Pietenpol" video that has been such an inspiration to many of us. Unfortunately, Mike's master VHS tape has bitten the dust, kicked the bucket, gone to the laaast roundup, etc. and he is unable to manufacture any more DVD's. I got his permission to send a help message out to the group to see if anyone has one of the new DVD versions, or for that matter one of the old VHS versions, and would be willing to copy and share. I have two of the old VHS versions that, unfortunatly, are not usable any more or I would offer to do this myself. Any takers? Thanks, Tom Stinemetze N328X www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.comwww.homebuilthelp.comhttp://www.ma tronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listht tp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution _blank">www.aeroelectric.com.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listtp: //forums.matronics.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:27 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Video Whoops, that reply was supposed to be offline, sorry. Anyway, thanks to everybody both on and off the list as the number of offers I received was totally in keeping with what we have come to expect from this group. Mr. Cuy is not just responsible for getting my juices flowing with that video, he also was responsible for getting me on this group. For both of those things I am extremely greatful. I intend to personally send him a DVD so he will have a good copy from which to work. Tom Stinemetze N328X do not archive >>> "TOM STINEMETZE" 11/30/2011 2:50 PM >>> Thanks Ryan that will solve my dilema nicely. By the way, my brother the mechanic was at the house for Thanksgiving last week and we spent quite a bit of time planning out the Corvair assembly. Should be happening pretty soon now. I will take lots of photos and make them available. Tom ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:22:28 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Leading edge attachment From: "Bill Church" Dave, Making your leading edge from 3-foot pieces of aluminum will not prevent oil canning with temperature changes. The aluminum will expand and contract at the same rate, whether 14 feet long, or 1 foot long. Leaving small gaps between shorter pieces will probably help to reduce the buckling a bit, though. Not too sure about epoxying sheet aluminum to wood, either. I'm pretty sure that bond will fail, sooner than later. But your comment that really got my attention was that you used that method on a different plane, and it works. Well, I suppose it does work - especially since that's what the plans for THAT aircraft call for. I recall reading about people having aluminum leading edge cladding on their Pietenpol, and wishing they were plywood instead (aluminum was wavier, and less strong). I just don't see any advantages to using aluminum on the Pietenpol wing. Bill C. > Mt LE are .016 aluminum attached with nails and epoxy. > They are in 3 ft sections ( to prevent oil canning with temp changes) > I used this on my SA-300 , works. > Dave NX1QZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359937#359937 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:28:10 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nailing ribs to spars From: "tdudley@umn.edu" Last month the question was raised about epoxy vs. nailing the ribs to the spars. It seemed to be that either method was acceptable and the responses given were in favor of nails. I am using the 4-3/4" X 3/4" solid spars. The ribs are built to plans (1/2" wide X 1/4" thick spruce attachment to the spar). I'll ask this question after reviewing the archives and after reading the Bingelis books-- are 20 gauge nails appropriate here or do you use 18 gauge, or does it really even matter since the difference is so slight? To get 3X the thickness of the surface wood (i.e., 1/4"), I plan on using nails 1" in length. I know it's another of my "soft" questions, but I was just interested in knowing what others have done that has worked. Having asked this, I promise I will not ask how to hold the hammer to place the nails. Tom Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359964#359964 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:36 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nailing ribs to spars That's what this is for....... http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32052&cat=1,53193&ap=1 Cuts down on Newfy Dimples too. :-) Clif > > Having asked this, I promise I will not ask how to hold the hammer to > place the nails. > > Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.