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1. 04:21 AM - GN-1 PROJECT FOR SALE (Dan Gaston)
2. 09:02 AM - A-65 exhaust gasket (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 09:32 AM - Re: A-65 exhaust gasket (Dan Yocum)
4. 10:23 AM - Re: A-65 exhaust gasket (Andrew Eldredge)
5. 10:38 AM - Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts (helspersew@aol.com)
6. 10:53 AM - Re: A-65 exhaust gasket (Dan Yocum)
7. 10:56 AM - Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts (Dan Yocum)
8. 01:59 PM - Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts (Andrew Eldredge)
9. 03:16 PM - Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts (Ryan Mueller)
10. 03:39 PM - Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts (helspersew@aol.com)
11. 04:08 PM - Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts (Andrew Eldredge)
12. 05:43 PM - Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts (Jack)
13. 06:06 PM - Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts (Jack Phillips)
14. 07:29 PM - Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts (Ryan Mueller)
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| Subject: | GN-1 PROJECT FOR SALE |
I have a GN-1 project for sale. Complete rib set built, tail feathers
built, fuselage sides built. All wood necessary to complete, including
spars. All wood came from Aircraft Spruce. Laser cut 4130 fittings.
Continental A-65-8 with carb, mags,hub,and logs, on engine stand. For
details and pictures, just e-mail me. I would prefer not to part this
out. $4,000.00 for all. I am located in Norwalk, ohio. This is the last
time I'll post this here, I'm sure you're all getting tired of seeing
it.Thank you, Dan Gaston.
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| Subject: | A-65 exhaust gasket |
>From my A&P:
>It doesn't matter. Place the gasket in the nearest trash container
>and buy the good gaskets. Then you don't have to ask the question.
>Those cheap stamped gaskets and the good RAPCO exhaust gaskets
>both cost $1.25 ea at Aircraft Spuce. Buy the good ones.
>I won't use the others.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 exhaust gasket |
I stand corrected. Per the installation guide printed at ACS for the
blo-proof gaskets currently being discussed:
"2 gaskets used per cylinder, with raised beads interlocked facing the
exhaust stack flange..."
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/airbornesolidcopperbloproofgaskets.php
And the RAPCO gasket Oscar's A&P recommends:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/rapcoexhaustgas.php
The reason I didn't buy the spiral wound RAPCO gasket is because I would
have had to trim it for one of the bolts to fit, and I was lazy.
Note to self - check the exhaust gaskets for leaks next time I go flying...
On 12/07/2011 11:00 AM, Oscar Zuniga wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga<taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
>> From my A&P:
>
>> It doesn't matter. Place the gasket in the nearest trash container
>> and buy the good gaskets. Then you don't have to ask the question.
>> Those cheap stamped gaskets and the good RAPCO exhaust gaskets
>> both cost $1.25 ea at Aircraft Spuce. Buy the good ones.
>> I won't use the others.
>
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 exhaust gasket |
This discussion has inspired me to look for the installation guide for the
parts I bought...
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pdf/GasketInsert.pdf
It mentions two per cylinder may be used if desired, and that they should
be re-torqued after a hot run. That seems like a good idea. I didn't buy
enough of them to use two per cylinder,
Speaking of exhaust leaks, I'm no fan of CO poisoning, and it would be a
poor habit to develop to be permissive in this regard, but with the open
cockpit, and the cylinder heads in the breeze rather than under a cowling,
Is there much difference between exhaust leaking out at the head vs. at the
end of the pipe a foot away give or take?
I suppose another issue may be heating components near the head. What are
the other risks?
Andrew
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I stand corrected. Per the installation guide printed at ACS for the
> blo-proof gaskets currently being discussed:
>
> "2 gaskets used per cylinder, with raised beads interlocked facing the
> exhaust stack flange..."
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/**catalog/eppages/**
> airbornesolidcopperbloproofgas**kets.php<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/airbornesolidcopperbloproofgaskets.php>
>
> And the RAPCO gasket Oscar's A&P recommends:
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/**catalog/eppages/**rapcoexhaustgas.php<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/rapcoexhaustgas.php>
>
> The reason I didn't buy the spiral wound RAPCO gasket is because I would
> have had to trim it for one of the bolts to fit, and I was lazy.
>
> Note to self - check the exhaust gaskets for leaks next time I go flying...
>
>
> On 12/07/2011 11:00 AM, Oscar Zuniga wrote:
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga<taildrags@hotmail.com
>> >
>>
>>
>> From my A&P:
>>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter. Place the gasket in the nearest trash container
>>> and buy the good gaskets. Then you don't have to ask the question.
>>> Those cheap stamped gaskets and the good RAPCO exhaust gaskets
>>> both cost $1.25 ea at Aircraft Spuce. Buy the good ones.
>>> I won't use the others.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Provo, UT
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| Subject: | Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
Speaking of exhaust gaskets:
I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaust hold-on
nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those threads to keep th
ose nuts on there in that very hot location?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 exhaust gasket |
The issue is if there is a leak at the exhaust/engine union, the hot
exhaust gases could eat through the aluminum engine block and that would
be no fun to fix.
Dan
On 12/07/2011 12:20 PM, Andrew Eldredge wrote:
> This discussion has inspired me to look for the installation guide for
> the parts I bought...
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pdf/GasketInsert.pdf
>
> It mentions two per cylinder may be used if desired, and that they
> should be re-torqued after a hot run. That seems like a good idea. I
> didn't buy enough of them to use two per cylinder,
>
> Speaking of exhaust leaks, I'm no fan of CO poisoning, and it would be
> a poor habit to develop to be permissive in this regard, but with the
> open cockpit, and the cylinder heads in the breeze rather than under a
> cowling, Is there much difference between exhaust leaking out at the
> head vs. at the end of the pipe a foot away give or take?
>
> I suppose another issue may be heating components near the head. What
> are the other risks?
>
> Andrew
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
On 12/07/2011 12:36 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
> Speaking of exhaust gaskets:
> I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaust
> hold-on nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those
> threads to keep those nuts on there in that very hot location?
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
Wait. What? Those nuts are supposed to be self tightening since the
rate of expansion of the brass is different (greater) than steel. Did
you torque them correctly?
I think the studs on my exhaust bolts have holes in them, so I could use
safety wire. And I bet a little gob of red RTV stuck in the threads
wouldn't hurt and it would still come off pretty easily should I need to
take the pipes off.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
In my case, I ordered a new stud, which was brass as well. As the stud
expands faster than the steel, it would loosen. I suppose the idea then,
is to torque them down while they're hot, then they will tighten as they
cool. Wikipedia has the coefficients at 19e-6 and 10.8e-6 for brass and
steel, respectively, Nearly a factor of 2. I'm glad we started talking
about this.
Fresno Airparts sent me more studs than I asked for instead of the A-65
manual I asked for. I'm glad we had this discussion.
Andrew
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/07/2011 12:36 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Speaking of exhaust gaskets:
>> I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaust
>> hold-on nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those
>> threads to keep those nuts on there in that very hot location?
>> Dan Helsper
>> Puryear, TN
>>
>
> Wait. What? Those nuts are supposed to be self tightening since the rate
> of expansion of the brass is different (greater) than steel. Did you
> torque them correctly?
>
> I think the studs on my exhaust bolts have holes in them, so I could use
> safety wire. And I bet a little gob of red RTV stuck in the threads
> wouldn't hurt and it would still come off pretty easily should I need to
> take the pipes off.
>
> Dan
>
>
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Provo, UT
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| Subject: | Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
The exhaust studs are not brass...
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Andrew Eldredge
<andrew.eldredge@gmail.com>wrote:
> In my case, I ordered a new stud, which was brass as well. As the stud
> expands faster than the steel, it would loosen. I suppose the idea then,
> is to torque them down while they're hot, then they will tighten as they
> cool. Wikipedia has the coefficients at 19e-6 and 10.8e-6 for brass and
> steel, respectively, Nearly a factor of 2. I'm glad we started talking
> about this.
>
> Fresno Airparts sent me more studs than I asked for instead of the A-65
> manual I asked for. I'm glad we had this discussion.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/07/2011 12:36 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Speaking of exhaust gaskets:
>>> I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaust
>>> hold-on nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those
>>> threads to keep those nuts on there in that very hot location?
>>> Dan Helsper
>>> Puryear, TN
>>>
>>
>> Wait. What? Those nuts are supposed to be self tightening since the
>> rate of expansion of the brass is different (greater) than steel. Did you
>> torque them correctly?
>>
>> I think the studs on my exhaust bolts have holes in them, so I could use
>> safety wire. And I bet a little gob of red RTV stuck in the threads
>> wouldn't hurt and it would still come off pretty easily should I need to
>> take the pipes off.
>>
>> Dan
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
Well, I thought I did. Dan, I didn't think about the different expansion ra
tes as a method of security. I will make sure in the future. Also, I'll put
on a bit-o-rtv just for good luck.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nut
s
On 12/07/2011 12:36 PM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
Speaking of exhaust gaskets:
I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaust
hold-on nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those
threads to keep those nuts on there in that very hot location?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
Wait. What? Those nuts are supposed to be self tightening since the
ate of expansion of the brass is different (greater) than steel. Did
ou torque them correctly?
I think the studs on my exhaust bolts have holes in them, so I could use
afety wire. And I bet a little gob of red RTV stuck in the threads
ouldn't hurt and it would still come off pretty easily should I need to
ake the pipes off.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
The replacement Studs I have have the appearance of brass. I was suprised
by this, as none of the existing studs look like that. I figured it was
ignorance on my part. I'm sure there is something to this that I don't
know still..
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Well, I thought I did. Dan, I didn't think about the different expansion
> rates as a method of security. I will make sure in the future. Also, I'll
> put on a bit-o-rtv just for good luck.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 12:56 pm
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust
> nuts
>
>
>
> On 12/07/2011 12:36 PM, helspersew@aol.com
> wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of exhaust gaskets:
> > I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaust
> > hold-on nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those
> > threads to keep those nuts on there in that very hot location?
> > Dan Helsper
> > Puryear, TN
>
> Wait. What? Those nuts are supposed to be self tightening since the
> rate of expansion of the brass is different (greater) than steel. Did
> you torque them correctly?
>
> I think the studs on my exhaust bolts have holes in them, so I could use
> safety wire. And I bet a little gob of red RTV stuck in the threads
> wouldn't hurt and it would still come off pretty easily should I need to
> take the pipes off.
>
> Dan
>
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| Subject: | Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
You don't suppose they sent you the 18K gold ones in error?
Jack
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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts
The replacement Studs I have have the appearance of brass. I was suprised
by this, as none of the existing studs look like that. I figured it was
ignorance on my part. I'm sure there is something to this that I don't know
still..
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
Well, I thought I did. Dan, I didn't think about the different expansion
rates as a method of security. I will make sure in the future. Also, I'll
put on a bit-o-rtv just for good luck.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts
On 12/07/2011 12:36 PM, helspersew@aol.com
wrote:
>
> Speaking of exhaust gaskets:
> I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaust
> hold-on nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those
> threads to keep those nuts on there in that very hot location?
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
Wait. What? Those nuts are supposed to be self tightening since the
rate of expansion of the brass is different (greater) than steel. Did
you torque them correctly?
I think the studs on my exhaust bolts have holes in them, so I could use
safety wire. And I bet a little gob of red RTV stuck in the threads
wouldn't hurt and it would still come off pretty easily should I need to
take the pipes off.
Dan
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| Subject: | Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
Perhaps they are cadmium plated, which has a golden color. They'd better be
steel. Are they magnetic?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts
The replacement Studs I have have the appearance of brass. I was suprised
by this, as none of the existing studs look like that. I figured it was
ignorance on my part. I'm sure there is something to this that I don't know
still..
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
Well, I thought I did. Dan, I didn't think about the different expansion
rates as a method of security. I will make sure in the future. Also, I'll
put on a bit-o-rtv just for good luck.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts
On 12/07/2011 12:36 PM, helspersew@aol.com
wrote:
>
> Speaking of exhaust gaskets:
> I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaust
> hold-on nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those
> threads to keep those nuts on there in that very hot location?
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
Wait. What? Those nuts are supposed to be self tightening since the
rate of expansion of the brass is different (greater) than steel. Did
you torque them correctly?
I think the studs on my exhaust bolts have holes in them, so I could use
safety wire. And I bet a little gob of red RTV stuck in the threads
wouldn't hurt and it would still come off pretty easily should I need to
take the pipes off.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
They ain't brass, that's for sure. But to tell, I would suggest a cow
magnet. :P
My Dad has had one on the side of the toolbox for years.....not good for
much beyond, well, magneting a cow. Usually... :P
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> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Eldredge
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:06 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust
> nuts****
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> The replacement Studs I have have the appearance of brass. I was suprise
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> by this, as none of the existing studs look like that. I figured it was
> ignorance on my part. I'm sure there is something to this that I don't
> know still..****
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:****
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> Well, I thought I did. Dan, I didn't think about the different expansion
> rates as a method of security. I will make sure in the future. Also, I'll
> put on a bit-o-rtv just for good luck.****
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> Dan Helsper****
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 12:56 pm
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust
> nuts****
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> On 12/07/2011 12:36 PM, helspersew@aol.com****
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> > Speaking of exhaust gaskets:****
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> > I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaust
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> > hold-on nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those****
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> > threads to keep those nuts on there in that very hot location?****
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> > Dan Helsper****
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> > ****Puryear**, **TN********
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> Wait. What? Those nuts are supposed to be self tightening since the ***
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> rate of expansion of the brass is different (greater) than steel. Did **
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> you torque them correctly?****
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> I think the studs on my exhaust bolts have holes in them, so I could use
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> safety wire. And I bet a little gob of red RTV stuck in the threads ****
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> wouldn't hurt and it would still come off pretty easily should I need to
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> take the pipes off.****
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| Subject: | Re: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust nuts |
As an aside, I'm not just pissing in the wind in the way that Ken Heide
assuredly hates ;)
I spent some time in an engine shop reworking cylinders....they are not
brass. :)
Ryan
do not archive
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> They ain't brass, that's for sure. But to tell, I would suggest a cow
> magnet. :P
>
> My Dad has had one on the side of the toolbox for years.....not good for
> much beyond, well, magneting a cow. Usually... :P
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wro
te:
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>> ** ** **
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>> Perhaps they are cadmium plated, which has a golden color. They=92d bet
ter
>> be steel. Are they magnetic?****
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>> Jack Phillips****
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>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia****
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>> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
>> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Eldredg
e
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:06 PM
>> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass
>> exhaust nuts****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> The replacement Studs I have have the appearance of brass. I was
>> suprised by this, as none of the existing studs look like that. I figur
ed
>> it was ignorance on my part. I'm sure there is something to this that I
>> don't know still..****
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Well, I thought I did. Dan, I didn't think about the different expansion
>> rates as a method of security. I will make sure in the future. Also, I'l
l
>> put on a bit-o-rtv just for good luck.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Dan Helsper****
>>
>> ****Puryear**, **TN********
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
>> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 12:56 pm
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was A-65 exhaust gasket, now brass exhaust
>> nuts****
>>
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>> ** **
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>> On 12/07/2011 12:36 PM, helspersew@aol.com****
>>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> >** **
>>
>> > Speaking of exhaust gaskets:****
>>
>> > I have lost, on more than one occasion, some of those brass exhaus
t****
>>
>> > hold-on nuts. Is there any kind of goo that can be put on those***
*
>>
>> > threads to keep those nuts on there in that very hot location?****
>>
>> > Dan Helsper****
>>
>> > ****Puryear**, **TN********
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Wait. What? Those nuts are supposed to be self tightening since the **
**
>>
>> rate of expansion of the brass is different (greater) than steel. Did *
***
>>
>> you torque them correctly?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I think the studs on my exhaust bolts have holes in them, so I could use
****
>>
>> safety wire. And I bet a little gob of red RTV stuck in the threads ***
*
>>
>> wouldn't hurt and it would still come off pretty easily should I need to
****
>>
>> take the pipes off.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dan****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> _blank>www.aeroelectric.com****
>>
>> /" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com****
>>
>> =_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com****
>>
>> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution****
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| Subject: | A new Piet takes to the air |
Glad to see the Forum back up and running, after being out of service for about
5 days.
Just found a series of new video clips (filmed just last week) showing Don Sweeney's
new Funk powered Piet. Sounds pretty cool, and looks pretty darn nice. The
sound of a Model A without the radiator in the face.
There are about 19 videos altogether, but here are a few (start-up and take-off
and a nice landing on the grass)
http://youtu.be/o_SpsHHHvHM
http://youtu.be/6BjV4CmAndg
http://youtu.be/iJ-kSLzOInU
Well done, Don!
Bill C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360362#360362
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| Subject: | Matronics Web Services Restored! |
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