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1. 03:15 AM - Re: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention, great just great (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:16 AM - Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 04:25 AM - Re: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention, great just great (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 04:39 AM - Re: Aileron Cables rubbing on the fuselage frame... (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 04:44 AM - Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum (Gene Rambo)
6. 05:18 AM - Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum (Amsafetyc)
7. 05:18 AM - Piet People- Hi again from Japan (Mark Stanley)
8. 05:22 AM - Re: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention, great just great (Amsafetyc)
9. 06:47 AM - Re: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention, great just great (Amsafetyc)
10. 07:21 AM - Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum (flea)
11. 08:00 AM - Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum (jarheadpilot82)
12. 08:11 AM - Re: Piet builders in northern ill southern wi. (bradandlinda tds.net)
13. 08:40 AM - Re: Piet builders in northern ill southern wi. (John Hofmann)
14. 08:41 AM - Re: One of the Best Flying Stories ever. (namrednos)
15. 09:02 AM - Re: Piet progress (bradandlinda tds.net)
16. 10:30 AM - Re: Piet progress (John Kuhfahl)
17. 12:25 PM - Re: Piet progress (Steve Emo)
18. 01:33 PM - Re: Piet progress (Scott Knowlton)
19. 03:57 PM - A few pics of today's cold flight (shad bell)
20. 04:29 PM - Re: A few pics of today's cold flight (C N Campbell)
21. 05:07 PM - Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum (helspersew@aol.com)
22. 06:24 PM - Re: Piet builders in northern ill southern wi. (flea)
23. 07:39 PM - Re: Piet builders in northern ill southern wi. (bill55)
24. 07:41 PM - Tires (Baldeagle)
25. 08:12 PM - Re: Tires (Marvin Haught)
26. 08:19 PM - Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum (Gene Rambo)
27. 08:29 PM - Re: A few pics of today's cold flight (aerocarjake)
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| Subject: | Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention, |
great just great
Sorry to hear you're laid up, John. Maybe now's the time to lay out that
glass panel for your Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:20 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention,
great just great
Well build fans I had to suspend Buildapalooza for a while, Was in the
hospital Friday for shoulder surgery, I am not sure what he actually did
however it musta been good because it hurt a bunch, still does. I figure
hangar days will be minimal and progress even less.
I figured being out of work this would be a good time to get it done,
unfortunately it cuts into the Buildapalooza I suppose you cant always get
what you want.
As soon as I can Ill be back at the build, this year is not turning out like
I planned.
Do not archive
John
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| Subject: | Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum |
These will become highly sought after. I can just see my heirs on Antiques
Roadshow being amazed when the appraiser tells them how much its worth!!
Placed my request for order off-list. Wanted to be the first one on my bloc
k!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: AMsafetyC <AMsafetyC@aol.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 12, 2011 8:40 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: shamelwaa uas of the forum
I know that this is both shameless and unorthodox use of our beloved board,
however I have no other way to contact everyone at large at such an import
ant time. However I thought it important enough to run the risk of such an
action.
I have been successful in securing special introductory pricing concessions
from the owner of www.AristoKrafts.com to create a special series of Chri
stmas ornaments for the Pietenpol Builders and owners community. For a limi
ted time She will accept pre Christmas orders at the special price to creat
e your own personalized ornament depicting your Pietenpol on the ornament w
ith the tail number and your particular scheme.
Each ornament is a hand painted artistic rendition of your Pietenpol its th
e perfect gif for the flyer in your family, the Piet in your hangar and an
inspiration for the builder. The good news is that even if you don't have i
t completed but would like your own Ornament you can order one anyway just
provide your tail number detailed color scheme and engine selection and you
order will be processed as received and assigned its authentication number
in the series with out duplication.
All this for the low introductory price of $19.99 plus shipping and handlin
g but wait if you order 4 or more the shipping is free. Exclusive of rush o
rders or special handling requests or out of the USA shipments. This a spec
ially negotiated price for the Pietenpol Community.
I will put a link on my FB page for you to reference back to.
My apologies, this was just too good not to share with my friends.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention, |
great just great
Get well soon John. Nobody's life ever goes as planned. I guess it would be
pretty boring if it did. I consider myself very fortunate being able to st
art and actually finish building a Pietenpol in one lifetime. Many others a
re not so fortunate, as something usually gets in the way more times than n
ot. Time. money, divorce, job, the list goes on.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: AMsafetyC <AMsafetyC@aol.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 12, 2011 9:22 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention,
great just great
Well build fans I had to suspend Buildapalooza for a while, Was in the hosp
ital Friday for shoulder surgery, I am not sure what he actually did howeve
r it musta been good because it hurt a bunch, still does. I figure hangar d
ays will be minimal and progress even less.
I figured being out of work this would be a good time to get it done, unfor
tunately it cuts into the Buildapalooza I suppose you cant always get what
you want.
As soon as I can Ill be back at the build, this year is not turning out lik
e I planned.
Do not archive
John
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Cables rubbing on the fuselage frame... |
In a few places on my plane, I glued on small blocks of phenolic strategica
lly placed as rub strips. You should have seen the maze of cables/wires/tub
es in back of the pilot seat panel..sheeeeesh! It would be a miracle if it
all fit in properly
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 12, 2011 8:27 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Cables rubbing on the fuselage frame..
.
et>
As I recall, my aileron cables had some interference, which I eliminated by
udicious application of a hammer on the control horns on the torque tube.
Do what you've got to do.
Jack Phillips
X899JP
mith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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rom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
ent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:17 PM
o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Cables rubbing on the fuselage frame...
Hello List,
I have mocked up the flight controls in my Piet and am finding that if the
abaine struts are vertical then the aileron cables rub on the fuselage
rame per the attached image. (Many Piets have their cabaine struts slanted
ft a few inches for weight-and-balance, but I want to protect for some
djustment and allow them to be vertical without control cable rubbing
roblems.)
Question: Has anyone ever moved the aileron control horn aft on the contro
l
ar to help alleviate this problem... or does this just cause some other
roblem I am not aware of.....?!?!? (I am considering 1 & 1/2 inches aft)
Moving the horn aft would also mean that I would have to move the forward
ulley (which is on the control bar) aft and I am not sure if that would be
problem as well......!?!??!
.....or is there some other fix that people have done....?!?!?!?
It also seems like the aileron control cables are awfully close to rubbing
n the cross brace cables for the cabaine struts....!?!?!?
Thanks in advance for any help............
--------
ake Schultz - curator,
ewport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
ead this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360791#360791
ttachments:
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 12, 2011 8:27 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Cables rubbing on the fuselage frame..
.
et>
As I recall, my aileron cables had some interference, which I eliminated by
udicious application of a hammer on the control horns on the torque tube.
Do what you've got to do.
Jack Phillips
X899JP
mith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
ent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:17 PM
o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Cables rubbing on the fuselage frame...
Hello List,
I have mocked up the flight controls in my Piet and am finding that if the
abaine struts are vertical then the aileron cables rub on the fuselage
rame per the attached image. (Many Piets have their cabaine struts slanted
ft a few inches for weight-and-balance, but I want to protect for some
djustment and allow them to be vertical without control cable rubbing
roblems.)
Question: Has anyone ever moved the aileron control horn aft on the contro
l
ar to help alleviate this problem... or does this just cause some other
roblem I am not aware of.....?!?!? (I am considering 1 & 1/2 inches aft)
Moving the horn aft would also mean that I would have to move the forward
ulley (which is on the control bar) aft and I am not sure if that would be
problem as well......!?!??!
.....or is there some other fix that people have done....?!?!?!?
It also seems like the aileron control cables are awfully close to rubbing
n the cross brace cables for the cabaine struts....!?!?!?
Thanks in advance for any help............
--------
ake Schultz - curator,
ewport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
ead this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360791#360791
ttachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/aileron_cables_problem_176.jpg
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| Subject: | shamelwaa uas of the forum |
If Helsper orders one=2C just have her paint two just alike=2C N number NX8
98H. :) Gene
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: shamelwaa uas of the forum
I know that this is both shameless and unorthodox use of our beloved board
=2C
however I have no other way to contact everyone at large at such an importa
nt
time. However I thought it important enough to run the risk of such an
action.
I have been successful in securing special introductory pricing concessions
from the owner of www.AristoKrafts.com to create a
special series of Christmas ornaments for the Pietenpol Builders and owners
community. For a limited time She will accept pre Christmas orders at the
special price to create your own personalized ornament depicting your Piete
npol
on the ornament with the tail number and your particular scheme.
Each ornament is a hand painted artistic rendition of your Pietenpol its
the perfect gif for the flyer in your family=2C the Piet in your hangar and
an
inspiration for the builder. The good news is that even if you don't have i
t
completed but would like your own Ornament you can order one anyway just pr
ovide
your tail number detailed color scheme and engine selection and you order w
ill
be processed as received and assigned its authentication number in the seri
es
with out duplication.
All this for the low introductory price of $19.99 plus shipping and
handling but wait if you order 4 or more the shipping is free. Exclusive of
rush orders or special handling requests or out of the USA shipments. This
a
specially negotiated price for the Pietenpol Community.
I will put a link on my FB page for you to reference back to.
My apologies=2C this was just too good not to share with my friends.
John
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| Subject: | Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum |
This will be number 3
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
> If Helsper orders one, just have her paint two just alike, N number NX898H
. :)
>
> Gene
>
> From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:37:27 -0500
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: shamelwaa uas of the forum
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> I know that this is both shameless and unorthodox use of our beloved board
, however I have no other way to contact everyone at large at such an import
ant time. However I thought it important enough to run the risk of such an a
ction.
>
> I have been successful in securing special introductory pricing concession
s from the owner of www.AristoKrafts.com to create a special series of Chri
stmas ornaments for the Pietenpol Builders and owners community. For a limit
ed time She will accept pre Christmas orders at the special price to create y
our own personalized ornament depicting your Pietenpol on the ornament with t
he tail number and your particular scheme.
>
> Each ornament is a hand painted artistic rendition of your Pietenpol its t
he perfect gif for the flyer in your family, the Piet in your hangar and an i
nspiration for the builder. The good news is that even if you don't have it c
ompleted but would like your own Ornament you can order one anyway just prov
ide your tail number detailed color scheme and engine selection and you orde
r will be processed as received and assigned its authentication number in th
e series with out duplication.
>
> All this for the low introductory price of $19.99 plus shipping and handli
ng but wait if you order 4 or more the shipping is free. Exclusive of rush o
rders or special handling requests or out of the USA shipments. This a speci
ally negotiated price for the Pietenpol Community.
>
> I will put a link on my FB page for you to reference back to.
>
> My apologies, this was just too good not to share with my friends.
>
>
> John
>
>
> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
> " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
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| Subject: | Piet People- Hi again from Japan |
Hi Steve,
I=99m basically NE of Tokyo on the Kanto plains.....one of the
few flat areas in Japan!
Great to hear you visited Japan. As you would have noticed, it is a very
diffrent world to what we are used to!
Both Piets havn=99t had much done on them for quite a while but
here are some photos. (shrunk in size to save bandwidth).
The fuz on wheels (with two aeroplane noise makers in the cockpits) is
#1 Piet. It belongs to a Japanese bloke that I work with.
#2 photo=99s are of my project (way behind #1 Piet). The rib shots
show one panels worth but all of the ribs are now complete.
The fin/rudder are hinged with Vi Kapler=99s hinges.
Hope to get on with things again soon!
Mark
>I'm just curious, where in Japan are you located?
>Do you have any pictures of your Piet projects?
>Steve Ruse
>Norman, OK
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| Subject: | Re: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention, |
great just great
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> Get well soon John. Nobody's life ever goes as planned. I guess it would b
e pretty boring if it did. I consider myself very fortunate being able to st
art and actually finish building a Pietenpol in one lifetime. Many others ar
e not so fortunate, as something usually gets in the way more times than not
. Time. money, divorce, job, the list goes on.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMsafetyC <AMsafetyC@aol.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 12, 2011 9:22 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention,
great just great
>
> Well build fans I had to suspend Buildapalooza for a while, Was in the hos
pital Friday for shoulder surgery, I am not sure what he actually did howeve
r it musta been good because it hurt a bunch, still does. I figure hangar da
ys will be minimal and progress even less.
>
> I figured being out of work this would be a good time to get it done, unfo
rtunately it cuts into the Buildapalooza I suppose you cant always get what y
ou want.
>
> As soon as I can Ill be back at the build, this year is not turning out li
ke I planned.
>
> Do not archive
>
> John
>
>
> _blank>www.aeroelectric.com
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| Subject: | Re: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention, |
great just great
Good thought thanks Jack I got the poor mans version of the EFIS it's called
Rufis it comes with a steam driven altimeter and instructions on what ma ma
ke the fan stop making that loud noise with the wind. They call it quiet mod
e. I'll have to read that chapter closely I am always interested in stealth t
echnology, modern marvels and all that stuff I may go to the hangar and bri
ng the layout materials home. That should be a real hit with the family!
Thanks
John
Please do not archive
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2011, at 6:11 AM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Sorry to hear you=99re laid up, John. Maybe now=99s the time t
o lay out that glass panel for your Pietenpol.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AMsafetyC@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:20 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Buildapalooza suspended for medical intervention,
great just great
>
> Well build fans I had to suspend Buildapalooza for a while, Was in the hos
pital Friday for shoulder surgery, I am not sure what he actually did howeve
r it musta been good because it hurt a bunch, still does. I figure hangar da
ys will be minimal and progress even less.
>
> I figured being out of work this would be a good time to get it done, unfo
rtunately it cuts into the Buildapalooza I suppose you cant always get what y
ou want.
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| Subject: | Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum |
You guys are funny..
Don't suppose she could make one with just the fuse, vertical and horizontal stabs,
no rudder or elevators and 23 loose ribs could she? Maybe put in a temporary
seat made of MDF, just so my Santa ornament can sit in it and make airplane
noises. . .
Jim
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Jim,
Now THAT's funny!
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Re: Piet builders in northern ill southern wi. |
You could look at mine at Burlington Wi. (BUU). Google up NX29NX for
pictures. Brad Williams 262 534-6054.
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:27 PM, schuerrman <sdschuerr@live.com> wrote:
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> Hey, I have my fuse mostly done and I was wondering if there's anyone that
> has a plane I could look at. I've got a stack of visual questions. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Piet builders in northern ill southern wi. |
I have 502R in Hartford. Always looking for an excuse to head to the
airport.
-john-
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2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
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Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Dec 13, 2011, at 10:08 AM, bradandlinda tds.net wrote:
> You could look at mine at Burlington Wi. (BUU). Google up NX29NX for
pictures. Brad Williams 262 534-6054.
>
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WOW Great Story. You need to make a movie!
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Piet progress |
The compression sprins are stiffer than the coil springs. You want the
spring tension to match the effectiveness of the aerodynamic rudder. I
once flew a clipped wing Cub that the owner had put on stiffer t/w
springs. On t/o with the t/w on the ground the rudder input was super
sensitive, and when the tail came up I had to add more rudder to keep it
going straight. Even worse, on landing with correct rudder input, when the
t/w touched down it immediately veered sharply off. It became real squirly
on roll out. With the spring tension matched to the aerodynamic rudder as
the tail comes up on t/o no change in rudder input should be needed. Brad
Williams
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:27 PM, John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm the one restoring/improving a 1970's Piet. I am a self-admitted
> lurker--You guys and this list are the best...In the archives you taught me
> how to hook up my tail wheel. (it was not made steerable originally). I
> am definitely going with compression springs in my cable control. They run
> nicely through the large belly inspection plate I installed.
> Will try to get this guy back together by this spring to formation fly
> with Oscar Zungia before he brings his baby back to Oregon.
> --
> John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
> President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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Brad and all,
Hmm--well I thought I had it figured out. Good point--I hear you.I am
hoping I can adjust out differences between the wheel and the rudder. I put
in some slack on the wheel so the rudder moves before the wheel does. Ill
do some serious taxiing to see how it works. I can always go back to
tension spring. How "bout both? John
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM, bradandlinda tds.net <bradandlinda@tds.net
> wrote:
> The compression sprins are stiffer than the coil springs. You want the
> spring tension to match the effectiveness of the aerodynamic rudder. I
> once flew a clipped wing Cub that the owner had put on stiffer t/w
> springs. On t/o with the t/w on the ground the rudder input was super
> sensitive, and when the tail came up I had to add more rudder to keep it
> going straight. Even worse, on landing with correct rudder input, when the
> t/w touched down it immediately veered sharply off. It became real squirly
> on roll out. With the spring tension matched to the aerodynamic rudder as
> the tail comes up on t/o no change in rudder input should be needed. Brad
> Williams
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:27 PM, John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm the one restoring/improving a 1970's Piet. I am a self-admitted
>> lurker--You guys and this list are the best...In the archives you taught me
>> how to hook up my tail wheel. (it was not made steerable originally). I
>> am definitely going with compression springs in my cable control. They run
>> nicely through the large belly inspection plate I installed.
>> Will try to get this guy back together by this spring to formation fly
>> with Oscar Zungia before he brings his baby back to Oregon.
>> --
>> John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
>> President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Piet progress |
Compression or tension spring is not the question the question is spring rat
e or pounds per inch.
You want the rudder to move easier than the tail wheel.
You want the first few degrees of rudder to actually be somewhat free and no
t hard coupled or you will be dancing.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2011, at 1:27 PM, John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brad and all,
> Hmm--well I thought I had it figured out. Good point--I hear you.I am hopi
ng I can adjust out differences between the wheel and the rudder. I put in s
ome slack on the wheel so the rudder moves before the wheel does. Ill do so
me serious taxiing to see how it works. I can always go back to tension spr
ing. How "bout both? John
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM, bradandlinda tds.net <bradandlinda@tds.n
et> wrote:
> The compression sprins are stiffer than the coil springs. You want the sp
ring tension to match the effectiveness of the aerodynamic rudder. I once f
lew a clipped wing Cub that the owner had put on stiffer t/w springs. On t/
o with the t/w on the ground the rudder input was super sensitive, and when t
he tail came up I had to add more rudder to keep it going straight. Even wo
rse, on landing with correct rudder input, when the t/w touched down it imme
diately veered sharply off. It became real squirly on roll out. With the s
pring tension matched to the aerodynamic rudder as the tail comes up on t/o
no change in rudder input should be needed. Brad Williams
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:27 PM, John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com> wrote
:
>
> I'm the one restoring/improving a 1970's Piet. I am a self-admitted lurker
--You guys and this list are the best...In the archives you taught me how to
hook up my tail wheel. (it was not made steerable originally). I am defin
itely going with compression springs in my cable control. They run nicely th
rough the large belly inspection plate I installed.
> Will try to get this guy back together by this spring to formation fly wit
h Oscar Zungia before he brings his baby back to Oregon.
> --
> John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
> President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
>
>
> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
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| Subject: | Re: Piet progress |
Due to the effect of gyroscopic precession of the prop you will always require
a further input of rudder pressure in a tailwheel aircraft when transitioning
from three point to two point in the take off roll. This is regardless of tailwheel
rigging.
Scott Knowlton.
-----Original Message-----
From: "bradandlinda tds.net" <bradandlinda@tds.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet progress
The compression sprins are stiffer than the coil springs. You want the spring tension
to match the effectiveness of the aerodynamic rudder. I once flew a clipped
wing Cub that the owner had put on stiffer t/w springs. On t/o with the t/w
on the ground the rudder input was super sensitive, and when the tail came
up I had to add more rudder to keep it going straight. Even worse, on landing
with correct rudder input, when the t/w touched down it immediatelyveered sharply
off. It became real squirly on roll out. With the spring tension matched to
the aerodynamic rudder as the tail comes up on t/o no change in rudder input
should be needed. Brad Williams
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:27 PM, John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper@gmail.com <mailto:kuhlcouper@gmail.com> > wrote:
I'm the one restoring/improving a 1970's Piet. I am a self-admitted lurker--You
guys and this list are the best...In the archives you taught me how to hook up
my tail wheel. (it was not made steerable originally). I am definitely going
with compression springs in my cable control. They run nicely through the large
belly inspection plate I installed.
Will try to get this guy back together by this spring to formation fly with Oscar
Zungia before he brings his baby back to Oregon.
--
John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| Subject: | A few pics of today's cold flight |
Well today was the last flight of 92GB for the year.- I went out today af
ter preheating the engine all night, 41 degrees, and overcast/light scatter
ed rain (really nice day for an open cockpit I know).- Went out the 1st t
ime for 10-15 min then it started raining lightly so I went back to the bar
n.- I waited about 30 min after running inside to check the r.a.dar, and
went back out to go mud running in the piet.- I went out the 2nd time for
about 35-40 min and was ok untill my feet and knees got cold (thats right
knee, and left knee, not wee knee).- Now I have to get a bucket of water,
soap and clean the evidence off the tail and lift struts.- The picture o
f the Piet has my Jungster1 next to it, It ain't very big is it?- God wil
ling and the hangar don't burn down, I plan on flying it to brodhead in the
next couple years.
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Shad
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| Subject: | Re: A few pics of today's cold flight |
A friend of mine once built a small Jungster in his carport. I never
saw it after it was finished. It, too, was VERY small.
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:54 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A few pics of today's cold flight
Well today was the last flight of 92GB for the year. I went out
today after preheating the engine all night, 41 degrees, and
overcast/light scattered rain (really nice day for an open cockpit I
know). Went out the 1st time for 10-15 min then it started raining
lightly so I went back to the barn. I waited about 30 min after running
inside to check the r.a.dar, and went back out to go mud running in the
piet. I went out the 2nd time for about 35-40 min and was ok untill my
feet and knees got cold (thats right knee, and left knee, not wee knee).
Now I have to get a bucket of water, soap and clean the evidence off
the tail and lift struts. The picture of the Piet has my Jungster1 next
to it, It ain't very big is it? God willing and the hangar don't burn
down, I plan on flying it to brodhead in the next couple years.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: shamelwaa uas of the forum |
SEE,........ SEE,.......... I TOLD YOU!! Rambo DID copy my paint scheme!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 13, 2011 6:45 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: shamelwaa uas of the forum
If Helsper orders one, just have her paint two just alike, N number NX898H.
:)
Gene
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: shamelwaa uas of the forum
I know that this is both shameless and unorthodox use of our beloved board,
however I have no other way to contact everyone at large at such an import
ant time. However I thought it important enough to run the risk of such an
action.
I have been successful in securing special introductory pricing concessions
from the owner of www.AristoKrafts.com to create a special series of Chri
stmas ornaments for the Pietenpol Builders and owners community. For a limi
ted time She will accept pre Christmas orders at the special price to creat
e your own personalized ornament depicting your Pietenpol on the ornament w
ith the tail number and your particular scheme.
Each ornament is a hand painted artistic rendition of your Pietenpol its th
e perfect gif for the flyer in your family, the Piet in your hangar and an
inspiration for the builder. The good news is that even if you don't have i
t completed but would like your own Ornament you can order one anyway just
provide your tail number detailed color scheme and engine selection and you
order will be processed as received and assigned its authentication number
in the series with out duplication.
All this for the low introductory price of $19.99 plus shipping and handlin
g but wait if you order 4 or more the shipping is free. Exclusive of rush o
rders or special handling requests or out of the USA shipments. This a spec
ially negotiated price for the Pietenpol Community.
I will put a link on my FB page for you to reference back to.
My apologies, this was just too good not to share with my friends.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Piet builders in northern ill southern wi. |
Westcoastpiet also about a gazillion pictures of every conceivable piece and part
on the pietenpol.
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Piet builders in northern ill southern wi. |
I have a Ford powered Sky Scout based at Brodhead. In fact I flew today as it
was 34 degrees but very light wind. I also have an Aircamper in Shullsburg,
WI that I have been building forever. This is Ford powered and it is ready for
cover.
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Where's a good place to get 8.50x6 tires for an experimental airplane?
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I've been using Desser Recaps for years - I've got a set of 8.50 x 6
recaps I use on my Pacer when I fly out to the desert. They have been
great.
http://www.desser.com/ A lot cheaper than new tires and I've run at
least 10 pairs over the years - got one bad tire.
M. Haught
On 12/13/2011 9:38 PM, Baldeagle wrote:
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| Subject: | shamelwaa uas of the forum |
see=2C see=2C there's the MEAN man daddy!!!! :) do not archive
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: shamelwaa uas of the forum
From: helspersew@aol.com
SEE=2C........ SEE=2C.......... I TOLD YOU!! Rambo DID copy my paint sche
me!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear=2C TN
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Tue=2C Dec 13=2C 2011 6:45 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: shamelwaa uas of the forum
If Helsper orders one=2C just have her paint two just alike=2C N number NX8
98H. :)
Gene
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: shamelwaa uas of the forum
I know that this is both shameless and unorthodox use of our beloved board
=2C however I have no other way to contact everyone at large at such an imp
ortant time. However I thought it important enough to run the risk of such
an action.
I have been successful in securing special introductory pricing concessions
from the owner of www.AristoKrafts.com to create a special series of Chri
stmas ornaments for the Pietenpol Builders and owners community. For a limi
ted time She will accept pre Christmas orders at the special price to creat
e your own personalized ornament depicting your Pietenpol on the ornament w
ith the tail number and your particular scheme.
Each ornament is a hand painted artistic rendition of your Pietenpol its th
e perfect gif for the flyer in your family=2C the Piet in your hangar and a
n inspiration for the builder. The good news is that even if you don't have
it completed but would like your own Ornament you can order one anyway jus
t provide your tail number detailed color scheme and engine selection and y
ou order will be processed as received and assigned its authentication numb
er in the series with out duplication.
All this for the low introductory price of $19.99 plus shipping and handlin
g but wait if you order 4 or more the shipping is free. Exclusive of rush o
rders or special handling requests or out of the USA shipments. This a spec
ially negotiated price for the Pietenpol Community.
I will put a link on my FB page for you to reference back to.
My apologies=2C this was just too good not to share with my friends.
John
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| Subject: | Re: A few pics of today's cold flight |
That looks like one cold flight...!
Thanks for posting........
Do not archive
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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