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1. 04:21 AM - Re: EAA Work Bench (johnnysdrop)
2. 04:33 AM - Re: EAA Work Bench (Kringle)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: EAA Work Bench (Michael Perez)
4. 06:26 AM - Operation Arrow Fest Update #1 (Michael Perez)
5. 08:04 AM - Re: Operation Arrow Fest Update #1 (Ben Charvet)
6. 02:57 PM - Covering question (dgaldrich)
7. 04:10 PM - Re: Covering question (Catdesigns)
8. 04:30 PM - Re: Operation Arrow Fest Update #1 (Michael Perez)
9. 04:53 PM - Re: Covering question (Michael Perez)
10. 05:18 PM - Re: Covering question (helspersew@aol.com)
11. 06:00 PM - Re: Covering question (Ryan Mueller)
12. 06:56 PM - Re: Covering question (Dave Millikan)
13. 07:07 PM - Metal primer (tdudley@umn.edu)
14. 07:21 PM - Re: Metal primer (Jack Phillips)
15. 09:03 PM - Re: Metal primer (Bill Church)
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Work Bench |
Kringle
How do you level the tables and how will you join them together?
They look good!
English Johnny
On rib 13 now.
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Work Bench |
The casters lock from rolling and swiveling. I will just shim under them on the
floor. I will clamp the tables together with wood clamps like the ones shown
in the construction pics.
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Work Bench |
Sweet looking tables!-
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
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| Subject: | Operation Arrow Fest Update #1 |
Today is the start of day six of my Holiday build fest.- After spending a
few days with family, I really got started last Monday on the covering of
the tail pieces. So far it has been fantastic!- To date I have the vert.s
tab. finished, the rudder 98% finished and one elevator underway. Today, I
will finish the rudder, continue on elevator #1 and start elevator #2. Once
these and the horizontal stabilizer-are finished, I will move on to the
ailerons.
-
It was slow at first, being sure I had the processes and order of operation
correct, but now things-progress a little faster. Having a good temperat
ure in the shop helps the glue to dry and working multiple items at a time
-keep things moving.- Once I learned the proper methods for glueing fab
ric to wood and fabric to fabric, it was time to learn how to handle curves
and tape curves. Then I moved on to learning rib stitching layout and stit
ching knots. Now I know how to do all of the above, use the iron to do the
curving and tape work and rib stitch.- It is a great feeling to learn new
skills and actually be faily good at them!
-
My ambitious plan was to have the tail pieces completely done, painted and
ready for flight by the end of my three weeks off.- Right now, it appears
that I may just make it!
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Operation Arrow Fest Update #1 |
On 12/22/2011 9:23 AM, Michael Perez wrote:
> Today is the start of day six of my Holiday build fest. After
> spending a few days with family, I really got started last Monday on
> the covering of the tail pieces. So far it has been fantastic! To
> date I have the vert.stab. finished, the rudder 98% finished and one
> elevator underway. Today, I will finish the rudder, continue on
> elevator #1 and start elevator #2. Once these and the horizontal
> stabilizer are finished, I will move on to the ailerons.
> It was slow at first, being sure I had the processes and order of
> operation correct, but now things progress a little faster. Having a
> good temperature in the shop helps the glue to dry and working
> multiple items at a time keep things moving. Once I learned the
> proper methods for glueing fabric to wood and fabric to fabric, it was
> time to learn how to handle curves and tape curves. Then I moved on to
> learning rib stitching layout and stitching knots. Now I know how to
> do all of the above, use the iron to do the curving and tape work and
> rib stitch. It is a great feeling to learn new skills and actually be
> faily good at them!
> My ambitious plan was to have the tail pieces completely done, painted
> and ready for flight by the end of my three weeks off. Right now, it
> appears that I may just make it!
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
The Stewart System glue sure makes it easy to handle the curves, doesn't it!
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Covering question |
Some of you may remember that back in October/November, Barnstormers had an ad
for a Pietenpol project that was up in Warren, ME. 6 months of the year, I live
about 35 miles from there so road trip it is. Bought the project on the spot
for several reasons. 1. The fellow and his son who built the thing also restored
and built classy wooden canoes; Old Town and the like. I saw the level
of craftsmanship on them and on the Piet was, embarrassingly, better than mine
and not just a little. 2. The guy who did the welding of the landing gear,
engine mount, and so on, is the head guy in the restoration shop at Owl's Head
Transportation Museum (ohtm.org). They fly rides in a Waco and Stearman and
have made FLYING replicas of a Bleriot, a Taube, a Curtiss D, and a bunch of
others. He knows how to weld. 3. The father and son did not work in a vacuum.
Some of you may know Karl Erickson. He's been around Piets for years and
has owned, I think, 3. He provided the equivalent of Tech Counselor advice.
4. The project was essentially ready for cover, saving me probably 2 years.
The plane had been assembled and the control rigging done so the major project
groups left are covering, FWF, and instruments.
This is all by way of preface. The duo covered the tail feathers and ailerons
with ceconite and butyrate dope using 1.7 oz fabric and there is enough 1.7 oz
fabric to do the rest of the plane. Meanwhile, I have purchased enough 2.7 oz
fabric to do an entire airplane and gotten a start on purchasing the Stewart
system glue and stuff.
Finally, the question. What do I do with the tail feathers and 1.7 oz fabric?
Looks like I have several choices. 1. Leave the tail feathers as is and do
the rest of the plane with either 1.7 or 2.7 fabric A local A&P says that you
shouldn't mix em. 2. Strip the old dope and fabric off and start over with
either 1.7 or 2.7 oz fabric. 3. Just continue with the dope and use the Stewart
another day. All choices imply a question of which fabric is preferable.
I am inclined to option 2 with the heavier fabric on at least the fuselage.
Any inputs are appreciated. I've looked at the archives for fabric preference
and found a spectrum of opinions. Does the use of the Stewart system change any
of them?
Included in the pile o stuff was a set (4) of cub lift struts. For those of you
who have used them, would you do it again or just start with new? Again, the
archives are ambivalent.
Thanks in advance.
Dave Aldrich
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| Subject: | Re: Covering question |
Dave
If I had bought an airframe ready to cover it would have saved me 11 (and still
counting) years of building not two years.
To name a few long time flyers Mike Cuy, Earl Myers and Steve Eldredge used 1.7
oz. on their whole plane. I plan on using it too because I will eventually get
to that point.
>From the archives
Greg- Superflite was pretty good to
deal with in sending me their 1.7 oz non-cert. fabric. They have a web
site too which is: http://www.superflite.com/cov.html#fabric They are
located in IL.
PS- the only thing I had to hunt around for was matching 1.7 oz. finishing
tapes....the pinked edged stuff you put over ribs, leading edges, trailing
edges etc. that comes in all kinds of various widths depending on your
need. I had to order those hit and miss from whomever had them in the
1.7 oz weight. Wicks, ACS, some independent Polyfiber dealers.
If you use the 1.7 oz. try to use 1.7 oz tapes too. The reason for this is
that the 1.7 oz has a fine weave that will fill nicely. (read less coats, less
sanding, less weight, nicer finished appearance) If you use heavier grades
of fabric for your finishing tapes you'll find number one, they are more
stiff and
don't lay down or curve around as easy as the lighter tapes, and number two,
they have a more coarse weave to them and will take more schtuff to fill the
weave to match the rest of your finish. It is fine to do though......just
some
observations.
Mike C.
David;
I always use the 1.7oz fabric with the textbook Stits or now the Polyfiber
process. It gives a nice low luster finish plus I used the flat rib chord
with the knots pulled inside the fabric. That makes for a really nice final
finish to the rib stitching, no knots.
Mike Cuy had a standard dope finish with a brightener added in his final
coat to give it a VERY high gloss...........I just wanted to stay with an
antique finish which mostly were low luster even then except for the
high-priced ships with hand rubbed Nitrate/Butyrate (dope) finishes.....
Earl Myers
I used the 1.7oz generic dacron from As&S. It was about
$3.65 a yard. I used the generic tapes, and poly fiber products to glue it
down. rib stitching was with round cord, not flat.
Steve E.
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Operation Arrow Fest Update #1 |
It really does! The Ekobond and some heat work great!
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
--- On Thu, 12/22/11, Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Operation Arrow Fest Update #1
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 11:01 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/22/2011 9:23 AM, Michael Perez wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Today is the start of day six of my
> Holiday build
> fest. After spending a few days with
> family, I really
> got started last Monday on the covering of
> the tail
> pieces. So far it has been fantastic!
> To date I have
> the vert.stab. finished, the rudder 98%
> finished
> and one elevator underway. Today, I will
> finish the
> rudder, continue on elevator #1 and start
> elevator #2.
> Once these and the horizontal
> stabilizerare finished, I
> will move on to the ailerons.
>
> It was slow at first, being sure I had
> the processes
> and order of operation correct, but now
> thingsprogress
> a little faster. Having a good temperature
> in the shop
> helps the glue to dry and working multiple
> items at a
> timekeep things moving. Once I
> learned the proper
> methods for glueing fabric to
> wood and
> fabric to fabric, it was time to learn how
> to handle
> curves and tape curves. Then I moved on to
> learning rib
> stitching layout and stitching knots. Now I
> know how to
> do all of the above, use the iron to do the
> curving and
> tape work and rib stitch. It is a
> great feeling to
> learn new skills and actually be faily good
> at them!
>
> My ambitious plan was to have the tail
> pieces
> completely done, painted and ready for
> flight by the end
> of my three weeks off. Right now, it
> appears that I may
> just make it!
>
>
>
> Michael Perez
>
> Karetaker Aero
>
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
>
>
>
>
> The Stewart System glue sure makes it easy to handle
> the curves,
> doesn't it!
>
>
>
> --
> Ben Charvet, PharmD
> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
>
>
>
>
>
>
> provided
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Covering question |
Well, I am covering now and only have limited experience with Superflite's 104
fabric. (1.7 oz) Their fabric comes 72" wide which is perfect to cover the wings,
other places have 60" I believe. Any idea how wide your 1.7 is?
They also sell an entire line of 1.7 oz tapes. If you decide to keep the 1.7 oz
fabric and need tapes, check them out. (If you decide to sell said fabric, I
would be interested...I need more to do the fuselage and wings.)
If it were my decision, I would go for lighter weight. Since the tail is done,
continue to do the rest of the plane with the 1.7. If you use it, I think you'll
love the Ekobond.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
--- On Thu, 12/22/11, dgaldrich <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> From: dgaldrich <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering question
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 5:55 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
>
> Some of you may remember that back in October/November,
> Barnstormers had an ad for a Pietenpol project that was up
> in Warren, ME. 6 months of the year, I live about 35
> miles from there so road trip it is. Bought the
> project on the spot for several reasons. 1. The
> fellow and his son who built the thing also restored and
> built classy wooden canoes; Old Town and the like. I
> saw the level of craftsmanship on them and on the Piet was,
> embarrassingly, better than mine and not just a
> little. 2. The guy who did the welding of the
> landing gear, engine mount, and so on, is the head guy in
> the restoration shop at Owl's Head Transportation Museum
> (ohtm.org). They fly rides in a Waco and Stearman and
> have made FLYING replicas of a Bleriot, a Taube, a Curtiss
> D, and a bunch of others. He knows how to weld.
> 3. The father and son did not work in a vacuum.
> Some of you may know Karl Erickson. He's been around
> Piets for years and has owned, I think, 3. He provided
> the equivalent !
> of Tech Counselor advice. 4. The project was
> essentially ready for cover, saving me probably 2
> years. The plane had been assembled and the control
> rigging done so the major project groups left are covering,
> FWF, and instruments.
>
> This is all by way of preface. The duo covered the
> tail feathers and ailerons with ceconite and butyrate dope
> using 1.7 oz fabric and there is enough 1.7 oz fabric to do
> the rest of the plane. Meanwhile, I have purchased
> enough 2.7 oz fabric to do an entire airplane and gotten a
> start on purchasing the Stewart system glue and stuff.
>
> Finally, the question. What do I do with the tail
> feathers and 1.7 oz fabric? Looks like I have several
> choices. 1. Leave the tail feathers as is and do
> the rest of the plane with either 1.7 or 2.7 fabric A
> local A&P says that you shouldn't mix em. 2.
> Strip the old dope and fabric off and start over with either
> 1.7 or 2.7 oz fabric. 3. Just continue with the
> dope and use the Stewart another day. All choices
> imply a question of which fabric is preferable. I am
> inclined to option 2 with the heavier fabric on at least the
> fuselage.
>
> Any inputs are appreciated. I've looked at the
> archives for fabric preference and found a spectrum of
> opinions. Does the use of the Stewart system change
> any of them?
>
> Included in the pile o stuff was a set (4) of cub lift
> struts. For those of you who have used them, would you
> do it again or just start with new? Again, the
> archives are ambivalent.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dave Aldrich
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Covering question |
Covered NX929DH in 1.7 oz. fabric. Glad I did.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: dgaldrich <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 22, 2011 4:58 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering question
>
Some of you may remember that back in October/November, Barnstormers had an
ad
or a Pietenpol project that was up in Warren, ME. 6 months of the year, I
live
bout 35 miles from there so road trip it is. Bought the project on the spo
t
or several reasons. 1. The fellow and his son who built the thing also
estored and built classy wooden canoes; Old Town and the like. I saw the l
evel
f craftsmanship on them and on the Piet was, embarrassingly, better than mi
ne
nd not just a little. 2. The guy who did the welding of the landing gear,
ngine mount, and so on, is the head guy in the restoration shop at Owl's He
ad
ransportation Museum (ohtm.org). They fly rides in a Waco and Stearman and
ave made FLYING replicas of a Bleriot, a Taube, a Curtiss D, and a bunch of
thers. He knows how to weld. 3. The father and son did not work in a vac
uum.
ome of you may know Karl Erickson. He's been around Piets for years and ha
s
wned, I think, 3. He provided the equivalent !
of Tech Counselor advice. 4. The project was essentially ready for cover,
aving me probably 2 years. The plane had been assembled and the control
igging done so the major project groups left are covering, FWF, and
nstruments.
This is all by way of preface. The duo covered the tail feathers and ailer
ons
ith ceconite and butyrate dope using 1.7 oz fabric and there is enough 1.7
oz
abric to do the rest of the plane. Meanwhile, I have purchased enough 2.7
oz
abric to do an entire airplane and gotten a start on purchasing the Stewart
ystem glue and stuff.
Finally, the question. What do I do with the tail feathers and 1.7 oz fabr
ic?
ooks like I have several choices. 1. Leave the tail feathers as is and do
the
est of the plane with either 1.7 or 2.7 fabric A local A&P says that you
houldn't mix em. 2. Strip the old dope and fabric off and start over with
ither 1.7 or 2.7 oz fabric. 3. Just continue with the dope and use the
tewart another day. All choices imply a question of which fabric is
referable. I am inclined to option 2 with the heavier fabric on at least t
he
uselage.
Any inputs are appreciated. I've looked at the archives for fabric prefere
nce
nd found a spectrum of opinions. Does the use of the Stewart system change
any
f them?
Included in the pile o stuff was a set (4) of cub lift struts. For those o
f you
ho have used them, would you do it again or just start with new? Again, th
e
rchives are ambivalent.
Thanks in advance.
Dave Aldrich
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| Subject: | Re: Covering question |
And it came out looking pretty good. The best copy of Gene's Piet that one
could possibly make. ;)
do not archive
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:14 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Covered NX929DH in 1.7 oz. fabric. Glad I did.
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dgaldrich <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thu, Dec 22, 2011 4:58 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering question
>
>
> Some of you may remember that back in October/November, Barnstormers had an ad
> for a Pietenpol project that was up in Warren, ME. 6 months of the year, I live
> about 35 miles from there so road trip it is. Bought the project on the spot
> for several reasons. 1. The fellow and his son who built the thing also
> restored and built classy wooden canoes; Old Town and the like. I saw the level
> of craftsmanship on them and on the Piet was, embarrassingly, better than mine
> and not just a little. 2. The guy who did the welding of the landing gear,
> engine mount, and so on, is the head guy in the restoration shop at Owl's Head
> Transportation Museum (ohtm.org). They fly rides in a Waco and Stearman and
> have made FLYING replicas of a Bleriot, a Taube, a Curtiss D, and a bunch of
> others. He knows how to weld. 3. The father and son did not work in a vacuum.
> Some of you may know Karl Erickson. He's been around Piets for years and has
> owned, I think, 3. He provided the equivalent !
> of Tech Counselor advice. 4. The project was essentially ready for cover,
> saving me probably 2 years. The plane had been assembled and the control
> rigging done so the major project groups left are covering, FWF, and
> instruments.
>
> This is all by way of preface. The duo covered the tail feathers and ailerons
> with ceconite and butyrate dope using 1.7 oz fabric and there is enough 1.7 oz
> fabric to do the rest of the plane. Meanwhile, I have purchased enough 2.7 oz
> fabric to do an entire airplane and gotten a start on purchasing the Stewart
> system glue and stuff.
>
> Finally, the question. What do I do with the tail feathers and 1.7 oz fabric?
> Looks like I have several choices. 1. Leave the tail feathers as is and do
the
> rest of the plane with either 1.7 or 2.7 fabric A local A&P says that you
> shouldn't mix em. 2. Strip the old dope and fabric off and start over with
> either 1.7 or 2.7 oz fabric. 3. Just continue with the dope and use the
> Stewart another day. All choices imply a question of which fabric is
> preferable. I am inclined to option 2 with the heavier fabric on at least the
> fuselage.
>
> Any inputs are appreciated. I've looked at the archives for fabric preference
> and found a spectrum of opinions. Does the use of the Stewart system change
any
> of them?
>
> Included in the pile o stuff was a set (4) of cub lift struts. For those of
you
> who have used them, would you do it again or just start with new? Again, the
> archives are ambivalent.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dave Aldrich
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361493#361493
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Ten yers ago I covered my Starduster Too with Stits 90X
Its no longer sold but the light- fabric has held up well.
Dave N11DM
--- On Fri, 12/23/11, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Covering question
And it came out looking pretty good. The best copy of Gene's Piet that one
could possibly make. -;)
do not archive
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:14 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
Covered NX929DH in 1.7 oz. fabric. Glad I did.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Some of you may remember that back in October/November, Barnstormers had an
ad
for a Pietenpol project that was up in Warren, ME. 6 months of the year, I
live
about 35 miles from there so road trip it is. Bought the project on the sp
ot
for several reasons. 1. The fellow and his son who built the thing also
restored and built classy wooden canoes; Old Town and the like. I saw the
level
of craftsmanship on them and on the Piet was, embarrassingly, better than m
ine
and not just a little. 2. The guy who did the welding of the landing gear
,
engine mount, and so on, is the head guy in the restoration shop at Owl's H
ead
Transportation Museum (ohtm.org). They fly rides in a Waco and Stearman an
d
have made FLYING replicas of a Bleriot, a Taube, a Curtiss D, and a bunch o
f
others. He knows how to weld. 3. The father and son did not work in a va
cuum.
Some of you may know Karl Erickson. He's been around Piets for years and h
as
owned, I think, 3. He provided the equivalent !
of Tech Counselor advice. 4. The project was essentially ready for cover
,
saving me probably 2 years. The plane had been assembled and the control
rigging done so the major project groups left are covering, FWF, and
instruments.
This is all by way of preface. The duo covered the tail feathers and ailer
ons
with ceconite and butyrate dope using 1.7 oz fabric and there is enough 1.7
oz
fabric to do the rest of the plane. Meanwhile, I have purchased enough 2.7
oz
fabric to do an entire airplane and gotten a start on purchasing the Stewar
t
system glue and stuff.
Finally, the question. What do I do with the tail feathers and 1.7 oz fabr
ic?
Looks like I have several choices. 1. Leave the tail feathers as is and d
o the
rest of the plane with either 1.7 or 2.7 fabric A local A&P says that you
shouldn't mix em. 2. Strip the old dope and fabric off and start over wit
h
either 1.7 or 2.7 oz fabric. 3. Just continue with the dope and use the
Stewart another day. All choices imply a question of which fabric is
preferable. I am inclined to option 2 with the heavier fabric on at least
the
fuselage.
Any inputs are appreciated. I've looked at the archives for fabric prefere
nce
and found a spectrum of opinions. Does the use of the Stewart system chang
e any
of them?
Included in the pile o stuff was a set (4) of cub lift struts. For those o
f you
who have used them, would you do it again or just start with new? Again, t
he
archives are ambivalent.
Thanks in advance.
Dave Aldrich
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Like a few others on the list I've got a few holiday "days" off. I'm going to
weld my wing cabane fittings and want to get them primed.
I know Bingelis says zinc chromate for priming the metal. I've found it available
at Aircraft Spruce and Wicks, but was wondering if it was an item I might
find (or substitute) locally. I live in a small town but it has 3 autobody shops
that have auto metal primers, but the ones I've seen don't have zinc chromate
as an ingredient.
Is it okay to use a metal primer (such as for autos) that doesn't have zinc chromate
(or phosphate) as a component? Or is this something I need to order from
an aircraft supply company (like I've done for all wood, metals, glues, bolts,
cables, etc.)
Thanks,
Tom
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For what it's worth, zinc chromate doesn't offer very good protection
compared to one of the newer 2-part epoxy primers. I'd go ahead and order
one of them made by Randolph or Poly Fiber and get it from Aircraft Spruce
rather than just using a rattle can primer. A lot of the metal parts on a
Pietenpol are not easy to get to for inspection and may have undetected
rust. I'd use the best primer money can buy, which is epoxy.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Like a few others on the list I've got a few holiday "days" off. I'm going
to weld my wing cabane fittings and want to get them primed.
I know Bingelis says zinc chromate for priming the metal. I've found it
available at Aircraft Spruce and Wicks, but was wondering if it was an item
I might find (or substitute) locally. I live in a small town but it has 3
autobody shops that have auto metal primers, but the ones I've seen don't
have zinc chromate as an ingredient.
Is it okay to use a metal primer (such as for autos) that doesn't have zinc
chromate (or phosphate) as a component? Or is this something I need to
order from an aircraft supply company (like I've done for all wood, metals,
glues, bolts, cables, etc.)
Thanks,
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Metal primer |
Tom,
Another alternative to consider is powder coating your metal parts (as opposed
to using wet paint).
If you're going to powder coat, there's no primer required - the powder basically
melts directly onto the surface of the steel, forming a very strong mechanical
bond. Powder coating is extremely durable, and environmentally friendly (no
solvents).
Bill C.
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