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1. 06:33 AM - Re: Pietenpol Tail Aerodynamics (Michael Perez)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: Re: Work table thoughts, and rib jig done! (Michael Perez)
3. 02:49 PM - Re: A new Piet takes to the air (Pieti Lowell)
4. 03:46 PM - magnets (JOSEPH SWITHIN)
5. 04:17 PM - Re: magnets (Gboothe5)
6. 09:12 PM - tail incidence, gap seals, and hangar friends (Oscar Zuniga)
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Tail Aerodynamics |
Crew, before this gets too far out of hand...I see my lame attempt for some backwards
humor has failed, so my apologies to the list. Rather then muddy up the
original post, I started this new thread. (I figured it couldn't hurt with the
Ken and cow thread already out there.)
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Work table thoughts, and rib jig done! |
An alternative:
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I made this bench entirely of 3/4" plywood. As you can see, the main frame
- contains storage shelves which also make it strong and sturdy. Each "wi
ng" is hinged to the frame with piano hinge and supported with removable le
gs.-Castors allow mobility and these particular ones lock.-Both wings f
old down to cover both sides of the main frame, they are held in place with
magnetic catches....you can latch/lock them in this position for security.
Best part...it stores nicely up against a wall or in a corner.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: A new Piet takes to the air |
Don:
The videos are great, how many years did it take to get it in the air and what
were some of the stumbling blocks. just for the reader's knowledge.
She is a beauty, and fast,
Pieti Lowell
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360645#360645
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Sorry I can not resist Gary and Vic, but is that why milk and beef are sources
of iron?
Do Not Archive
Joe in Morris
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Could be. Might also explain why certain cows are attracted to one another..
Do not archive!!!
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOSEPH
SWITHIN
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 3:44 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: magnets
Sorry I can not resist Gary and Vic, but is that why milk and beef are
sources of iron?
Do Not Archive
Joe in Morris
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Subject: | tail incidence, gap seals, and hangar friends |
This post has nothing to do with tail incidence and gap seals except to say that
if you build an Air Camper to the plans and know how to fly stick and rudder, you
will never know or care much about tail incidence, gap seals, symmetrical airfoils,
or
V-tail Bonanazas. You will fly the airplane and love it! Don't over-think the
tailplane geometry, symmetry, aerodynamics, or any of it. Build to plans and you
can tinker with that stuff (like Jack has) later.
I have flown Scout from both cockpits. I prefer flying it from the rear because
there is more room there, it's easier to get in and out (although not by much,
in
my case), and as others have mentioned, the visibility is better there. From the
rear cockpit you can see what the wing, ailerons, tail, and landing gear are doing
as well. In the case of Scout, the rear cockpit is the only position that has a
fuel shutoff valve, carb heat control, and brakes (if those matter to you). What
I
liked about flying from the front cockpit (dual, since my airplane cannot be
soloed from the front cockpit and stay within posted W&B limits)- was the exhilarating
sensation of having the prop and cooling eyebrows *right there* in front of me,
and of being literally right over the landing gear and right under the wing. It
was like driving a sports car, because in the front cockpit you are almost at the
most magical focal point of where everything in the airplane is triangulated, and
in fact you really are, at least as far as the four forces that act on the
airplane (lift, gravity, thrust, and drag). It was fun, but not for long and
relaxed flying. What I do enjoy is flying navigator position up in the front
cockpit with my hangar mate Craig flying the airplane in back. Almost like back
in the early days of flying. We hope to ferry the airplane from Texas to Oregon
next spring in just that fashion... him flying the airplane, me up front with
the GPS and maps, and my hands waving in the propwash, pointing the direction.
Last of all, it was a great joy to see friend and Piet restorer John Kuhfahl today
at the hangar as I was loading all of my tools and "junk" into the UHaul to move
it back to Texas. John has been silent on the list for awhile, busy with
family duties, but still looking forward to joining up on my wing one of these
days when he gets his restoration completed and begins to understand why these
airplanes not only hook us on the ground as we enjoy working with wood and fabric,
but then we get to fall in love with flying all over again as they show us
what real flying is all about. True, honest, and genuine stick and rudder
aviation. If you learn to fly in these airplanes, you learn to FLY. Period.
Merry Christmas, all y'all, and I'll be on Interstate 10 west to Phoenix and then
the L.A. basin by Tuesday, then turning north on Interstate 5 and on up to Oregon
and hopefully home by late Wednesday night. I'll be the 20 ft. UHaul van with
a partially completed 1835 VW powered Flying Squirrel loaded on a vehicle
transporter behind the van. The only one you'll see on the highway with that
particular load.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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